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All at Sea  

Submitted by:Stephen Trawnik
Realm:Windurst
Start Area: Port Windurst
Start NPC:Paytah (I - 7)
Type:General
Related Mobs:Paytah (I - 7)
Min Level:1
Max Level:75
Rating
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Items Required:Dhalmel Hide
Ripped Cap
Sailor's Cap
Items Granted:Dhalmel Mantle
Leather Ring
Last Updated: Thu Aug 20 01:00:36 2009

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Summary

The wind blew away the sailor's cap that Paytah was minding for his father. You fished it out of the sea, but now it is torn and tattered. If you could only find someone who can repair Paytah's father's cap...

Walkthrough

Paytah is at the pier near the shopping piers.

(Level Requirement and Fame Requirement unsure. I didn't get this until Level 21, fairly high fame, and level 21 fishing skill)

I had passed by these two children several times, and each time they spoke to me it was about not talking to passing strangers. But one day, it takes a passing stranger to help poor Paytah in his time of trouble. Paytah's father's favorite cap has been lost to a gust of wind and has been blown into the water. A little bit of fishing skill is needed to fish out his poor father's cap, but when you do, fishing it out of the water has ripped it! Never fear, a ripped cap calls for a hat expert, go to Baren-Moren in the Waters district, he has to be able to repair it. Sure enough, Baren-Moren can fix the cap, but he'll need some fresh material to do it. Baren-Moren would require 4 Dhalmel hides to fix the rip (I think to myself, that's an awfully big cap...).

Dhalmel hides can be found on either Wild Dhalmel in Tahrongi Canyon or Bull Dhalmels in Buburimu Peninsula, but the preferred Dhalmel is the Wild Dhalmel, as it is considerably weaker than its bigger cousin. (and of course off of other players or at the Auction House)

Return to Baren-Moren with the hides, and he not only repairs the cap, he has plenty of material left over to make a Dhalmel Mantle (ah, that's what the extra hides were for...) that he happily passes on to you. Then return the repaired cap to Paytah, and the boy is so pleased he happily turns over a Leather Ring he doesn't need. Both items are pretty decent reward for around a level 18-20 character, or even sell at the Auction House well, so this quest is worth the effort.

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# Apr 08 2007 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't think you need anyfishing skills as I use to fish this up all the time when trying to skill up on fishing.

As for fame not sure, I was probley about lvl 2 or 3 windy fame at the time
Not that hard...
# Jan 03 2007 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Caught the Ripped Cap using a Halcyon Rod with Sabiki Rig on my 3rd cast. Fishing Skill = 3, Job = DRG lvl 43 and I wasn't wearing any special fishing gear.
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# Jun 10 2006 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Fishing next the chum chick at the end of the pier (Windy port) with a Hume rod and Sabiki rig, I have pulled this thing up like 6 times in the last half hour. My fishing it only at 2 and I had just recently bumped my Windy fame to 3.
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# May 22 2006 at 5:05 PM Rating: Default
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Yet another pointless Quest!

Helcy. Pole > Stabiki Ring
Got one after about 3 Stacks of Quues and Sardines. ~ Please Explian Why this Quest is in the Game? I'm intrested to know. As far as i See it it's a waste of space in the game. Unless it gives you alot of Fame Which i doubt.

Edited, Mon May 22 17:00:13 2006
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# Feb 27 2006 at 11:41 PM Rating: Decent
I caught the ripped hat within like 3 catches, lvl 0 fishing and lvl 5 Smn, although I am decked out in fishing armor and the fishing image!
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# Jan 08 2006 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
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First fish I caught was the hat!

Is it me or are they making the quests a little too easy?

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# Jun 10 2005 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
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after 4 casts, i cought the hat. i just think that it has nothing to do with your fishing skill, what rod you're using or bait, just that its all about luck. i cought the cap right next to the boy with a willow fishing rod and lugworms in about 5 minutes.
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hat
# Mar 05 2005 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Used carbon rod and lug worms. Caught it right by boy. Friend next to me lost his Sabuki rig to broken line . After that we both used lugs and caught it about the same time. Don't use expensive rigs, worms or lugs work fine. Luck to all

BTW level 1 fishing exp
quick recap?
# Nov 02 2004 at 10:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Talk to the the boy Paytah in Port at i-7 (not j-7).

