Shadow mantle is not always the best to tank in. boxer wins if your soloing, exp party. valor wins on hnms while /nin tanking. shadow can be used while /war over valor. gigant wins for max hp set(for spirits only).
valor wins for /war or /nin kiting.
for those with Aegis i think that shadow or valor could be mained due to Aegis capping shield proc rates without skill+
there is no one peice of equip for pld in any slot except Aegis ofcourse D:
if you have any intrest of not sucking you will macro each peice in for each situation and please dont main 1 mantle (or anything for that matter) for everything, you may not feel stupid or gimp but you are in the eyes of any experienced pld.
Edited, Dec 11th 2007 4:11am by OniRisu
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Boxer's Mantle
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how do i get this item i want it realy bad lev 75 pld
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This is purchased with ancient beastcoins, which drop in Limbus. You must have access to Limbus (which means access to sea) for the NPC that sells this to speak to you.
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Out of curiosity, can armor pieces, requiring only coins, be picked up outside of sea through an NPC, like one in Jueno, or do you have to go into sea/Limbus and trade the coins for the items? I don't have sea/Limbus yet but would really like to get this and Brutal ASAP.
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Just found out the NPC will NOT talk to you if you don't have sea access yet ><
It's only after we lost everything do we begin to realize, how the fvck did i get into this sh*t!
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I wonder how much of a difference this makes
Ive used it on pld now for both end-game and exp and I would defently suggest this to any pld whos crazy on Shield+. The evasion and parry is also very noticable exp and solo. It's 75 Coins.
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plainly depends on what u are and what u fight.
Like every 2nd RDM runs around in a scorpion harness. . .a total crappy choice. . .a RDM75 has 210 evasion cap, 10 more or less won't help evading anything (THF or NIN have like 300+).
Now a boxer's on a RDM with his sucking eva, parry and shield cap. . .you won't see any real difference fighting VT monsters. . .but fighting weaker mobs this does show some effect because at a certain (mob) lvl this +10 skill will change your relative cap rating alot.
On the other hand a THF or NIN 75 won't see any difference using the boxer's when fighting EP or TW mobs.The basic cap is plainly too high to have something like that effect it (consider fighting a lvl60 mob, the A cap for lvl60 is 200 skill, a THF or NIN 75 would already have 300, aka already 100 bonus, 10 more or less won't effect that too much). Fighting a lvl 70ish mob on the other hand, the A cap rating is ur actual base skill. So any +skill would count.
If u can't follow, compare the skill to HP and SMG. If ur THF75 does 1k dmg (=your base eva) to a lvl30 mob which has 800 HP (compare to kinda acc rating), it doesnt matter if u do 200 dmg more or less (aka 10 eva more). But if you do this 1k dmg (=base eva) to a lvl70 mob with 5k HP (= acc rating), every bit of bonus dmg will start to count.
Like every 2nd RDM runs around in a scorpion harness. . .a total crappy choice. . .a RDM75 has 210 evasion cap, 10 more or less won't help evading anything (THF or NIN have like 300+).
Now a boxer's on a RDM with his sucking eva, parry and shield cap. . .you won't see any real difference fighting VT monsters. . .but fighting weaker mobs this does show some effect because at a certain (mob) lvl this +10 skill will change your relative cap rating alot.
On the other hand a THF or NIN 75 won't see any difference using the boxer's when fighting EP or TW mobs.The basic cap is plainly too high to have something like that effect it (consider fighting a lvl60 mob, the A cap for lvl60 is 200 skill, a THF or NIN 75 would already have 300, aka already 100 bonus, 10 more or less won't effect that too much). Fighting a lvl 70ish mob on the other hand, the A cap rating is ur actual base skill. So any +skill would count.
If u can't follow, compare the skill to HP and SMG. If ur THF75 does 1k dmg (=your base eva) to a lvl30 mob which has 800 HP (compare to kinda acc rating), it doesnt matter if u do 200 dmg more or less (aka 10 eva more). But if you do this 1k dmg (=base eva) to a lvl70 mob with 5k HP (= acc rating), every bit of bonus dmg will start to count.
