Trial Size Trial by Lightning  

Start Area: Mhaura
Start NPC:Lacia (I - 9)
Related Areas:The Boyahda Tree
Related Mobs:Ramuh Prime
Min Level:20
Max Level:20
(Average from 6 ratings)
Items Required:Mini Tuning Fork of Lightning
Last Updated: Wed Jul 23 16:28:56 2008

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The Rhinostery has developed a new "mini" tuning fork of lightning. Ringing it upon the protocrystal in The Boyahda Tree will open the path to a one-on-one battle with the beast that awaits inside. However, only summoners are allowed to take up this challenge.


Things to remember:

  • This is a solo battle.
  • There is a level 20 cap on this battle.
  • There is a 15-minute time limit.
  • You can only use Carbuncle.

Speak to Lacia in Mhaura, standing next to Ripapa. You must have at least level 3 fame in Mhaura before she will allow you to do this quest.

If you meet the requirements, she will present you with a Mini Tuning Fork of Lightning.

When you have made your preparations, trade the Mini Tuning Fork of Lightning back to Lacia. She won't keep it. Trading her the Mini Tuning Fork of Lightning will warp you directly to the Cloister of Storms for the fight.

Try to fight Ramuh on Earthsday and do not fight him on Lightningsday

Upon defeating him, you will receive the ability to summon Ramuh to your side.


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kinda a noob question
# Apr 05 2011 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Kinda a Noob Question, just started really trying these fame required quests. How Do i Raise My Fame In Mhaura?
kinda a noob question
# Apr 05 2011 at 9:49 AM Rating: Good
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General fame info: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Reputation

Quick fame quests: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Quick_Reputation

Wiki has all the info you can want.
# Jun 19 2009 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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I decided to fight this guy on Lightsday, All I half to say is that it didn't turn out to well. The run was going pretty smoothly, however carby missed not only its 2nd but third searing light I was so mad. Has this happened to anyone else? I would also like to note that my summoning magic was capped aswell.

Edited, Jun 19th 2009 6:00pm by rasputsin
# Jun 22 2009 at 2:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I fought this guy again on earthday, and all I gotta say is victory is sweet.
Just a thought...
# Jan 18 2008 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Though quite a bit different, here was my strategy for beating the avatars at lvl 20. I've had several people tell me not to use this method, but as I killed 4 of them first try and 1 second try with it (Shiva killed me multiple times before I tried this method, which worked) I think it's worth some review at least. Tell me your thoughts...

Weapons: duel equipped Hermit's Wands (-50% spell interruption)
Armour: Defense as priority on every slot but earrings and belt.
Belt: Whatever that belt is which gives you -8% spell interruption.
Earrings: Avatar element specific earrings, or defense. Sometimes I had no earrings of even defensive value, so not sure it mattered.
MP doesn't matter for this battle armour-wise so don't worry about it, because you'll just lower your defense.
Food: I always had some sort of crab meat.
Summoning skill: I made sure it was above 40. I think by my last avatar (Ramuh) it was around 47ish, while my first one (Titan, easy as pie) was around 41 or 42. While they did get easier after it got to lvl 45, it didn't make that much difference.
Items: I always had about 5 hi-potions, 6 ethers, and 2 yags. I don't think I EVER used all the hi-potions, and usually only used 1 or 2, but I wanted to be safe, and I knew I could sell whatever I didn't use.
Also, I never fought an avatar on it's strong day (Ifrit + Firesday = 3rd degree burns) and tried to fight them on their weak days. I could tell a difference when I fought on their weak day versus a regular day, but I was able to beat them either way.

Usually I would try to get a higher lvl protect/shell from someone nearby before I got warped over. If no one was around I didn't, and it didn't seem to make that much difference.

After entering the battlefield I ate, then I ran up to where I could just see the avatar. I summoned Carby, drank a Yag, and went to the edge of the circle to sick Carby on it without it aggro'ing me.
Right after Carby engaged it I would run up and use AF, then use Searing Light. [You have to be close to the mob (I was always close enough to hit it with my wands) when you use SL otherwise it'll get out of range of Carby and miss. You also cannot move after using it, or there's a chance Carby will miss. both of these are very important.]

After Carby used SL I ran past the first bend, drank a hi-potion and two or three ethers, and waited until carby was killed (I never rested). If he died before I got all my potions down I would simply summon him again, run out of range and drink the rest. I was pretty much ALWAYS ready (obviously) with mp before my timer was ready for another SL, so I would run back up to the Avatar and use it right when it was ready (being close and standing still etc.).
Immediately after the second SL I RAN AWAY, because I believe all but one of the avatars used their 2hr right away (this is the reason for the first hi-potion mentioned above, because you need full health for it's 2hr). As long as you have full life, it's not the avatar's strong day, and especially if you have elemental earrings etc., you shouldn't even be close to dying (I'm Mithra, so I don't know about Taru...).
This is where your Carby dies very fast, so drink an ETHER first, pull him back out (this is where that - spell interruption armor comes in), run far enough away to not get aggro for using a hi-potion, and use another ether or two.
Now just pull out the last 2hr and whale on it with Carby to kill it. Easy stuff, once Carby even died and I killed it by just hitting it, and I think another time I only got off 2 of my SL's. Your Yag may never wear off the whole fight, but just keep an eye on it. I had 2 just in case.
Also, they kept missing me after they used their 2hr, so even without the spell interruption armor Carby may have been able to come out. I know part of this has to do with being Mithra, but I think the NIN sub duel-equip is a good backup.
Oh, and my evasion was NOT that high, because my main is a RDM and I wasn't very high as RDM by that point.

A quick note for Ramuh: I let Carby hit him a few times before I engaged AF the first time, and might have even let him kill the first Carby as I ran backwards to give me enough time to summon him again before I used my AF. This makes it so when Ramuh uses his shock thing immediately (sorry, been a LONG time) YOU don't get hit with it, and carby either has enough time to recover or you're on a different, non-"shocked" Carby. Believe me, it makes a difference.

Things to remember about fighting the avatars:
1: You must have at LEAST twice the amount of magic points as the level you are to use an Astral Flow ability. This means if you are level 20, you need at LEAST 40 magic points to use Searing Light, though some say 41 magic points. While two ethers with a yag drink in effect will do it, you're not leaving yourself much margin of error (if done correctly, it should work every time though).
2: High-Ethers go off WAY to slowly for these battles. I have used them, but it's just not worth it. Trust me.
3: Don't move after using Searing Light, because Carby may miss, and be CLOSE to the avatar or it will aggro away from Carby. I was always right next to it, and it always got a hit or two on me before focusing on Carby again. Not a big deal.
4: ***** magic points, if you're using Astral Flow you'll only need enough to get Carby out and have him attack with SL. Get that defense up.
5: Be ready for the avatar's 2hr. Just... be ready for it.
6: Breathe
7: Use Macros for AF abilities, and possibly potions as well. Not necessary, but very, very handy and could definitely save your life.
8: Don't fight the avatar on it's strong day, and fight it on it's weak day if possible. Fighting it on Carby's strong day is okay, but as three Searing Lights will usually take it down anyway having the avatar hit you for less damage (especially with it's 2hr) is more beneficial than having Carby hit for more damage.
9: Have fun!

