Trial By Ice  

Submitted by:Kurtomatic
Realm:San d'Oria
Start Area: Northern San d'Oria
Start NPC:Gulmama (E - 7)
Type:Job Related
Related Mobs:Shiva Prime
Min Level:45
Max Level:75
Grants Gil:10
(Average from 14 ratings)
Title Obtained:Heir of the Great Ice
Items Granted:Ice Belt
Ice Ring
Rust 'B' Gone
Shiva's Claws
Last Updated: Fri Feb 11 08:24:21 2005

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First, a few notes about Avatar in general fights. This is not the Trial Size quest, which is the solo fight, capped at level 20 (refer to Trial Size Trial by Ice for that quest). Everyone who is involved in the fight must have a tuning fork of the correct protocrystal. There is no cap on this battle, although there is a 30-minute time limit (not that it ever seems to be important).

General level guidelines: 60+ for melee and 55+ for mages. You’ll want a Black Mage for certain and a solid tank, but the rest is relatively flexible. A well-balanced party is critical, though. You’ll likely want at least 2 of the following 3: Red Mage, White Mage and Bard. You will want one of the melee or the Bard to be able to cast Bar-a spells. Having the WHM or BLM try to cast them will be problematic. Our strategy for this was to have the RDM sub WHM and melee using the appropriate En-spell for easy Bar-a casting. Additionally, if you can buy an Enhancing Torque (usually much cheaper than corresponding Torques), that will add 2-3 points of resistance to Bar-spells. Additionally Mal-rings (from the ghost NM’s in Gusgen Mines) can be helpful for the fight. You can buff up before entering the protocrystal, so feel free to do so and rest up while still outside.

Battle strategy for all six fights is pretty much the same. The battlefield layout for all six fights is exactly the same, although the coloration scheme for the battlefield will be different. The battlefield is shaped like a long path up the side of hill, with a switchback about halfway to the top. This topographical feature allows the mages to stand above the fight (and out of easy reach of the avatar) while still being able to cast spells upon the combatants. This allows for the tank(s) to have extra time to pull hate back should the mages draw it. It is ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL to keep the correct Bar-spell up at all times. Not doing this will result in multiple deaths when the Avatar’s 2-hour comes (at about halfway), and will likely produce a loss. Each avatar is also only easily susceptible to debuffs of the element they are weak to (i.e. Shiva can be Paralyzed). Whether they are susceptible to other enfeebles of very high level is not confirmed.

It is strongly recommended to fight each avatar on the day it is weak to (i.e. Shiva on Firesday) and even more strongly recommended NOT to fight the avatar on its day (i.e. Shiva on Iceday). Spells of each element are much stronger on their specific day of the week.

Each quest is repeatable, but only once per real life day. Once you have returned to the quest giver and gotten your reward, you have to wait 24 hours (some say midnight Japanese time) in order to get the quest again. At that point, you can get a new tuning fork. Each time you complete the quest, you can choose ONE reward from the list, which varies from avatar to avatar.

In order to get the Fenrir quest (The Moonlit Path), you have to have whispers (key items) from all six elemental avatars. This means that you can’t turn them in for reward until you have all six, at which point you can give them to the Fenrir quest giver (Leepe-Hoppe in Windurst Waters). So, in order to be able to get Fenrir and all six avatars, you’ll need to fight each of them at least twice. Additionally, if you are a Summoner, the Evoker’s Ring is only obtainable through the Mama Mia quest in Norg, which would mean you would have to fight them each a third time.

If you can’t get any of these quests, the problem is likely fame. Each quest giver is a taru who stands next to a non-taru warrior. If you don’t have sufficient fame, the taru will just complain about being hurt a lot while his companion will discuss perseverance and not giving up. If you have sufficient fame, the Tarutaru will give you the fork. The non-taru will give you a Trial Size Tuning Fork if you have met the requirements.


To obtain the Ice Avatar Shiva, first speak of Gulmama in North San D’oria, near the exit to West Ronfaure and the Watchtower. If you have sufficient fame, he will give you a tuning fork of ice (key item).

To use this, you need to travel to Fei’Yin and find the Cloister of Frost. To travel to Fei’yin by foot, you must walk through Ranguemont Pass and then travel through Beaucedine Glacier to the very north end. A map of all of these places is highly recommended, but Fei’Yin in particular. Sneak is all that is needed in Fei’Yin until you get to the very end and see Weapons.

