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Trial Size Trial by Ice  

Submitted by:Jyneefur
Realm:San d'Oria
Start Area: Northern San d'Oria
Start NPC:Castilchat (E - 7)
Type:General
Related Areas:Cloister of Frost
Related Mobs:Shiva Prime
Min Level:20
Max Level:20
Rating
*****
(Average from 30 ratings)
Items Required:Mini Tuning Fork of Ice
Last Updated: Thu Aug 20 06:00:36 2009

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Summary

The Rhinostery has developed a new "mini" tuning fork of ice. Ringing it upon the protocrystal in Fei'Yin will open the path to a one-on-one battle with the beast that awaits inside. However, only summoners are allowed to take up this challenge.

Walkthrough

Things to remember:

  • This is a solo battle.
  • There is a level 20 cap on this battle.
  • There is a 15-minute time limit.
  • You can only use Carbuncle.

Speak to Castilchat in Northern San d'Oria, standing next to Gulmama. You must have at least level 4 fame in the Kingdom of San d'Oria before he will allow you to do this quest. If you meet the requirements, he will present you with a Mini Tuning Fork of Ice.

  • This is not a key item, like the Tuning Fork of Ice, and therefore requires a space in your inventory.

When you have made your preparations, trade the Mini Tuning Fork of Ice back to Castilchat. He won't keep it. Trading him the Mini Tuning Fork of Ice will warp you directly to the Cloister of Frost for the fight.

Try to fight Shiva on Firesday and do not fight her on Iceday

Upon defeating her, you will receive the ability to summon Shiva to your side.

Strategies

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# Jul 05 2005 at 8:54 AM Rating: Good
34 posts
I beat Shiva on my first try yesterday night, i was really nervous but it was easier that i thought.
The trick is to get out all 3 Searing Lights and NOT fight her on iceday obviously...the ideal would be firesday or lightsday..having said that i fought her on lightningsday cause i was too stressed to wait XD
I didnt even have capped summoning skill(lvl 41 atm)I just cast Carby and ran to the other side of the field while he fought Shiva, then once he died i recast him and ran again.. did this about 3 times to get her health down a bit, then i let off the first Searing Light which only did 104 dmg >< the second and the third did 210 dmg each ^^ the last one finished her off... I used 4 ethers, 3 yagudo drinks and a Tazvanian taco or what ever its called XD i know its expencive (50k a stack on Hades) but it really really helped keep me alive when Shiva turned against me, i came out of there with 168 HPs so i'd say it helped. The whole fight took me 7 mins 14 secs... o.O i have no idea who set the record at 3 mins.. but i /bow to them m(_ _)m

Good Luck to everyone who tries to beat her! ^--^
avatar fight shiva
# Jun 10 2005 at 8:02 AM Rating: Decent
i have faught shiva 2 times and each time i came close to beating her first time she was
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second time she was
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third times the charm maybe
btw on second one i used smn/nin my intteruption status was 58%
my noobish mistake
# Jun 08 2005 at 12:27 AM Rating: Decent
ok, first off the first time i fought shiva i made the biggest mistake you can make comin to one of these fights, i completley forgot that while i was playin as my main (DRG by the way ^^)
i got on a choco with my wyvern still out and bam insta wyvern death lol. so after awhile i decided to give smn another try. and with my blood full of adrenelin i entered the battle used my yag drink sent carby to attack and went to use astral flow and it still had 23 min left before i could use it lol. i cursed my own stupidity as i released carby and alloed shiva to pummel me to death to punish myself for making such a noobish mistake lol. so long story short always make sure your 2 hour is ready before you try this fight.
Ouchies
# Jun 04 2005 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
Today, I faced off against Shiva... Ouch.
I got pwned easily.
But I will try again tommorow.
I hate her......
# May 27 2005 at 10:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I've tried beating shiva at least a dozen times. A few of my deaths were mistakes on my part like not running far enough away to avoid being nailed by her 2 hr. 2 of my attempts were the most sucessful but I still got pwned. First one I did splendidly got her near death and then poor carby got Diamond Dusted while the last SL was charging (I managed to avoid it but was hurting hardcore) then she floated up and thwacked me while I was trying to pop my last potion trying to prolong the inevitable.

