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Borghertz's Sneaky Hands  

Submitted by:Thingol
Realm:Jeuno
Start Area: Upper Jeuno
Start NPC:Guslam (H - 8)
Type:Artifact
Prerequisites:The Tenshodo Showdown - THF AF1
Related Areas:Castle Zvahl Baileys
Davoi
Monastic Cavern
Port Jeuno
Upper Jeuno
Related Mobs:Dark Spark
Yin Pocanakhu
Mission:2 - 0
Min Level:50
Max Level:75
Rating
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Items Required:Davoi Coffer Key
Old Gauntlets
Shadow Flames
Items Granted:Rogue's Armlets
This Quest is Repeatable
Last Updated: Tue Dec 21 14:57:40 2004

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Summary

Gauntlets wrought by Borghertz, the legendary craftsman, lie hidden somewhere in Vana'diel.

Walkthrough

To start this quest, you must have completed the quest The Tenshodo Showdown - THF AF1 and activated Thick as Thieves - THF AF2.

First, talk to the galka named Guslam in the Durable Shields Shop in Upper Jeuno. He will tell you about a pair of old gauntlets, made by the legendary craftsman Borghertz, which he heard about somewhere in Monastic Cavern.

Head to Monastic Cavern, which is located at H-11 on the Davoi map. You must find an open a coffer. To do this, you can either pick the lock on a coffer (being a thief), or you can open the coffer with a Davoi coffer key. The keys are dropped in Davoi and Monastic Cavern by Orcish Farkillers, Orcish Dreadnoughts, Orcish Champions and Orcish Dragoons.

Next, head into Monastic Cavern to find a treasure coffer. The coffers appear at I-7, H-7, H-8, G-8 and H-9. Trade your key to the coffer to receive the key item Some old gauntlets.

Take the old gauntlets back to Guslam in Upper Jeuno. He says he lacks the skill to fix them.

Then go to Lower Jeuno, and head to the Tenshodo hideout inside Neptune's Spire. Talk to a mithra named Yin Pocanakhu, who is near the counter. She will offer you an old toolbox that she somehow acquired for 1000 gil. Pay her and she will tell you that she left it in front of the Duty-Free Shop in Port Jeuno.

Go to Port Jeuno and find the old toolbox. Examine the ??? for a cutscene with Borghertz, who asks for Shadow Flames from Castle Zvahl Baileys.

Head to Castle Zvahl Bailey, located on the west edge of Xarbacard. At F-8 in Zvahl Baileys, there will be four torches. Clear the demons in this area, then examine a torch by the iron gate. A notorious monster named Dark Spark will appear. Defeat Dark Spark and examine the torch again to receive the Shadow Flames.

Finally, return to Port Jeuno and re-examine the toolbox to receive another cutscene and your Rogue's armlets.

Quest Series

This quest is part of the thief Artifact Gear quest series:

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rogue's vest still attainable?
# May 07 2014 at 7:24 PM Rating: Decent
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rogue's vest still attainable from zvahl coffer after turning in borghertz's sneaky hands?

Edited, May 10th 2014 3:30pm by ganglioside

Edited, May 10th 2014 3:30pm by ganglioside
mimic's ><
# Oct 12 2008 at 7:03 PM Rating: Decent
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ok first try went in with a ls friend 74thf who offered to help me, while using tonko and following him as he was dcing and more or less warping to each end of the caverns no sign of a coffer, but he did tell me where not alone,
after he gracefully dc'ed 3 times i can understand why he didnt come back but then i managed to find a coffer used 5 skelly keys to pop a mimic used my newly made macro this for thfs who havent got it yet just in case i called it Code/Red

/ja "Perfect dodge" <me>
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then i came back the same day after LS PTY, found a coffer within 5 minutes or so this time using 4 keys to pop Key item Some old gauntlets,