To get to the Cloister of Frost from the Fei’Yin front door, take a right out of the first room and follow that path for awhile. Keep straight when you have a choice, and eventually you will come to stairs at G-9. Go down the stairs (check the bats at the bottom – they are a lot harder than those at the top). Take the first left you come to beyond the stairs and once you come to a room, take the NW passage. Follow that path for a bit and take the first left. You will come to a large room full of Utukkus, Golems and Bats. Follow the right wall in the room north until you come to another passageway – take it. You will walk through a couple of rooms with Spectres and you will eventually see some Weapons. Put up Invisible for these and run by them. Shortly past then you will zone into the Cloister of Frost. The Protocrystal is right inside the front door – as is the Cermet Headstone for ZM5.

Try to fight Shiva on Firesday, and do not fight her on Iceday. Keep up Barblizzara at all times, if you can.

Once you defeat her, you will acquire the Key Item: Ice Whisper. Return it to Gulmama for your reward, or hold onto it. If you have all six whispers simultaneously, you can give them to Leepe-Hoppe in Windurst Waters to gain the Moon Bauble – which is basically the Tuning Fork of the Moon – the ability to fight Fenrir. If you are collecting items for the Evoker’s Ring, you will want the Rust ‘B’ Gone.


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fame 6
# Nov 22 2008 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Heya, i've been gearing to smn since before the game came out so I was wondering, did anybody else have to wait till they where fame 6 cause i was checking everytime my fame went up and not till fame 6 could i flag this one.
# Mar 24 2008 at 9:14 AM Rating: Decent
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can i do this at 45 if i got a full pt of people like arround 60 -75?
# Mar 24 2008 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
If you attempt the avatar fight on the day of the week that it is weak against and use the corresponding Bar- Spell, completing the fight will be much easier.
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# Nov 02 2007 at 8:19 AM Rating: Decent
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ok liol this was easy as making meat mithkabobs. me and my friend went in an beat her.

55WHM/27SMN (me)

he beat her down with carbuncle and ended with inferno with ifrit and it was over lol. we barely took any damage at all ^^. Got the whisper 1 outta 6 XD.
NM hunter with WHM54/SMN27 deal with it XD
# Oct 27 2007 at 8:05 AM Rating: Decent
14 posts
Was easy.

Diamond dust did 0 dmg.

Gear- SH, evasion torque, genbu shield, elusivex2, corse cape. Everything else AF and normal crap.

Foor- Tav Taco

get in buff up. Keep up bar spells. Although she did resist every enfeeble even dispell on Lightning day. Cap enf.+4 merits. Switched to some magic acc. gear and spider torque for it also had no luck. When she did her ice spike crap I just turned around for a couple shadow casts and it wore off.

Didn't even have to convert.

Took 22mins. Not very time effective but it wasn't hard.
woof woof
fuck shiva
# Sep 17 2007 at 6:27 AM Rating: Decent
6 posts
I fought this ***** twice with a 75rdm/nin both times. I am hating this *****. I am a 61 blu de-lvled from dying twice against her. I have trried shouting for parties and everyone is too scared to fight her. If anyone is on hades and would like to help, look up Jrjhayes the blue mage. I need this badly. Will be my first avatar I would own aside from carby. Oh and the fame thing, "You are famous in our kingdom ect.." is only rank 5 fame, you need at least rank 6 mine is 8.
WHM/NIN solo
# Apr 30 2007 at 1:56 PM Rating: Excellent
78 posts
For anyone interested, here is a successful setup for solo'ing Shiva Prime with WHM/NIN.

My setup/info:

Weapons: Morgenstern/Darksteel Maul
Ammo: Bibiki seashell
Head: Walhara Turban
Neck: Evasion torque
Body: Reverend Mail
Hands: Blessed Mitts
Legs: Blessed trousers
Feet: Blessed pumps
Waist: Scouter's rope
Ear: Suppanomimi/Ethereal earring
Ring: Rajas Ring/Puissance ring
Back: Cheviot cape

Items used: Jack o'Lantern, Yagudo Drinkx5, Pro-ether, Hi-potx3
Macro pieces: Used Cleric's pantaloons and pumps for Barspell, Voyager Sallet and Chivalrous chain for Hexa strike
Fought on: Firesday
Clear time: 19min
2Hr: Not used
Enfeebles: Dia II only. She resists everything else on first try so I didn't bother.
*Merits: 3 Evasion/2 Club/4 Crit%/1 Bar/ProV-ShV/

As you can see, this setup doesn't kill quick. It's about outlasting her. The first time I tried it I ran out of MP (used an Icarus wing for Hexa>Black Halo... did extra 200pts which wasn't really worth it--save medicated status for Pro-ether). When she casted sleepga, I cancelled stoneskin and waited for her to clear shadows, wake me up, got Ni back up immediately and re-applied stoneskin. If you have Skin, Ni and Bar, Diamond Dust shouldn't touch you... it's her other physical BPs that you should watch out for. Also, the second time around I used a Jack o'Lantern instead of Chiefkabob. I found that the +Evasion was more valuable than addng more ATT. Overall, keep buffs up, be patient and whittle her down to nothing. It's a lot of fun!

