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Trial By Lightning  

Submitted by:Kurtomatic
Realm:Other
Start Area: Mhaura
Start NPC:Ripapa (I - 9)
Type:Job Related
Related Areas:Cloister of Storms
The Boyahda Tree
Related Mobs:Ramuh Prime
Min Level:1
Max Level:75
Grants Gil:10000
Rating
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Title Obtained:Heir of the Great Lightning
Items Granted:Elder Branch
Lightning Belt
Lightning Ring
Ramuh's Staff
Last Updated: Tue Aug 30 13:33:37 2005

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Summary

Ring the tuning fork of lightning upon the protocystal in The Boyahda Tree. A path will open to the trial that awaits.

Description

First, a few notes about Avatar in general fights. This is not the Trial Size quest, which is the solo fight, capped at level 20 (refer to Trial Size Trial by Lightning for that quest). Everyone who is involved in the fight must have a tuning fork of the correct protocrystal. There is no cap on this battle, although there is a 30-minute time limit (not that it ever seems to be important).

General level guidelines: 60+ for melee and 55+ for mages. You�ll want a Black Mage for certain and a solid tank, but the rest is relatively flexible. A well-balanced party is critical, though. You�ll likely want at least 2 of the following 3: Red Mage, White Mage and Bard. You will want one of the melee or the Bard to be able to cast Bar-a spells. Having the WHM or BLM try to cast them will be problematic. Our strategy for this was to have the RDM sub WHM and melee using the appropriate En-spell for easy Bar-a casting. Additionally, if you can buy an Enhancing Torque (usually much cheaper than corresponding Torques), that will add 2-3 points of resistance to Bar-spells. Additionally Mal-rings (from the ghost NM�s in Gusgen Mines) can be helpful for the fight. You can buff up before entering the protocrystal, so feel free to do so and rest up while still outside.

Battle strategy for all six fights is pretty much the same. The battlefield layout for all six fights is exactly the same, although the coloration scheme for the battlefield will be different. The battlefield is shaped like a long path up the side of hill, with a switchback about halfway to the top. This topographical feature allows the mages to stand above the fight (and out of easy reach of the avatar) while still being able to cast spells upon the combatants. This allows for the tank(s) to have extra time to pull hate back should the mages draw it. It is ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL to keep the correct Bar-spell up at all times. Not doing this will result in multiple deaths when the Avatar�s 2-hour comes (at about halfway), and will likely produce a loss. Each avatar is also only easily susceptible to debuffs of the element they are weak to (i.e. Shiva can be Paralyzed). Whether they are susceptible to other enfeebles of very high level is not confirmed.

It is strongly recommended to fight each avatar on the day it is weak to (i.e. Shiva on Firesday) and even more strongly recommended NOT to fight the avatar on its day (i.e. Shiva on Iceday). Spells of each element are much stronger on their specific day of the week.

Each quest is repeatable, but only once per real life day. Once you have returned to the quest giver and gotten your reward, you have to wait 24 hours (some say midnight Japanese time) in order to get the quest again. At that point, you can get a new tuning fork. Each time you complete the quest, you can choose ONE reward from the list, which varies from avatar to avatar.

In order to get the Fenrir quest (The Moonlit Path), you have to have whispers (key items) from all six elemental avatars. This means that you can�t turn them in for reward until you have all six, at which point you can give them to the Fenrir quest giver (Leepe-Hoppe in Windurst Waters). So, in order to be able to get Fenrir and all six avatars, you�ll need to fight each of them at least twice. Additionally, if you are a Summoner, the Evoker�s Ring is only obtainable through the Mama Mia quest in Norg, which would mean you would have to fight them each a third time.

If you can�t get any of these quests, the problem is likely fame. Each quest giver is a taru who stands next to a non-taru warrior. If you don�t have sufficient fame, the taru will just complain about being hurt a lot while his companion will discuss perseverance and not giving up. If you have sufficient fame, the Tarutaru will give you the fork. The non-taru will give you a Trial Size Tuning Fork if you have met the requirements.

TRIAL BY LIGHTNING

To obtain the Lightning Avatar Ramuh, first speak of Ripapa in Mhaura. If you have sufficient fame, he will give you a tuning fork of wind (key item). Mhaura fame is closely tied to Windurst, with a good measure of Mhaura-based quests thrown in for good measure.

