Dismemberment Brigade  

this was so old , and I'm drunk

Edited, Sep 18th 2008 1:34pm by Xenophane

Great bcnm if assualt earrings and axe are inflated on your server.(earrings 2m on leviathan, axe 1m).

Terrible one if you're just relying on spectacles to drop. You might get a pair in six runs...you might not.

Me, a couple LS buddies, and a couple pickup guys did this 5 times today. We went 4/5 (the one time we died was because the whm didnt heal the blm fast enough after all the mobs woke up the first time). Got 1 assault earing, 2 flutes, and 3 gold ingots... thats it. In total its hardly 3 mil on bahamut.

Dunno what you guys did differently to get the specs and multiple assaults, etc, but it didnt happen for us.

By the way, our setup was WHM, BLM, RDM, PLD, SAM, MNK. Basically follow strat others have posted (sleepga 2, and kill one by one). Only issues is at the mass wakeup when they all rush blm. Try and have him sub whm and keep stoneskin up, so he can get another sleepga 2 off. Good luck.

Just curious, can 4 Black Mages, a Bard and a Warrior manaburn this thing effectivly.

Couple of friend plan to manaburn it to get earring for the WAR. Just wondering if it will work or will I end up losing 60 seals.

we won 4 times last nighht and all we got was an earring and an axe wtf 2 of the runs were complete sh*t dtops, and we lost on my run 2nd to last one, even though we owned it every time np, the blm orc decided to spam aoe on my run so we lost.

Just did this one last night, five times. Pty setup was PLD, DRK, WAR, BLM, WHM, RDM. We were 4/5 only losing on the first one, which was actually helpful to give us a strategy. We beat our record every single time, which was pretty cool ^^ Got the time down to 16min and 49sec.

After your blm goes in and uses Sleepga II, I suggest the order of BLM>WAR>PLD>DRK>RNG>MNK. It goes surprisingly quick, and no chance of a quick death,unless something goes horribly wrong. The best thing to do, IMO, is for the PLD to tank one orc at a time, and everyone concentrate on the one. If some wake, and you start trying to voke/pull them off the BLM, you'll most likely have problems. Just let the BLM do their thing, and you should be victorious! :D

We got specs after the 2nd battle, and got three earrings, and two of those BST axes, which are actually worth 400k on Ramuh O.O
GL with this one, its easy, with intelligent people.

Spectales are 4 mil on my server now o.O Probably doing this soon.

We did this 5 times last night. BLM Sleepga 2 wouldn't stick worth a damn and so we lost 4 of the fights. We were pretty upset at this time but found a BRD to come out in place of one of our members, and we then threw in the last orb and went in. Got the specs.

Possible we just got super lucky, or maybe they just felt sorry for us.

Did this eight times today and no specs. Gimmick bcnm. A waste my time and seals. Joke! Better off running the 40s and getting Ni and Erase.

we did this 6 times last night with whm, pld, rng, blm, blm, rdm. Having 2 blms was very helpful in keeping everything slept, especially sicne both had sleepga2. First time we went in, rdm didnt silence the blm and well, we died pretty fast. From there on, it was all very smooth. The 4th fight, the rng dced twice on us, and that caused us to run out of time at the end, but we were close. THe pld orc only had like 20% health left and one blm still had manafront ready, but he said he forgot. In total, we all made about 150k from the 4 wins. 2 assault earrings, a few sarga bows, the axe, the instrument thing, few gold and darksteel ingots and many, various types of jewels. Thanks to everyone who posted strategies on this forum, was very helpful^^

First off, thanks to all the previous posters for their input, I've tried to rate all of you guys up. I took a lot of the advice and used it while fighting this BCNM this weekend.

After about three hours and four tries, we were 3/4. No specs, one assault earring. Our PT setup was PLD, DRG, MNK (me), RDM, BLM, WHM.

Our strategy was for the blm to enter at casting range and Sleepga II all of them. In reading other threads, I noticed that some blms were having trouble getting all of them to sleep. Ours didn't seem to have a problem, but I'll wager he had his enfeebling skill capped.

After they were knocked out, the pld, drg, whm and I rushed in to kill Keeneyed . The blm and rdm were on sleep duty and kept the other mobs off us while we killed in order.

