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Trial Size Trial by Lightning  

Realm:Other
Start Area: Mhaura
Start NPC:Lacia (I - 9)
Type:General
Related Areas:The Boyahda Tree
Related Mobs:Ramuh Prime
Min Level:20
Max Level:20
Rating
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Items Required:Mini Tuning Fork of Lightning
Last Updated: Wed Jul 23 16:28:56 2008

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Summary

The Rhinostery has developed a new "mini" tuning fork of lightning. Ringing it upon the protocrystal in The Boyahda Tree will open the path to a one-on-one battle with the beast that awaits inside. However, only summoners are allowed to take up this challenge.

Walkthrough

Things to remember:

  • This is a solo battle.
  • There is a level 20 cap on this battle.
  • There is a 15-minute time limit.
  • You can only use Carbuncle.

Speak to Lacia in Mhaura, standing next to Ripapa. You must have at least level 3 fame in Mhaura before she will allow you to do this quest.

If you meet the requirements, she will present you with a Mini Tuning Fork of Lightning.

When you have made your preparations, trade the Mini Tuning Fork of Lightning back to Lacia. She won't keep it. Trading her the Mini Tuning Fork of Lightning will warp you directly to the Cloister of Storms for the fight.

Try to fight Ramuh on Earthsday and do not fight him on Lightningsday

Upon defeating him, you will receive the ability to summon Ramuh to your side.

Strategies

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kinda a noob question
# Apr 05 2011 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Kinda a Noob Question, just started really trying these fame required quests. How Do i Raise My Fame In Mhaura?
kinda a noob question
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General fame info: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Reputation

Quick fame quests: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Quick_Reputation

Wiki has all the info you can want.
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so....
# Jun 19 2009 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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I decided to fight this guy on Lightsday, All I half to say is that it didn't turn out to well. The run was going pretty smoothly, however carby missed not only its 2nd but third searing light I was so mad. Has this happened to anyone else? I would also like to note that my summoning magic was capped aswell.



Edited, Jun 19th 2009 6:00pm by rasputsin
so....
# Jun 22 2009 at 2:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I fought this guy again on earthday, and all I gotta say is victory is sweet.
Just a thought...
# Jan 18 2008 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Though quite a bit different, here was my strategy for beating the avatars at lvl 20. I've had several people tell me not to use this method, but as I killed 4 of them first try and 1 second try with it (Shiva killed me multiple times before I tried this method, which worked) I think it's worth some review at least. Tell me your thoughts...

Job: SMN/NIN
Weapons: duel equipped Hermit's Wands (-50% spell interruption)
Armour: Defense as priority on every slot but earrings and belt.
Belt: Whatever that belt is which gives you -8% spell interruption.
Earrings: Avatar element specific earrings, or defense. Sometimes I had no earrings of even defensive value, so not sure it mattered.
MP doesn't matter for this battle armour-wise so don't worry about it, because you'll just lower your defense.
Food: I always had some sort of crab meat.
Summoning skill: I made sure it was above 40. I think by my last avatar (Ramuh) it was around 47ish, while my first one (Titan, easy as pie) was around 41 or 42. While they did get easier after it got to lvl 45, it didn't make that much difference.
Items: I always had about 5 hi-potions, 6 ethers, and 2 yags. I don't think I EVER used all the hi-potions, and usually only used 1 or 2, but I wanted to be safe, and I knew I could sell whatever I didn't use.
Also, I never fought an avatar on it's strong day (Ifrit + Firesday = 3rd degree burns) and tried to fight them on their weak days. I could tell a difference when I fought on their weak day versus a regular day, but I was able to beat them either way.

Usually I would try to get a higher lvl protect/shell from someone nearby before I got warped over. If no one was around I didn't, and it didn't seem to make that much difference.

After entering the battlefield I ate, then I ran up to where I could just see the avatar. I summoned Carby, drank a Yag, and went to the edge of the circle to sick Carby on it without it aggro'ing me.
Right after Carby engaged it I would run up and use AF, then use Searing Light. [You have to be close to the mob (I was always close enough to hit it with my wands) when you use SL otherwise it'll get out of range of Carby and miss. You also cannot move after using it, or there's a chance Carby will miss. both of these are very important.]