To use the fork, you need to travel to Boyahda Tree (SE corner of Sanctuary of Zi�tah) and find the Cloister of Storms. Once in Boyahda Tree, follow the path to the first fork, take a left. Take the next right and follow that until you come to a large room with a huge tree in the middle. From this point forward, you�ll need to put up Sneak and only Sneak. Travel northwest through the big room and through a second big room until you get to C-5 and head up the tunnel. You will go up another level and eventually come out at E-6 of another map � you will be in another huge room. Head SE as much as possible until you see an immense waterfall. It should be noted that there is a little waterfall that heads down on the west wall of this room � don�t go down that, as that will take you somewhere else. Walk under the big waterfall and down the passageway behind it. You will zone into the Cloister of Storms.

Try to fight Ramuh on Earthday, and do not fight him on Lightningday. Keep up Barthundra at ALL times. Ramuh really likes to both Paralyze and Stun. Let your WHM know to have Paralyna and Erase ready. You might want to make sure the BLM and RDM sub Paralyna for this fight. Ramuh sometimes likes to follow up his AoE Paralyze and Stun effect with his Astral Flow, and if Barthundra fades at that point before your WHM can remove Paralyze, there will be �complications. Having multiple people with Paralyna and Barthundra would be particularly useful for this fight.

Once you defeat him, you will acquire the Key Item: Lightning Whisper. Return it to Ripapa for your reward, or hold onto it. If you have all six whispers simultaneously, you can give them to Leepe-Hoppe in Windurst Waters to gain the Moon Bauble � which is basically the Tuning Fork of the Moon � the ability to fight Fenrir. If you are collecting items for the Evoker�s Ring, you will want the Elder Branch.

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drg can solo all avatars too
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solo'd easily as galka drg/whm.
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Fighting Ramuh [RDM/NIN solo]
# Nov 04 2008 at 7:09 AM Rating: Decent
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What you need:
Warlock's Chapeau
Jack-o-lantern (+10 Acc, +10 Eva, +10 Racc, -10 CHR)
Sword (almost any will do)
Shield (Reccomend Genbu's Shield or Tariqah(+4 Acc, +4 Eva))
Scorpion Harness or Narashima's Vest

Spells you will use:
Phalanx I/II
Stoneskin
Protect IV
Shell IV
Utsusemi: Ichi
Utsusemi: Ni
Barthunder
Barparalyze
Enstone (not necessary)
Slow I/II
Bio II/III (not necessary)
Haste
Refresh

To start I want to mention that because each avatar has an elemental attribute and weakness they can be and very much are sucesptible certain enfeebling magic. Ramuh being of the thunder element (which is weak to earth) Ramuh himself is sucesptible to Slow, which is of the earth element.

In order to succeed at this fight you will want to pay very careful attention to when your buffs (most importantly shadows) go down and how much damage your Stoneskin is taking. Try to keep all your buffs up at all times. The tricky thing is to recast Stoneskin even if it hasnt gone down yet. If you take two or more hits to your stoneskin, the very next time you put up a fresh set of Utsusemi shadows, recast your Stoneskin by manually dropping it. This is important because if it gets too weak and Ramuh decides its time to use Judgement Bolt you can be in for some trouble.

The only weaponskill you really need to use here is Spirits Within or Savage Blade if you have it. If you'll notice all the gear/food I reccomend are for Evasion+, having capped evasion helps but avatar's have pretty terrible accuracy at any rate but they do hit hard.

Around -40% if you need to convert do so but make sure your shadows and stoneskin are fresh. Thunder IV ignores shadows which is why Barthunder and Phalanx are important though I would like to note its more than possible to do this fight without Phalanx, Enstone, Slow, Barthunder or Barparalyze.

All in all fight will take about 20+ minutes. Good luck.

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y u ca't get ramhu
# Aug 28 2008 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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u can only get ramhu if u have max out fame. i got him at lvl 2 for smn and i use my 61whm/22 blm with my friend Fongshu and he was a 75nin/37drg and we duo all of them. it was easy all u have to do is stand back keep bar spell up, haste him/her, and make sure u bring alot of juices for refresh. i also got grauda with a 75pld/37war (Coltengrundy) and a 75rdm/37nin (Stephenjd). in order to get them u must have max out fame after that ur all set. just remember do not use thunderspark in the dunnes or anywhere unless u want to get ur whole pt killed. good luck and have fun =^,^= MEOW!!!!!!!!!!

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y u ca't get ramhu
# Nov 04 2008 at 6:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Just want to point out two things:

First you dont need MAX fame you just need Fame 4 in Windurst to get the Mini (Lv20 Solo fight) and Fame 6 to get this Prime fight.