I know this strategy is a little more expensive and quirky, but I defeated four of the low level avatars with my lvl 20 SMN my first try with it, one my second, and only Shiva took me more because I wasn't using my strategy with her to start. Everyone told me Ramuh was a ****, but he wasn't that hard at all for me... and I think even paralyzed me before I used my AF once.
If your club skill is capped you can even do some "decent" damage dual-wielding if it's not dead after your third Searing Light (I killed off two avatars this way, though I don't think my club was capped).

I hope this helps! SMN is a ton of fun so good luck to all of you!

Edited, Jan 19th 2008 4:45am by Middlemanpower
Ramuh Strategy FTW!
# Jan 15 2007 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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I basically followed the technique used in the Avatar Section of http://www.summoner.info/ … GREAT! site btw I recommend checking it out… its got pics and all… answers a lot of questions and then some…

With Ramuh… strat changed just a little bit… and I always try to ask for Shell or Shell 2 from friends or ppl in the area before getting warp to specific cloister cus it does help… started off same tho with crab or fish mithkabob, protect, and aquaveil before trading mini fork to protocrystal… <just as a side note: remember to trade mini fork to protocrystal or u will enter the normal uncapped fight>… go to bend, pop a pamama au lait, cast carby, pop a yag… run to edge of pit… use assault then run away to bend… Ramuh will do Thunderspark at start everytime and it will paralyze u (even if ur very far)… cast paralyna (or remedy) while carby keeps it interested… wait for carby to die then cast carby again… once carby goes after it go with him… use Astral Flow… then Searing Light… <make sure u are near enough when u do Searing Light or else it will not hit>… /em gets reminded why he died from Ifrit… anyways… once SL goes off run back up to pit, pop an ether and I stress ETHER!!! or Ether +1 cus Hi-Ethers take way too long to cast… pop a Hi-Potion (if u need it… but better safe than sorry)… wait for carby to die cast carby… use Searing Light… run down to bend… pop an ether… pop a Hi-Potion... <watch ur yagudo drink… if it wears use another… u always want refresh up or else carby will disappear once u do Searing Light>… once carby dies cast him again and do ur final Searing Light… now this is where it gets interesting… a lot of ppl have said 3 Searing Lights isn’t enough to kill Ramuh and I’ve seen it… I even killed this <******* Sword> on Lightsday when carby is most powerful… if and when he doesn’t die from 3 Searing Lights u will need to be creative by either nuking him with Banish, which is what I did <extra ethers come in handy at this point> or get out carby again and try to beat him to death literally... hopefully anyone reading this can kill him by just using 3 SL’s but if by chance u cant good luck LOL! U’ll need it!

Ramuh 1/2
Shiva 1/2
Ifrit 1/2
Leviathan 1/2
Garuda 1/2
Titan 1/1

That site again is http://www.summoner.info/ … make sure u check it out…
Elemental Day!
# Jan 10 2007 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Just as a little side note... ull wanna do this on Earthsday! Happy Hunting!
# Oct 26 2006 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
a looong time ago I got smn to 20 and went 1/3 on Garuda (I was a noob, was the hardest thing I had ever done to defeat her) because I wanted to use her in a BCNM. Well now I'm looking to do Mercurial Kris BCNM and I need Ramuh, so I go buy a few pieces of gear, not much. I had done /nin for Garuda but wanted /whm for Ramuh for Paralyna. So I buy 4 yag. drinks, 3 ethers (meant to get hi-ethers ><) and 3 hi-potions. Go in buffed... run up to where I can see him, I recalled people saying that they agro magic so summoning carby in range will get them to come after you, without you having to take hate w/ Assault. Don't try this strategy with Ramuh... He starts with Thunderspark as well documented... and paralyzes my Carby summoning >.> So... I'm like "gawd I'm fooked"... start trying to cast again... he swings and misses (Mithra w/ +10eva from gear). swings again and hits but aquaveil and hermit wand do their thing. Carby engages and I run down to bottom, about 170hp which is slightly high for potion but low if I get caught in JB. So I go about doing the thing... and twice get caught in thunderspark, but both times paralyna goes off without a problem. At about 80MP I cast a fresh carby, and AF... when he gets close, SL (My summoning magic lvled to 57 during the fight... not capped) for 210... he's got about 1/5 life. So I run up, use my ether... and I'm like... ************* 20mp!?" so I'm confident I'm screwed... carby's about dead, got like 40mp, yag drink up but only enough HP to survive about 2 melee hits. So I get carby out and he misses -_-. Twice -_-;; so I take 1 hit... second one misses. finally Carby takes hate off me and I go to SL second time... still 1 second, heh. Second SL is unresisted as well, and Ramuh falls. ^^

This is one stupid thing I did that may help people to NOT do... when I had summoned carby and Ramuh was coming at me, I would run past him, and a few times take hits because of either TP moves or carby failing to take hate. In retrospect that could have been avoided if I was more patient and let Carby run out to greet Ramuh. Also, while I'm personally an advocate of the /nin strat, I'd say /whm is better here. I had a Remedy on hand just in case, but Paralyna really is a life saver. Good luck!
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# Aug 29 2006 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Not too bad
# Apr 11 2006 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
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This fight is cake as long as you remeber that he will paralyze you and carby right off the bat. Just send him in, run away, paralyna, and wait for carby to die. Then you can proceed as normal with 3xSLs. Did it on lightsday just to make sure. He never even used Judgement Bolt once.
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# Apr 02 2006 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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i did this today and brought ramuh down to 4% hp before he killed me.....on watersday! O_o
now i just regret that i didn't wait for lightsday ; ;
but he's mine tomorrow hahahahHAHAHAHA!!!!....lol

edit: srry for double post >_<

Edited, Mon Apr 3 07:33:09 2006
# Apr 02 2006 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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i did this today and brought ramuh 4% hp before he killed me.....on watersday! O_o
now i just regret that i didn't wait for lightsday ; ;
but he's mine tomorrow hahahahHAHAHAHA!!!!....lol
um 21 damage searing light?
# Jan 10 2006 at 3:34 AM Rating: Decent
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So far with all the avatar fights... they have gone exactly as i have expected. Everyone in my LS seems to be doing Smn at the same time and i was the last to hop on the wagon.

While they all were complaining about how hard the avatar fights were i was talking crap telling them how i was going to sweep them like no tomorrow, so far so good until Ramuh.

To begin, i went in with only a single hi-potion, whoops. I figured ah whatever, ill work around it, i usually dont need that much health anyways. So i go in pop my crab/yagudo drink/protect/aquaveil and head on up. For one Ramuh didnt aggro me until i was looking him in the face, i could have sent carby out to get killed a good first time for extra damage but whatever. so i engage, BOOM paraylsis, (i hadnt read up on ramuh feeling confident over all my other victories) no biggie, paralyna worked fine. 2 hr, first searing light! a good one claims just about 50% off Ramuh. i run like **** back for the bottom and started my hi-ether (normals were sold out at ah, and was too lazy to find a vendor) i get mp back, ramuh comes down the hill after making short work of worthless carby. i get carby back out after 2 interruptions and hit my 2nd searing light, drops Ramuh to about 25%. by this point i hit my one hi potion i had and got to about maybe 150 hp. Ramuh blasts carby with 2 hour as i bolt up the hill. another long wait on a hi-ether and ramuh is back. So i get carby out and ready, 10 seconds left on blood pact while ramuh is beating on me, im down to about 50 hp and finally get off searling light. So i begin to do my victory dance when i see the number 21 pop over the bad boys head.