The biggest challenge is keeping the mobs off the killing team once you kill the first four. After that, there are only two left and you can sleep the survivors while the mages rest. I found that we had to do this every fight, because MP became an issue. After about the fourth mob killed, our whm was out of MP and need to rest.

So that meant the first four mobs were incredibly stressful as we hit them with everything and I shouted out who to kill next.

Our first try failed. The blm got incredible hate after the initiall Sleepga II wore off. Once they woke up, they pursued him and killed him before we could peel them off. We solved this problem by having the mellees voke sleeping mobs so they'd go after us first (as suggested by another post).

But even on that first try, we got through the blm and the ranger.

Second try was smoother. I believe our drg died, but he was raised in mid battle, rested, and re-joined. Our biggest issue here was time. The fight has a 30 minute limit. After we had killed and rested and finished them off, we clocked in at 28:30.

Third fight was pretty uneventful. No deaths. Cut our time down to 25:00ish, I think.

The fourth try got interesting after our blm was killed in the early part of the battle. But the whm got him up, and the blm rested on the perimeter while we worked through the mobs. Mana became an issue, so after three kills, we slept the others while the whm rested. Another important tactic with the warrior and monk was to be aware when they hit their 2 hrs (was pretty obvious). We disengaged and slept them until it wore off.

I can't stress enough how important the mages were to our sucesses. Our blm and rdm were constantly chasing down stray mobs who had woken up and were trying to eat us. Many times a timely sleep saved the whole fight.

Very very enjoyable time, especially watching the group perform as a team. I even screwed up and subbed thief, but our drg was a great trick partner and I think I only got him killed that once, by tricking off him

No specs, but we got assault earring and some other gems and gold ingots.


EDIT - Wow, rated down for sharing my experience with this BCNM? Gee, thanks!

Edited, Sat Feb 5 18:43:05 2005

well, since I can't get on cause server is busy (stupid maintenance :/) figured I'd post my experience here. well, having had some miserable experiences in the past with bcnm40, I was overly cautious on this one. My party setup was ninja/warrior (me), rng/nin, thf/nin, blm x 2, and a rdm. Brought along 2 blms with sleepga II just in case... well, we did it 6 times and only lost once. The reason we lost was cause I read previous posts where it says tank goes in and gets the blms attention then blm sleepga II... well, that was a horrible idea. Keeneyed (blm orc) did some aga spell (firaga3 I think) that put a serious hurting on everyone, next thing you know there are bodies laying everywhere and they weren't orcs :/ no biggie, lesson learned. Next fight, we had blm go up the ramp and get only as close as he needed to elemental seal / sleepga II. all the orcs were asleep. me, the ranger and thf charge up to the blm orc and start wacking away, at the same time rdm cast silence. keeneyed fell pretty fast then moved on in the suggested kill order... now, the reason for 2 blms... well, for one, the PLD orc resists sleep like crazy, so having sleep II to back that up is helpful, plus the orcs start getting spread out over course of the fight. so having two people able to sleepga II was nice. the rdms primary job was to heal when necessary, and kite any sleep resistors with gravity. now, blms primary purpose was taking turn to sleep mobs and emergency heal, perhaps they coulda got into doing more dmg, but we were just playing it safe rather than trying to set the time record. worked like a charm though, we won the next five battles and I barely took a scratch... oh, one more note, if you take a ninja tank (one that can properly time the utsusemi: ichi cast) then healing is not very taxing at all, however, when the one called Longarmed does hundred fists, everyone disengage and/or turn away so blm can sleep him. And when pld does his 2hr, he's the last mob, so blms can just spam away on nukes. Super easy bcnm with this method, average finish time was 20 minutes though, some of you may be in a bigger hurry than that... but biggest problem... not one spectacles /cry... total loot, only about 66k per person from all 5 wins combined (alexander server)... so... if you don't get the specs, this bcnm totally blows money wise... guess that's why it's so easy :/