later that night not so much later so to speak 2 LS members offered me the chance to do Dark Spark with me which obviosly couldent refuse ^^ THF75 and RDM75 bassicly Dark Spark got OWNED
o.o
# Jan 09 2007 at 8:49 AM Rating: Decent
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This was pretty simple, but funny.
I was asking my thf75 friend about it and he told me to buy some thief's tools. I had... roughly 3k. >.> So I bought one and hoped to god it would work. Went to the cavern, found the chest, failed cast invisible (THF50/RDM25) /healed and asked my friend who was getting ready to help me with G1 to bring me some tools and I would pay him back when my AH **** finished. waiting there roughly 90 minutes and popped it with the second of the 3 he gave me. :P Didn't even cast invis for the second one, all the orcs were looking the other way. ^^ I havn't done the af head yet... it looks too annoying atm. ;.;
AF {help me out} please
# Nov 15 2006 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
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yea, i have borghertz shadowy hands up, and im wondering if i have to complete that before i can get borghertz sneaky hands, cuz ive talked to nanaa mihgo, and just now i went back to guslam, and i didnt get a cutscene or anything... i hope im just messing up cuz right now i really dnt wanna do my DRk af as well><
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# Nov 08 2006 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
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first try no skele key cause they where like 90k a stack and i just bought a scorpion harness. Very quick on the coffer so now its time to see if I can solo dark spark for fun. If not i have a ton of friends that can help. Oh and i used thief tools. like 21k a stack ^^ so im one happy thf at the moment and I just got an invite:) party on people
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# Jul 25 2006 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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So okay my friend is a 52 Thf needs some AF. Now if we go get the coffer my question is after we get it can he change job to 68 pld for the fight? I really don't know if I can tank DS yet (68WAR). Though between me and a pld I don't think we'd even need a mage.
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Thf Scores it Who Kills it
# Aug 14 2006 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, he can change to 68PLD and still pop/kill Dark Spark for his THF gloves. As far as a 68WAR and 68PLD being able to kill it without a mage, you probably can. Dark Spark hits reasonably hard, but his accuracy is a little sad. Be careful, as he casts Bio III and has a tendency to explode when he doesn't get his way.

I think you two could deal enough damage to drop him quickly, and the PLD would be able to heal himself enough to keep you guys alive. I've always brought a mage along, but that has always seemed like overkill, lol.
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# Jul 15 2006 at 4:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok be ready to hate me, no INT or MND or CHR or banana's or sheep's foot or w/e is rumored to have an effect, but found coffer in 2 mins, and popped it on first try with skeleton key.

Wouldnt be so happy but I was 3/3 on first time for gambling with the Goblins for my hat too! :D
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# Jun 08 2006 at 7:11 PM Rating: Decent
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lol walked in, saw it at 2nd pop point, no orcs around, used 7 thief tools, 6 failed then success. woot. going after darkspark in a few hours
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# Jan 19 2006 at 10:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Found the coffer in the third or fourth pop spot I checked after being in Monastic Cavern for about five minutes, got the Old Gauntlets on my first try with Thief's Tools, no aggro from the surrounding orcs. Level 51 Elvaan Thief/Ninja, no INT+ equipment. Yeah, I felt pretty awesome.
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# Dec 15 2005 at 10:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Got to Davoi, found the coffer, waited a minute or so for a nearby Orc to turn around, got the Old Gauntlets with one Living Key, then used a warp scroll to get out of there.

Took less than 10 minutes.
Got it !
# Dec 13 2005 at 6:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Got this morning. Tried last night and couldn't find the Coffer so i went to bed got this morning and checked the spawn points and found it got on second try was wearing Galka RSE and /whm then aggro'd an Orc used hide then zone and used warp :)
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# Nov 10 2005 at 11:31 PM Rating: Default
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used theifs tools, nin sub, no tonko

-found coffer
-drop invis
-trade tool
-pop invis up as fast as possible
-rinse and repeat.

got it 3rd shot with thiefs tools
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# Oct 29 2005 at 3:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yea, just a casual note that no one has seemed to post here. If this is your second AF-Hands quest, you don't need to pay the npc an additional 10k to find the box.

Yea, it sounds stupid and all, but it wasnt posted anywhere. Plus, it made my day (woo).
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# Oct 20 2005 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
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Treasure coffer pop: 20 minutes
Waiting for IT orcs to turn around: 5 minutes
Getting Old Gauntlets on the first try: Priceless

Today was a great day for me. Did LB1, gobbie bag 3 and 4, and got my old gauntlets. Nice. Just when you think the game hates you, it turns a little ray of sunshine on you. :)

Gonna do Darkspark tomorrow!