As for Thunderspark, something most dont know you can by all means use thunderspark in party. Even if it hits other mobs if you dismiss Ramuh right away the mobs will not come after you or any other party members. I've done this repeatedly in Yhotar Jungle around lizsy's and in Crawlers Nest around lizzy's. May just be my luck, dont have to take my words for it but i know what i saw cuz thunderspark does some amazing damage ^_-
y u ca't get ramhu
# Aug 28 2008 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
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u can only get ramhu if u have max out fame. i got him at lvl 2 for smn and i use my 61whm/22 blm with my friend Fongshu and he was a 75nin/37drg and we duo all of them. it was easy all u have to do is stand back keep bar spell up, haste him/her, and make sure u bring alot of juices for refresh. i also got grauda with a 75pld/37war (Coltengrundy) and a 75rdm/37nin (Stephenjd). in order to get them u must have max out fame after that ur all set. just remember do not use thunderspark in the dunnes or anywhere unless u want to get ur whole pt killed. good luck and have fun =^,^= MEOW!!!!!!!!!!
Sooo confused
# Jul 29 2008 at 4:10 PM Rating: Decent
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My fame in Windy is 9, my rank is 8 (yes I know it has nothing to do with getting forks), and I tried talking to the npc with my SMN (which is only at 7), and my RDM (which is 75) to get the Prime fork for Ramuh and he just babbles about being hurt.... wth can't I get this damned fork?
Fame
# Feb 11 2007 at 6:08 PM Rating: Decent
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I have level 6 fame in Windurst, but I can't get this quest. Why?
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# Feb 13 2007 at 8:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I think you need fame 7 for avatars, may be wrong
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# Jul 23 2007 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
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This correct, you need level 7 fame for all avatars except leviathan which only requires level 4 fame in Norg.
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# Jun 19 2008 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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nope not level 4 fame if you talking about primes then you also need level 7
Ramuh solo'd
# Dec 18 2006 at 1:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I solo'd Ramuh last night as a lvl 71 Summoner.
The fight took around 20 to 25 minutes but was pretty easy.
The key is to carby kite until he is around 50% and then finishing up with Titan and nuking with stone IV.

When I began to nuke I used astral flow to keep my mp up.
I did have my rdm friend (as she needed ramuh) to keep me refreshed so it was a partial duo, only as a walking yagudo drink though.
It is possible to solo on summon as a lvl 70+ summoner. With the exception of Garuda and leviathan as they can heal themselves.

The only problem is beating them in the aloted time.
30 mins can be too little and you run out of time.
But it can be done easily.

So.
Go kill an avatar for Jesus.

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# Sep 11 2006 at 8:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Who wrote that you need a full party of 75 or so..??
A friend and I decided that we would do an avatar cos we were bored. We picked up Ramuh. Was about to make a party to go beat him up but she said that we could duo it. Then we go in, she as 74 RDM/WAR and me as 65 BST/WHM. Went down to 20% i think. Not enough mp, she dies, pet dies...and i die.
We don't let down, we go back in as <she> RDM/WAR 73 (yeah. + a level down...) and <me> 65 BLM/WHM. Too easy. TOO EASY. A peace of cake. Ok i had to use manafont but it went great. Spam stone, stone II, stone III, stonega I and III, bio II.
Really, you don't need a full pt of 75..... ;)
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how much fame do i need to get ifrit mini and ramh
# Dec 23 2005 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
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can u tell me how much fame do i need for ifrit mini and ramuh mini i have on windy lvl 3 fame plz HELP ME!!!!!!!!!
Windy Fame
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I really need to know. What phrase(FAME LEVEL) is the quest is available. Mine is "Bard's are singing your name." is this enough or do i keep going? and how much further do i go?

-Thanks in advance

Edited, Wed Dec 14 16:06:52 2005
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fame and battle
# Nov 01 2005 at 8:50 AM Rating: Decent
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min windurst rank to get this prime fight is lvl 6 windy fame. I tired to get the forks (khazam and mhuara) every time I raised my fame a lvl, all in all I traded ~150 cornettes (forgive the approximation as I had a mule in bastok that I'd load up and then transfer all to main in windy.

But lvl 6 was the key. Shouted in Jeuno to get a pt together and salvage the night after xp broke at 2k tnl /cry. Anyway picked up 65 smn, 68 blm, (me) 69 thf, 74 blm, 75 whm, 75 pld. We came, we saw, we conquered (4min 13s). All I can say is I have new found respect for Blm's, they kept their composure on the roast and toast, pld only lost hate once during the fight when a couple aga 3's came out, but a quick SATA SB put it back in place, and it died before melee could bring it back to the top ramp area. We went in on ice day.
This fight went much smoother than my Shiva Prime fight, I just hope ifrit and leviathan go as smoothly.
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# Sep 02 2005 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
well heres what happened. ill say to start it that we did win (in 18 minutes) but u'll find out.
we started out with me as 50mnk/25war, 51whm/20blm, 75whm/37blm, 60whm/30blm, 75rdm/20-37nin and i think a pld or war.
well me the 2 higher leveled whms and the rdm had fame to do quest prob was other 2 dident so we left them in windy to work on there fame when we got to the lightning protocrystal we went in me and the lower leveled whm waited 4 ramuh to 2 hour then we go in and fight i used powered up chi blasts and did bout 200 damage while we waited.
well after it 2 houred i 2 houred and attacked it well i did bout 1k damage to it with my 2 hour and it died eventally. to my surprise i killed it with chi blast ^^ so i got ramuh