After Carby used SL I ran past the first bend, drank a hi-potion and two or three ethers, and waited until carby was killed (I never rested). If he died before I got all my potions down I would simply summon him again, run out of range and drink the rest. I was pretty much ALWAYS ready (obviously) with mp before my timer was ready for another SL, so I would run back up to the Avatar and use it right when it was ready (being close and standing still etc.).
Immediately after the second SL I RAN AWAY, because I believe all but one of the avatars used their 2hr right away (this is the reason for the first hi-potion mentioned above, because you need full health for it's 2hr). As long as you have full life, it's not the avatar's strong day, and especially if you have elemental earrings etc., you shouldn't even be close to dying (I'm Mithra, so I don't know about Taru...).
This is where your Carby dies very fast, so drink an ETHER first, pull him back out (this is where that - spell interruption armor comes in), run far enough away to not get aggro for using a hi-potion, and use another ether or two.
Now just pull out the last 2hr and whale on it with Carby to kill it. Easy stuff, once Carby even died and I killed it by just hitting it, and I think another time I only got off 2 of my SL's. Your Yag may never wear off the whole fight, but just keep an eye on it. I had 2 just in case.
Also, they kept missing me after they used their 2hr, so even without the spell interruption armor Carby may have been able to come out. I know part of this has to do with being Mithra, but I think the NIN sub duel-equip is a good backup.
Oh, and my evasion was NOT that high, because my main is a RDM and I wasn't very high as RDM by that point.

A quick note for Ramuh: I let Carby hit him a few times before I engaged AF the first time, and might have even let him kill the first Carby as I ran backwards to give me enough time to summon him again before I used my AF. This makes it so when Ramuh uses his shock thing immediately (sorry, been a LONG time) YOU don't get hit with it, and carby either has enough time to recover or you're on a different, non-"shocked" Carby. Believe me, it makes a difference.

Things to remember about fighting the avatars:
1: You must have at LEAST twice the amount of magic points as the level you are to use an Astral Flow ability. This means if you are level 20, you need at LEAST 40 magic points to use Searing Light, though some say 41 magic points. While two ethers with a yag drink in effect will do it, you're not leaving yourself much margin of error (if done correctly, it should work every time though).
2: High-Ethers go off WAY to slowly for these battles. I have used them, but it's just not worth it. Trust me.
3: Don't move after using Searing Light, because Carby may miss, and be CLOSE to the avatar or it will aggro away from Carby. I was always right next to it, and it always got a hit or two on me before focusing on Carby again. Not a big deal.
4: ***** magic points, if you're using Astral Flow you'll only need enough to get Carby out and have him attack with SL. Get that defense up.
5: Be ready for the avatar's 2hr. Just... be ready for it.
6: Breathe
7: Use Macros for AF abilities, and possibly potions as well. Not necessary, but very, very handy and could definitely save your life.
8: Don't fight the avatar on it's strong day, and fight it on it's weak day if possible. Fighting it on Carby's strong day is okay, but as three Searing Lights will usually take it down anyway having the avatar hit you for less damage (especially with it's 2hr) is more beneficial than having Carby hit for more damage.
9: Have fun!

I know this strategy is a little more expensive and quirky, but I defeated four of the low level avatars with my lvl 20 SMN my first try with it, one my second, and only Shiva took me more because I wasn't using my strategy with her to start. Everyone told me Ramuh was a ****, but he wasn't that hard at all for me... and I think even paralyzed me before I used my AF once.
If your club skill is capped you can even do some "decent" damage dual-wielding if it's not dead after your third Searing Light (I killed off two avatars this way, though I don't think my club was capped).

I hope this helps! SMN is a ton of fun so good luck to all of you!

Edited, Jan 19th 2008 4:45am by Middlemanpower
Ramuh Strategy FTW!
# Jan 15 2007 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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I basically followed the technique used in the Avatar Section of http://www.summoner.info/ … GREAT! site btw I recommend checking it out… its got pics and all… answers a lot of questions and then some…