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RE: Easy as pie!
# Oct 20 2005 at 7:40 AM Rating: Good
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Oh, did this with thiefs tools, no extra intelligence gear, and 62% waxing gibbous.
Getting the AF coffer item....
# Sep 26 2005 at 10:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Alright, my question is this:
Lets say I go (thf) with a friend (blm) who also needs their AF item out of one of these coffers. If I pick a lock, is there a chance the item that comes out could be the one she needs instead? Or will it definately be the item the person that opens it needs?
#Fujisawa, Posted: Aug 31 2005 at 7:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I want to let everyone know that if you have already completed RNG Hand AF you do not need to even get the key or pick the chest because it's the same key item. I just wanted to let everyone know before they go through all that trouble. You do still need to defeat Dark Spark.
RE: Redo No Thanks
# Sep 27 2005 at 12:57 AM Rating: Decent
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this may be true if you don't finish the AF quest for RNG. I have full af for my rng and I do not have the key item nor will with the quest continue.
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# Aug 30 2005 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
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INT?? hum, dont having any gear in int, i got it on my 1st try:) with skeleton key. almost all place i see for key choice: thief tools, im going
with the most expensive key, thats logic. and about logic; i think its more logic thf need DEX rather INT for open coffer no????? no death,gauntlets,AF acquire, i will go everytime with skeleton key
Easy Prey
# Aug 24 2005 at 2:27 PM Rating: Default
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I just did the NM with me(50THF) 57 WHM 75 NIN 64 BLM and 57 THF in was dead in 20 secs lol^^
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# Jun 30 2005 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
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this is a site which i think is the best so far for info and maps for thf af gear

http://www.bvvp.com/gaming/ffxi/thfaf.html

QUOTE "Special thanks to Tils for his excellent AF guide. It was a huge asset when it came time for me to do these quests. More special thanks to the ffxi.allakhazam.com and vnboards.ign.com goers, whose suggestions and information helped refine what you see here."

please rate up if this helps you out thank a million and have fun
Unlucky
# Apr 27 2005 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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I died 5 times today trying to open the **** chest,one weakneed me the other warlock agro me,and the others 3 left mimic appear after i failed more than 4 times trying opening the chest,i used living keys all times and i went with INT49+7,and only i get death,i was hume thf with mi old character and never have this problem,now i dunno what to do,anybody have a suggestion!?,next time i will try with Skeleton keys but now i dunno what's gonna happend.thanks seeya >.<
ya
# Mar 09 2005 at 8:28 AM Rating: Decent
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went into davoi, found the cavern, found my coffer in less than 5 minutes, and picked it on my first tool lol. i was pretty excited till i hit flee n trained every orc
easy
# Mar 03 2005 at 1:49 PM Rating: Default
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this is a pretty easy quest if you got high lvl help. the part that was hardest for me was getting the chest oppened. i failed to pick a lock using Thiefs Tools 4 times, i dont know why i did... im a taru so i have high INT and i had +9 int in gear i bought. but i got lucky at least, no mimic :D
Re: Failure
# Feb 15 2005 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Venace, try buying some +INT gear and equipping it. I've seen rumors that say lock pick is affected by INT. Don't know if it's true, but it worked for me. I failed 4 times one night, the next day bought a +INT hat and some other +INT gear and popped the coffer on my first try.
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# Feb 16 2005 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks alot for the info, I picked up some +INT gear and got it on the 4th pick. I guess the INT gear makes a serious difference. Thanks alot tho.
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# Feb 15 2005 at 12:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Is there something I am doing wrong. I have activated the Quest from Guslam but I have tried picking this coffer and failed everytime. I have burned a stack of thf's tools, a stack of living keys, and 4 skeleton keys(there were no stacks at ah). I cancel the invis and fail everytime on the pick I am a 51 thf and wondering if I am doing anything wrong or do I just have terrible luck. . . or should i just bite the bullet and get a pt together to get the key?
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# Feb 03 2005 at 5:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Finally hit level 50 tonight, and my party disbands after the mob that got me my level. So, I decide to head to Windurst and get my quest from Nanaa, and head back to Jeuno and grab this one too. I was seeking for a bit and decided it seemed unlikely that I would get a party, so I go check this out.

I get to Monostic Cavern and do a search of the area. There is only one other person there and they are anon. I decide I have a decent shot of finding a coffer so I throw up Tonko and start running around. The second corner I turn, BAM, coffer. I throw of invisible and pick the lock . . .