If he talks about his Father's hat blowing away, you got the start of the quest, trade him the ripped cap. (doesn't matter if you get the cap before you get hte quest or after - i got it and tossed it about a zillion times before i even knew what it was for.)

Then go to Waters and DON'T talk to Baren, just trade Baren at the hatshop (down south in waters, off the map) the ripped hat and he should ask for 4 dhamel hides.

(If you had the 3 giant bird feather's quest going with Baren before hand that's the reason you don't want to chat with him before just trading him the hat or you'll get the bird feather quest again as someone mentioned, which is, repeatable i think (or obviously if you get it again). All i know is i didn't chat him up i just traded the ripped cap to him.

you bring back the four dhamel hides and trade them to him again without chatting him up, he gives you a dhalmel (finally spelled it right) mantle and a sailor's cap you can bring back to the boy in port and trade it to him. (The dhalmel's mantle is for you, not the boy.) The boy is thrilled and gives you a 'lvl 14 def of 1' leather ring, and bob's your uncle.

this recap is brought to you by all the helpful posts that came before it that helped me figure it out. thanks, everyone, this site saves much time and hairpulling. i despise quests but i guess they kill time.

too many caps
# Sep 05 2004 at 12:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I caught 7 in an hour today trying to get Sardines for a friend leveling Windy Fame :/
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# Aug 09 2004 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Lvl 25 whm, fishing skill 0.

got the hat, and quest. :)
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# Aug 08 2004 at 5:08 PM Rating: Decent
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i just got this on my first cast ever.

level 0 fisherman, windurst waters.

first cast in my life = ripped cap

im like wtf is this, so i came and looked and apparently its for this quest >.>
Catching the Cap
# Aug 02 2004 at 1:46 AM Rating: Good
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I caught the cap with a Carbon Fishing rod and a Sabiki Rig.

I had been fishing off the pier for upwards of 7 hours before I pulled up a cap. I wasn't fishing for the cap, however... but since I don't see a patented method to fish the thing up, it looks like some people might be in for a wait!

Funny thing is, after I fished it up, my next cast caught another one.
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got no ring...
# Jul 05 2004 at 6:37 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't know my fame level, but I did the quest, but I only got a Dhalmel mantle, no Leather ring. Anybody else experienced this?

Never mind, forgot to trade back the cap to the boy.

Edited, Mon Jul 5 13:28:52 2004
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tossed cap
# Jun 03 2004 at 11:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I had the hat, and somehow at sometime, I tossed it :(

you have any idea if I can fish it again?
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RE: tossed cap
# Jun 14 2004 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
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yes you can.
as a matter of fact....
ive fished this **** cap up 3 times in a row once ; ;

it says "you regretfully discard a Ripped Cap cause your inventory is full"

even though i was sitting at 18/50 lol
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RE: tossed cap
# Jul 29 2004 at 4:06 PM Rating: Decent
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It says this because the item is rare/ex and you can not have more than one.......
Annoying hat
# May 27 2004 at 3:43 AM Rating: Good
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Before trying to catch the hat, I looked at all the other posters, and decided to try using the bamboo pole + lugworm bait. This got me 85% lost catches, 10% fish, and 5% nothing caught.

So I switched to small worm bait. This got me 85% nothing caught, 10% lost catches, and 5% kelp/rusty leggings.

Next I tried switching to clothespole. Basically the same thing with both baits, only less catches due to some items being too small for the rod.

I switched back to the bamboo pole and small worm bait, as you don't lose it when nothing bites it off the hook.

Having kept track of casts, it wasn't until #116 that I finally got the hat. However, my inventory was full. After throwing a suicidal tantrum, I started plugging away again with the bamboo rod and small worm bait.

Finally, #186 was the lucky number, and I kept the hat the second time I managed to catch it. Rest of the quest is a breeze.



Level 16 WHM, 0.4 fishing skill, 30 gil for image synthesis support

Fished off of Fisherman's Guild Pier, further toward the sea from the plank that leads to the Guild Shop, and facing the opposite direction. (On the pier, there is a series of 3 pair of white planks, side-by-side. I fished from the planks just left of the pair of white planks furthest down the pier toward the sea)

Edited, Thu May 27 04:44:33 2004
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# May 22 2004 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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i have this quest and the one requiring feathers activated at the same time!!!plus i caught the hat as a level 1 fisher w/ carbon rod and sabuki rig not once or twice,but FIVE times in a row.heck i caught the hat before i activated the quest.
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# May 07 2004 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Race: Mithra
Rod: TaruTaru
Bait: Lugworm or Sibiki Rig
Skill: 0
Fame: People are starting to talk about you.

