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Treasure and Tribulations  

Realm:Jeuno
Start Area: Balga's Dais
Start NPC:Shami (H - 8)
Type:BCNM
Max Party:3
Related Mobs:Mimic
Max Level:50
Rating
*****
(Average from 15 ratings)
Items Required:Comet Orb
Items Granted:Astral Ring
Conjurer's Ring
Darksteel Ore
Drake Ring
Fencer's Ring
Gold Ingot
Gold Ore
Guardian's Ring
Kampfer Ring
Light Spirit Pact
Mahogany Log
Medicine Ring
Minstrel's Ring
Petrified Log
Platinum Ore
Rogue's Ring
Ronin Ring
Scroll of Freeze
Scroll of Quake
Scroll of Raise II
Scroll of Regen III
Shinobi Ring
Slayer's Ring
Soldier's Ring
Sorcerer's Ring
Tamer's Ring
Tracker's Ring
Wyvern Scales
This Quest is Repeatable
Last Updated: Sun Mar 20 10:30:06 2011

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Battle Notes

To begin, trade 50 Beastmen Seals to Shami at (H-8) in Port Jeuno in order to obtain the Rare/Ex item Comet Orb. Upon receiving the orb, make your way to the Balga's Dais zone located in the Giddeus dungeon.

Be advised that only three players can enter the battlefield, that their levels will be capped at level 50, and that there is a 30 minute time limit that starts the moment the orb trader enters the battlefield.

Upon entering the battlefield, you will find three treasure chests (Large Box, Medium Box, and Small Box) in the center of the room. When one chest is opened, the other two will disappear.

  • There is a 33% chance that you will choose a chest that, when opened, will result in completing the bcnm, and your party will receive the treasure pool from the chest.

  • There is a 66% chance that the chest you open will transform into a Mimic, and in order to complete the bcnm, the mimic will have to be defeated.

Strategies

The most common strategy in doing this BCNM is to utilize the roulette method, which is basically just to choose one chest and hope that luck is on your side, since popping the right chest will result in an instant win. If a mimic is spawned, the player will either try escaping using a Warp Cudgel, a Scroll: Instant Warp, or the Warp I spell, or, if using the method of going in on a level one job, just dying.

However, it is possible to beat the BCNM with a small group via killing the mimic spawned if the "lucky" chest isn't opened. However, this often requires planning and preparation ahead of time to win, as the group must go in with every intention of defeating a mimic should they fail to open the "lucky" chest.

Red Mage and Ninja method

A simple, straightforward method, though easily the longest one used, the Ninja will fight the mimic while the Red Mage cures and buffs the Ninja, while helping to enfeeble the mimic. The mimic's Death Trap ability as well as its Draw-in effect will often result in the Red Mage being hit a few times, so it is advised to keep Stoneskin, Blink, and Phalanx up as much as possible to survive.

Black Mage method

This method basically culminates a full contingent of Black Mages casting the Freeze Ancient Magic on the mimic soon after it spawns.

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tried for rogue's ring
# May 20 2014 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Had Shattering Stars-THF coming up and was going for a 'steal' victory. So thought I'd finally use some seals in attempt to get a Rogue's Ring. Went 1/1 on medium box (didn't check day or moon) and got Medicine Ring (which I'm excited to use soon) and scroll of Freeze (which I believe an NPC sells cheap :S); probably got some gil too, I don't remember/didn't pay attention. So didn't get the Rogue's Ring but managed to steal from Maat on my 7th try anyhow with AF gear and other +steal equipment. Fun/neat BCNM.
Win!
# Jul 06 2009 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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First post!

On topic...
Just did this and won. 1/1
I got a Minstrel's Ring and a Coral Fragment. The ring is worth 600k on Phoenix!
And since i'm dirt poor, (the maximum i have ever had is 80k >.<) this will make me a very happy taru! :)

Done on Iceday, Waning Gibbous (67%) not sure if it makes any difference though...

I'll be trying it again now since i have 70 more seals, and i reccomend this to anyone looking for a quick way to make cash.