Bonne chance! (*^_^)b
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# Mar 20 2007 at 6:11 AM Rating: Decent
2 posts
why make it so hard? get a nin/whm to solo it for you.

I solo'd it again today as nin/whm. didnt even reach yellow hp.

gl ya'll
Shiva on Shiva
# Dec 29 2006 at 3:43 AM Rating: Decent
33 posts
Beat this thing with 6 people, 65 WHM (me), 65 BRD, 69 RDM, 75 BLM, 75 BST, and 66 PLD.

Our plan was to make the Beastmaster's Crab pet tank first and after it dies the paladin will take over, so we buffed up, ate food, barblizzard, reraise ect. and went in.

My friend told me he had trouble soloing it because of paralyze so I casted Barparalyna too, anyway we pulled it down a bit so the mages could move up the stairs while the BST and the PLD hit it at the bottom. When we were moving up the stairs Shiva casted Sleepga and slept everyone except me and the BST. So I cast curaga and get the hate, luckily I had blink and stoneskin up. Good thing for blink it took down her 2 first hits right away and took 1 hit with stoneskin, recasted blink and continued upstairs.

Everything was going smoothly but the BLM kept getting hate and Shiva kept running around switching hate with the blackmage ><. After a few mins of that we just said ***** it and told the Paladin (66 Taru PLD)to voke. I threw a regen on him and kept him at full HP and trying to keep Barbillzard up.

After a little less then half HP, Shiva busted her 2 HR and 1-shot our Bard from full HP. Poor little Taru never saw it coming ; ;. I Cure IV the PLD after the 2HR and the BLM gives it one last Nuke and it dies.

20 Seconds from the Record but still a fun fight.

Tip: Keep Barblizzard up at ALL times on ALL members. A Blackmage and/or SMN is a must, stay out of range of sleepga and of course her 2HR.

Edited, Dec 29th 2006 12:50pm by RoyalXArcher
What am I doing wrong?
# Dec 17 2006 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
Help I've been trying to get the Avatar quest for weeks. My fame is above the required level in all cities the only tuning fork I have been able to get is water. What am I doing wrong the taru just says "owie don't make me talk" every time I talk to him. I double checked and I do not already have them? I'm at a loss HELP! Yes I have summoner unlocked.

Windy fame =9
Sandy Fame =8
Bastok Fame =7
Jeuno fame =9
Kazham fame= 8
Norg= 6 (I have that fork)
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What am I doing wrong?
# Dec 31 2006 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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I am sorry I am not a normal poster here, however I am a sponge for others thoughts. LOL....

For all of you that can not flagged this quest I had the same problem with Hero Fame in Sandy. I dont know if it worked in this order but I checked my fame at lions springs, then I talked to the Taru he kept saying Owie dont make me talk I hurt all over, then after about the 3rd time, he said Hey your that famous adventurer Glivont!!! then he told me a story. It took me about 2 hours to figure out how to get this quest flagged. I hope this works for you, this isnt proven I could of just been lucky.
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# Nov 23 2006 at 5:06 PM Rating: Decent
24 posts
i just did this with 2 friends its duoable by a 75 smn and a rdm to refresh lol carby kited her
Fame and Job
# Jul 11 2006 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay 2 questions. One what lvl fame is necessary for the prime Avatar battles. Ywo I have unlocked smn but does that have to be the job I use for the prime battle to get the summon or can I go with another job as long as I just have smn available
Fame and Job
# Aug 29 2006 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
27 posts
well no for the job and fame about rank 7
# Mar 21 2006 at 5:52 PM Rating: Decent
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oops, double post ^^;

Edited, Tue Mar 21 16:50:41 2006
# Mar 21 2006 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
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So I, as a whm61/blm30 when in with my friend rdm75/nin37 ^^!
It was Iceday, and it took 12 minutes :P but we beat her. In fact, about midway she 2hr'd, and I do not think it did more than 200 to him.
She spammed Frost Armor and Heavenly Strike, and the most damage she did was with Blizzard IV that did about 400 to him.
She hit me once when I Cure III'd, and it did 0 damage, with an additional effect of 143, haha.
The quest level is off...
# Feb 16 2006 at 1:12 AM Rating: Decent
I'm only level 37 and I recieved this quest.