thx to my friends kool and pina for killing it
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HELP ME OUT
# Aug 29 2005 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I've been battling the lvl 20 Titan Ramuh and Shiva for almost 3 mounths now (yes i really suck) mostly i do them once every 2 weeks, or whenever i'm bored. I got to 60whm and got Garuda with party. My problem is that when i try to pick up the key item forks for Titan, Ramuh and Shiva's 60 prime fights, the little taru dudes ignore me.
Questions:
~Once you pick up the lvl 20 mini forks, are you unable to collect the lvl 60 key item fork?
~Is there a way to trade in the mini forks for the key item forks?
~Do the lvl 60 prime fights need more fame then the lvl 20?
Here's the stupid question:
~Are you allowed into the lvl 60 prime battle field without the key item?
RE: HELP ME OUT
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~Are you allowed into the lvl 60 prime battle field without the key item?


No. Well, not as a group, but I have heard of level 20 summoners entering the battlefield solo by not trading their tuning fork first, so you might be enter solo, but not as part of a party.

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~Once you pick up the lvl 20 mini forks, are you unable to collect the lvl 60 key item fork?


No. Given enough fame, you should be able to have both of them, I believe. From what I understand, the guy standing next to the Rhinostery taru will give you the mini-fork and the taru will give you the full fledged tuning fork. I have never done the mini-quests, so I can't attest personally, but this is what I have been told by relatively reliable sources.

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~Do the lvl 60 prime fights need more fame then the lvl 20?

Yes. A lot more. This is almost assuredly the issue here. More fame is probably needed.

Edited, Tue Aug 30 16:39:57 2005
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# Jul 02 2005 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Just putting this out there; not to toot my own horn, but I was taught a highly effective method of defeating the mini-fork battles at level 20 by a wonderful high-level summoner, Rydiablossom. If anyone on Caitsith is having trouble with the level 20 avatars, feel free to /tell Randir, I would love to help you out. I know how frustrating it can be; I wasted so much gil on fighting Shiva before I finally turned to Rydia for help. >.<

1/1 Titan; 1/1 Garuda; 1/5 Shiva (ouch); 1/1 Ifrit (beat previous record); 1/1 Leviathan; 1/4 Ramuh (beat previous record)
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# Jun 04 2005 at 9:04 PM Rating: Decent
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um dont get a 60+ tank try 70+ 65+ mages but ramuh is a pain prime and mini
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# Jun 01 2005 at 9:12 PM Rating: Decent
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damnit, im 0/3 with ramuh mini battles and im a little frustrated.. his my first one i try and im learning tons of sh*t but he keeps doing new stuff.. btw, my third battle was USLESS.. i didnt realise what day it was before 2 late.. thundersday. I WARN U ALL, NEVER COMMIT THAT MISTAKE!! lol it's a very painfull leason and a wast of ethers and items. Anywho, wish me luck and i wish luck to all who are doing the avatare quest :)
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# May 18 2005 at 3:03 PM Rating: Good
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Can his enthunder be Dispelled?
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fame
# May 13 2005 at 6:21 AM Rating: Decent
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can someone please tell me a fast way to raise my fame in mhaura thx.
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# Jun 01 2005 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
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double post....
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RE: fame
# Jun 01 2005 at 9:07 PM Rating: Decent
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the only way i can think of is the cornette quest, to know more about it, simply seek a fame guide in the "guides" section of this site
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mini prime Q
# Apr 29 2005 at 6:24 PM Rating: Default
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i may have overlooked the answer or question but i didnt see it anywhere. if doing battle with the mini's after you get to be able to summon them all if you fight them a 2nd time cna you get any of the other stuff,not the whispers, but like the earrings or anything?

please dont rate me down just because i may have missed a question that was already answerd

Edited, Fri Apr 29 19:26:18 2005
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RE: mini prime Q
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Nope after the first fight the only prize for beating a trial-sized battle is a scroll of instant warp and the fun of the fight. Consiquently if you can make it back from the cloisters with your smn it is a good way to get a free scroll (works best if your alc lv is high enough to make ethers).
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Having an issue
# Mar 23 2005 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
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well i want to get the quest but when i talk to the taru he keeps reminding me about my AF horn quest (which i really think is a waste) is there any way around this or has anyone else had this problem
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RE: Having an issue
# May 04 2005 at 9:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I want to start by saying that I'm not lv 50 yet so I can't start the AF3 quest......