O_o is about what i looked like at this point im sure.

whats all this nonsense about 3 searing lights finishing off any avatar? What is the damage based off? after this fight i am going to run some tests to determine if current hp has anything to do with searing light damage because i had the fight in the bag until that little mishap.

moral of the story is: Dont dance till the cutscene my friends.
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avert your eyes!
# Nov 07 2005 at 8:04 PM Rating: Decent
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if you are going to try this just be ware of paralyze that is it! these posts will instill the fear of the heavens in you and you will panic! happened to me and i completely bumbled SL #2 and #3. macro paralyna and bring an aluit thats all you need to know do not read the other posts or you will freak out! seriously!
RE: avert your eyes!
# Dec 19 2005 at 8:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Midway of Valfor here:

I have to agree with Septh's post. Ramah can be hard as **** if you are not prepared for his Thunder Spark (which he uses often). Here's what I did to counter his Thunder Spark (TS): First, I waited for TS (because I knew it would be Ramah's 1st attack) and countered it with a Remedy, use AF followed by SL.

After that, I used the same strategy I use for the other avatars keeping a close eyes out for his TS again. Mulsum works great for keeping your MP above 44 (when preping for your 2nd or 3rd SL). I did a combination of Ether followed by Mulsum to keep from using up all my Ether.

Second, I made it a point to keep my HP above 200 just in case he used his 2hr (Judgement Bolt) to end the battle.

I managed to get off all 3 SL's with plenty of time (and HP) left over. I beat him in 4 min & 6 secs.

I had all possible Spell Interuption and Evaision gear, and buffed using Aquavail, Protect, and Blink (Garuda).

Here are the supplies I brought along.

Hi-Potion X 5 (only used 3)
Ether X 5 (only used 2)
Remedy X 5 - works alot better then Paralyna (only used 3)
Yagudo Drink X 1
Steamed Crab X 1 (25% Def Enhance)
Mulsum X 12 (only used 4, just a clump of these will last for a loong time, and they're really cheap.

Remedy is very expensive but worth every penny.

Hope this post helps.

Good Luck!!!

Edited, Mon Dec 19 21:01:46 2005
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RE: avert your eyes!
# Nov 15 2005 at 2:29 AM Rating: Decent
this guy aint joking i just did this and the paralize messed me all up i set up my macro's before i went in and i for got one thing... the " " around the searing light and astral flow... got owned fast too. I relized what i done and so i tryed to manuly do it but after i hit parlyna....he did it again. So when i hit the searing light... you get it dam the paralyze >.<
ramuh mad hard
# Oct 21 2005 at 6:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I tried to kill him twice with very little preperation only like 1 ether 2 hi pot and 2 yag drink on earthsday twice, once i always killed him but the other time my 2 searin light hit for a nasty 110 :( i got massacred. But now imma get protect2 shell+boiled crab+evasion+light res+ 2 ethers+4 hi pot+2 yag drink+traiders armor and hopefully ill win, i rly want thunderspark for qufim and judgement bolt MB snippers and pugs :D
By far the Toughest Avatar battle for me
# Jul 05 2005 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay I finally beaten all if the lv 20 Avatar battles tonite. Ramuh was by far the toughest for me, it took me 7 tries. I used the strategy that was posted on KTSummoner. and it worked wonders with every other battle except Ramuh. I'm also got the new record time on Leviathan server in Titan, Leviathan, and Ramuh(even though he took me 7 tries lol). The biggest headache from this guy is that he paralyzes you which causes me to have trouble summoning carbuncle the 2nd time. and that throws things off completely. When I finally beat him. Paralyze didnt effect my casting, so therefore my strategy worked. if you want to try this strategy, go to http://www.summoner.info/ it worked great for me.

Results for avatar battles were

Shiva 1/1 time 4:26
Ifrit 1/1 time 4:32
Titan 1/2 (forgot to bring ethers first time lol) time 3:27 (Record on Leviathan Server)
Garuda 1/2 (accidently fought Garuda Prime first time) time 4:03
Leviathan 1/1 Time 3:35 (Record on Leviathan Server)
Ramuh 1/7 Time 3:25 (Record on Leviathan Server)
RE: By far the Toughest Avatar battle for me
# Sep 16 2005 at 1:52 AM Rating: Decent
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hey good job on ramuh u beat my record which is 3:51 on lvl 20 i am the record holder on slyph but gj u beat me lol
# May 28 2005 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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As far as dealind with the paralyze effect from Thunderspark, I've found that using a Remedy gets rid of it no problem without geting interrupted at all. The downside, Remedies are EXPENSIVE (10k per stack on Titan). So if you cn afford it, this will let you sub nin and have 2xHermits wands.

Good luck to all.
Retry timer?
# May 05 2005 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Whats the time inbetween retrys on these guys? I died to Ramuh Forgot to use my 3 Hi potions lol i wanna get him dead this time >.>

Edited, Thu May 5 14:12:23 2005
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I hate Lightning
# Mar 30 2005 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
I've also had problems fighting this avatar. So far, I've only been defeated by Ramuh and Garuda.

The second time I tried, I went in with 5 Hi-Potions, 3 Hi-Ethers, 3 yag drinks, and 1 Shallops Tropicale. I didn't have anyone to cast high level buffs on me, so I only had protect and aquaveil. So I trade my fork, and get warped. I eat my Shallops, and cast my buffs, and regain MP, then I trade the fork to the crystal and enter the battlefield.

I run up to the bend, and summon carbuncle, and drink my drink, then run up and assault Ramuh. He answers back with Thunderspark. Not unexpected. I let carby pummel him, and run down to the zone and cast paralyna. Took 3 tries but got it off. By this time, Carby was dead, so I resummon. He automatically attacks Ramuh as he comes down the path. I use my 2hr and burn off a SL. 210 damage. I'm happy. I run up to the protocrystal, and wait for carby to die. Actually, only got halfway up, when Ramuh opens up with Thunder II and wastes carby. Fortunately, I was able to resummon and use a Hi-Ether. second SL was ready, so I burn it off. another 210 dmg. Ramuh was almost mine! But then the unthinkable happens...
Ramuh casts Judgement Bolt. I'm out of the way, but carby is toast. so I resummon. Carby comes back but I still have 10 seconds to my last SL. So me and carby both melee vs. Ramuh, hate going everywhere. I use my last SL and CARBUNCLE MISSES!!!! I checked the log afterward, no one was paralyzed at all. AFTER Carby misses, Ramuh casts thunderspark again. Now I'm running frantically, trying to cast paralyna, Carbuncle dies and Ramuh is chasing me down the path. he catches me at the turn and totally thrashes me.

I'm now completely broke, as the meds and foods cost me nearly 30k on Cerberus (3k for Hi-potions, 3k for Hi-Ethers{and ethers, oddly}, 2k for yag drinks. 1k for boiled crab {2k for steamed or 6k for shallops}) At these prices, fighting these avatars are nearly not worth it. I've gone through 300k trying to get them. Fortunately for me, I'm only two battles away from being finished. But come on, there's got to be a cheaper and easier way....