At first I thought it was the size trial, but the fork is one of my key items not one of the inventory items...

Just thought I'd throw that out there >.>
/ma "Pollen" <me>
# Feb 14 2006 at 1:54 PM Rating: Decent
144 posts
I was having a very similar problem as the people posted below me, so I figured I'd post to clear up the problem regarding not being able to get the quest. I found out this is due to a BAD statement from Namonutice about fame. You need level 6 fame to get this quest and most people think when you check your fame and get "You're famous in the kingdom. People having no ill words about you and do good will to the kingdom she will do the same for you or something." or something close to that. That is ONLY level 5, although it seems like he is saying you're rank 8, it's only rank 5. Rank 6 (which is the minimum you need) will say "I would venture that much the kingdom has heard your name! And your reputation sparkles. Indeed I am proud of you. And to think I first knew you when you were a new recruit!!" Once you have this rank, you can get the quest.

There are three quests that are really for the best to get fame in Sandy. If you have the money (right now I'd say 100k on valefor)just buy rabbit hides (trade to Parvipon E-8) and flint stones (trade to Legata K-6). If you don't have the money and need to farm them, bat wings work great and rabbit hides. the Bat wing quest isn't that good if you have to buy them. they go between 8-12k per stack, as where rabbit hides and flint stones go for between 2500-5000.

Hope this helps....this really made me mad that I coudn't get the quest when I thought I had enough fame.
# Dec 16 2006 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
132 posts
Also, a good quest is the "Only the Best" quest in Selbina. It raises Sandy, Bastok, and Jeuno fame (along with their respective sublands). Just check the regions and see who is in charge of Aragoneu, go to that nation, get endless stacks of milioncorn, and go to the old man with the sheep in Selbina. I got my mule to rank 4 in one visit (granted I had a friend there who carried some with me). You lose, like, 10gil per milion corn, so it's extremely cost effecient, and it's not to level several locations at once.

Only the best quest: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/quests.html?fquest=180
Dont mess with the ice woman
# Jan 27 2006 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
6 posts
Long story short...
Did this yesterday with mnk,drg,smn,rdm,blm,pld<me>. Shiva is about 3/4 dead untill i see 3 party member's hp bars hit 0 including mine. Due to lag Diamond Dust animation went off late. She knocked me for about 1400 damage as a 66 pld with best gear at the time and i made sure to not equip jelly ring. I dont think we faught her on iceday but either way i got owned. Back to LFP again lol.
I plead the fif!
3 members
# Jan 15 2006 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
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I've killed shiva yesterday with 3 members: Me (Rdm/blm 54) a friend smn/whm lvl 73 and another smn/whm lvl 71.
It was pretty easy, and was ice day too!!!
I just had to keep them refreshed, they casted 2 ifrit and send them fight shiva, shiva never attacked us, and sometimes i used Fire II on her, but i was not doing that much damage as rdm...
That was a succes! ^^
Problems w/ Tuning Forks
# Jan 02 2006 at 1:49 AM Rating: Decent
59 posts
Okay I think I've read over this and someone had a similar issue, but there was no resolution posted.
I have hero fame in Sandy. And I cannot get the tuning fork for Shiva. I don't have it already. I've never touched the quest before now. Is there something else that I have to activate. Or something that I need to finish first? I have the quest started for Fenrir but obviously I can't continue til I have beaten all the Avatars at least once. Anyone?
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RE: Problems w/ Tuning Forks
# Jan 03 2006 at 8:23 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
I had the same problem.....you may try to talk to castilchat first....it worked for me
just want to clarify
# Nov 20 2005 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
4 posts
I just want to clarify, so what the guide says, does it mean that you can fight her multiple times? I'm curious because I want to get the Ice Ring for my blm and if I can't repeat the fight more than once, I don't want to miss out on having Shiva as an avatar for my summoner. Please answer my question, thanks.
RE: just want to clarify
# Dec 16 2005 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
1,985 posts
You can fight her as many times as you want, however you have to wait 24 rl hours before you can get the quest again.
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#wiccaan, Posted: Oct 26 2005 at 2:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Haha just faught her with a few friends. Was gunna go in and solo her.. but a friend came on and needed the whisper and he had a friend who needed it too. And then he had a friend as well.. so it turned into
not to bad
# Sep 08 2005 at 8:21 PM Rating: Decent
38 posts
did this tonite with some LS friends. 72 nin 70 sam 67 rdm 60 rdm(me). keep haste on nin and barblizzara up(i subbed whm for that). no problems. the 2 rdm stayed back so her sleepga didnt sleep all of us and we stayed outa her 2hr range. it was a little longer than a full pty of 65-70+ but you get 30 min....so why not use it. it took us about 11 min to beat her down.btw paralyze was the only enfebb that stuck...and i think dark SC healed her.
# Aug 29 2005 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
18 posts
I've been battling the lvl 20 Titan Ramuh and Shiva for almost 3 mounths now (yes i really suck) mostly i do them once every 2 weeks, or whenever i'm bored. I got to 60whm and got Garuda with party. My problem is that when i try to pick up the key item forks for Titan, Ramuh and Shiva's 60 prime fights, the little taru dudes ignore me.
~Once you pick up the lvl 20 mini forks, are you unable to collect the lvl 60 key item fork?
~Is there a way to trade in the mini forks for the key item forks?
~Do the lvl 60 prime fights need more fame then the lvl 20?
Here's the stupid question:
~Are you allowed into the lvl 60 prime battle field without the key item?
# Sep 03 2005 at 4:13 AM Rating: Decent
77 posts
You should be able to do both at the same time. I'm guessing that the reason you cannot get the Taru to give you a regular tuning for is because you dont have enough fame? You need at least level 6 fame (4 in Norg) for the Taru to give you the regular fork to fight the avatar with a party. Mini forks only require about level 3-4 fame.