I think...
That the accuracy on SH might also have something to do with why rdm's where it to solo...
I mean I'm just taking a stab in the dark there.
That the accuracy on SH might also have something to do with why rdm's where it to solo...
I mean I'm just taking a stab in the dark there.
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21 posts
Umm.. mathematically, 10 more evasion is a larger percentage of the whole of 210, rather than 300, so technically it would make more of a difference
8 posts
I believe it is based on your skill vs mob's skill. when you say its technically more difference at 210 your comparing the score to skill level 0.The mob isnt skill 0 though.
An IT exp Mob at endgame probably attacking you with a weapon level of 305:
A paladin with A+ shield:
305-276 = -24
305-286 = -14
Thats a 41% decrease on your defeciet
If Shield was base 210 (ick)
305-210 = -95
305-220 = -85
Thats an 11% decrease on your defeciet
If mob was low level and attacking with weapon level 200, then yes, there would be more % change to your bonus over the mob if your skill was 210
Edited, Oct 24th 2006 at 4:09am PDT by Stagen
An IT exp Mob at endgame probably attacking you with a weapon level of 305:
A paladin with A+ shield:
305-276 = -24
305-286 = -14
Thats a 41% decrease on your defeciet
If Shield was base 210 (ick)
305-210 = -95
305-220 = -85
Thats an 11% decrease on your defeciet
If mob was low level and attacking with weapon level 200, then yes, there would be more % change to your bonus over the mob if your skill was 210
Edited, Oct 24th 2006 at 4:09am PDT by Stagen
I wonder if the above poster knows A+ skill caps are 276? I doubt it, and +10 skill is really useful.
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Damn I just saw this thing for the first time today, i've been slacking but now i've got a reason to get sea... Promyvion <sp> vahzel here i come...
Gear I still Need Boxers Mantle, Duelist Tabbard/boots Evasion Earing. I'm gonna be the greastest ninja ever I'm gonna be the 5th hokage.....
seems to me that this would be a great skill cap item for a number of jobs.
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Awww...this would be a great piece for us Thieves too...Evasion skill and parrying skill is great for soloing, I want one....
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i like this back peice hopeing to see it around some time haven't seen any yet thou sooooo :\
in the time it takes for you to complain about prices/gil sellers/NM camping you chould have made 100k..... stop whineing and do something about it.
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17 posts
Nice work Phrost!
Now figure out a way to make me one of those!!
Now figure out a way to make me one of those!!
LMAO! If only I could make these. Get off your bum and get sea access so you can do limbus :D
O_o!
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This is very good for capping your skills, but yet i
happen to stick with this ---> http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90...mg_0102.jpg
happen to stick with this ---> http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90...mg_0102.jpg
I've had my Boxer's Mantle for quite a while now and I'm very happy with it. It's fantastic for NIN, and very nice for my PLD as well.
I would agree that it's not as useful for PLD though -- Evasion and Parry are quite low for a PLD even when capped, and +10 still doesn't push the numbers to an especially high level. The +Shield is nice though, and Evasion and Parry may not be enormously helpful but are certainly a decent improvement nonetheless. I would use a Boxer's Mantle over anything but a Valor Mantle, and *maybe* a Gigant Mantle on a very few mobs.
I would agree that it's not as useful for PLD though -- Evasion and Parry are quite low for a PLD even when capped, and +10 still doesn't push the numbers to an especially high level. The +Shield is nice though, and Evasion and Parry may not be enormously helpful but are certainly a decent improvement nonetheless. I would use a Boxer's Mantle over anything but a Valor Mantle, and *maybe* a Gigant Mantle on a very few mobs.
What i've never heard of or seen a valor cape why isnt it up on alakazham and how is it obtained?
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Valor Cape is one of the new drops from new dynamis'. I haven't seen or heard of anyone getting one yet.