That being said you might want to cheack your fame lv. Many people I talked to said that if your fame is high enough and you are 50 or higher you will get the AF quest then if you talk to them you will get the fork. This is what happened with me and my AF1 (Bastokian Smn with lv 9 fame) so that would make sence. This is all so what happens with Leepy-Hoppy and the Fenrir quest (tuning in/out>>>Moonlite Path). By the sounds of it your fame is lacking for the second quest and our stuck with just the Carbuncle Debacle(sp?). Hope this solves the problem...

Edited, Wed May 4 22:37:51 2005
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omfg anyone from hades read this plz help me get my dog and refight all these poons
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# Feb 03 2005 at 10:10 PM Rating: Decent
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use this link to fnd out EVERYTHING necessary to know about avatar fights and SMN,and most like more than necessary things are on there!

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just in the URL erase the last 3 or 4 letters so it just ends with htm...great website

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ramuh's staff?
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does anyone know what the stats are for ramuh's staff?
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Lightning pact?
# Nov 25 2004 at 1:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Rewards:

* Lightning Pact <~~
* Ramuh's Staff
* Lightning Belt
* Lightning Ring
* Elder Branch
* 10,000 gil
* the ability to Summon him. <~~


You can't obtain Thunder Spirit Pact like this.. From what I understand, it may only be obtained via a BCNM 20 fight. And if you think by "Lighting pact" they mean the actual summon itself (i.e. Ramuh), look at the last item on the list...
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RE: Lightning pact?
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You can get spirit pacts also by defeating the elemental of the spirit with an avatar. This includes getting the elemental down to low health by other means, then finishing it with the avatar.
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RE: Lightning pact?
# Jan 26 2005 at 8:33 PM Rating: Decent
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not true, i tried it today with shiva against a water elemental and all i got was a water cluster and beastman seal.
RE: Lightning pact?
# Jul 12 2005 at 11:59 PM Rating: Default
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you fruit shiva is ice water is water
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RE: Lightning pact?
# Sep 02 2005 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
Shiva is indeed Ice, Leviathan is Water
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Do you get ALL the rewards after you finish the quest or do you get to chose ONE reward when you finish?
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you only get one...most people obviously get the avatar first then the gill if nothing else is needed, i suggest when you get close to 70 you go and do all the fights again and get the quest items so you can get the evokers ring ;P
Kill Avatars fast and efficient!
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Just thought I'd share:

I beat Garuda and Levathian with just me (lv 65 SMN) a 60 SMN and a 75 NIN.

For Garuda we had a few rdms curing mostly, if at all (with a few nukes at the end)

For Levathian, we had a whm and a blm and a war. (war didnt do much, was lv 54+ but was a nice person) (Blackmage nuked and healed at end) (White mage cured)

So What I am saying, for basically any Avatar, except Fenrir, just one tank (Like a 70+ nin or pld) and 2 smns can kill them in 2-3 mins.

First step is to go to the twist in the fight area and have both summoners summon opposing avatar. Have one smn go and pull the Prime Avatar with his pet. Then retreat back to the twist. Have both Avatars Ver IV Nuke the Prime and repeat + Resummon as needed.

Pull out Astrial flow for one summoner before you feel the Prime will use its 2 hr Bloodpact.

1) You use your 2hr Bloodpact 30-40 secs before you feel that the Prime will 2hr.
2) As soon as you see the Prime "Readies (Insert 2hr here)", have the smn that used his or her 2hr BP dismiss his or her avatar. (ONLY WHEN THE PRIME HAS THAT AVATAR TARGETED TO USE IT'S 2HR!)
3)That will damage the Prime badly and as a bonus, it will make the Prime consume all of its mp and reset its Bloodpact timer,and its 2h will miss! just as if a real summoner was trying the same thing in ballista! the Prime would theoretically recieve a "Target is out of range, unable to use 2h on <target>" if it were a player, not a monster.

Last step, as soon as the Summoner dismissed the avatar, have the other summoner use a Ver IV mag, in order to pull hate back, in fact, that last Ver IV should kill the Prime, if not, it will die shortly enough.