Titan: 1/1
Leviathan: 1/2
Ifrit: 1/1
Shiva: 1/1
Garuda: 0/1
Ramuh: 0/2

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Need help?
# Mar 20 2005 at 9:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, there's no doubt about it... these fights are UNBELIEVABLY annoying. Don't worry though you WILL eventually get throught them, and the reward is worth the effort =)

Okay so after getting my **** kicked numerous times when I first started out, I've developped what has become an almost 100% successful method for these battles.

Now it costs a lot (depending on your server, for me this method can cost from 15k to 22k PER fight on Asura).
Here's what you need:

Potion X 5
Hi-Potion X 2
Ether X 5
Yagudo Drink X 3
Selbina Milk X 12 (just a clump of em will last for a loong time, and they're cheap too, only about 200G for 12)

Okay so very simple strategy. Get your hand on a Hermit's Wand and ANY other equipment that lowers spell interuption rates (like Heko Obi +1 for example), the rest of your equipment try to find things that raise your EVAsion stats, otherwise anything with the highest defense.

Now, when you enter the battlefield IMMEDIATELY cast Protect and Aquaveil (if using a SMN/WHM, I haven't tried any other combo), or you can try to get a Protect II or III from some nice player before entering the battle. Now having macros set for these fights helps a lot (I will post my macro list right after this).

Run up the ramp until you can see the avatar in the distance and cast Carbuncle right away. Use a Yagudo Drink RIGHT AWAY after summoning (it restores MP).

Use assault of the avatar where you summoned Carby (MAKE SURE that the avatar if busy with Carbuncle before moving) now run to the top and hide beside the crystal. Try to run far enough away so you no longer target the avatar and you can no longer see Carbuncle's health, only his name, you know then you are at a safe distance.
Now that you have a chance, use the Selbina Milk (it gradually restores HP). Be very alert during these battles, and restore anything that wears off if you feel you are safe to do so.

After a minute or so Carbuncle will be defeated by the avatar. DO NOT PANIC, this will happen MANY times during the fight, so get used to it. When you see Carbuncles name dissapear from the bottom of the screen summon him again RIGHT AWAY, DO NOT WASTE TIME. Once he pops out again, mash the Assault macro, and once the avatar has targeted Carby again, run back to the place you summoned Carby for the first time (a lot of people say to run back down to where you enetered the battlefield, personally I found this a waste of time, and it actually caused me MORE difficulty, so just do what you feel comfortable with).

Keep letting Carby get wooped until you either:

A) Have the avatar's health down to about 3/4's
B) Have less that 70 MP remaining.

Now's when you break out the 2-Hour.
Once Carbuncle has been freshly summoned, let the avatar come close to you and use Astral Flow, it WILL come after you, but don't worry. Now hit the Searing Light macro, and WAIT until Carby hit it before running away, otherwise you'll completely miss the target. This is EXTREMELY important!!! USE at LEAST 2 or 3 ethers IMMEDIATELY!!! Otherwise Carbuncle will dissapear due to lack of MP, and you will most likely DIE! After using the Ethers run to a safe spot (as mentioned before by viewing only Carby's name nd the bottom) and use potions as needed (Hi-potions if in the yellow and regular potions if you are below 75%HP).

Make sure you have at least 40MP remaining and continue the "Carby dies, you re-summon" method until you can re-use Searing Light. Follow the same directons as before, stay CLOSE to the avatar and wait for Carby to use it.

Using this method, the second Searing Light should do the avatar in. If for some reason it doesn't, then follow the same directions as before, and pray you have enough time to get another Searing Light in before the 2-Hour wears off.

And there you have it! This method has worked for me 90% of the time. Why 90%? Because I once continued hitting the wrong macro thinking there was some glitch with the game rather than using Searing Light, which lead my 2-hour to expire and Shiva to kick my bum. Other than that extremely stupid mishap, I've won every other time.

Don't worry you CAN do it! It just takes practice, it's very rare that anyone can get an avatar on their first try. Good luck!
RE: Need help?
# Apr 13 2005 at 10:56 PM Rating: Decent
77 posts
Here's the Macro list I promised:

1. Carby (/ma "Carbuncle" <me>)
2. Astral Flow (/ja "Astral Flow" <me>)
3. Searing Light (/pet "Searing Light" <bt>
4. Potion (/item "Potion" <me>)
5. Hi-potion (/item "Hipotion" <me>)
6. Ether (/item "Ether" <me>)
7. Milk (/item "Selbina Milk" <me>)
8. Assault (/pet "Assault" <bt>)

Now in case you're wondering <bt> isn't a typo... it target the closest mob, so you don't have to target the avatar all the time.

One thing I forgot to mention before...
Sometimes Carby dies too quickly, and you cannot summon him again from a safe distance. The avatar WILL come after you and WILL interupt your summoning. Here's where the Hermit's Wand and the Heko Obi+ 1 come in handy, as well as any equipment that raises evasion (like Scentless armlets or Compound Eye Circlet). Raising your SMN Magic skill will also help with this situation, you'll want to try to get it to at least 40 before attempting these battles, it doesn't take too long, and it helps quite a bit.

Don't worry, it'll happen at one point with at least one of the avatars you fight. Don't lose it, just keep trying to summon and eventually (hopefully) Carby will pop out.

I wish you the best, any questions feel free to contact me at lion_heart3050@pol.com or just send a message online to Svalitz (Asura server)

Good luck!
RE: Need help?
# Oct 25 2006 at 11:21 PM Rating: Decent
Hmm. I think <bt> stands for battle target. It's not necessarily the closest monster, it's whatever one is claimed or possibly agro? If I'm wrong about that someone should correct me, but I think that's how it works.
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Beat him today
# Jan 05 2005 at 7:33 PM Rating: Decent
557 posts
Took this guy down today . Subbed Ninja , used 2 daggers , cut through him like butter . Piece of cake . Did Searing Light right away and he went down to half his HP . By then my TP was 100% and I used my Gust Slash , then he was at 25% HP and I Gust slashed him again . Killed him right away . I keep forgetting I need 40 mp for searing Light to work , otherwise he would of gone down faster .
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# Dec 12 2004 at 11:09 PM Rating: Decent
6 posts
I have to agree with a few posts: Calm the nerves once you get in the fight. I know you're all thinking "nerves? I'm not gonna get nervous." But it happens. Do something stupid and you'll die ^^ (with no xp loss, I might add). I went into the fight with a potion, hi-potion, hi-ether (all ethers were sold out >_<), and 2 yag drinks. Most important points for the fight:

1. Calm down. Turn on your favorite music, turn off FFXI's (although the battle music is pretty cool), and just kinda chill when you first get in the fight. Do your buffs, and wait for the mp to regen. This allows for your nerves to calm down a bit.

2. Only do Searing Light when you have over 44 MP. I failed to do this and lost the fight because of it.

3. Don't give up. The worst thing that happens is you die. That means you lost ~5k in gil (which takes what, 20 minutes MAX to recover) and 0 XP. However, like a couple of earlier posts, if you hit Ramuh with dia, he just might die from it after you're dead. ^_^

This forum is filled with good stratagies, so read them for tatics.

Just my two gil.