And had my first encounter with a Mimic. Ow, Ustusemi was up, but it stunned me. I am spamming the **** out of my Perfect Dodge macro, when I finally see I am no longer stunned, I hit it again. Instead of seeing "Yhibye uses Perfect Dodge!" I see purple text saying "00:03:18." That was when I remembered I had Mijin Gakured to Jeuno about 2 hours ago. I felt like and idiot, I deleveled, and I had nothing to show for it. Truth be told, I don't think it would have helped if I had had my 2 hour. Two of the Ranger type Orcs spotted me after the Mimic attacked.

But oh well. I am only 400 to 50, so it isn't so bad. Tomarrow I will go back after some comfort xp is attained, and I am positive I have my 2 hour up.

Edited, Thu Feb 3 06:02:06 2005
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# Dec 24 2004 at 12:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyone got a link to the site that has the Coffer spawn points for Monastic Cavern? I'd SEROIUSLY appreciate it!!
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# Jan 19 2006 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
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http://www.ffxi-atlas.com

Maps of all the areas/regions in the game, plus spawn points etc.

(I should check the dates on these posts I'm replying to, hahah. Oh well, info's there for anyone else who might want it.)

Edited, Thu Jan 19 21:45:55 2006
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# Jan 04 2005 at 1:56 AM Rating: Good
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http://www.ffxi.blueelephantbrigade.com/maps/Out/Monastic%20Cavern.html

near the bottom.

Edited, Tue Jul 26 17:48:29 2005
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# Mar 02 2005 at 12:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Your link didn't work.

Try this one:

http://www.speakeasy.org/~sticks/ffxi/treasure/

Happy coffer hunting!

Edit: my link didn't work either LMAO. ;-)

Edited, Tue Mar 8 12:49:35 2005
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# Dec 08 2004 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I Die in my 1st time alone in Davoi b4 i even got to the cave :( I return to HP found 65 RDM (Appolo)(EN)then we split up and started lookin, Invisible wore so he stayed w/ me, walk for like 20 Secs. BAM **** Coffer! Pick It W/ Skeleton Key 1st Try and Succeed @ 51 thf/nin. We were in the cave for like 3 min. The LOC. was in the Right tunnel side of the Entrance
fighting dark spark
# Dec 01 2004 at 11:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you have to open the coffer before fighting dark spark or can you fight dark spark first? Some friends are going to help me with the fight and they haven't opened coffers yet, want to make sure they can still get what they need from the fight.
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# Nov 27 2004 at 12:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I went to Davoi with a Red Mage and me the first time... The red Mage would cast Invis while i looked for coffer. 15 mins passed and there it was, Treasure Coffer... I ran up to it (really excited) and used my pick lock macro... It was a Mimic! I died... so 2 mins passed and mimic dissapeared and rdm Raised me... 3 mins passed and i ran into the next tunnle.. there it was again!! So i took off invis without even thinking and used the pick lock macro.... "you cannot pick while weakend" (S.O.B.) so i used "Hide".... weakend status wore... and just as it wore a lvl 70 thf (JP) picked the lock... >.< and i got aggroed and died again... i was at 6k tnl now i am at 8k tnl =[...

So after I came back from watching Scarface, i bought Instant Warp and Shinobi-Tabi... i got to Davoi and yet agin the same thf picked the lock in front of me.... After an hour i said F-this i am loggin out... and just as i said it BOOM! coffer spawned... I took off invis and it was a success...

So basically:
1st try: Mimic (fail)
2nd try: SUCCESS!
Whee!!
# Oct 26 2004 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Crazy. I started this quest tonight, feeling quite bored. A high level THF friend told me that i could easily pick the chest, so I figured "Why not?"
I'm walking through Davoi, and spot a Treasure chest. I had brought some Thief's Tools as back up (I had 6 skele keys and 6 Thief's Tools) so I tried the tools on the chest... and got weakened. Shrugging and being glad it wasn't a mimic, I continued into Monastic Cavern. I find a Coffer withing minutes and go to pick the lock... but I remember that I'm weakened. I waited for 2 hours... finally I decided to leave, and the weakness wore off right when I zoned. I ran back and got the gauntlets on my second try. Yay!! On my way back through Davoi I used another Skele ikey on another chest, 7k gil Awesome. So over all, I'm very happy. Off to kill SDark Spark.
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# Oct 25 2004 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Did this today as a 50THF/NIN, didn't take much time to find the coffer,
what took the time was finding the entrance to Monastic Cavern >.>