You can try to prove me wrong, but I have too many witnesses that this method works!
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RE: Kill Avatars fast and efficient!
# Nov 18 2004 at 11:16 AM Rating: Default
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Yeah, that strategy may work...
Or you could bring a PLD to tank, a WHM to cure him... and then just nuke him. XD
Worked for Shiva, Garuda, Titan all in a day without any sort of risk and veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery fast. ^^

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Titan VS Rumah
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in the Trial Size Trial By Lightning lv 65--> Rumah prime can smns in the pt summon titan?
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RE: Titan VS Rumah
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Trial Size Trial by Lightning battle, there are no level 65 players.. only level 20. In the Trial by Lightning battle, yes, summoners can summon Titan.
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RE: Titan VS Rumah
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you actually loose sleep trying to figure that out. i loose sleep over this game only when in a good prty or close to finishing somthing i started. /em points and laughs.
Multiple times
# Aug 29 2004 at 9:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Can you do the avatar quests multiple times? I've read in many places you can do them more than once but in my guide it says no....




btw this is my first post......be gentle
RE: Multiple times
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You can fight the full powered form of a single avatar once in a 24 hours (real life) period. What usually happens is you just work your way around the string of avatars in a night, stop for the night then repeat sometime later.
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fame level
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only lv6 windy fame for ramuh. "all the bards" have to be talking about you.
clear up
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As I was reading some posts I realized that some of you where right and some of you where wrong. I'm just gonna clear everything up quickly. The high-level Protocrystal battles require level 7-8 fame, but the level twenty solo battles only require level 3 fame. In order to get Fenrir, you need to have beaten all the HIGH LEVEL protocrystal battles, From each battle that you defeat, you will get a Whisper EX.such as an Earth Whisper for Titan or an Ice Whisper for Shiva. After you get ALL the whispers, you can then fight Fenrir with your HIGH LEVEL party. Your party also requires all the whispers. As for fame, Selbina and Rabao are both on San d'Oria fame. Kazham and Mhaura are both based on Windhurst fame. I learned most of this information on http://www.summoner.info . I hope I cleared up all this confusion.
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Clear up
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sorry for the double post, internet got disconnect so i resent by accident >_<

Edited, Thu Jul 29 22:45:09 2004
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Hmmmmmm....
# Jul 10 2004 at 1:07 PM Rating: Decent
Guys I heard something that may be rumor...but it may be useful to know if it's true.

I heard that you must have ALL avatar "whispers" collected PLUS the tuning fork to unlock Fenrir.

And....that the mini-prime's DO NOT give the whispers...which would mean that you would then have to refight the regular prime's at the normal time to get the whispers so you could unlock Fenrir.

Anyone have Fenrir that did the mini-Prime's that can confirm or dispell this rumor?

Thanks in advance!

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RE: Hmmmmmm....
# Jul 23 2004 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks for the confirmation. I really appreciate the response. (^-^)
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RE: Hmmmmmm....
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You do not get the whispers from the mini-primes. Only the ability to summon them. You must fight the lvl 60 Primes to get the whispers. And must turn them in to the taru in waters (forgot his name) to get the tuning fork for Fenrir. And Fenrir is about a lvl 70 fight.
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repeatable?
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Can I do this multiple times for multiple rewards or no?

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RE: repeatable?
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yeah its acctally a quest to pick the wierd item and get it to some wierd guy in norg for a reward, it ups the stats for SMN if i remember correctally ^^
RE: repeatable?
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Yes if you can beat the first six avatars twice (once for the wisper and once for their key item). Then fight Finrir for his key item you can turn them in on the Norg quest "Mama Mia" and you receive a Evocer's ring, it has excellant SMN stats.
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my friend wants to know where the videos of these fights are on the site where are they?
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#Nikopiko, Posted: May 28 2004 at 4:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OK i solo'd these fights, i solod ifrit and solod ramuh FOR THEM BOTH i need lvl 7 fame GOT THAT LVL 7 I DON'T CARE WHAT WORLD YOU ARE ON OR ANYTHING YOU NEED 7. now that i said that, it took me some grand total of 150 quests to do it. and i am only lvl 30 whm and lvl 20 summoner now ^^ and the solo fights for the summoner are soooo easy and NO THE AVATAR IS NOT WEAKER THEN THE PRIME FIGHTS. LOL morons... only difference is the guys fighting the prime fights feel really stupid staying in there first class so long, so the company changed it so Fenrir must still be fought in prime mode. So ah well, by that time my WHM will be 70 in a month or so....took me a day to get from 23-30 lol 8 hours playing, so easy.
RE: heh w.e
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haha 30 > 70 in a month? Please

Not when your levels require 30k exp each
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# May 14 2004 at 10:24 AM Rating: Decent
I got this quest at level 18 the first time I ever visited the area so the fame doesn't need to be high at all.
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Fame level
# Apr 16 2004 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Fame level 7? Is it Rank 7?
Or just the, talk to the person who tells you about your fame and you're at level 7 on some chart I haven't seen yet?
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RE: What this is...
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I wish I were speaking from experience but I was told from a level 75 summoner that you need level 7 fame for every avitar quest except leviathon, they said you need level 6 for that one. I do not know about fenrir because I talked to them before fenrir was added.
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# Apr 14 2004 at 5:01 AM Rating: Default
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you must have all of the summons to get Fenrir
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RE: What this is...
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Actually you just need the whispers to obtain the key item from the Tarutaru in Windurst. Then you go battle the super-avatar Fenrir. ^-^

Note: lv70+ is RECOMMENDED for Fenrir... he is VERY VERY powerful.