PLD's......... u can begin to orgasm.... lol sorry but this is probably best mantle for PLD's considering we have shield skills, parrying skills, and evasion skills... Ninjas can also enjoy this for evasion and parrying, and monks can enjoy this for guarding and evasion... but in all PLD would best benefit from this especially in XP parties cause all in all vitality+ is good but 3 stats +10 skill is better, more misses, more parrying, more shielding WOOOOOT
I would say this was a better cape for ninja tanking than paladin.
This is also an exceptional cape for Mnk/nin soloing. with a mnk B+ evasion skill, not many know that a monk make a fomidable solo agent when parred with shadows high evasion counter and guard
This is also an exceptional cape for Mnk/nin soloing. with a mnk B+ evasion skill, not many know that a monk make a fomidable solo agent when parred with shadows high evasion counter and guard
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Formless: 1 SubtleBlow:5
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i think i'd disagree. I know a lot of NINs that would much rather use DD back pieces. but as a 75 PLD, i would still have a hard time choosing between this and the valor cape. i guess it all depends on what your tanking, but having the valor cape would definately make me feel better
Valor Cape seems to be better for PLD. This cape looks like it was designed to open up the options for alternative tanking.
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looks like I'm wearing nothing at all....nothing at all.....NOTHING AT ALL!!!
the best backpiece for PLD is
Valor Cape
Level: 70
Flags: Rare / Exclusive / Not NPC Sellable
Slot: Back
Type: Armor: Cape
Jobs: PLD
Races: All
Defense: 16
Equipment Category:
Armor / Back
Effects for Valor Cape:
HP +40
Vitality +6
Enmity +3
Valor Cape
Level: 70
Flags: Rare / Exclusive / Not NPC Sellable
Slot: Back
Type: Armor: Cape
Jobs: PLD
Races: All
Defense: 16
Equipment Category:
Armor / Back
Effects for Valor Cape:
HP +40
Vitality +6
Enmity +3
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BRD|WHM|BLM|SMN|MNK|SAM|NIN|BST
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SHADOW MANTLE IDIOT
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actually @#%^ing noob, it's shadow mantle. It occasionally ANNULS physical damage. STFU please.
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o___O is all I can say.
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gawd... simply put this is the best back piece to tank or solo with. nuff said
Edited, Tue Jan 10 04:11:13 2006
Edited, Tue Jan 10 04:11:13 2006
75 Samurai
75 Red Mage
75 Ranger
45 Nin
37 War/Blm/Whm/Thf
CoP 5-3 Zilart 16
75 Red Mage
75 Ranger
45 Nin
37 War/Blm/Whm/Thf
CoP 5-3 Zilart 16
Boxer's Mantle: DEF:8 Guarding skill +10, Evasion Skill +10, Parrying skill +10, Lv70 All Jobs
Trade Items: 75 Coins
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H2H:8 Strength:5 Crit+:4 Crit-:4 HP:5 Eva:4
Counter:5 Kicks:5 Penance:3 Invigorate:2
Formless: 1 SubtleBlow:5
There are those who do, the rest are worthless.
75 Monk 75 Nin 56 Sam 90+1 Leathercraft
Melee 4/5 Koga 2/5 Sky 4/5 AF+1 3/5 Shura 3/5
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H2H:8 Strength:5 Crit+:4 Crit-:4 HP:5 Eva:4
Counter:5 Kicks:5 Penance:3 Invigorate:2
Formless: 1 SubtleBlow:5
There are those who do, the rest are worthless.
75 Monk 75 Nin 56 Sam 90+1 Leathercraft
Melee 4/5 Koga 2/5 Sky 4/5 AF+1 3/5 Shura 3/5
http://www.myspace.com/mrkaze
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75 is correct, not 150 like some people think.
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BRD|WHM|BLM|SMN|MNK|SAM|NIN|BST
BRD|WHM|BLM|SMN|MNK|SAM|NIN|BST
#hicksrch,
Posted: Jan 09 2006 at 4:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 150 ancient beastcoins