With Ramuh… strat changed just a little bit… and I always try to ask for Shell or Shell 2 from friends or ppl in the area before getting warp to specific cloister cus it does help… started off same tho with crab or fish mithkabob, protect, and aquaveil before trading mini fork to protocrystal… <just as a side note: remember to trade mini fork to protocrystal or u will enter the normal uncapped fight>… go to bend, pop a pamama au lait, cast carby, pop a yag… run to edge of pit… use assault then run away to bend… Ramuh will do Thunderspark at start everytime and it will paralyze u (even if ur very far)… cast paralyna (or remedy) while carby keeps it interested… wait for carby to die then cast carby again… once carby goes after it go with him… use Astral Flow… then Searing Light… <make sure u are near enough when u do Searing Light or else it will not hit>… /em gets reminded why he died from Ifrit… anyways… once SL goes off run back up to pit, pop an ether and I stress ETHER!!! or Ether +1 cus Hi-Ethers take way too long to cast… pop a Hi-Potion (if u need it… but better safe than sorry)… wait for carby to die cast carby… use Searing Light… run down to bend… pop an ether… pop a Hi-Potion... <watch ur yagudo drink… if it wears use another… u always want refresh up or else carby will disappear once u do Searing Light>… once carby dies cast him again and do ur final Searing Light… now this is where it gets interesting… a lot of ppl have said 3 Searing Lights isn’t enough to kill Ramuh and I’ve seen it… I even killed this <******* Sword> on Lightsday when carby is most powerful… if and when he doesn’t die from 3 Searing Lights u will need to be creative by either nuking him with Banish, which is what I did <extra ethers come in handy at this point> or get out carby again and try to beat him to death literally... hopefully anyone reading this can kill him by just using 3 SL’s but if by chance u cant good luck LOL! U’ll need it!

Ramuh 1/2
Shiva 1/2
Ifrit 1/2
Leviathan 1/2
Garuda 1/2
Titan 1/1

That site again is http://www.summoner.info/ … make sure u check it out…
Elemental Day!
# Jan 10 2007 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Just as a little side note... ull wanna do this on Earthsday! Happy Hunting!
Hmm
# Oct 26 2006 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
a looong time ago I got smn to 20 and went 1/3 on Garuda (I was a noob, was the hardest thing I had ever done to defeat her) because I wanted to use her in a BCNM. Well now I'm looking to do Mercurial Kris BCNM and I need Ramuh, so I go buy a few pieces of gear, not much. I had done /nin for Garuda but wanted /whm for Ramuh for Paralyna. So I buy 4 yag. drinks, 3 ethers (meant to get hi-ethers ><) and 3 hi-potions. Go in buffed... run up to where I can see him, I recalled people saying that they agro magic so summoning carby in range will get them to come after you, without you having to take hate w/ Assault. Don't try this strategy with Ramuh... He starts with Thunderspark as well documented... and paralyzes my Carby summoning >.> So... I'm like "gawd I'm fooked"... start trying to cast again... he swings and misses (Mithra w/ +10eva from gear). swings again and hits but aquaveil and hermit wand do their thing. Carby engages and I run down to bottom, about 170hp which is slightly high for potion but low if I get caught in JB. So I go about doing the thing... and twice get caught in thunderspark, but both times paralyna goes off without a problem. At about 80MP I cast a fresh carby, and AF... when he gets close, SL (My summoning magic lvled to 57 during the fight... not capped) for 210... he's got about 1/5 life. So I run up, use my ether... and I'm like... ************* 20mp!?" so I'm confident I'm screwed... carby's about dead, got like 40mp, yag drink up but only enough HP to survive about 2 melee hits. So I get carby out and he misses -_-. Twice -_-;; so I take 1 hit... second one misses. finally Carby takes hate off me and I go to SL second time... still 1 second, heh. Second SL is unresisted as well, and Ramuh falls. ^^

This is one stupid thing I did that may help people to NOT do... when I had summoned carby and Ramuh was coming at me, I would run past him, and a few times take hits because of either TP moves or carby failing to take hate. In retrospect that could have been avoided if I was more patient and let Carby run out to greet Ramuh. Also, while I'm personally an advocate of the /nin strat, I'd say /whm is better here. I had a Remedy on hand just in case, but Paralyna really is a life saver. Good luck!
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DARN U RAMUH
# Aug 29 2006 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I'M LIKE 0/5 ON THIS FIGHT DARNIT DARNIT DARNIT DARNIT >:|
Not too bad
# Apr 11 2006 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
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This fight is cake as long as you remeber that he will paralyze you and carby right off the bat. Just send him in, run away, paralyna, and wait for carby to die. Then you can proceed as normal with 3xSLs. Did it on lightsday just to make sure. He never even used Judgement Bolt once.
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4%
# Apr 02 2006 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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i did this today and brought ramuh down to 4% hp before he killed me.....on watersday! O_o
now i just regret that i didn't wait for lightsday ; ;
but he's mine tomorrow hahahahHAHAHAHA!!!!....lol