I had been trying to talk to the kids for some time, and just happend to go fishing with a friend just to keep him company. I caught the hat on my fifth catch!

On a side note: I also managed to catch a fat greedie (in Selbina or Mhaura) but that broke my taru rod and this was before I caught the Ripped hat and with an even lower skill of 0. I guess I am just lucky.
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# May 06 2004 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't know why he wouldn't let me finish the quest for the hat, but I put it down for a few days and went back traded that hat to the boy again, and he didn't do anything. Then traded that hat to Baren-Moren and he did finally give me the quest. All done now :)
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unexpected
# May 02 2004 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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lol i got this at lvl 13 fishing^^
items??
# Mar 31 2004 at 6:16 PM Rating: Decent
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when i went and talked to baren-moren he asked me for 3 giant bird feathers NOT dhalmel hides!!
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# Apr 01 2004 at 8:36 PM Rating: Decent
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That's for a different quest.
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# Apr 02 2004 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I've activated this quest and I have the hat, but after catching the hat and talking to the children I went to Baren-Moren, and he wants more feathers. I try to trade the hat to him and he doesn't take it. No matter what I do he only wants me to get the feathers. Perhaps that's what he was saying, and I would like to know WTH is going on. I don't know that this quest gives much detail here. Once again, this quest IS active for me.
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RE: items??
# Apr 05 2004 at 1:48 AM Rating: Decent
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You need to trade the hat to the boy first.
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# Apr 05 2004 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I did that and he cried and said it was all tore up, so I went to Boren-Moren and he only wants me to do the Feather Quest again. I tried trading that hat to the boy again, but he doesn't do anything else. Any other advice?
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# Apr 26 2004 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I haven't done it but my guess is you just need to finish the bird feather quest first.(which I also must do) The NPC is stuck on that one. The same thing happens with other NPCs that are involved in multiple quests.
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Turn in the feathers for the feather quest, but DO NOT speak to Boren-Moren or it auto-starts the feather quest again. Just turn in the feathers, zone, then come back and trade the hat.
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RE: items??
# Sep 12 2004 at 4:05 PM Rating: Decent
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it is possible to do this quest with the feather
quest activated - just trade the hat to the baron
and he'll ask you for four dhalmel hides. i Have
completed the feather quest three or four times
previously, however, so that might have something
to do with it ( although prior to trading the hat
to him i talked to him and all he wanted was more
big bird feathers ) .. i was able to trade him
the four dhalmel hides and receive the repaired
cap with the feather quest still active.

1) this may not work if you have not completed
the feather quest at least once .. i can't
vouch for that

2) my fishing skill was at 5 ( barely )

3) windy fame level 9 ( hero )

4) RDM43

5) rank 4
Wierd Item
# Mar 11 2004 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Fishing skill 11, L20 RDM, Fame Level 2 in Windurst, with Fishing Moghancement. Waltzed up to the pier on midday Firesday, caught it not once but TWICE. Couldn't keep it a second time, of course. No airship pass, so can't get to the pier.
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# Jul 23 2004 at 12:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I caught the hat with lvl 1 fishing skill, using a composite rod and little worms, on my 2nd cast while fishing at the pier by the fishing guild. Saw that the item was rare ex, so I found out which quest it goes to and then figured I might as well use it. ;p
Level 3 fame in Windy btw when I got the quest.
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# Apr 24 2004 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
Do you need the airship pass to get to the guy? I don't recall the pier being off limits to non airship travelers.
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# Feb 27 2004 at 2:29 PM Rating: Default
I caught the hat with level 1 fishing skill with a bamboo pole. It's random. Fished off the dock at the guild.
Pole matters?
# Feb 21 2004 at 9:43 PM Rating: Default
It was mentioned earlier that someone thought this cap could not be caught with willow or yew fishing poles. This has also been my experience. Has anyone on here caught the ripped cap with a willow or yew pole? Please post if you have.
windurst?
# Feb 12 2004 at 3:17 PM Rating: Default
do you have to be windurstian? or can you do it if youre visiting from another country?
FYI
# Feb 12 2004 at 12:15 PM Rating: Default
I got the fishing enchancemnet cast on my for 30g and with a clothespole, and Lugworms and a fishing skill of 2 I was able to fish it out.