Good Luck! ^^
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NIN + RDM
# Jun 22 2009 at 10:56 PM Rating: Decent
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So I did this today expecting to pick the wrong box. Was planning on duoing it RDM and NIN. So we buffed and all that good stuff then I ran in and attacked the Small Box. It turned into a Mimic and I began the fight. We got it down to 7% and died. Here are some of the problems that we had I am telling them in hopes that someone that tries this will be better prepared.

1) Make sure, and I mean make sure you have all tools for Jubaku, Kurayami and Hojo. These will save your life.
2) It doesnt not have to be all lvl 50 gear but you are going to want some type of accuracy gear that is level 50 or less because i had my full 75 gear on with sushi and I couldnt hit it to save my life.
3) Make sure the RDM hastes the NIN.
4) Make sure the RDM keeps stoneskin up at all times and has Signet so that he or she can rest because they will be poisoned almost the whole time.
5) Rdm/whm is ok but I suggest Rdm/blm to make sure debuffs land.
6) Expect the fight to be long, get ready to be on top of your game when it comes to shadow tanking.
7) This may have just been bad luck for us, but when we got the box to under 10% he started to spam his stun move. I may be something that comes along with his Draw-In when the RDM has pulled hate I am not quite sure.
8) The aoe stun will not take shadows or do damage but it can be devastating as it is a wee bit longer than your average stun.
9) If possible load up on evasion, giving that you bring the Kurayami tools, with evasion gear he will have a very hard time hitting you.

Side note: If you try this with better gear than I did and still find that you cannot hit the Mimic, I suggest bringing the tools for the Elemental Ni spells. You may be able to spam them like on the Under Observation BCNM in order to do better damage (I haven't tried it yet so don't hold it against me if it doesnt work well, all i know is that if you have done UO you know that those spells will do some damage)

Thanks I hope this helps someone.
Unlucky or something I don't know?
# Jun 14 2009 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah so I had a huge stock of beastman's seals gathering dust on me, because I kind of have a rather decent amount of gil on me already from everything else I do, so I kind of didn't care to bother using them until now.

So as I didn't really care to organize anything or share the loots for that matter I decided the best option for me would be to do Treasure and Tribulation's BCNM and so I did.

First of all I came up with this tactic; choosing the very same chest on every of my 12 runs. Because if it's really 1/3 or 33% chance to pick the right chest, I should be able to get about 4 chests right, give or take, it varies I know, but you get the point.

I decided to go for the large chest, size does matter you know, but after 8 warp scrolls and unsuccessful runs later, I began to wonder, is this really a 33% chance on the right chest, or is there actually some mechanic that we (or I) do not know of, because after 4 more runs and tries on the large chest for just some comedy factor, I was at 12 unsuccessful runs.

So, is this pure lack of luck? Or would it actually be possible, that if it's not on the chest x on the first try, it won't be there on the second, but it's somewhere else and will change once it's discovered?

Also these runs of mine were done in a really short period of time, take orb -> book warp to home nation -> op warp to saruta -> run to balga's dais -> do bcnm -> warp -> repeat, one try won't take long.

Anyone can think anything they want about this, but I personally think that 0/12 on the same chest indicates that there's something else than just "random one of the chests is the treasure one".
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sorc ring
# Mar 27 2009 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
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1/1 sorc ring today on the large box!!
Mimic Sleepable?
# Mar 02 2009 at 5:46 AM Rating: Decent
Can the mimic be ES sleep-ed?
my chest luck
# Dec 20 2008 at 10:16 PM Rating: Good
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ive tried everyway possible to solo the mimic,not a chance at winning with that draw in move but im 4/12 on it,seems only time i get a chest with items if i pick the small chest,all my loses have been on the big chest,everyonce in awhile i pick the middle chect and got items once from it,basicly its all luck really but try the small chest,i honestly think you're chances are better but like i said its all luck,never hurts to give it a try,i go now thf,nin,if i pop a mimic i just pop my 2 hour with ichi up and use a warp scroll or cudgel and im out only 50 seals and not one exp point
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Whm solo?
# Jul 24 2008 at 8:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Can a whm(lvl 50) solo this? I would really really really love to try this..
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Whm solo?
# Jul 24 2008 at 9:35 AM Rating: Good
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Any job can solo this really, but if u pop Mimic its unlikely u can solo
Whm solo?
# Jul 24 2008 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
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lol, yeah, i just found that out not too long ago XD.
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impressions of this BCNM
# Jul 14 2008 at 8:52 PM Rating: Good
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ever since I accumulated 50 seals in my ubern00b days, I've been attracted to the quick payoff potential of this BCNM. After 6 runs, I've compiled the following list...