Update: Just fought him again. Went in with 3 yag drinks, 2 ethers, 2 hi-potions. Came out: 1 ether, Ramuh ^_^ Ran up, casted Carby at last turn before the top and then spammed Assult. Carby ran and attacked Ramuh. He immediately started casting thunderspark. Paralyzed. >_< Got that off, and the proceeded to let carby hit him until carby died. Recasted and then started running away again. Did that once more, then did Astral Flow. Hit Ramuh with 2 SLs and tried to hit for a third, but had under 44 MP. (didn't look). Of course it missed, so I started whacking him with my little club. Hate was trading between me and carby, so I used the two Hi-potions to keep me alive. Bam, Thunderspark again, but this time He was under 1/8th life, so I didn't even worry about paralyna and just kept whacking. A minute later (or what felt like a minute), He's mine ^_^. These almost seem unfair if you use AF and SL. Of course, you need to be out of range for the Prime's 2hr, of course (that's what Carby is there for ^_^). So with enough Yag drinks and potions, you should just be able to have carby beat them to death.

Ramuh: 1/2

Edited, Mon Dec 13 19:43:48 2004
i cant win
# Nov 19 2004 at 5:37 PM Rating: Decent
38 posts
WTF....im am now 0/7 against Rumah.I beat Shiva,Titan and Ifrit all on my first try.I am doing the 3 SL method, but after the second I always get 2hr'd. Kills carby and takes my hp down to the red...can never recover after that. Maybe i should just try to beat him to death. If you have any suggestions, i would greatly appreciate them.
# Nov 04 2004 at 8:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Someone please help me out. I have tried to solo Ramuh 3 times so far. I was teleported to the battle by trading the mini fork. Ramuh kills Carby in 1 hit, and then tracks me down and hits me for 580 damage. How do you ppl fight it for 8-10 minutes? What have I done wrong? Plz help. Reply or e-mail me at trashmail001@comcast.net.


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RE: Ramuh
# Nov 05 2004 at 4:56 PM Rating: Excellent
31 posts
u also need to trade the mini fork to the big crystal as well or else u fight the high lvl avatars ><
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Getting the fork
# Nov 04 2004 at 12:51 PM Rating: Decent
I have accepted the lvl 65+ battle "Trial By Lightning. Is there any way to get the :Trial Size Trial of Lightning" quest now. I want to solo all my avatars, except Fenrir of course. It does not matter how much I talk to them, I can't get the quest. Anyone have any ideas or is having the same problem?
RE: Getting the fork
# Nov 04 2004 at 1:59 PM Rating: Excellent
31 posts
you need to have at least a 15 smn and talk to the guy next to the little taru for the mini fork "lvl 20 cap fights"
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RE: Getting the fork
# Nov 05 2004 at 6:30 PM Rating: Decent
I did that already, but I am unable to get the mini fork. I did all the other Avatar battle (solo), but Ramuh.
RE: Getting the fork
# Nov 08 2004 at 4:49 PM Rating: Excellent
31 posts
all i can think of would be needing more fame
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Getting the fork
# Nov 04 2004 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
I have accepted the lvl 65+ battle "Trial By Lightning. Is there any way to get the :Trial Size Trial of Lightning" quest now. I want to solo all my avatars, except Fenrir of course. It does not matter how much I talk to them, I can't get the quest. Anyone have any ideas or is having the same problem?
RE: Getting the fork
# Dec 10 2004 at 5:16 PM Rating: Decent
291 posts
I dont know if you need at least lvl 15 SMN, but I have 20 SMN and got quest. You CANNOT get quest if you are any other job atm, have to talk to NPC WITH SMN job on (I think at lvl 20) if you have accepted the 65+ fights, you have enough fame for the lvl 20 fights =P
If after all this you couldnt get the mini quest, then you might not be able to do it since u recieved a quest already from the same NPC's :'(
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RE: Getting the fork
# May 28 2005 at 7:12 AM Rating: Decent
22 posts
Doh! i wish i read this post before i ended up turning in 200+ cornettes and 70 sardines :P

Logging in to try get the fork when im ON my smn ;S

Edit: And ofcourse it worked. Lost the battle tho.

Edited, Sat May 28 12:39:07 2005
Good avatar stradegy
# Nov 02 2004 at 2:42 PM Rating: Excellent
31 posts
ok here's how i did most my avatar fights....
/ma "Carbuncle" <me>
/pet "Assault" <bt>
/pet "Searing Light" <bt>
/ja "Astral Flow" <me>
/item "Yagudo Drink" <me>
/item "Ether" <me>
/item "Hi-Potion" <me>

4 Yagudo Drinks (YD)
3 Ethers
3 Hi-Potions
{REASON}(dual weild) 2 Hermits wands 50% chance of getting carby back out if something goes wrong.
enter battle feild and go a little past bend and use YD, then summon carby and make way to avatar stay out of aggro range and inch ur way to avatar while mashing assault macro. carby should go straight to him without u getting aggro. run back past the bend a lil bit... while waiting there mash ur carby macro til carby gets summoned after carby comes out wait for him to engage then run back behind crystal as far as u can go and mash carby macro. after he gets summoned wait for him to engage and run past bend a lil bit...use YD when it runs out and do this over and over til ur 2nd yagudo drink runs out {REASON} to wittle his life down so u can use 2 Searing lights instead of three. NOW his life should be at 5/6; when ur second yagudo drink runs out... wait for carby to die. when u summon him pop a yagudo drink and use astral flow right away {REASON} cause u get all hate right now....then when carby hits avatar he takes all hate in 1 to 2 hits. Now run up to avatar make sure ur 'close' hit searing light macro( you dont have to target avatar /pet "Searing Light" <bt> automatically tagets the "partys" mob)...bam carby has all hate take off running to other side of map {REASON} need time for Blood Pact to come back. carby dies u summon him... pop ether and follow carby to avatar Searing light should be ready... and hit searing light macro to kill him.

I've only lost to leviathan and ramuh all others took me 1 try with this method. Hope this works for all u smns out there!

Edited, Tue Nov 2 14:59:46 2004
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A true story and a: What the heck do i do? question
# Oct 31 2004 at 10:04 PM Rating: Decent
35 posts
Ive beaten titan and that took me 2 tries. I atempt Shiva and I die. Then I go for Ramuh. I zone in at Lightsday, and trade the fork.
The battle begins, i run to the middle bend, I cast protect, Carby, and i drink a yag drink. I inch up to Ramuh and tell Carby to attack. Carby start whittling away its HP while i run close to the begining (where you zone in). Carby dies, I resummon and it automatically attacks. Carby dies, I resummon, and it attacks, while I run past thier battle and go all the way to the top. Carby dies, I resummon, yag drink wheres off, it attacks. I drink a yag drink, and run up to the battle. I use Astral Flow, and Ramuh agros to me. Carby does searing light but it MISSES!!! I run close to the botom, and drink an ether. Carby dies, now Ramuh is close to me and attacks. I summon Carby and it attacks. Ramuh is still atacking me as carby is attacking it. Ramuh uses is 2hr, judgement bolt, and carby is dead and I use Hi-Potions like crazy. I resummon carby and luckily it isn't interupted. I use Searing Light again, but this time it hits for around 50 damage. I run to the top. Carby dies, I use a Hi-Ether with a LONG cast time. Then I resummon carby (by now ramuh is right next to me), it attacks, Carby uses Searing Light for 210 damage. I run all the way to the bottom where the crystal is. Carby dies, I resummon, it doesn't attack, i run near ramuh to hit the attack macro, Ramuh's name is in Yellow (WTF!?). I notice that Ramuh's HP is regening hella fast (like 50 Hp/tick) Then ramuh's HP is at 5/6 HP (from 1/6!). Carby attacks. My 2hr wheres off, i have 1 more yag drink, and 2 Hi-Ethers and 1 ether. As carby melees it my mp is draining (so i keep on burning ethers). When Carby melees it to about 2/3 heath I get kicked out of the battle field.