found the coffer at (G-8), it was 2 orcs in the room.
dropped invis when they weren't looking and hit my Picking macro.
i started to wonder what was wrong when my macro didn't work, then i noticed i had targeted an orc instead of the coffer >.<
2 secs later he aggroed me, hit flee macro and attempted to zone(/slap <me>) then i remembered i had Hide ^^
recasted invis and waited for the orc to turn again,
1st attempt: Fail
2nd attempt: Fail
3rd attempt: Fail
4th attempt: Fail
5th attempt: You unlock the chest!
Nugattii obtains the key item, some old gauntlets.
now all i have to do is to kill Dark Spark!

*note i used Thief's tools doing this

Edited, Mon Oct 25 15:03:46 2004
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# Oct 23 2004 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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THF/NIN should have an easy time with this, Tonko is fixed duration not random duration like Sneak and can be recast while invisable.
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
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# Sep 26 2004 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I stared the shadowy hands quest with my drk and decided it was too hard....(Die eldieme necropolis!!...wait there all already dead ._.) well i went to Guslam and he keeps talking about my DRK AF hands...what am i doing wrong :(
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# Sep 25 2004 at 3:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Boy oh boy! Was this quest ever good for the ol' EXP decrease!

Attempt # 1 : Used a thief tool and it was a mimic. Slapped me around before I could use 2 hour and warp. I died in town from poison before I could make it to my mog T_T

Attempt #2 : Found coffer, disabled invisible and used tools. Recieve aggro from both orcs in the room. I panicked and started spamming my tools, completely forgetting about 2 hour.
Attempt 1 : Fail
Attempt 2 : Fail
Attempt 3 : Fail
Attempt 4 : Fail
Attempt 5 : Fail
Attempt 6 : Success!

Death, before I could use 2 hour.

Moral of this story : Don't panic.
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not to hard
# Sep 01 2004 at 5:23 PM Rating: Decent
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imma lvl 53 thf and i did this alone, it was rather easy but scary at the same time, got it on my first try with a "thief's tool" and then i just warped out, i didnt check the position cuz i just wanted to get the F**K out lol, but its a small place and u should find a chest soon enough.
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# Aug 23 2004 at 11:11 PM Rating: Decent
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lol got the gauntlets using thiefs tool. i got it withing 5 min. the thiefs tool failed 2x but i got it the 3rd time. almost got massarced by orcs. course we are thieves so we wont die that easily. used flee and zoned. lol.
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picking the lock
# Aug 22 2004 at 2:10 AM Rating: Decent
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about picking coffers, im not an expert. this is my first time doing a coffer, and my only other experience was picking my rse chests.

First try- living keys
6 failures, then a mimic on the 7th, perfect dodged ans warped

Second try- Skeleton keys
3 failures and a mimic on the 4th, perfect dodged and warped

Third try- Thiefs tools
2 failures, and got it on the third

i dont know if this was just my bad luck or what, but id go with thiefs tools when doing this
60+ to use skeleton keys??
# Aug 08 2004 at 10:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey ^^v 1st I just wanna thank everyone for the tips and info for everything on this site
2nd I wanted to let u know that u dont have to be 60+ to use skeleton keys I'm a 52 THF and i just got the armlets from coffer in Monastic Cavern...on the 1st try using skeleton keys
Just wanted to let u all know...and again thanks for all the help ^^

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just clearing up some things
# Jun 30 2004 at 10:33 AM Rating: Default
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^^ just a note about thf af2... you must first start thf af3.

what?

yes thats right...

when you talk to niina mihngo she will give you two letters and a thieves hideout. these are NOT for af2!!!!!!!! they are for af3!

BUT...

Guslam will NOT speak to you til you have spoken to niina mihngo... trust me i tried SEVERAL times...

I went to windy... spoke to niina mihngo recieved 2 letters and gang hideout location... tried to do that quest but couldnt find tower in sauromague champeign so i logged out to look up the quest info....

The reward for the quest was bonnet... minimum lvl requirement 54...

I thought WTF thats not right!!!!! thats af3!

The quest for guslam is rewarded with gloves... min lvl 52... THATS what i wanted!

I paniced and stressed out but decided... ok im gonna run to jeuno and talk to guslam ONE last time...

Sure enough as soon as i spoke to him a cutscene occured and my af2 quest has begun.