And as far as getting in without the key item goes... yes, and no. You CAN enter the battlefield without the regular "Tuning Fork of ___" item just by examining the crystal, however all that gets you is a fight SOLO against the lvl 60+ Prime Avatar. (Not good). So for the party battles, yes, every member of the party must have a tuning fork.

Hope that helped ^^ Good luck!

Edited, Sat Sep 3 05:20:21 2005
# Aug 22 2005 at 5:03 AM Rating: Default
4,632 posts
Very. Easy. Her "Sleepga" would "miss" me. Her two hour did 0 damage.

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RE: Duh
# Sep 29 2005 at 2:24 AM Rating: Decent
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in reference to sleepga, would poison potion or something work for this or does she have some kind of special sleepga? May sound like a stupid question, but i'm just asking. Wow, not getting it at 60WHM...... got mine at 52WAR, the fork that is, I missed out on a chance cause of work, but LS is gonna do it again soon. For the 60WHM, it prolly has a lot to do with the fame, cause i have hero fame in sandy and got the fork at 52.
RE: Duh
# Oct 26 2005 at 2:24 PM Rating: Default
45 posts
It would work. I dont know any mobs that have sleep that wouldnt be effected by poison or something of the sort.
Ouch, just....ouch
# Aug 20 2005 at 5:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok when you do these fights, do NOT go in without a whm to cast barblizzara. I was the only one that died, and I got raised so that I would be able to get her but her 2hr really nuked the party hard.

But that's not the worst part. The worst part hands-down is that she SPAMS sleepga. The entire party was asleep for the majority of the fight, and several people had to 2hr to get her down [when they weren't asleep]. Hyakusa the 75 sam/nin basically soloed her, and he's incredible.

Anyway finished, but definitely have a whm and preferably a backup whm that stands way back to cure people out of sleep.

Oh yes and as a 60 drk my stun was resisted every time. If you're a melee, try to be higher, like 65-70, before doing these fights.

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FF6 Ref
# Aug 14 2005 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
I love the Final Fantasy 6 reference. Rust-B-Gone was an item used to get to Cyan in the World of Ruin.