The other try goes down as one fo the most infuriating things to happen to me since I started playing. I did everything perfectly textbook like was about to kill her and BOOM screen goes black and up pops "FFXI error: Network server is busy or not responding". The string of high decibil obscenities I spewed at that point would make George Carlin blush.... Unfortunately it was also really late at night and my screaming woke up my entire house hold and got me chewed out for an hour the following morning and more or less put the top slice on the whole **** sandwich.

I haven't tried again in months and haven't used SMN in almost as long. I also have titans mini fork but whenever I go to bastok I never seem to think about it until I'm on my way home again. I may give him a try or take another crack at shiva if for other reason than to get rid of the hi potions and ethers that are taking up space in my safe
This women...
# May 08 2005 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
25 posts
I was a buddys house, he was packing 2 Hermits wands as a 20SMN/10NIN and had 2 Yagudo drinks and 2 hi-ethers. He got a few buffs and headed on in. he summoned Carbuncle, put up his Yagudo Drink. and headed on in. he sat and watched carbuncle get his butt kicked a few times, recasted as nessesary till 2/3 HP. he then used Searing Light. He didnt get the 3rd one in and he had no way to resummon. Shiva was barely holding on to dear life. so he ran up there and started smacking her around with his wands. I didn't even see the HP bar on Shiva when she landed a critical and put him down. he was sooo close ><
OMFG
# May 08 2005 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
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this sucked... i tried for my third time and i was sure i would beat her... so she's got a little under half HP left (enough for one searing light to completely destroy her) and i use searing light but just as i do she kills carbuncle so i dont get to use searing light but i get carbuncle back out and the blood pact has been timed reset meaning i have to wait to use it again even though i never used it and Shiva takes this chance to kill me! /sigh it utterly sucked
I will try again tomarrow
Equipment?
# Apr 24 2005 at 1:00 AM Rating: Decent
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would equipment really matter in these fights? or could i just go in all lvl 1 equipment and still be ok?

Edited, Sun Apr 24 02:02:53 2005
RE: Equipment?
# May 17 2006 at 2:17 AM Rating: Decent
YES! Spell interuption equipment (hermit's wand, and hobi... whatever+1) then DEF DEF DEF! Shes gonna hit you and its gonna hurt. Most people even use def+ food, i did.
dont panic
# Apr 17 2005 at 3:02 AM Rating: Decent
I've fought all of the avatars except leviathan and fenrir, and I have only lost once. I lost my first ever battle against Titan. After reading thiefcats guide, which is pretty good, I thought I was ready.

My macros were incorrect, when I got there, the map wasnt what I expected, and I panicked. And then I died:)

I went over what went wrong, fixed my macros, searched for a video.
http://ichiban2.voyager.net/Trial-Size%20Trial%20by%20Ice%20HD.wmv

That video is the only one I could find, but it helped a ton. Its a rather long fight, somewhere around 10 minutes, but that method is about the safest one.

Myself I follow the three sl method. i take:
Hi potion x5
Ether x3
Yagudo drink x3
fish mithkabob

I use smn/whm, and im a tarutaru. I use one physical earring for extra hp. I always go on lightsday, that way i dont get resisted so much. It happens, just its pretty rare.

For your first couple fights, just let carby fight it for the first five minutes, die, resummon for awhile. Get used to how to move on the map. Make sure your macros work. Make sure SL gets off before you run, and DO NOT Panic. Adapt, you may have to finish the fight with banish. For me, melee was out of the question.

For my fights, I only use 2 of each item, but ifirt and ramuh made me use nearly all of it. Do try to get higher protects, they are a shout or two away in most places.

Again, the most important part of these fights: dont panic. i still make a mistake or two per fight, but keep cool and deal with it and you will be alright.

Most of the fights on asura have been done at around 3 and a half minutes. Shiva was at 7 and a half until i got there, new record is 6 min:D

edit: video link appears to not be working anymore, i watched it only two weeks ago:(

Edited, Sun Apr 17 04:09:47 2005
Need MORE help?
# Mar 20 2005 at 9:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's the Macro list I promised:

1. Carby (/ma "Carbuncle" <me>)
2. Astral Flow (/ja "Astral Flow" <me>)
3. Searing Light (/pet "Searing Light" <bt>
4. Potion (/item "Potion" <me>)
5. Hi-potion (/item "Hipotion" <me>)
6. Ether (/item "Ether" <me>)
7. Milk (/item "Selbina Milk" <me>)
8. Assault (/pet "Assault" <bt>)

Now in case you're wondering <bt> isn't a typo... it target the closest mob, so you don't have to target the avatar all the time.