edit: srry for double post >_<

Edited, Mon Apr 3 07:33:09 2006
4%
# Apr 02 2006 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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i did this today and brought ramuh 4% hp before he killed me.....on watersday! O_o
now i just regret that i didn't wait for lightsday ; ;
but he's mine tomorrow hahahahHAHAHAHA!!!!....lol
um 21 damage searing light?
# Jan 10 2006 at 3:34 AM Rating: Decent
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So far with all the avatar fights... they have gone exactly as i have expected. Everyone in my LS seems to be doing Smn at the same time and i was the last to hop on the wagon.

While they all were complaining about how hard the avatar fights were i was talking crap telling them how i was going to sweep them like no tomorrow, so far so good until Ramuh.

To begin, i went in with only a single hi-potion, whoops. I figured ah whatever, ill work around it, i usually dont need that much health anyways. So i go in pop my crab/yagudo drink/protect/aquaveil and head on up. For one Ramuh didnt aggro me until i was looking him in the face, i could have sent carby out to get killed a good first time for extra damage but whatever. so i engage, BOOM paraylsis, (i hadnt read up on ramuh feeling confident over all my other victories) no biggie, paralyna worked fine. 2 hr, first searing light! a good one claims just about 50% off Ramuh. i run like **** back for the bottom and started my hi-ether (normals were sold out at ah, and was too lazy to find a vendor) i get mp back, ramuh comes down the hill after making short work of worthless carby. i get carby back out after 2 interruptions and hit my 2nd searing light, drops Ramuh to about 25%. by this point i hit my one hi potion i had and got to about maybe 150 hp. Ramuh blasts carby with 2 hour as i bolt up the hill. another long wait on a hi-ether and ramuh is back. So i get carby out and ready, 10 seconds left on blood pact while ramuh is beating on me, im down to about 50 hp and finally get off searling light. So i begin to do my victory dance when i see the number 21 pop over the bad boys head.

O_o is about what i looked like at this point im sure.

whats all this nonsense about 3 searing lights finishing off any avatar? What is the damage based off? after this fight i am going to run some tests to determine if current hp has anything to do with searing light damage because i had the fight in the bag until that little mishap.

moral of the story is: Dont dance till the cutscene my friends.
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avert your eyes!
# Nov 07 2005 at 8:04 PM Rating: Decent
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if you are going to try this just be ware of paralyze that is it! these posts will instill the fear of the heavens in you and you will panic! happened to me and i completely bumbled SL #2 and #3. macro paralyna and bring an aluit thats all you need to know do not read the other posts or you will freak out! seriously!
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# Dec 19 2005 at 8:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Midway of Valfor here:

I have to agree with Septh's post. Ramah can be hard as **** if you are not prepared for his Thunder Spark (which he uses often). Here's what I did to counter his Thunder Spark (TS): First, I waited for TS (because I knew it would be Ramah's 1st attack) and countered it with a Remedy, use AF followed by SL.

After that, I used the same strategy I use for the other avatars keeping a close eyes out for his TS again. Mulsum works great for keeping your MP above 44 (when preping for your 2nd or 3rd SL). I did a combination of Ether followed by Mulsum to keep from using up all my Ether.

Second, I made it a point to keep my HP above 200 just in case he used his 2hr (Judgement Bolt) to end the battle.

I managed to get off all 3 SL's with plenty of time (and HP) left over. I beat him in 4 min & 6 secs.

I had all possible Spell Interuption and Evaision gear, and buffed using Aquavail, Protect, and Blink (Garuda).

Here are the supplies I brought along.

Hi-Potion X 5 (only used 3)
Ether X 5 (only used 2)
Remedy X 5 - works alot better then Paralyna (only used 3)
Yagudo Drink X 1
Steamed Crab X 1 (25% Def Enhance)
Mulsum X 12 (only used 4, just a clump of these will last for a loong time, and they're really cheap.

Remedy is very expensive but worth every penny.

Hope this post helps.

Good Luck!!!