My apologies for useless post just had to get that out. lol
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# Jul 17 2005 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Yay, I recently hit level 30 and had my eyes set on SMN since my main job is RDM 30.
I'm a level 6 summoner. can i fight the full avatars with like a kickass party?
Oh ive been playing for roughly a month ^^
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level 20 fight
# Jul 04 2005 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
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i am a blm50/whm25 and would like to level smn but don't want to until i get all the avatars. do i have to have smn to 20 for the mini- fights and if so are there anyone on quez that is going to do these fights? and if so can i tag along
RE: level 20 fight
# Jul 06 2005 at 4:04 PM Rating: Decent
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If you get your summoner to 20, you can get the Mini Tuning fork of <element> and do the solo avatar fights. Right now you're a little low for the full avatar fights, but if you see somebody shouting, they may let you join if they have a high level or 2... or one high rdm... or something...
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Avatars fight
# Jun 29 2005 at 2:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Guys, Avatars fight are realy easy listen this.
I got a static for avatar, me RDM 72, a PLD 66, a WHM 58 and a WHM 60.We always take the 2 missing member by shout in Jeuno.
When you reach 1 of the 7 cloister, buffs before enter and give PLD refresh,regen,Bar-anti.elemental avatar.
during the fight dont keep the WHM or BLM refreshed but just PLD and keep him haste too.
The battle needs at least 1 lvl 70+ to win fast.
this is it have fun!
Avatar Fights
# Jun 04 2005 at 10:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi, ive been trying out an strategy for fighting avatars but i must do somethin wrong if i cant beat them so this is what i do: First before i go up to the avatar i take a yagudo drink and boiled crab, then i go up and let Carbuncle fight while i run down to avoid getting hit, and i keep doin this till the avatar has lost half hp, then i summon carbuncle to fight take another yagudo drink, and hi-potion like just in case if ive been hit, make carbuncle use searing light so the avatar lose alot of hp, then i run as fast as i can and try to summon it back so i can do the searing light again and defeat the avatar, but the problem is i never get so far because when ive used searing light and i try to run as fast as possible to summon him again but the avatar always reaches me and interrupts the casting.. what am i doing wrong,, plz answere me because im getting sick and tired of losing ALL the time..
# May 13 2005 at 11:33 PM Rating: Decent
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whats the min Lv to fight avatars in a party, i keep hearing different things and would like to start getting them =) please let me know thanks ^^
some well deserved info for you'z
# Apr 05 2005 at 1:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I fought shiva 2x in the same day. (Today) Unless your Tuning Fork of Ice (key item) is used by beating the Avatar then you can go in as many times as you like. Once you beat it "THEN" is when you wait till it's a new day in Japan =) hope that helps some people that get discouraged if they loose.
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# Mar 10 2005 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
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...this is just a retarded lil beyotch i want to rule... I'm Rank 5-2 (Rank Bar full) i've done at least 42 Quests and the guy STILL wont give me quest...i hate it if it is this hard for me to get it in my home country where I've done most of my quests then ****...I will never get Ramuh or Ifrit....no chance of Fenrir ><
# Feb 25 2005 at 8:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Just got the Sylph Server Record with RDM56(me) PLD72(Frulond), MNK72(Ryoten), WHM72(Farl), BLM65(Xii), BLM60(Tadaka). 4:40^^
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fight prime more then once
# Feb 01 2005 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
4 posts
i'm a lvl 33 smn and u can fight the prime more then once in a 24 hr prd. just to clear things up i live in japan and fought the prime at 9p.m and lost and turned around and fought it again after it hit midnight. so u can fight the prime more then once in a 24 hr prd.
RE: fight prime more then once
# Feb 14 2005 at 8:21 PM Rating: Decent
28 posts
Ya, its once a japanese day (10am PST is japanese midnight), not once every 24 hours. Because u fought the second time right after midnight, the next time you could fight would be a little under 24 hours.
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Can i do this
# Jan 31 2005 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
32 posts
im a level 10 smn and i have seen level ones have all avatars. can i just get a bunch of people to help me and ill just stand back and fight with carby?
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RE: Can i do this
# Feb 13 2005 at 2:40 AM Rating: Good
11,576 posts
You COULD get all of the prime avatar fights done at a very low level, but it would be very, very expensive, and very, very time consuming.

It may help to understand that the Summoner job used to be thought of as a "reward" job or a "prestige" job. When the game was first released in North America, there were no tuning fork battles. You had to do the lvl 60+ Prime Avatar battles if you wanted any summons other than Carbunkle.

I have a friend who, as a lvl 40 something BLM decided he wanted to level SMN. He did this before the mini tuning forks were introduced, so what he would do is load up on Silent Oil and Prism Powder and go to each Cloister where he would wait.

And wait.

And wait.

He would leave his computer turned on with the sound turned up while he slept so the sounds of high level parties buffing in to prepare for the fight would wake him up and he could rush to the computer to see if they had room for one more. If they did, he would join them, stand well out of the way, and contribute in what little way he could.

In the end, he was able to get all of the avatars this way (except Fenrir), but it took weeks and hundreds of thousands of gil worth of Silent Oil/Prism Powder to accomplish.