One thing I forgot to mention before...
Sometimes Carby dies too quickly, and you cannot summon him again from a safe distance. The avatar WILL come after you and WILL interupt your summoning. Here's where the Hermit's Wand and the Heko Obi+ 1 come in handy, as well as any equipment that raises evasion (like Scentless armlets or Compound Eye Circlet). Raising your SMN Magic skill will also help with this situation, you'll want to try to get it to at least 40 before attempting these battles, it doesn't take too long, and it helps quite a bit.

Don't worry, it'll happen at one point with at least one of the avatars you fight. Don't lose it, just keep trying to summon and eventually (hopefully) Carby will pop out.

I wish you the best, any questions feel free to contact me at lion_heart3050@pol.com or just send a message online to Svalitz (Asura server)

Good luck!
Having Trouble?
# Mar 20 2005 at 9:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, there's no doubt about it... these fights are UNBELIEVABLY annoying. Don't worry though you WILL eventually get throught them, and the reward is worth the effort =)

Okay so after getting my butt kicked numerous times when I first started out, I've developped what has become an almost 100% successful method for these battles.

Now it costs a lot (depending on your server, for me this method can cost from 15k to 22k PER fight on Asura).
Here's what you need:

Potion X 5
Hi-Potion X 2
Ether X 5
Yagudo Drink X 3
Selbina Milk X 12 (just a clump of em will last for a loong time, and they're cheap too, only about 200G for 12)

Okay so very simple strategy. Get your hand on a Hermit's Wand and ANY other equipment that lowers spell interuption rates (like Heko Obi +1 for example), the rest of your equipment try to find things that raise your EVAsion stats, otherwise anything with the highest defense.

Now, when you enter the battlefield IMMEDIATELY cast Protect and Aquaveil (if using a SMN/WHM, I haven't tried any other combo), or you can try to get a Protect II or III from some nice player before entering the battle. Now having macros set for these fights helps a lot (I will post my macro list right after this).

Run up the ramp until you can see the avatar in the distance and cast Carbuncle right away. Use a Yagudo Drink RIGHT AWAY after summoning (it restores MP).

Use assault of the avatar where you summoned Carby (MAKE SURE that the avatar if busy with Carbuncle before moving) now run to the top and hide beside the crystal. Try to run far enough away so you no longer target the avatar and you can no longer see Carbuncle's health, only his name, you know then you are at a safe distance.
Now that you have a chance, use the Selbina Milk (it gradually restores HP). Be very alert during these battles, and restore anything that wears off if you feel you are safe to do so.

After a minute or so Carbuncle will be defeated by the avatar. DO NOT PANIC, this will happen MANY times during the fight, so get used to it. When you see Carbuncles name dissapear from the bottom of the screen summon him again RIGHT AWAY, DO NOT WASTE TIME. Once he pops out again, mash the Assault macro, and once the avatar has targeted Carby again, run back to the place you summoned Carby for the first time (a lot of people say to run back down to where you enetered the battlefield, personally I found this a waste of time, and it actually caused me MORE difficulty, so just do what you feel comfortable with).

Keep letting Carby get wooped until you either:

A) Have the avatar's health down to about 3/4's
OR
B) Have less that 70 MP remaining.

Now's when you break out the 2-Hour.
Once Carbuncle has been freshly summoned, let the avatar come close to you and use Astral Flow, it WILL come after you, but don't worry. Now hit the Searing Light macro, and WAIT until Carby hit it before running away, otherwise you'll completely miss the target. This is EXTREMELY important!!! USE at LEAST 2 or 3 ethers IMMEDIATELY!!! Otherwise Carbuncle will dissapear due to lack of MP, and you will most likely DIE! After using the Ethers run to a safe spot (as mentioned before by viewing only Carby's name nd the bottom) and use potions as needed (Hi-potions if in the yellow and regular potions if you are below 75%HP).

Make sure you have at least 40MP remaining and continue the "Carby dies, you re-summon" method until you can re-use Searing Light. Follow the same directons as before, stay CLOSE to the avatar and wait for Carby to use it.

Using this method, the second Searing Light should do the avatar in. If for some reason it doesn't, then follow the same directions as before, and pray you have enough time to get another Searing Light in before the 2-Hour wears off.