Edited, Mon Dec 19 21:01:46 2005
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RE: avert your eyes!
# Nov 15 2005 at 2:29 AM Rating: Decent
this guy aint joking i just did this and the paralize messed me all up i set up my macro's before i went in and i for got one thing... the " " around the searing light and astral flow... got owned fast too. I relized what i done and so i tryed to manuly do it but after i hit parlyna....he did it again. So when i hit the searing light... you get it dam the paralyze >.<
ramuh mad hard
# Oct 21 2005 at 6:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I tried to kill him twice with very little preperation only like 1 ether 2 hi pot and 2 yag drink on earthsday twice, once i always killed him but the other time my 2 searin light hit for a nasty 110 :( i got massacred. But now imma get protect2 shell+boiled crab+evasion+light res+ 2 ethers+4 hi pot+2 yag drink+traiders armor and hopefully ill win, i rly want thunderspark for qufim and judgement bolt MB snippers and pugs :D
By far the Toughest Avatar battle for me
# Jul 05 2005 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay I finally beaten all if the lv 20 Avatar battles tonite. Ramuh was by far the toughest for me, it took me 7 tries. I used the strategy that was posted on KTSummoner. and it worked wonders with every other battle except Ramuh. I'm also got the new record time on Leviathan server in Titan, Leviathan, and Ramuh(even though he took me 7 tries lol). The biggest headache from this guy is that he paralyzes you which causes me to have trouble summoning carbuncle the 2nd time. and that throws things off completely. When I finally beat him. Paralyze didnt effect my casting, so therefore my strategy worked. if you want to try this strategy, go to http://www.summoner.info/ it worked great for me.

Results for avatar battles were

Shiva 1/1 time 4:26
Ifrit 1/1 time 4:32
Titan 1/2 (forgot to bring ethers first time lol) time 3:27 (Record on Leviathan Server)
Garuda 1/2 (accidently fought Garuda Prime first time) time 4:03
Leviathan 1/1 Time 3:35 (Record on Leviathan Server)
Ramuh 1/7 Time 3:25 (Record on Leviathan Server)
RE: By far the Toughest Avatar battle for me
# Sep 16 2005 at 1:52 AM Rating: Decent
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hey good job on ramuh u beat my record which is 3:51 on lvl 20 i am the record holder on slyph but gj u beat me lol
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# May 28 2005 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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As far as dealind with the paralyze effect from Thunderspark, I've found that using a Remedy gets rid of it no problem without geting interrupted at all. The downside, Remedies are EXPENSIVE (10k per stack on Titan). So if you cn afford it, this will let you sub nin and have 2xHermits wands.

Good luck to all.
Retry timer?
# May 05 2005 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Whats the time inbetween retrys on these guys? I died to Ramuh Forgot to use my 3 Hi potions lol i wanna get him dead this time >.>

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# Mar 30 2005 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
I've also had problems fighting this avatar. So far, I've only been defeated by Ramuh and Garuda.

The second time I tried, I went in with 5 Hi-Potions, 3 Hi-Ethers, 3 yag drinks, and 1 Shallops Tropicale. I didn't have anyone to cast high level buffs on me, so I only had protect and aquaveil. So I trade my fork, and get warped. I eat my Shallops, and cast my buffs, and regain MP, then I trade the fork to the crystal and enter the battlefield.

I run up to the bend, and summon carbuncle, and drink my drink, then run up and assault Ramuh. He answers back with Thunderspark. Not unexpected. I let carby pummel him, and run down to the zone and cast paralyna. Took 3 tries but got it off. By this time, Carby was dead, so I resummon. He automatically attacks Ramuh as he comes down the path. I use my 2hr and burn off a SL. 210 damage. I'm happy. I run up to the protocrystal, and wait for carby to die. Actually, only got halfway up, when Ramuh opens up with Thunder II and wastes carby. Fortunately, I was able to resummon and use a Hi-Ether. second SL was ready, so I burn it off. another 210 dmg. Ramuh was almost mine! But then the unthinkable happens...
Ramuh casts Judgement Bolt. I'm out of the way, but carby is toast. so I resummon. Carby comes back but I still have 10 seconds to my last SL. So me and carby both melee vs. Ramuh, hate going everywhere. I use my last SL and CARBUNCLE MISSES!!!! I checked the log afterward, no one was paralyzed at all. AFTER Carby misses, Ramuh casts thunderspark again. Now I'm running frantically, trying to cast paralyna, Carbuncle dies and Ramuh is chasing me down the path. he catches me at the turn and totally thrashes me.