Attempt 1 (disregarded moonphase) small box: Mimic
Attempt 2 (disregarded moonphase) med. box: ~1000 gil, Shinobi Ring, Wyvern Scales
Attempt 3 (disregarded moonphase) large box: Mimic
Attempt 4 (disregarded moonphase) small box: ~1000 gil, Ronin Ring, Platinum Ore
Attempt 5 (disregarded moonphase) small box: Mimic
Attempt 6 (disregarded moonphase) large box: ~1000 gil, Mythril Ingot, Sorcerer's Ring (!!!)

After the obligatory "z0mg! gilz!" reaction on my 6th run, I checked the day/moonphase and saw it was a 95% full moon on Firesday. Make of this information and the combined payoff of 1,818,000 gil for 300 seals what you will.

Additionally, as a capitulation to lady luck, thanks to Kayna for suggest (blindly) #3 when I couldn't decide which box to pick ^^

Edited, Jul 15th 2008 12:53am by Beltenebros
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0 / 6
# Jun 18 2008 at 9:20 AM Rating: Default
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I heard all the great things about soloing this BCNM.

I have gone 0/6 on this damn thing, I've popped a Mimic every single time. What a waste of 300 seals. I'll never try something like this again.
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0 / 6
# Jul 01 2008 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
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my friend found the secret.....were testing it now, but she got sorc ring and astral in 1 go
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# Aug 12 2008 at 5:34 AM Rating: Decent
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And that secret would be....? lol
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Decent gil
# May 31 2008 at 7:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Since I restarted FFXI this past March, I have been doing this BCNM and only this to make gil as luck has been on my side more times than not. Good game of Russian Roulette, let me tell ya..

I did two runs today just on my ninja (35). The first one, chose the Large Box and got owned, had to Mijin Gakure. Second run, chose the Medium Box and won.

The win was on a Windsday - Waxing Gibbous (83%) and the items that dropped were: Astral Ring, Gold Ignot, Quake scroll and a Demon Horn. Pretty decent pickup for 45 seconds of "work" :)
Finished BC
# May 10 2008 at 8:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Just did this BC like 10 seconds ago, I went in as 42nin/21dnc doing the basic mijin gakure method. I could not decide which chest to chose so i simply targeted each chest then did a /random and the highest number will be the chest i chose. The highest was the large chest and it was the right one, got crap drops though only Shinobi ring and Darksteel ore. Good luck to all those who try it!
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# Apr 07 2008 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm 1/3 now and i want to keep trying but i only have 13 Beastmen seals left. I tried twice with my main char and went 0/2. Went with my backup char and went 1/1. Got a Conjurer's Ring and an Astral Ring. I'm still trying to figure out why astrals costs so much still on Cait Sith.
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Lucky
# Apr 02 2008 at 7:56 AM Rating: Decent
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2/2 On this, first time I picked the middle chest and got the drake ring and quake spell... 2nd time I picked the large chestand I got Regen III and... Sorcerer's ring. :) I will be doing this again this weekend.
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Horde Lullaby
# Mar 24 2008 at 10:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't know if this is just the one thing in the game I get lucky with, but I've done this bcnm 8 times and never lost. I do two runs every time I get a stack of seals.

I go in as brd/blm (for a free warp home) and Horde Lullaby the crates. First time I go in I always target the middle crate with the spell. This gives me the win, but the treasure doesn't spawn in the middle crate. It spawns from the small (Left) crate for some reason I do not know. Second time I go in I target the large (Right) crate, and the treasure spawns from the middle crate.

I've never waited and saved enough seals to do 3 runs. I always complete both runs on the same in-game day. And the moon is always @less then 10%. Astral rings have dropped 6/8 times, but I haven't gotten lucky enough to get the Sorcerer's Ring I need for my blm yet. I probably should spend the money from the astrals on it but I'm stubborn.