And there you have it! This method has worked for me 90% of the time. Why 90%? Because I once continued hitting the wrong macro thinking there was some glitch with the game rather than using Searing Light, which lead my 2-hour to expire and Shiva to kick my bum. Other than that extremely stupid mishap, I've won every other time.

Don't worry you CAN do it! It just takes practice, it's very rare that anyone can get an avatar on their first try. Good luck!
why can't i get the quest?
# Jan 22 2005 at 2:49 AM Rating: Decent
just wondering why i can't get the quest...

i have lvl 7 fame(checked 5 times)

i have smn unlocked and at lv 12, and my highest is 53 pld(forgot to update sig)

could someone please tell my why i can't get the quest?

thanks in advance

edit: had l instead of 1 x.x very sleepy when i wrote this

Edited, Sat Jan 22 09:47:00 2005
RE: why can't i get the quest?
# Mar 10 2005 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
You are not high enough. You have to be at least a lvl 15 smn at the time you talk to him to do the fights but it is recommend you be 20. When I hit 15 I am going to try and see if I can win but I am still a few lvls off.
RE: why can't i get the quest?
# Jan 29 2005 at 1:26 AM Rating: Decent
Try talking to him as a SMN I couldn't get the quest either until I talked to him as my SMN. Also you need to be level 20 to get the quest.


Edited, Wed Feb 2 01:36:01 2005
Spent 20k for nothing
# Jan 14 2005 at 9:02 PM Rating: Decent
ok so i finally got to lv 20 from the dunes. THen i spent 20k on 4 hi potions, 3 yaguado drinks and 3 hi elixers <as told to buy ls members> so hten i finally get into the battle with shiva. I am nervous but no that i have my lv 34 SMN ls member telling me exactly what to do. SO i get up there and cazt carby and use a yaguado drink. Astral FLow then searing light. But somehow i miss!!!!!!! o ok so i run back down and recast him. but when i get 55%, i get attacked. SO i am trying to run for my life when i get hit for 30 dmg about every 3 seconds. i use a Hi-potion and run again. AFter 2 min of running and using hi potions, i die. THis maybe my 1st avatar battle, but i dont think it cud b that bad. DOes anyone have any sugestions. I have a lv 10 nin but insted used a SMn/WHM with a HOlly Pole+1. Plz reply or /tell emeraldweapon on pandemonium thank you
RE: Spent 20k for nothing
# Feb 15 2005 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
You probably missed cause you were standing to far away from Shiva. When you use searing light, shiva aggros you and leaves carbuncle sometimes getting out of carbys range. Stand next to shiva and do searing light..... then run away.





/sigh sorry to hear ur failures
# Jan 13 2005 at 3:09 PM Rating: Excellent
31 posts
sorry to hear that some of u may not like or have had bad luck using the smn/nin method. i believe it works cause i used it for a tarutaru and a hume, and well i only lost to ifrit and ramuh on the tarutaru and ramuh twice and leviathan once on the hume... maybe u guys are doing something diff... or maybe ur too nervous. if u dont like to sub nin , then sub whm its the next best thing for aquaveil and paralyna. if you have any questions and ur on garuda server send me a /tell i'll help u out if im not too busy
SUB NINJA , DUAL WIELD DAGGERS
# Jan 04 2005 at 11:50 PM Rating: Decent
Beat her today , I brought 32 Hi Potions and 7 Yagudo Drinks , lost once before , so this time I meant business . I have 55 inventory from some Gobby bag quests so I had 16 slots for equipment and the rest was all 32 Hi Potions and 7 Yag drinks . I didn't use all the potions though , had some left over .
Shiva Prime
# Jan 02 2005 at 9:36 PM Rating: Decent
[b][/b]Alright, about this evil purple shebitch...

I have fought Shiva four times. Here are my experiences...

First time- This was a test run, no potions, no ethers, no yagudo drinks, no macros. Just me, and carby. I ran up to the 90 degree angle, aka "the bend" and summoned carbuncle. Assaulted her, and ran...since i didn't have my macros set, she ran up to me while i was trying to summon and i got Blizzard II'ed to death.

Second time- Alright, got my macros, got 7 yagudo drinks, 2 potions, 2 ethers...same thing...wasn't fast enough...got beaten to death.

Third time- Alright, i was serious about this *****...i kept running..and running...she was down to about ---- that much health. After carby died the first time, i was all the way down at the bottom, summoned carby and made the dumb mistake of running to meet her halfway at the bend with carby. She got me.