Just shareing my info so new thieves hopefully won't be as confused as me!!

1.) Talk to niina mihngo
2.) Accept the task and get your items from her but do NOT attempt to do this quest yet
3.) Go to jeuno talk to guslam
4.) Do quest as normal according to guide.
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RE: just clearing up some things
# Jul 27 2004 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
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This is AF4, the quest for the hat is AF2. You must accept the quest for AF2 before you start your AF4, and you must start AF4 before you do AF5 and AF6 (opening those coffers)
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Skele Keys
# Jun 21 2004 at 6:27 AM Rating: Decent
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They do work, i used 11 of them today to get my item :/ picking up a stack of living and tools for the castles
Stupid Prism Powders
# Jun 18 2004 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Bleh, definitely do not buy Prism Powders to do this. Tried it twice today, first time I was lucky and found a coffer pretty quick, but it turned into a Mimic. So after waiting 2 hours and partying and actually getting to 52 I came back... no one else in the Cavern, ran around for an hour, used a full stack of powders, used Hide and Camoflauge several times, never saw a single coffer.

Guess I'll level White Mage a few more levels and come back. I wasn't able to open the first coffer there with Skeleton Keys either, though I did open one in Crawler's Nest earlier in the day with one.
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Skeleton Keys
# Jun 03 2004 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Quote:

As a matter of fact, Skeleton keys can be used at 60+, below that THFs cannot use it


I used 3 skeleton keys at THF46 to open 3 treasure chests in a row in Shakrami Maze for my RSE Magic Pattern. No fails, no problems. If what you say is true, it may be different for coffers than chests.

I seem to recall a few posts that kept quoting the same unknown source about Thief's Tools, Living Keys, and Skeleton keys being divided against your DEX to make success rate. That may not be true either, but skeleton keys are probably costly for a reason.


~Pyra
RE: Skeleton Keys
# Jun 15 2004 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Correcting myself from the last post. Thief tools can make mimics too. I just attempted picking this coffer, and it tried to eat me. Perfect Dodged and Instant Warped my **** out of there.
RE: Skeleton Keys
# Jun 15 2004 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
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The reason skeleton keys cost so much is because they're the least likely to accidently to set off a trap. I've only used them twice on a coffer. The coffer didn't open, but it didn't explode or try to eat me either. I've also never seen a mimic outside an BCNM fight, which I hear is because I never use Living Keys. I guess the use of an alchemy item has unexpected results on mundane chests.
Correction
# May 31 2004 at 10:15 AM Rating: Default
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WTF! in every site i've been in for this AF.. it says u must have Skeleton Key to open the coffer......sorry to burst ur bubble but u dun need it to open the coffer in Monastic Cvrn to obtain the Item. As a matter of fact, Skeleton keys can be used at 60+, below that THFs cannot use it, and if u do u'll fail to even open ur Zip for a pee!
i bought half a friggin stack of Skeleton, went there found it, 5 high lvl THFs cheering for me while i open the coffer....and BOOM! i fail, i fail, i fail, and i fail again.... 1 JP player, told me im too low, thats y i cant open..so i went with my instinct and bought a stack of THF's tools.. went back, found it...and OPENED it on the first try!!!!!!!!
i think the reason y i suceeded with THF's tool is because this is a quest, and the rules on how to open coffers dunt apply on this situation...or perhaps it was just a glitch, u be the judge

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RE: Correction
# Jun 09 2004 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good
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I used a Skeleton Key on these coffers. But um...nice try?
5th may update
# May 06 2004 at 12:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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any1 know what was updated in this quest yesterday ?
af
# Apr 28 2004 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
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well, i recieved this quest for my af gloves for my paladin
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Torch
# Mar 25 2004 at 9:50 AM Rating: Decent
it was edited out, so i'll say it here, make sure that you touch the same torch that was touched originally. if you don't you will respawn Dark Spark.
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This is AF1-3
# Mar 23 2004 at 6:39 PM Rating: Decent
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This is AF1-3. I just got this quest. I got the AF1-2 quest, then got this one from Guslam. The AF-4 is the pants I belive. Check www.killing-ifrit.com for more info.
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RE: This is AF1-3
# Mar 23 2004 at 9:28 PM Rating: Default
Actually, no, it's not. This is AF4. AF3 is always for your level 60 item (like RDMs hat).
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