I'm now completely broke, as the meds and foods cost me nearly 30k on Cerberus (3k for Hi-potions, 3k for Hi-Ethers{and ethers, oddly}, 2k for yag drinks. 1k for boiled crab {2k for steamed or 6k for shallops}) At these prices, fighting these avatars are nearly not worth it. I've gone through 300k trying to get them. Fortunately for me, I'm only two battles away from being finished. But come on, there's got to be a cheaper and easier way....

Titan: 1/1
Leviathan: 1/2
Ifrit: 1/1
Shiva: 1/1
Garuda: 0/1
Ramuh: 0/2
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# Mar 20 2005 at 9:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, there's no doubt about it... these fights are UNBELIEVABLY annoying. Don't worry though you WILL eventually get throught them, and the reward is worth the effort =)

Okay so after getting my **** kicked numerous times when I first started out, I've developped what has become an almost 100% successful method for these battles.

Now it costs a lot (depending on your server, for me this method can cost from 15k to 22k PER fight on Asura).
Here's what you need:

Potion X 5
Hi-Potion X 2
Ether X 5
Yagudo Drink X 3
Selbina Milk X 12 (just a clump of em will last for a loong time, and they're cheap too, only about 200G for 12)

Okay so very simple strategy. Get your hand on a Hermit's Wand and ANY other equipment that lowers spell interuption rates (like Heko Obi +1 for example), the rest of your equipment try to find things that raise your EVAsion stats, otherwise anything with the highest defense.

Now, when you enter the battlefield IMMEDIATELY cast Protect and Aquaveil (if using a SMN/WHM, I haven't tried any other combo), or you can try to get a Protect II or III from some nice player before entering the battle. Now having macros set for these fights helps a lot (I will post my macro list right after this).

Run up the ramp until you can see the avatar in the distance and cast Carbuncle right away. Use a Yagudo Drink RIGHT AWAY after summoning (it restores MP).

Use assault of the avatar where you summoned Carby (MAKE SURE that the avatar if busy with Carbuncle before moving) now run to the top and hide beside the crystal. Try to run far enough away so you no longer target the avatar and you can no longer see Carbuncle's health, only his name, you know then you are at a safe distance.
Now that you have a chance, use the Selbina Milk (it gradually restores HP). Be very alert during these battles, and restore anything that wears off if you feel you are safe to do so.

After a minute or so Carbuncle will be defeated by the avatar. DO NOT PANIC, this will happen MANY times during the fight, so get used to it. When you see Carbuncles name dissapear from the bottom of the screen summon him again RIGHT AWAY, DO NOT WASTE TIME. Once he pops out again, mash the Assault macro, and once the avatar has targeted Carby again, run back to the place you summoned Carby for the first time (a lot of people say to run back down to where you enetered the battlefield, personally I found this a waste of time, and it actually caused me MORE difficulty, so just do what you feel comfortable with).

Keep letting Carby get wooped until you either:

A) Have the avatar's health down to about 3/4's
OR
B) Have less that 70 MP remaining.

Now's when you break out the 2-Hour.
Once Carbuncle has been freshly summoned, let the avatar come close to you and use Astral Flow, it WILL come after you, but don't worry. Now hit the Searing Light macro, and WAIT until Carby hit it before running away, otherwise you'll completely miss the target. This is EXTREMELY important!!! USE at LEAST 2 or 3 ethers IMMEDIATELY!!! Otherwise Carbuncle will dissapear due to lack of MP, and you will most likely DIE! After using the Ethers run to a safe spot (as mentioned before by viewing only Carby's name nd the bottom) and use potions as needed (Hi-potions if in the yellow and regular potions if you are below 75%HP).

Make sure you have at least 40MP remaining and continue the "Carby dies, you re-summon" method until you can re-use Searing Light. Follow the same directons as before, stay CLOSE to the avatar and wait for Carby to use it.

Using this method, the second Searing Light should do the avatar in. If for some reason it doesn't, then follow the same directions as before, and pray you have enough time to get another Searing Light in before the 2-Hour wears off.

And there you have it! This method has worked for me 90% of the time. Why 90%? Because I once continued hitting the wrong macro thinking there was some glitch with the game rather than using Searing Light, which lead my 2-hour to expire and Shiva to kick my bum. Other than that extremely stupid mishap, I've won every other time.