Fourth time- Alright, macros, carby, hi-potion, hi-ether, yagudo...blah, blah, blah. This battle lasted for about 11 minutes she had -- that much health...i would have one, but one problem...I RAN OUT OF MP and tried to whack her to death...it turns out she's much stronger.

So, tommorrow, on Firesday, I am taking this thing on with more Ether, less potions. I will win.

Check me out on the Garuda server- Grungy or Hotelcalifornia.


Special thanks to those who have supported me: Chulainn, Kalia, Kolonapin, and Blaize. Without them, I wouldn't have gotten as far on these battles.
I suck ><
# Dec 24 2004 at 7:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Bahahahaha! After a horrifying week LVing my SMN in the dunes, countless hours of research and preparations, thousands of gil spent on gear, food and drink, adrenaline pumping through my blood and with the cheers of my LS buddies still echoing in my ear... I accidentally entered the uncapped Shiva Prime battle! Got slammed hard for 532 damage (yes it killed me, obviously) and I deLVed... I suck bad!

But hey, I can laugh at my mistakes and learn from them. Suppose I can use the downtime to think about what happened and get the 400 xp I need to get my LV back.

Ah well, I didn't get my avatar on my first try like I had hopped, but the tale I took away from the Cloister of Frost instead is priceless! =)
I still suck =P
# Dec 26 2004 at 11:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually had some REAL battles against her, but I'm still not having any luck... 0/4 now, counting my mishap of entering the wrong battlefield the first time (which I still find pretty funny, even though it happened to me).

Second time I got pounded by Shiva while trying to get Carby back after he died too fast, then hit w/ her 2Hr (I would have survived either individually, but I ran out of hi-potions and couldn't heal myself).

3rd time I was doing pretty good, but waited too long to use Astral Flow and ran out of time ><. Stupid mistake, I know. This loss hurt the most because I really think I could have won if I hadn't been trying to 'play it safe'. I watch the clock from now on...

Fought her again tonight... me and Carby both got hit by Diamond Dust after I used my first Searing Light (which did 110 dmg...), then got meleed to death trying to get him back out. Finally got the spell off with 6 HP left, but didn't have time to do anything with Carby before Shiva finished me off.

I'm just not having any luck. Even when loading myself with Yag Drinks, hi-potions and hi-ethers I get wasted. Good thing I've been saving my gil for so long. I have a feeling I'm going to need it to get through all the avatars.
I feel stupid
# Dec 08 2004 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
Well, last night was my 1st avatar fight, and since Shiva is the only one I have fame for, i decided to try it. Anyway, i went to sell stuff outta my MH, and put my supplies(Yag drink, hipotions, ether, and such) into my MH. Well, after sellin the spare items out of my MH, i forget to run back to the MH and get my stuff. Long story short, i went into the avatar fight with only Carbie and no supplies. You guessed it, i died a horrible death. Anyway, im 0/1 and am going to try to kill her again tonight. Wish me luck, and hope i don't make another noob mistake like that again^^.
I'm Frustrated.....
# Nov 28 2004 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
I've been doing this night after night with no success..... I can usually get off two out of three searing lights before she does me in. Feel like my timing is off or somethin.. I don't know. I just get frustrated with the fact that after being defeated I can't go back and try again right away. Does anyone have any idea how I could get around being forced to wait a whole 24 hrs before I can do this again? And I'm not talking about doing it right before midnight and then again after like the chocobo quest. I want to be able to do it again and again until I get it. Can anyone help me?
I FINALLY WON!
# Nov 19 2004 at 9:07 PM Rating: Default
OMG after 7 losses fighting against shiva I FINALLY WON! i had to spend about 50k just fighting her >< i wonder how long its gonna take me to beat the others >.> if somebody would please like to donate me any items or gil it would be greatly appreciated. ie. ethers potions yag drinks.