P.S. - Don't do BCNMs on random moon phases. If you want the good stuff, go on a new moon. It helps. I promise.

Edited, Mar 24th 2008 2:28pm by RemoraRosalie
Horde Lullaby
# Apr 16 2008 at 6:32 PM Rating: Decent
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thanks for the heads up on the new moon went 2/3, got decent stuff... pretty much only thing worth more than 20k was astral. btw I so can see the 2/3 chance of picking the right chest having merit due to the fact u only fight one mimic which i think is what he/she was getting at, seemed like that to me even though i'm 3/8 on win
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I hate this BCNM
# Feb 06 2008 at 9:00 AM Rating: Default
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Well, Ive been saving up seals for about 6 months now and have about 10 stacks sitting in my storage so I decided to solo these and hope for the best with my nin 2 hour. Well, i guessed wrong and waited 2 hours. did it again, but in that two hours I decided to be smart and sub blm. I ended up being 37 NIN/18 BLM. All I do now is buff up shadows and if i guess wrong warp back to whitegate. So easy, except the ratio is horrible. I dont think there are two right chests because now im 3/8 with one astral and other stuff. Its an easy way to do it if you get bored so I hope this helps. Think I did about 4-5 runs in less than an hour. Too bad it costs 50 seals and the percentage of guessing right is horrible.
I hate this BCNM
# Feb 06 2008 at 10:19 AM Rating: Good
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"... I dont think there are two right chests because now im 3/8 with one astral and other stuff."

Of course not, if you'd bothered actually reading the walkthru, it clearly states: "Once there, you will be confronted with three treasure boxes (large, medium and small). One of these is legitimate and rewards you with instand treasure. The other two are mimics and will attack you."
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I hate this BCNM
# Feb 06 2008 at 6:23 PM Rating: Default
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Why would I read some stupid walkthrough... its pick a box and hope for the best. And I was talking about narayu Scholar's post about three or four posts down. He or she said it was a 2/3 chance for goods.... thats what I was talking about.
I hate this BCNM
# Feb 07 2008 at 11:04 AM Rating: Good
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"Why would I read some stupid walkthrough..."

Is there really a need to reconfirm your ingnorance ?
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tried it out
# Jan 25 2008 at 5:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Did it solo cuz I was bored a few days ago, was unlucky enough to get mimic instead of straight treasure 0/1
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lovely gil
# Jan 24 2008 at 2:32 PM Rating: Default
did a couple days ago, got sorcerer's ring and and an Astral. Had to sell the Astral before I had enough money to put the Sorcerer's up in ah.. got over 2.3mil~ ^^
Easy cash!!!
# Jan 18 2008 at 12:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok if you have 50 seals laying around and haven't done this before I'd say give it a shot.

I stumbled upon this BCNM looking for ones I could solo with my newly lvld smn, at first I doubted it but I said what the hell I'm bored and I need money. Grab the orb, choco/walk to the BCNM and crossed my fingers!

Get in, Blink myself with Garuda and take carby out. Had finger ready on warp scroll macro, ran to small chest and checked it... others disappeared! I opened it and two drops:

Sorceror's Ring
Petrified Log

I danced till morning! Sells for 800k on Garuda atm.

Good luck.

Edited, Jan 18th 2008 3:43am by Mitsukosan
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The scary truth to this BC.
# Dec 09 2007 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
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There is only one possible mimic box, the other two are actually wins; So your chances are actually 2/3 instead of 1/3; It's not a matter of picking the correct chest as it's a matter of not picking the incorrect one. Sort of a glass half full instead of half empty. Unfortunetly; The drops assigned to each box are what is going to be random. Good luck!
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The scary truth to this BC.
# Feb 06 2008 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Where is your proof for this. Do you work for SE or something. I doubt there are two prize boxes or more people would flood the AH with these drops. Im now 3/8 on this, and i must say its totally random and total luck.
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# Nov 20 2007 at 1:07 AM Rating: Decent
just did this for the first time i decided to go with the middle box for no reason and got a soldiers ring worth 1k and an astral ring worth 300k. easy 301,000gil for 1 minute and 40 secs...
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# Nov 23 2007 at 1:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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All the repeated theories about it being one of the three chests with in a day is definately disproved. Went on Darksday, reraised, entered, I got small chest, fail, next person went in got middle chest on their orb, fail, next person got large chest on their orb, fail. All within the same darksday, and in party, and noone else entering the fight in between us the whole time as we had a watchout.