Personally, as a lvl 66 Ranger, I have all 6 tuning forks for the Prime Battles, and as time goes by I'll do avatar fights as the opportunity presents itself. When I have done all of the avatar fights, I may consider leveling SMN. (It's currently lvl 4).

To me, nothing says "prestige" about a prestige job more than showing up to Valkurm Dunes with a giant silver wolf for a pet ^^
RE: Can i do this
# Feb 13 2005 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
32 posts
ok then do i have to be lvl 45 in any job to get the prime battles with another class or can i just get the fork for the full prime at lvl 10
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RE: Can i do this
# Apr 29 2005 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
183 posts
you can be lvl 10 but.... it would be extremely hard. you would have to do as the person above did and wait and wait and wait
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RE: Can i do this
# Jun 03 2005 at 5:14 AM Rating: Decent
52 posts
Is it possible to get a high level friend (75RDM/37NIN) to solo this as i stand and watch? what level would i need to be to get into the fight? SMN/any job?
# Jan 14 2005 at 8:01 AM Rating: Decent
2 posts
I fought her yesterday and lost. I had all my supplies, buffs, and subbed WAR for defense. At the start of the battle all was going well. I got her down to about 1/3 of her HP after two searing lights and a bit of pownding from carbuncle. About 5 seconds after I landed my second searing light she killed carbuncle. I was right up on her becuase I had to use searing light, but luckily with heki obi+1 and hermit's wand i managed to resummon carbuncle. after Shiva landed a few hits on me my HP was rather low. I attempted to use a hi-potion, but my macro set swapped and i couldn't find it before carbuncle died again. I started to run so that I could use a hi-potion from the menu list but in the stressful situation of getting away from the avatar i got stuck on some random spot in the geography. I died shortly after a critical hit. All in all the battle and preperations were perfect. I got off two searing lights having used only one yag drink(which I should have used two by now im sure) and two ethers. I will try to beat her again when i get home. If I could give any advice it would be, while you may have researched a few methods of winning, go with your specific situation and act accordingly. Most the time things end up going a bit unplanned, and between focusing on the strategy you planned, and maintaining getting things back on track, you will most likely die. Also I went into the battle with 3yag drinks, 4ethers, 3 hi-potions. It is always useful to overstock being as you can use left over items in other avatar battles, or if this be your last battle then resell them.
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# Jan 03 2005 at 3:17 AM Rating: Decent
119 posts
I got rank 10 fame and STILL can't get this quest (does this have to do with me not having smn at all?)
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RE: Fame
# May 08 2005 at 10:00 PM Rating: Decent
105 posts
First off you can't have lv 10 fame becaues there are only 9 lvs of fame. If you mean rank 10, that has nothing to do fame so you could still need more. You do NOT need to unlock SMN to start thhis quest, you DO need it to choose summon [insert avatar here] as a reward (<<<never confermed this but from a reliable source)or to start Trial-sized Trial by [insert element here]. I hope this helps you out in some way.
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RE: Fame
# Jan 20 2005 at 2:07 PM Rating: Default
178 posts
Yes you have to have a smn before u can get this quest.
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RE: Fame
# Feb 06 2005 at 5:14 AM Rating: Default
1,246 posts
No, that's not true, i have still to get my Carbuncle Ruby and just a while ago got this quest, Sandy hero, rank 6, 44+ quests complete in Sandy, lvl 55, no SMN.

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# Nov 30 2004 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
892 posts
Ok, I'm collecting the high level tuning forks to prepare for when I reach such levels.

The fame guy tells me that "I'm famous in the kingdom." And something about people having no ill words about me or something and do good will to the kingdom and she will do the same for you or something.

And Gulmama won't give me the quest... Anyone have a suggestion? I got the Fork for the Cloiser of Lightning and I have less fame in Windy I think...
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RE: Evvvvil
# Dec 10 2004 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
8 posts
I've got this quest with level 7 fame in San d'Oria: "Licoge practically everyone in the kingdom knows your name. Your reputation is stellar..." etc.
Fame in other cities like Bastok and Windurst is not related to this quest.
In your case you need to work on your fame a bit more. Just check for the quest every time your fame raises. A post at the begging of this forum states you need level 6 fame to get the quest.