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# Mar 09 2004 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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Let me clear up a few things
Fame level required for all avatars is fame level 7
You dont get to choose and item right away you have to go back to the quest giver to get your choices. Rabao fame is linked to Selbina. But in order to get Garuda Jeuno fame is required NOT Rabao. Leviathan fame is Tenshido Fame and you must kill All of the Avatars to get Darkness Tuning fork for Fenrir quest. I have gotten 7/8 Avatars just so you know I am a reliable souce.
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Information pulled from the Quests forum: (About Windurst fame)
Quote:

Level 6
Mister Burninsensation! You'd have to be living in a hole somewhere not to have heard that name. All the bards in the land are singing songs of your outstanding deeds. Keep up the extraordinary work!


At this level of fame I was able to retrieve both Ifrit and Ramuh quests... The required ranking for them is 6.

Your information is quite accurate besides that ^-^
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# Feb 23 2004 at 3:42 PM Rating: Default
What level fame do you need? I've heard 7 and 9 from here, then 8 from a couple of my friends.
RE: ???
# Feb 29 2004 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
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While I haven't gotten this tuning fork yet (windy fame is so much harder than bastok or sandy >.<), the fame requirement in the other two cities' summoner quests has been level 7. I think it should be the same here ^^
RE: ???
# Mar 01 2004 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, after buying literally every cornette on Midgardsormr and farming a few of my own (poor little mandragoras didn't see it coming), I finally got enough fame for the Mhuara, and presumably Kazham though I haven't checked yet, avatar quests. Anyway, apparently I only needed level 6 fame in Windy to get these two quests. Considering that I checked with the owsie wowsie taru in Sandy after every stack of bat wings that I dropped off, I am certain about the level 7 requirement both there and in Bastok; I'd guess that the quests outside of the main cities simply require less fame.

By the way, the message that you're looking for from the Windy fame npc is, "You'd have to be living in a hole somewhere not to have heard that name. All the bards in the land are singing songs of your outstanding deeds. Keep up the extraordinary work!".

Good luck questing, and have fun with those avatar battles ^^
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that message is level 7 fame. Just so ya know.
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sort of a correction
# Feb 13 2004 at 7:06 AM Rating: Default
there are different levels of fame needed for different avatars I've noticed
rabao = san doria fame, yes?
I have enough fame in san doria for shiva, I have the ice fork on me right now, however I did not have enough fame for garuda, garuda = rabao = san doria, riiiight? I heard from someone 7 for shiva, 8-9 for garuda, don't know the accuracy of that however. I just know I can't get garuda ; ;
RE: sort of a correction
# Feb 24 2004 at 5:35 PM Rating: Default
Raboa fame is linked to bastok, not san d'oria
RE: sort of a correction
# Feb 19 2004 at 3:54 PM Rating: Default
Rabao fame is linked to Selbina, and while some people suggest that sandoria OR bastok fame links into them, i'm not entirely sure. But I do know they have their own fame level independant from the major cities.
RE: sort of a correction
# Mar 01 2004 at 9:36 AM Rating: Default
From what I can tell, Selbina/Rabao is linked to san and bastok equally, which is then somehow calculated in with selbina/rabao quests. If you check your selbina/rabao fame, I'll bet it lvl 7 to get garuda, even though your bas fame may be 6, and san fame may be 8.

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RE: sort of a correction
# May 12 2004 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't know about Rabao being connected to Bastok, however my fame is maxed in Sandoria. It's only lvl 5 in Bastok. I was able to initiate Shiva & Garuda quests, but not Titan. I also got one of the lowest prices for Dispel in Rabao @65k. I know this b/c in windy I am charged 79k & a friend of mine who has max fame in Windy got hers @ 65k as well. In addition, I got the teleport altep quests. All this to say, how much Bastok has to do with Rabao, I do not know, but if you simply go in with Sand fame, Garuda should be acquired as well.
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Clear it all up
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Let me clear up some things really quick. You only need level 7 fame, not nine (which is the max).