Now I am stuck. I'm in the Cloister of Trials zone with no scrol of instant warp. I try trading my fork to the crystal, nothing happens. I try zoning out into the Boyada Tree place, a monster comese a long looks hard and I run back. What do I do from here???
I have 2 exp in this level (20), and if I try to death warp I will de-level. If I try to trade the fork nothing happens.

Should I try to wait untill the Japanese serveres reset a 12:00 (8:00 my time), and thenh trade the fork????

My Question is: What do I do from here????
What went wrong?????
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RE: A true story and a: What the heck do i do? question
# Dec 10 2004 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
291 posts
Ok, typical what a person would call "bad luck" and in a slight way, it is. Lemme try to get you out of Cloister first: Just log out and wait till u can do quest again. Since you have like no items I assume, you cannot really win this fight, so just trade fork and let him kill you :(
You will HP and then have to wait close to a day I think till you can fight him again, so I would, if u really want to win, raise ur SMN skill as high as you can, the cap, or try to farm a bit of Gil for the items.

Now, you have all the essential items you need, i.e. the Yag Drinks, Hi-Potions, and try to use normal Ethers, no Hi-Ethers cause it heals more MP, so you get more enmity (hate) and the time to use it is loooo~ng. Also, I think that you either disengaged with a macro so Carby stopped fighting (like Retreat) and since you used Hi-Ether while possibly close to disengaged, you were not fighting Ramuh n e more, so (like when Mobs get their health back when not engaged)Ramuh got HIS health back, was still on aggro, and thats where you went down hill.... :(

ATTENTION: Sure everyone says you can use BP 2hrs with less then 44 MP which people say to do, and it in fact does work. Now, for those who do this, you might be dieing because you use SL before you have 44 MP, which DOES NOT allow you're dmg to do 210 like you need it to for killing avatars effectivly, you can win like this, but if you dont have a lot of items (like 1 Yag, 2 Hi-Potions, and like 1 food item or anything similar to this) this will hurt you a lot. You may and most likely will lose battle if you dont have enough Gil to spend on items so that you dont need all the 3 SL to owrk, I use 2 Yag Drinks and use my first one when my MP gets to 70 and then use my drink, use AF and SL, do 210 dmg (since I have more then enough MP {44}) and I do SL once more after my BP goes down.

Now for the reason I did came to this thread, anyone have any specific tactics for Ramuh? I died twice to Shiva and twice to Titan before I started to use this strategy, which helped me beat Ifrit, Garuda, Shiva, and Titan on me first try with this stragedy (except Garuda cause I entered the fight so syched that I didnt notice I had 18 min. on my 2hr.... 15 min per fight.... = forfeight so I dont waste my items, then noticed that I was stuck in Cloister of Gales for a day.... lol Thats it for my looo~ng azz post =P Hope this helps SOMEONE
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RE: A true story and a: What the heck do i do? question
# Nov 08 2004 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
53 posts
most of these fight have to do with luck and this guy you need to be really lucky to beat cause he stun and all kinds of stuff but thats beside the point you just had some bad luck and sometime your searling light misses or does really low damage trust me it has happen to me on a fight with shiva but just keep trying
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# Oct 25 2004 at 8:15 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm going to post what I did to get Ramuh.

He was my first avatar to get, but most certainly not the first one to fight. While I was still learning what to do, and not to do, I've been fighting Shiva and Titan. Well, it's more like they've been toying with me. Practice makes perfect.

First off, I'm a lvl 20 Hume Smn (10 Whm). I have my Smn skill capped(63). My armor consisted of whatever I could get that had the most hps and def. I originally went into these fights trying to max out my MPs. Bad idea. So, I got 2 Shield earrings, Battle Gloves, and my end result was me having 270 HPs, 271 MPs. (I ate a Pumpkin Pie for MPs)

**DO NOT GET UPSET ABOUT LOSING.** That's how you learn. I was getting pretty frustrated about losing to them, and ready to throw in the towel. Don't. Also, don't give up if the fight starts off bad. I'll tell you how bad my fight started off.

Ok, the fight. For medicines and food, I had 1 Pumpkin Pie, 3 Yag drinks (used 2), 2 Hi-Potions (used 1),and 2 Hi-Ethers. I faught him on Lightsday. I zoned in and casted Protect and Aquaveil on myself. I ate my pie and healed to full MPs. I walked up to the second bend and casted Carbuncle, and drank a Yag drink. I went up to the avatar and sent Carbuncle after him. He paralyzed both of us. DON'T PANIC! Go to the bottom where you zoned in, cast Paralyna on yourself, and wait for Carbuncle to die. If he casts paralyze on you again, just paralyna again. I repeated this until my Yag drink ran out. Once it did, I drank another and started with the Searing Lights. This is where things went bad. Drank yag drink, waited for him to come about half way up the bridge and casted Carbuncle. Carbuncle runs after him, I follow, Astral Flow, Searing Light. Searing Light hits for 56. I cried a little. This was on LIGHTSDAY. Anyways, I didn't give up. Ran back down the bridge, waited for Carbuncle to die, casted him again, he went after Ramuh (Your Carbuncle will automatically go after the avatar) used my Hi-Ether, got close to Ramuh and Searing Light again. Hit for 230, and he hit me with Thunder II, or what ever that spell is (didn't do 2hr, atleast not on me) Did lots of damage to me. Ran to the top, used a Hi-Potion, waited for Carbuncle to die, casted him, he went after Ramuh, used Hi-Ether, ran up to Ramuh and did the final Searing light for 210 and he died.

You can only imagine how excited I was, considering my first Searing Light hit for only 56. The fact that most of the match was just me running back and forth while letting Carbuncle attack helped. My fight took a little over 10 mins. Yes, 10 mins, but you know what? Who the heck cares. After so many deaths from the other avatars, I finally killed one on my own, with no buffs other than the ones I could cast.

Everyone has a different fighting style. I'm just posting what I did to get him. I hope this helps someone that's getting frustrated with these fights. The feeling you get when you finally get your first avatar makes it all worth wild.

Take care, and good luck!


Edited, Mon Oct 25 09:21:09 2004
Day matters
# Oct 13 2004 at 4:12 AM Rating: Decent
456 posts
Surprised this hasn't been posted yet.. if you're having troubles, try fighting on either Lightsday (stronger Carby) or the day your opponent is weak against (so Earthsday for Ramuh).