Edited, Fri Dec 10 11:18:26 2004
primes at 20
# Nov 15 2004 at 10:12 AM Rating: Decent
13 posts
After many solo fights which i lost convincingly even while following the stratagy, i decided to get my fame up for the prime fights. Next i went to jeuno and have met some very nice high level players, i now have shiva and garuda. this was as a lev20 smn using the mini fork to warp to cloisters. You can only do this if high levels are willing to let you tag along.
Thanks again to the people that helped me get my avatars so far.

Alexander = server
# Oct 10 2004 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
33 posts
after u beat an avatar once can u fight it again for another reward?
RE: reward
# Nov 05 2004 at 1:34 AM Rating: Decent
307 posts
You can only defeat shiva once per day. But there is no limit to how many times you can defeat her total

i guess that means yes
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Can we do it?
# Sep 28 2004 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
9 posts
If per say, a group of level 75's or 70's and one level 45 tried to take on the avatars, can they do it? i mean i would think they can if a group of 65+ DD and 55+ mages then a group of 70+ and 1 45 should be able to right?
RE: Can we do it?
# Jan 24 2005 at 6:31 AM Rating: Decent
22 posts
i know a guy on my Ls (75rdm/nin) thats been soloing them this week, so ya, should not be a prob.
RE: Can we do it?
# Oct 01 2004 at 8:19 AM Rating: Decent
23 posts
I know from first-hand experience that you can do this cuz when i fought ifrit i was a lvl 40war/20mnk n i had a lvl 75nin/37war, a lvl 73whm/smn two lvl 60s (one was a smn) n a lvl 56 rdm n we owned. The nin the 2 smns took it n owned. It took like 7 mins. I just sat back n watched. I did the same with Ramuh. Hopefully I can get Shiva today. The trip to the cloister is really the hardest part.
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min lvl???
# Aug 16 2004 at 8:02 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
does that mean that you dont have to have a job with lvl45 to get avatars at lvl20???
RE: min lvl???
# Sep 01 2004 at 9:34 AM Rating: Decent
311 posts
NO, there are 2 ways to fight the avatars. One uses the 'mini tuning fork' those are SMN solo fights with a level 20 cap. The other is the full power form where you fight the avatar in at a much higher level and also can get much nicer rewards.

Edited, Wed Sep 1 10:35:05 2004
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Our fight
# Aug 16 2004 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
9 posts
We just took shiva on,
and i must say we barely
made it, becuase of the AoE
sleep, that Sh*t has such
huge range so becarefull
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i made;


Edited, Mon Aug 16 20:35:25 2004
#shawndh, Posted: Aug 11 2004 at 7:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) whant to win agans l 20 avatar what you do. get tow hermat wands. use ninja as sub.get robary pie make up the mp los using the ninja.need one yag drinck,2 hi-potions,2-3 hi-ethers best to tack 3,get a hi-lvler whm or summner give you bufs. go up the trale before the avatar get in vew use a yag drinck,cast carb,use 2h have carb attack the avatar. get cloase use the light attack.go off run than popa ether.ready summon carb agan.use the 2 light attack. than run after go off.pop a 2 ether.ready recast carb. than use the last light. it should die if all three light do 200 damage.fight the day the avatar week aganst. never fight on darck day
level 20
# Jul 20 2004 at 11:00 PM Rating: Decent
1,090 posts
for the level 20 fights you have to trade the mini fork to the crystal thingy
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# Jul 19 2004 at 6:15 PM Rating: Decent
119 posts
Everyone is saying you can get these avatars at lvl 20? Im now confused....
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somethings wrong?
# Jul 16 2004 at 4:46 AM Rating: Decent
I fought the lvl-20 Shiva and she ripped me a new one!!!
I summoned carb. he attacked then she attacked, and killed him in one hit!
Then ran threw me like it was nothing hurting me for 536 damage in one hit at lvl 20 no summnor can take a hit like that...
I need any advice or help you have to offer please.
RE: somethings wrong?
# Aug 10 2004 at 7:12 AM Rating: Decent
15 posts
thats because you probaly fought the tougher version that needs a full party to take down. you have to trade a mini tuning fork of ice to the crystal first.

Edited, Tue Aug 10 08:12:59 2004
# Jun 25 2004 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
I fought Shiva and she whooped my a$$! Is there an easy way to beat her????
# Jun 06 2004 at 2:57 AM Rating: Decent
1 post
what level is this fame.... "ah "your name"!! U are very famous in our kingdom , there is not ill word about u, something like this, please help
LvL 20 fight
# Jun 04 2004 at 12:56 PM Rating: Default
1 post
I heard that you ca fight them at lvl 20 by yourself....at their lower version...is it true? and if so, can you really beat them?
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