dont try for quest ^^ get it while fishing
# Feb 12 2004 at 12:01 AM Rating: Default
i picked up 7 while rising fishing skill ^^ threw 6 away and thought hmm i should keep the 7th and get it over and done with .. was annoying me

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# Feb 07 2004 at 9:20 PM Rating: Default
I got the cap with fishing skill 2, fishing skill doesnt really matter
Done wit it
# Feb 05 2004 at 3:53 PM Rating: Default
My fame was around level 4.
The boy told me his dads hat had been blown away into the sea. Then I went fishing in Port Windhurst, got the hat within a few hours. I went to the boy trade the torn hat to him, he told me it's no good cuz it's torn up. Then I went to the hat store in Windhurst Waters (south) and traded the hat to Baren Moren. He me to bring him 4 Dhamel Hides so he can repair it which i did. You will get the repaired hat from him which u must bring it back to the boy to finish the quest.
RE: Done wit it
# Feb 05 2004 at 3:56 PM Rating: Default
By the way my fishing skill was 0 but i was fishing during a fullmoon which is a great time to raise your fishing skills.
umm yeah huh?
# Feb 02 2004 at 11:22 PM Rating: Default
ok the girl calls me a stranger but the boy tells me hoe his hat was blown away .... does this mean i meet fame requirement ?
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# Feb 03 2004 at 2:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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once the kid had told you about the hat, you can do this quest. The quest will only appear under your "Current Quests" AFTER you trade the cap to the kid.
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# Feb 02 2004 at 11:08 PM Rating: Default
ummmm ..... this little boy that gives the quest is in fact already wearing a hat. so if he lost a hat and he never moves from the spot i am to assume that he was wearing 2 hats? poor child and his issues
RE: WTF is wrong with this kid
# Feb 04 2004 at 11:48 AM Rating: Default
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read what the kid says, it's his father's hat
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yeaaa. help
# Jan 31 2004 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I've done about 43 quests for Windurst and 7 for Mhaura. My fame level is:
Hello there Unrender! There aren't many Windurstians who don't know that
name. We're all proud to have you on our side! Keep up the great work!

The sister tells me "I'm stranger than most stranger.... "
the brother tells me about his fathers hat being blown to the sea and whines a bit. He talks for a bit. But the quest is not given to me.
Am I suppose to just go fish? and do the quest without it appearing in my quest list?


Edited, Sat Jan 31 15:34:31 2004
RE: yeaaa. help
# Feb 04 2004 at 12:14 PM Rating: Decent
Yah, go fish for the had without it being on your list. It was not on my list when I got the hat and handed it to him. It showed up after I handed it to him and he handed it back.

*Edit* I wanted to add that I did this on another char and I got the had with a fishing skill of 0.0 on the second cast. It my have been luck /shrug

Edited, Wed Feb 4 12:15:46 2004
Use the right pole
# Jan 28 2004 at 12:29 PM Rating: Default
You cannot catch this hat using Willow or Yew fishing poles! We wasted 2 evenings trying to do this, swapped to Bamboo rods and caught it within half an hour..
They dont talk to strangers...
# Jan 28 2004 at 5:26 AM Rating: Default
Time of day has no bearing on this quest. If you talk to the sister standing next to the boy she will tell you exactly what is wrong and why you are not getting the quest. Their mother has told them they should not talk to strangers. You must have enough fame that people know of you in Windurst in order not to be a 'stranger' before they begin talking to you.
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# Jan 27 2004 at 9:55 AM Rating: Decent
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level 7 thf, 0 fishing skill,first cast with bamboo with small worms on pier.
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a cat in the hat
# Jan 24 2004 at 1:17 PM Rating: Default
I got 2 ripped hat thingies within an hour when trying to increase my fishing skills... Nontheless, i still have 0.1 skill in fishing ^^
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Ripped hat is Rare EX.
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# Jan 24 2004 at 3:25 AM Rating: Default
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He probably gives out the quest at a certain time of day??
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# Jan 22 2004 at 8:18 PM Rating: Default
i caught the hat on the dock where the fishing guild is in port windurst using a bamboo fishing rod and lugworm as bait...

i'm lvl 1 fishing and 30RDM/15BLM with medium to high fame in each city and rank 3...