ok ive done this bcnm b4 so i decide to organize 1 we get a RNG, PLD, DRK, BLM, WHM, RDM, no bard wich was wierd but it worked we buffed got to ledge and i said ok elemental seal sleepga 2 our blm lvl 75 60capped says um i dont have sleepga 2 at that point i lose it i was about to give up but we decided to try anyway blm e/s sleepga and bam they all asleep im like sweet we killed in order suggested
1 BlM KEENEYED back row on left
2 RNG MINDSEYED
3 DARK UNDEFEATABLE
4 WAR ARMSMASTER
5 MONK LONGARMED
6 PLD INVULNERABLE
blm 2nd sleepga 1 yuk pld resisted so he suggested we kill pld 2nd we did and almost died we used alot of our potons vile elixer juices hp and mp and icuras wings lol rdm was back up sleeper blm tryed his best we played our best watched for there 2hrs and usually binded them with rng or grav with rdm or sleep with blm when they 2hrd was extremly hard without sleepga 2 but we won and got specs right off the bat 2.3mil lakshmi aka price jacked server other 4 fights we alot easier we had barely and juices ect so we buckled down and even with sleepga 1 we pulled off 5 wins 1 loss had great pt
me as pld i lost alot of hate with drk and rng next time id suggest my drk sub thf for sata and let rng steal hate b4 renki with barrage ect and for blm to get sleepga 2 was alot of fun and ended up with 498k split each ps watch hate while fighting rng mob he eagle eye shots pld for 200ish my drk did guillotine stole hate and bam rng eagle eye shot him for 900 splat ^^ and keep to the kill order pld 2nd made it alot harder

Tried this yesterday with THF RDM BRD BLM PLD RNG and failed fairly quickly. Our main reason for failing was that after the initial sleep the orcs would scatter (war/pld/drk/mnk moving in at different paces for some reason, and rng staying back.) I can see how this fight would be easy as others described if we had anticipated the orcs seperating out of sleepga2/horde lullaby range. We did manage to get thru the BLM orc easily at least. RDM with capped enfeebling + elemental seal + silence + dark staff= one very silent orc^^

This BCNM is way too easy... You cant lose this fight unless one of you die... I had a WHM/BLM BLM/WHM BLM/RDM RDM/BLM PlD/WAR DRG/WAR, Its a pretty safe setup since you got 2 BLM and 1 RDM to backup for Sleep... Beat this like 16 times with only 2 spectacles drops out of all that fight...

The PLD orc is such a pain in the ass when his sleep wears off fast... All the BLM have to do is put Stoneskin, Blink on so when the orcs sleep come off they can take some hits and do Sleepga II again... Aspir is so much useful in this BCNM the BLM in my pt didn't had to rest for mp...

Beat this 5/6 times yesterday very eaily.

Setup was SAM/WAR, RNG/NIN, PLD/WAR, BLM/RDM, BRD/WHM, BRD/WHM. Basically we had one bard just use Paeons and the other use Ballads and of course Lullibys.

Used the same order of fighting mobs as below, blm, rng, drk, war, mnk, pld. You can really do the war, mnk, and drk in any order since they're very similar.

After buffing, I elemental seal Silenced the BLM while the bards grouped and slept the rest, then I stacked Sleepga 2 on top of lulliby. This usually kept them asleep long enough to kill one mob. As soon as they wake up, bards re-apply lulliby and I re-sleep them.

I was able to main heal with no real problems with only Cure 3. Just using Ballads and 2 yagudo drinks per fight. Melees were using Persikos au Lait for hp regen.

Also I should mention that the mobs very rarely resisted anything. They have high defense but we never had problems with Sleep or Silence sticking.

The blm mob is very easy. Just keep it silenced. If silence slips and it starts casting, use Stun or Shield Bash then silence again. Get Aspir in at least once to conserve MP. Ranger mob is also cake. I never noticed when Eagle-Eye went off, it did about as much damage as a critical hit. DRK is next, once again try to Aspir a few times to keep MP up. Keep it silenced and Stun/Shield BAsh if it starts casting. WAR and MNK are pretty much the same. As soon as they use 2hour, Put them to sleep and wait it out and rest for MP. Once they're dead, the paladin is a joke, hits about as hard as a real pld. Aspir-able and needs silenced so it won't heal or buff itself. For Invincible you can either Sleep it or just nuke it. Invincible mobs still take magic damage.

A few more notes: Don't even think about using DOT spells. Have Finale ready because they do buff each other. Deck out your enfeebling skill for blm and CHR for brd. Brds need Light staves and blm needs dark staff to ensure the mobs stay asleep. Mary's Horn not required. Our sam was decked out and our rng was using Silver/Spartan bullets.