Here's the elemental chart, if you haven't memorized it yet:


Lightning electrocutes Water
Water douses Fire
Fire melts Ice
Ice stops Wind (yeah, can't think of a better way to explain this one...)
Wind carves Earth
Earth grounds Lightning

And Light and Dark oppose each other.
# Oct 08 2004 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
Hey I have a question, I have died twice to ramuh, and I don't think I'm gonna try that third SL strategy again, for the "widdle" down life of avatar strategy, what supplies do I need? I ussually take 1 Yag Drink, 2 ethers, 2 potions. Stuff like that. If anyone knows, or has an even better ramuh strategy please tell me.
Also, how much tenshodo fame, or whatever, is need to take on Levithon? Like how many Zinc Ore Quests must I do?
RE: Ramuh
# Oct 08 2004 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
76 posts
ive received all the mini forks & to date ive only beatin shiva ramuh and garuda but i can honestly say ive done no windy quest at all besides like 2 mhura quest...i only did the tenshodo membership& zinc once...and i got lv7 sandy bastok fame...but anyhow the SL strategy works perfect
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Damn I hate this guy
# Sep 15 2004 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, so I've beaten Garuda, Titan, and Shiva with the 3 Searing LIght method, and NONE of the S.L.s missed on any of those avatars. I get in here vs. Ramuh, and for my first S.L. I'm paralyzed. 1 min left to be ready for another. 2nd time I use S.L., it misses completely, and that's NEVER happened before. It also didn't cost me any MP...so I'm thinking maybe Carby was paralyzed, but that just didn't show on my screen. 3rd time using S.L. (by now I know I'm screwed) it hits, but it doesn't seem to do as much damage as normal. I don't have any clue as to why Ramuh would have more resistance to S.L. than the others, but he seems to.
I'm going to try the "widdle down HP till 1/2 then Searing Lights" method next time I can enter.
I'll post my results.
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RE: Damn I hate this guy
# Sep 17 2004 at 1:25 PM Rating: Decent
2,961 posts
Ok, took him on again. This time I started out doing the "widdle down HP" thing, and got bored, so after my Pineapple Juice wore off, I put on my Yag. Drink, Astral Flow, and Searing Lighted his ***. Neither I nor carby was paralyzed. The first 5 mins of my battle with Ramuh was just trying to let carby take his HP down, and that wasn't working too well. Guess I needed higher SMN Skill to make Carby stronger. After the 5 mins, I 3 Searing Lighted him, and he went down cryin. He used Judgement Bolt once, but I was at the other end of the "arena", and was easily able to resummon carby. For the last Searing Light, Ramuh had hit me and Carby with Thunderspark, and paralyzed us, but Luckily carby still got it off, and we won.

This is without a doubt the toughest avatar to beat, mostly because of paralysis.

Good luck y'all.

EDIT: Oh yeah, took me 8 min 8 sec.

Edited, Fri Sep 17 14:27:04 2004
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RE: Damn I hate this guy
# Dec 13 2004 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
27 posts
leveling smn magic does not make your summons stronger. if it does, then its hardly noticeable...i started fighting the avatars at lvl 20 or 25 smn magic, and my carby did the same amount of damage then as it does now, with my smn magic at lvl 55 or so. The only thing i see it really does is lessesn the chance of the spell being interupted, which don't get me wrong, helps a lot in these battles.
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# Sep 10 2004 at 12:42 AM Rating: Decent
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So yeah, I beat most of the other avatars first or second try once I Figured it all out. Ramuh cheats, he has killed me 6 times, and trust me, Ive tried everything that I could to kill him. Out fo 3 searing lights, 1 or two ALWAYS misses, why I dunno never had this problem, I always use it when im next to ramuh so thats not the problem, he just resist it somehow. Yes I have over 40 MP, I check that also. It just DOESNT work, anyone else have smilar issues, I have spent almost 50k on potions, he is just a @#$@#$@#$
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# Aug 03 2004 at 3:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow. Got him down to 1/10th life before 3 bad things happened at once.

1) Command for Searing light drew aggro on me right as he decided to cast Thunder II. 36 hps left.

2) Yagudo Drink wears off as carbuncle is readying searing light, and I dont see it happen.

3) Searing light hits for half (116) damage.

HP: 36. MP: 0. Carbuncle gone. Ramuh *******

Me dead.

Switched to BLM and messed around for a few hours, then tried to do Ifrit on watersday almost 4 real life hours later. Took ifrit down to 70%, tried to use astral flow, and discovered that when i used my BLM 2 hr, my SMN one was then not ready either-- 1 hr 46 min left. Got him to 50% before I accidentally hit ctrl-esc in a frantic attempt to get carbuncle back.

All in all, a bad first day in avatar fights. May you all have better luck ^^.

Edited, Wed Aug 4 20:03:32 2004
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# Jul 22 2004 at 1:33 AM Rating: Decent
28 posts
This fight is much worse than the rest.

The first time I fought it, he paralyzed me and owned me. Second time too. Third time I was way prepared for this. So he paralyzed me and I used paralyna (first 2 times using paralyna...I was paralyzed >.<) 3 times to get rid of it. Shot off my Searing Light and ran to the other end of the area. Carb dies, recast, everything is going smoothly. Well good ol' ramuh decides the first thing he wants to do is use Thunderspark again, paralyzing me again, while i'm doing searing light. Needless to say, Carb couldn't help but be paralyze instead of doing Searing Light, meanwhile I'm trying to unparalyze myself, Carb is dead, and Ramuh decides he's going to have his way with me. Thanks Squareenix, for raping me.
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# Jun 19 2004 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
320 posts
Hey, just killed Ramuh. I only had 51 SMN skill, but I used alot of hi-potions because I didn't realize that he will paralyze you more then once. Paralyna or a like-potion is a must.
Is it Lightsday yet?
Searing Light
# May 26 2004 at 5:47 PM Rating: Good
You Guys better should know that Searing Light needs 40 MP to be used... No MP, no Searing Light ^^;
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RE: Searing Light
# May 29 2004 at 4:45 PM Rating: Decent
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This is not true. Searing light can be used if you only have say 12 mp. I should know, I've done it. In order to use Searing light you just have to have more than 0 mp.
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RE: Searing Light
# Jun 15 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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I belive it says that you have to have the number of your level times two. So if you are level 20 you need 40 mp, if you are level 6 you need 12 mp. I could be wrong cause I've never tried doing it with less mp.
Is it Lightsday yet?
Detailed guide on how i am doing it
# May 14 2004 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
19 posts
Here is a link to how i am doing my avatars - i have won Ifrit using this method - hope you like it. I havent used it on Ramuh yet but it is a solid strategy so i will let you know.

Update: 5/25/04 This weekend i won shiva titan and ramuh (0ne try each) - along with already winning ifrit. The strategy works and only costs about 4k on my server - hope it helps.