Don't worry you CAN do it! It just takes practice, it's very rare that anyone can get an avatar on their first try. Good luck!
RE: Need help?
# Apr 13 2005 at 10:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's the Macro list I promised:

1. Carby (/ma "Carbuncle" <me>)
2. Astral Flow (/ja "Astral Flow" <me>)
3. Searing Light (/pet "Searing Light" <bt>
4. Potion (/item "Potion" <me>)
5. Hi-potion (/item "Hipotion" <me>)
6. Ether (/item "Ether" <me>)
7. Milk (/item "Selbina Milk" <me>)
8. Assault (/pet "Assault" <bt>)

Now in case you're wondering <bt> isn't a typo... it target the closest mob, so you don't have to target the avatar all the time.

One thing I forgot to mention before...
Sometimes Carby dies too quickly, and you cannot summon him again from a safe distance. The avatar WILL come after you and WILL interupt your summoning. Here's where the Hermit's Wand and the Heko Obi+ 1 come in handy, as well as any equipment that raises evasion (like Scentless armlets or Compound Eye Circlet). Raising your SMN Magic skill will also help with this situation, you'll want to try to get it to at least 40 before attempting these battles, it doesn't take too long, and it helps quite a bit.

Don't worry, it'll happen at one point with at least one of the avatars you fight. Don't lose it, just keep trying to summon and eventually (hopefully) Carby will pop out.

I wish you the best, any questions feel free to contact me at lion_heart3050@pol.com or just send a message online to Svalitz (Asura server)

Good luck!
RE: Need help?
# Oct 25 2006 at 11:21 PM Rating: Decent
Hmm. I think <bt> stands for battle target. It's not necessarily the closest monster, it's whatever one is claimed or possibly agro? If I'm wrong about that someone should correct me, but I think that's how it works.
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Beat him today
# Jan 05 2005 at 7:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Took this guy down today . Subbed Ninja , used 2 daggers , cut through him like butter . Piece of cake . Did Searing Light right away and he went down to half his HP . By then my TP was 100% and I used my Gust Slash , then he was at 25% HP and I Gust slashed him again . Killed him right away . I keep forgetting I need 40 mp for searing Light to work , otherwise he would of gone down faster .
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Hmmm
# Dec 12 2004 at 11:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I have to agree with a few posts: Calm the nerves once you get in the fight. I know you're all thinking "nerves? I'm not gonna get nervous." But it happens. Do something stupid and you'll die ^^ (with no xp loss, I might add). I went into the fight with a potion, hi-potion, hi-ether (all ethers were sold out >_<), and 2 yag drinks. Most important points for the fight:

1. Calm down. Turn on your favorite music, turn off FFXI's (although the battle music is pretty cool), and just kinda chill when you first get in the fight. Do your buffs, and wait for the mp to regen. This allows for your nerves to calm down a bit.

2. Only do Searing Light when you have over 44 MP. I failed to do this and lost the fight because of it.

3. Don't give up. The worst thing that happens is you die. That means you lost ~5k in gil (which takes what, 20 minutes MAX to recover) and 0 XP. However, like a couple of earlier posts, if you hit Ramuh with dia, he just might die from it after you're dead. ^_^

This forum is filled with good stratagies, so read them for tatics.

Just my two gil.

Update: Just fought him again. Went in with 3 yag drinks, 2 ethers, 2 hi-potions. Came out: 1 ether, Ramuh ^_^ Ran up, casted Carby at last turn before the top and then spammed Assult. Carby ran and attacked Ramuh. He immediately started casting thunderspark. Paralyzed. >_< Got that off, and the proceeded to let carby hit him until carby died. Recasted and then started running away again. Did that once more, then did Astral Flow. Hit Ramuh with 2 SLs and tried to hit for a third, but had under 44 MP. (didn't look). Of course it missed, so I started whacking him with my little club. Hate was trading between me and carby, so I used the two Hi-potions to keep me alive. Bam, Thunderspark again, but this time He was under 1/8th life, so I didn't even worry about paralyna and just kept whacking. A minute later (or what felt like a minute), He's mine ^_^. These almost seem unfair if you use AF and SL. Of course, you need to be out of range for the Prime's 2hr, of course (that's what Carby is there for ^_^). So with enough Yag drinks and potions, you should just be able to have carby beat them to death.