wasn't hard to catch and i just bought the hides for 300/piece, check the price for dhalmel mantle and leather ring and was going for almost 2000 total, so i was able to do this in like 20 minutes...
Frustration!?
# Jan 20 2004 at 2:21 PM Rating: Default
Lv. 45 BLM/WHM Rank 5 with over 130 total unique quests and I can't seem to get this one...
I have had the cap for like 2 months now.. It is very easy to get BTW.
0 fishing skill and still got it
# Jan 12 2004 at 7:01 PM Rating: Default
I got the cap with 0 fishing skill by accident from the pier by the fishing guild, before I got this quest.
RE: 0 fishing skill and still got it
# Jan 18 2004 at 7:52 PM Rating: Default
i have zero fishing still also (with boost), got the cap near the fishing guild in Windhurst after going through 11 lost catches.
???
# Jan 08 2004 at 5:28 AM Rating: Default
Well I have 8 fishing skill and I've been throwing all kinds of salt water bait I can think of at the water in the port for hours and still no hat. I have to wonder how on earth any of you managed to fish it up in 1 cast.
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# Jan 07 2004 at 4:09 AM Rating: Default
I am BLM16/WHM8 and haven't looked at getting the quest yet, but I have gotten the cap. 0.1 in Fishing skill, with the boost. I got the hat before I got the stupid fish (still haven't caught that one yet).

FYI 23 quests, Mission 4, Rank 2 and well-known for Fame status
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# Jan 01 2004 at 6:08 PM Rating: Default
Lvl 11 >>> 27 quests >>>>> fishing Skill 1 >>>> Missions 3 >>> got the quest ... Takes FOREVER to get the **** hat though so take along plenty of bait
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# Jan 03 2004 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Fishing skill: 4 (+1 from fishing gloves)
Rod: carbon
Bait: lugworms

Only took me a few tries. I wasn't even looking for it, I discovered this quest trying to figure out what a ripped cap was for.
RE: Midiany
# Jan 01 2004 at 8:01 PM Rating: Default
actually with fishing skill 1 i got the hat on 3rd cast at the windurst fishermans guild area...its all random ;p
Disposal Error
# Dec 24 2003 at 4:12 PM Rating: Default
IS it possible to reclaim the hat if you've accidentally disposed of it?
Where to fish?
# Dec 18 2003 at 10:14 PM Rating: Default
Any specific areas to fish? I tried alot of times near Paytah, but still could not get the hat..For those who completed this quest, able to contribute to where you caught the hat? thanks!
RE: Where to fish?
# Jan 28 2004 at 3:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I caught it on the practice area of the Orastery. The two semi-circular areas on the map. I was fishing for sardines and quus with a glass rod and a sabiki rig. It was fairly soon after I changed fishing spots from the guild pier. However I didn't know what I had caught and just stuck the hat in my safe for a while until I spoke to Paytah and he whined about his hat. I was fishing skill 7 and level 14 at the time. I can finally wear the mantle now that I reached level 18.
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# Dec 19 2003 at 3:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Not sure if skill makes a diff, it just takes time.

I think I went from nearly no skill to 4, by the time I caught the hat.
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# Dec 15 2003 at 12:32 AM Rating: Default
my fishing skill is 0
i use bamboo rod and almost any rig or bait
No Ripped cap T_T
# Dec 12 2003 at 3:15 AM Rating: Default
Paytah told me that he lost his cap.. i tried fishing so many times near where he is, but i still didn't fish that ripped cap out.. >_< hmm....
hmm
# Dec 08 2003 at 9:54 PM Rating: Default
Definetely not fishing skill related.

I had a fishing skill of 1.x, came back to windurst on a mission, joined the fishing guild, carbon rod + sabiki rig, and i got a ripped cap immediately on first cast.

talked to paytah, I also got the quest (30-40 seperate quests in windurst done). I believe it to be a decent->high fame quest.

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# Dec 06 2003 at 2:21 PM Rating: Default
Caught the ripped cap after 10 casts with a fishing skill of 13.
Relaxing
# Dec 05 2003 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I find this is a great quest to do while or when you want to up your fishing skills. It does take sometime to catch the kids hat or a short time, all chance I presume. I did fish for a while and it was only when I moved to where the kids were that I caught the hat. I was fishind down at the Windurst guild.
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