Edited, Wed May 19 19:50:27 2004
46 Black Mage
35 Summoner
Leviathan - Ifrit - Ramuh - Shiva - Titan - Garuda - Carbuncle
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# May 11 2004 at 12:17 AM Rating: Decent
192 posts
Unless you are trying to beat the record,i suggest using carbuncle to attack the avatar over and over till the avatars hp is down at least one quarter to one third,THEN use astral flow->searing lights.it will only take 2 of them to finish the avatar.i was using the fast searing light stratagy for the last 2 weeks,i only beat Titan,i was getting beat constantly,the avatars used their 2 hour on me and the chances of Carbuncle missing his 2 hour seemed higher or he didnt hit fo the total 210 damage to the avatar .
Using my stratagy today,i beat Shiva,Ifrit and Ramuh,in a 6 hour period.i cast Carbuncle 4 times before using the 2 hour,he took the avatars HP down enough.
i suggest using a pumpkin pie for extra MP for the Carbuncle fights.remember,you have 15 minutes to complete these solo fights,i suggest you use it.
Good luck.
30 RDM,20 SMN,20 RNG,12 BST,11 THF,10 WHM,7 BRD
Unicorn Server.
Avatars obtained

Tabmow: lvl 60 Tauren Hunter.
Artisan Skinner 300/300,Artisan Leathercrafter 275/300
Sadus: lvl 37 Shamen
Dibarvok: lvl 24 Troll Priest
Shadows of the Iron Phoenix

Final Fantasy XI (Retired)
52 SMN,51 BST,30 RDM,27 WHM,20 RNG,11 THF,7 Bard
Linkshells: Riven
Avatars obtained:Carbuncle,Shiva,Titan,Ramuh,Leviathan,Garuda,Ifrit
whats Ramuh fame linked to??
# May 05 2004 at 3:06 PM Rating: Decent
2 posts
What fame do you need to get this quest???
RE: whats Ramuh fame linked to??
# Jul 24 2005 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
453 posts
Actually, Selbina and Muhura have their own fame, but it's linked to both sandy and bastok.
Kindadarii (Bahamut)
75BRD / 66WHM / 65PUP / 34SMN
68.0 + 2 Woodworking
19.7 Alchemy

Gluebond (Ragnarok)
26WAR / 18RDM / 10MNK
8.5 Goldsmithing
RE: whats Ramuh fame linked to??
# Jul 16 2004 at 3:53 AM Rating: Default
66 posts
RE: whats Ramuh fame linked to??
# May 20 2004 at 5:55 AM Rating: Decent
138 posts
I'm not sure, but i want to say san'dorian fame, because i have 0 fame in the other 2 cities, and i got this quest. (maybe jeunoan or tenshodo, but i doubt it.)

Edited, Thu May 20 06:54:37 2004
RE: whats Ramuh fame linked to??
# Aug 01 2004 at 4:05 AM Rating: Decent
31 posts
could be really low windy fame, you did do the quest in windy to get smn so hey it might work as a thought, not 100% sure if it even gives fame
#halaryel, Posted: May 01 2004 at 6:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) well once you get an elemental summon you should jump on the next summon weak to that element , and use it Ramuh against leviathan , leviathan against ifrit, ifrit against shiva, shiva against garuda, garuda against titan, titan against ramuh .... might work.... (carbuncle is light)
Ramuh Tactics
# May 01 2004 at 3:06 PM Rating: Decent
223 posts

If you sub whm they get Paralyna at lvl 9...that should take care of your paralyze problem.

If you get paralyze, paralyna it off. =D
Ramuh Tactics
# Apr 28 2004 at 9:55 AM Rating: Decent
2 posts
using the carby-bomb method (not burning astral flow till 60-70% avatar health) i defeated Shiva, Titan, Ifrit, Leviathan, and Garuda all in one day without interruption in about 8-10 minutes each. Using the same method i attempted Ramuh and have since been unable to defeat him for one particularly annoying reason ...

at the beginning of just about any avatar fight, the avatar will use one of its abilities (garuda: aerial armor, shiva: frost armor/enblizzard, etc.) Ramuh being no exception chooses Thundershock(sp?) which is mild thunder based damage and the nifty paralyze affect. Well, it can cancel out carby's searing light, if you were planning on trying that, and has a 70% chance of preventing you from resummoning him to save your ***. I still think that taking your time on these fights is the best strategy and only require slight item changes or timing at the players discretion; however, i have not yet found a way to avoid initial agro from Ramuh or avoid the paralyze affect.

Anyway, good luck to everyone who attempts these ... and no matter how many times Titan sits on your corpse, do not give up.

Ophe - 24smn/12whm 50blm - Lakshmi
Avatar Battle - SOLO
# Apr 25 2004 at 4:24 PM Rating: Excellent
14 posts
Hi, Ok here is the deal with these solo quests..

This Is a CAPPED Quest, *(Max Level is 20)*
Your MAIN Job must Be SMN to enter.

-- And NO, you cant win with any level lower than 20.


Lacia is the NPC Quest Giver,
He is standing next to "Ripapa" who is also a NPC quest giver.

Ripapa the taru
= Tuning Fork of Lightning (Key Item)
= "Mini" Tuning Fork of Lightning (Inventory Item)

The NPC who gives mini-fork is always next to the NPC who gives the standard avatar quest.


Once you have enough fame (same as standard avatar quest) he will talk and you can accept the quest.

To fight avatar:
1. Trade Mini-Fork with "Lacia the NPC"
2. He will ask you to accept, if YES
3. THEY will -Warp- you to the Procrystal.
4. Suggest you cast Buff, and prepare to enter!
5. When you enter, Run Up the Staris
6. Avatar is at top waiting, dont get too close.


I am a level 61 whm, I turned into a lvl 20SMN with proper EQ.

I was now Lv. 20-SMN / 10-WHM and died quickly.
Carbuncle died quickly and it did not give me enough time to recast.

I also had (2) Hi-potions & (2) Pro-Either, only used one of each and still failed to win.

If anyone wins, please let me know.
Thank You

RE: Avatar Battle - SOLO
# Dec 17 2004 at 8:04 PM Rating: Decent
37 posts
Wrong, I've beaten Shiva and Ifrit so far at lvl 18. And I'm Galkan and remove astrals for fight. I take around 10 minutes per fight. Ramuh has owned me twice ><. Judgement Bolt sucks. He used it right after searing light #2 BOTH times. It hurts.
Kojo-Ramuh server-75SAM 60DRG 60RDM (Retired/deleted)
Vipir- 75RDM
RE: Avatar Battle - SOLO
# Jun 25 2004 at 3:46 PM Rating: Default
821 posts
Wrong, nice try though. 20 isn't required.
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42 Warlock <Stonewall Champions>
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RE: Avatar Battle - SOLO
# Apr 26 2004 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
1 of my LS killed this Avatar (Ramuh) by using SMN's 2hr ability with 3-4 hits Ramuh is dead.. ya!!!

the only item he used was 1 pineapple juice.
u must be wonder how he did it...

he told us that he first let the Carbuncle attack the mob and start using the juice and used the 2hr. ability(the SMN's 2hr will last 3min, that's what the web site said) and start using the 2hr. attack. three hits Ramuh is died.. he told us that every 2hr. hit should be around 200+ or 150+ or it's not going to work!!

if u know that u're going to ran out of MP, try to run as far as the battle area... so that u have time to recast Carbuncle while the Avatar on the way to get u!!! (u know since the juice is still giving u MP back....)

I would try to this routine a few time before u enter the avatar fight...

oh he also got Leviathan using this same trick
but didn't work so well with Ifrit cuz the 2hr. hits only like 50.. to 100...damages....
RE: Avatar Battle - SOLO
# Apr 26 2004 at 3:14 PM Rating: Default
sorry, I forgot to tell u that after used Ruby Light your MP will go down to Zero.

so RUN far and fast as u can to outside the battle area so that u can cast Carbuncle.
With your little MP left from the Juice (MP recover)u can still use the Ruby Light!!
cuz your Astral Flow last 3min... hehe
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