This is a mob that requires a 60+ PT. It can be done with people lower than that if you have a PLD that is like 70+ and can hold hate REALLY WELL. If you plan on doing this, try to get a high levl BLM or multiple BLM's to deal good damage and make the battle fast, and don't plan on living, cause there is a high chance that low level (less than 60) will get one hit KOed.

When you beat the guy, you do not get drops!!! You go back to the person that gave you the quest and he will give you the option of choosing one of the folllowing: the Pact (getting Summon Magic), 10,000 G, a Rare/Ex Weapon, a Rare/Ex belt, and a Rare/Ex Ring. You can do the quest many times to get all the items, but you can only do teh quest once per RL day.
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RE: Clear it all up
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Actually if you have a good WHM who does the Bar spell, it is very easy to live. I fought 2 avatars so far (at lvl 51) and the astral flow did 100-150 to me (and I was right beside them fighting). We didn't have a BRD to do the carol.
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I acquired Ramuh before they made it so only one party per day can kill him and he dropped the primes when i had fought him, so it wasnt false info just the info that i had from fighting him
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Quick question...
# Feb 06 2004 at 5:42 AM Rating: Default
Do these, and other summon battles, have level caps? If so what are they?
RE: Quick question...
# Feb 06 2004 at 2:29 PM Rating: Excellent
There is no level cap because for any chance of success, you need AT LEAST a full party of level 60+ players. Even with a full party of level 75 players, there is still a decent chance of failure.
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Actually, with a PT at level 70 this mob is a push over. Some people are able to solo these at 75. Mainly RDM's and PLD's.

Keep in mind though, getting to these places is not easy if you are a low level player looking to leech off these high level players.
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RE: Quick question...
# Feb 11 2004 at 9:02 AM Rating: Default
Thanks for the info!
RE: Quick question...
# Feb 06 2004 at 6:44 AM Rating: Default
i dont believe there is any level caps
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# Feb 06 2004 at 3:57 AM Rating: Default
hi, they dont drop Rumah Prime, you fight the Prime Avatar. At the end of the fight, each person in the party that killed him can choose one of the items, among those items include 10k gil, or the rumah summon. Please dont post false information. If your going to try to help, try doing a little research on it first, otherwise all your doing is steering people in the wrong direction and not really helping at all.
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Yes that person is right it can drop items but one other thing.... It drops a thunder staff, or a Ramuh Prime, Primes are used at lvl 65 and ill send in the stats of the primes when i figure out how to. also, even if he drops something you are allowed to make a pact with ramuh which allows you to obtain him as a summon, in order to get him you must have unlocked the summoner job, not nescessarily have it as a sub or main job. Hope this info was helpful to u ^^

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RE: Forgot something
# Feb 19 2004 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow you are way off track
Ramuh doesn't drop anything, there is a cut scene after you defeat him. He will give you part of his power (key item), then you go back to the NPC who gave you the quest and you get another cut scene and you decide what you want.
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What this is....
# Feb 06 2004 at 1:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes this is the quest to get Ramuh, and you must have MAX fame in windurst in order to give the quest, Ripapa is in Mhaura on the second floor of the town just to the side of the bridge over the path out of town. In order to finish this quest, you must get a party of lvl 65's including yourself or a party of lvl 70-75 with u being lvl 40 or higher, if for some reason the higher lvls bring u at lvl 30 or so make sure to either know reraise or bring an Instant Reraise Scroll bought at the guards for 500 gil. U need one because at half life each avatar uses their 2 hour ability which is an area attack. This applys to all avatar quests except different ways to get to their battle field and the guy is in a different place for each.
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RE: What this is....
# Feb 09 2004 at 9:50 AM Rating: Default
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Morons... You can get this quest with level 7 fame. That means there are two tiers more of fame so it is NOT the max fame. The same is of all the Avatar quests.
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RE: What this is....
# Feb 09 2004 at 4:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I like how you call everyone morons. I think your smart now.... oh and cool. Good job bud.
RE: What this is....
# Feb 13 2004 at 6:29 PM Rating: Default
Funny thing is, that Jago who is acting so high and mighty, just did the most n00b thing in trying to get my party killed, I hope he rots.

Pulled a lizard when we were out of MP and two of us were red, <_<
RE: What this is....
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everyone says you have to be high levels and i know this was an old post but i was grouped with a lvl 15 SMN and he had fenrir such a cool lookin summon
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RE: What this is....
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Maybe the reason why he has Fenrir is because he may have had a different higher lvl job to beat Fenrir.
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#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 05 2004 at 9:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) you neeed level 9 fame to get this quest and level 58 group to kill him there are also 5 thing you can get from killing him 3 items one rare staff gil aka 10k or ramuh as a summon pet ^^
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