Back to the true way that SE does pretty much everything in this game.... it's not clickin your heals three times while keeping one eye closed and one opened as you /kneel to the bcnm choosing the chests in order and facing southeast as you secretly chant to the goddess of Altana..... It's simply random.


EDIT: didn't mean to make this a direct reply to the poster above mine. Wuz posting in general.

Edited, Nov 23rd 2007 1:42pm by xXxNaobixXx
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my first try at this!
# Aug 23 2007 at 2:18 AM Rating: Decent
well 15k to my name and bored so i decide to look up this bcnm. i heard bout this a while back from a friend. Went as rdm/blm and buffed up like i was ready to fight a mimic to the death!

i had already made up my mind bout choosing the middle one before even entering the battle. As i walk up to the 3 boxes i had a slight debate in my head about choosing the boxes but decided to stay with the middle one(medium box), hit attack and it auto-disengaged me and the other 2 disappeared.

so i'm staring at the armour crate and i quickly open it. Treasure drops and i get "some crappy latent effect ring and cheap ore". Warp back to AH check price of mythil ore and sorcerer's ring and sent an "OMG" /tell to first friend i spotted on friend's list.

obtained 1,522 gil, sorcerer's ring(2M~), mythril ore(1k~).
-light day 5?% ??? - forgot to check time and phase
-dark day 55% 1st q. moon - was day after i did bcnm
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hmmm...
# Aug 10 2007 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Where is a good spot to farm seals for this my main is 56 sam. Anyway tried this twice today picked medium both times, failure. First time I got stuck in change taget because I thought it was a open thing instead of attack. Then I paniced before I could us nin 2hr. 2nd time I Ichied then picked and had plenty of time to 2hr.
Just won
# Aug 09 2007 at 10:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Was kinda bored and about to log and i desided to go try this,neva done it b4 but always wanted to cause being a 75blm Sorc ring is kinda sexii(cost 1mil on bismarck server)and buyin it is outta the question.Anyhow i traded the orb went and closed my eyes and picked a box. . . *Bam* Astral ring and the smn ring,no blm ring ;; o well ill try it again soon.
luck and skill
# Aug 06 2007 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Did this 6 times with on a full moon. Just 4 of us went, 2 people with Orbs and 2 people (including myself) with nothing better to do than watch them die at the incorrect chest. Anyways, pty was myself, NIN/RDM (Irocky), PLD/WAR (Liliith), SMN/WHM (Shorttater), SMN/WHM (Killerofall).

decided to let the PLD open the box, and we picked Medium Box, and got it correct 4 times with no fight at all. got 3 Astrals, Drake Ring, Medicine Ring, and Darksteel Ore. Then we got more orbs and came back. Picked Medium box again (why not?) and had to fight the Mimic, got it down to 75% before PLD wiped. 1 of the SMN sicked carby on it while the other cured himself and the other SMN from the AoE/Poison. Me as NIN/RDM tanked fine with Elemental Ni spells hitting for 80 dmg each, and a Yag drink to keep mp up as I self cured. Won the fight with the only one left alive being the NIN and ~100hp left before falling dead from poison lol.

Last run we did we got picked Large Box, and agian, Mimic. Same scenario, PLD died @75% both SMNs ran outta MP and died from poison while I solo'd, popping poison pots, and MP drinks while i spammed Elemental Ni's. Killed it with ~20 mins left on the clock.

6 runs, gave us 2 fights, and 4 astral rings on Full Moon with 2 SMN, 1 PLD, and 1 NIN. We eached walked away with an astral ring and I got to brag how I killed the T&T Mimic solo :P

Im fairly sure the Mimics can be defeated alone with a NIN/RDM with Jack-o-Lantern (food), INT and EVA gear, all there spells + tools, HP/MP drinks, and either poison pots or antidotes. I also have max EVA merits tho :X

Edited, Aug 6th 2007 5:44pm by iRocky
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