We got 1 pair of 1.5 mil spectacles and about 600,000 gil in other drops. ~340k each, not too bad for never having done it before.

Ok, since there seems to be a flaming absence of exactly wtf to do on this one here goes. First thing, do NOT...i'll say it again, do NOT treat this as BCNM 40, or you'll have the same chance to closely examine the ground and re-think your strategy as my team did. My team set up was thus, PLD, DRK, RNG, BLM, WHM, BRD. Ithenas, Tilk, Warick, Seta, Valesken, and Zephonim (they asked that their names be mentioned).

Mary's horn, Sleep2 and Sleepga 2 are a must for this, as these orc's don't like to group very well and the brd has a hard time getting all of them w/ lullaby on the first shot.

Do you normaly pre-fight buff's, protect, shell, food, etc, etc. Then go up to the bridge where you can see the Orc's, the PLD and WHM should target the one in the back left corner, Keeneyed Aufwuf. When the PLD runs in the front row will bunch, that bunch will be the brd's job, he will keep them asleep for the duration of the battle. The back row are the problem children, as they are casters they don't want to come join the melee fun around the brd, this is where sleepga 2 comes into play, the blm will control the sleep on the back row. As you run in the PLD needs to voke Keeneyed Aufwuf, he's a blm so you'll want the WHM on the PLD's heels to cast silence on him. He'll use Manafont when he's down to around three fourths of his HP, no big deal, drop him and get ready for your next target.

Next on the list is Mind's-eyed Klugwug, a rng, your blm can switch over to sleep 2 as there is only 1 orc on the back row. Mind's-eyed Klugwug will use Eagle Eye Shot around half HP, no biggy it hit me for 200~300 each time, drop the beast, have the melee med MP if they need, and get ready for your next. *note* the whm should be healing MP whenever he/she isn't healing the tank, this could even mean while the melee are fighting an orc.

Next is Undefeatable Sappdapp, a drk, he'll cast a few tier 2 spells but nothin really worth mentioning, he'll use Blood Weapon at about half HP, but he only hit's for 30~50 per shot, so have him debuffed w/ paralyze slow and blind or flash.

Now for one of the power houses of this group, Armsmaster Dekbuk, the war, he has alot of HP and decent defence. He'll use Mighty Strike at around half HP, now depending on your mages MP situation you can do one of 2 things. 1.) Debuff the crap out of him, paralyze, slow, blind, stun, the whole nine yards. Or you can have everybody disengage and sleep him until it wears off, like almost every 2 hour it only lasts 30 seconds. Kill this guy and move on to power house number two.

Longarmed Gottditt, the mnk. He did 10~20 per fist on me, and he also uses hundo fists at half HP, as before you have two options, debuff the living daylights out of him or sleep him till it wears off. Drop this guy and victory is almost at hand.

Invulnerable Mazzgozz will be your last target, he's a PLD and he will do things most pld's do. What i mean by that is he will die slow and us invincible in the process. He'll 2 hour at half HP like most the others, have your blm keep nuking to a minimum before he uses his 2 hour, afterward tell him/her to cut loose. Drop the last guy before the 30 minutes are up and congratulations, you've won BCNM 60 and maybe made some decent cash along the way. This is really fun, all my PT had a blast, even on the first one when we got more closely acquainted with the ground. I hope this helps you guys.




Edited, Sun Aug 8 02:38:22 2004

We did it today for 5 Times. 5 Wins.

2 Spectacles, 3 assault earrings.

Config was Brd Whm Blm Drk Thf and Pld.

Easy as hell to win this battle, it only takes some time to win, around 20 mins every battle.

Sleepga 2, Sleep 2, Foe Lullaby and Horde Lullaby Ownz.

This fight is so much fun...

We did it 6 times tonight, and given we had no clue hwat ot expect (and I had no Mary's Horn/BLM had no sleepga 2) we only won 2 of the fghts, but managed to get 1,800,000 gil worth of items... (Ya, got the spectacles)...

For this fight we had Blm/Brd/Whm/Pld/Drk/Sam... the BLM and I kited the mobs the whole fight and slept them... We killed them as Blm ~> Rng ~> Drk ~> War ~> Mnk ~> Pld... it's a blast so go fight it!