Server:Ramuh
Username:Miniyou
Job:36 Whm
Time
# Nov 16 2004 at 11:10 PM Rating: Decent
3rd time i've lost to shiva EXACTLY how many days, game time, do u have to wait to fight her agian??
how many days?
# Nov 16 2004 at 11:00 PM Rating: Decent
I've lost to shiva 3 times now and i would like to know EXACTLY how many Vana Diel days do u have to wait to fight her agian...... ps its a lil easier on firesday cuase she is weak, damn her 2 hring me when she is almost dead.
FINALLY!
# Nov 03 2004 at 8:26 PM Rating: Decent
omg, i beat her! i tried yesterday... got a little too cocky, and got wasted. so i waited until i could fight her again today, went in (the first time i brought 3 yag drinks, 1 steamed crab, 3 hi-potions and had my lovely girlfriend cast protect III on me. this time i did all the same, only i had a hi-ether to back me up) went to the top os the "stairs" used my first yag drink, and proceeded to fight like i was supposed to (smn carby, make him attack, run down, etc.) got her down to about the M in PRIME used my second yag drink, then unleashed my first searing light on her. that took her down to about id say 1/4 or less of her hp, carby stayed out because of my yag drink and while he fought her i decided to use my ether (for good messure). as my taru is fiddling around in his little pack to activate the ether carby dies and shiva starts comin for me. mind you, my activation for the ether was only at about 20% at this time. so im thinkin "oh crap, im done fore... again" but my ether activates as she gets to me, she hits me like 3 times while i try to smn carby back. needless to say it he failed to smn, but i tried again, and she hit me again, and now im really thinkin im done for, but lucky day, carby came out on my second try. i use a hi-potion (also for good measure, i had about 87hp at this point) get off my last searing light and she is takin a dirt nap. wasnt too bad that time around, so good luck to all you smn that are goin after shiva soon, i hope this can help you a bit. shes really not as hard as people say

p.s. i fought her on firesday
Good Stradegy
# Nov 02 2004 at 2:56 PM Rating: Excellent
31 posts
ok here's how i did most my avatar fights....
{macros}
/ma "Carbuncle" <me>
/pet "Assault" <bt>
/pet "Searing Light" <bt>
/ja "Astral Flow" <me>
/item "Yagudo Drink" <me>
/item "Ether" <me>
/item "Hi-Potion" <me>

{Items}
4 Yagudo Drinks (YD)
3 Ethers
3 Hi-Potions
{Job}
smn/nin
{REASON}(dual weild) 2 Hermits wands 50% chance of getting carby back out if something goes wrong.
{Strategy}
enter battle feild and go a little past bend and use YD, then summon carby and make way to avatar stay out of aggro range and inch ur way to avatar while mashing assault macro. carby should go straight to him without u getting aggro. run back past the bend a lil bit... while waiting there mash ur carby macro til carby gets summoned after carby comes out wait for him to engage then run back behind crystal as far as u can go and mash carby macro. after he gets summoned wait for him to engage and run past bend a lil bit...use YD when it runs out and do this over and over til ur 2nd yagudo drink runs out {REASON} to wittle his life down so u can use 2 Searing lights instead of three. NOW his life should be at 5/6; when ur second yagudo drink runs out... wait for carby to die. when u summon him pop a yagudo drink and use astral flow right away {REASON} cause u get all hate right now....then when carby hits avatar he takes all hate in 1 to 2 hits. Now run up to avatar make sure ur 'close' hit searing light macro( you dont have to target avatar /pet "Searing Light" <bt> automatically tagets the "partys" mob)...bam carby has all hate take off running to other side of map {REASON} need time for Blood Pact to come back. carby dies u summon him... pop ether and follow carby to avatar Searing light should be ready... and hit searing light macro to kill him.

I've only lost to leviathan and ramuh all others took me 1 try with this method. Hope this works for all u smns out there!

Edited, Tue Nov 2 14:59:00 2004
Very odd happenings
# Oct 28 2004 at 4:05 PM Rating: Decent
I am so happy i finally beat shiva and no longer have to come to this portion of the page, but previous to this i was having a slight problem and would like to know why. It started out plike a normal battle, but i start running down the path and she follows me and im like "alright i can handle this just let carby attack once" he did and i ran towards the top she yet again followed me. I was starting to get freaked so i let carby hit her again and run again. She still follows me.I get to about mid path stop and wait for carby to come and hit her he comes smacks her and then i take off. As soon as i turned around i see my carbys life gauge go from full to empty in one attack. Still to close to her and i try pitifuly to resummon carby. I magically get carby out, he hits (i have 39 hp left, dang taru hp issues) and i see her use her 2hr and my life bar, not carbys, hit zero and i die. SO i would like to know why she had all this hate for me and just wouldn't attack carby. I didnt cast any spells aside from carby when i got in there and i used all my items far from her can anyone please help me out
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