Ramuh: 1/2

Edited, Mon Dec 13 19:43:48 2004
i cant win
# Nov 19 2004 at 5:37 PM Rating: Decent
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WTF....im am now 0/7 against Rumah.I beat Shiva,Titan and Ifrit all on my first try.I am doing the 3 SL method, but after the second I always get 2hr'd. Kills carby and takes my hp down to the red...can never recover after that. Maybe i should just try to beat him to death. If you have any suggestions, i would greatly appreciate them.
Ramuh
# Nov 04 2004 at 8:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Someone please help me out. I have tried to solo Ramuh 3 times so far. I was teleported to the battle by trading the mini fork. Ramuh kills Carby in 1 hit, and then tracks me down and hits me for 580 damage. How do you ppl fight it for 8-10 minutes? What have I done wrong? Plz help. Reply or e-mail me at trashmail001@comcast.net.

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RE: Ramuh
# Nov 05 2004 at 4:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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u also need to trade the mini fork to the big crystal as well or else u fight the high lvl avatars ><
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Getting the fork
# Nov 04 2004 at 12:51 PM Rating: Decent
I have accepted the lvl 65+ battle "Trial By Lightning. Is there any way to get the :Trial Size Trial of Lightning" quest now. I want to solo all my avatars, except Fenrir of course. It does not matter how much I talk to them, I can't get the quest. Anyone have any ideas or is having the same problem?
RE: Getting the fork
# Nov 04 2004 at 1:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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you need to have at least a 15 smn and talk to the guy next to the little taru for the mini fork "lvl 20 cap fights"
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RE: Getting the fork
# Nov 05 2004 at 6:30 PM Rating: Decent
I did that already, but I am unable to get the mini fork. I did all the other Avatar battle (solo), but Ramuh.
RE: Getting the fork
# Nov 08 2004 at 4:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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all i can think of would be needing more fame
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Getting the fork
# Nov 04 2004 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
I have accepted the lvl 65+ battle "Trial By Lightning. Is there any way to get the :Trial Size Trial of Lightning" quest now. I want to solo all my avatars, except Fenrir of course. It does not matter how much I talk to them, I can't get the quest. Anyone have any ideas or is having the same problem?
RE: Getting the fork
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I dont know if you need at least lvl 15 SMN, but I have 20 SMN and got quest. You CANNOT get quest if you are any other job atm, have to talk to NPC WITH SMN job on (I think at lvl 20) if you have accepted the 65+ fights, you have enough fame for the lvl 20 fights =P
If after all this you couldnt get the mini quest, then you might not be able to do it since u recieved a quest already from the same NPC's :'(
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RE: Getting the fork
# May 28 2005 at 7:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Doh! i wish i read this post before i ended up turning in 200+ cornettes and 70 sardines :P

Logging in to try get the fork when im ON my smn ;S

Edit: And ofcourse it worked. Lost the battle tho.



Edited, Sat May 28 12:39:07 2005
Good avatar stradegy
# Nov 02 2004 at 2:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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ok here's how i did most my avatar fights....
{macros}
/ma "Carbuncle" <me>
/pet "Assault" <bt>
/pet "Searing Light" <bt>
/ja "Astral Flow" <me>
/item "Yagudo Drink" <me>
/item "Ether" <me>
/item "Hi-Potion" <me>

{Items}
4 Yagudo Drinks (YD)
3 Ethers
3 Hi-Potions
{Job}
smn/nin
{REASON}(dual weild) 2 Hermits wands 50% chance of getting carby back out if something goes wrong.
{Strategy}
enter battle feild and go a little past bend and use YD, then summon carby and make way to avatar stay out of aggro range and inch ur way to avatar while mashing assault macro. carby should go straight to him without u getting aggro. run back past the bend a lil bit... while waiting there mash ur carby macro til carby gets summoned after carby comes out wait for him to engage then run back behind crystal as far as u can go and mash carby macro. after he gets summoned wait for him to engage and run past bend a lil bit...use YD when it runs out and do this over and over til ur 2nd yagudo drink runs out {REASON} to wittle his life down so u can use 2 Searing lights instead of three. NOW his life should be at 5/6; when ur second yagudo drink runs out... wait for carby to die. when u summon him pop a yagudo drink and use astral flow right away {REASON} cause u get all hate right now....then when carby hits avatar he takes all hate in 1 to 2 hits. Now run up to avatar make sure ur 'close' hit searing light macro( you dont have to target avatar /pet "Searing Light" <bt> automatically tagets the "partys" mob)...bam carby has all hate take off running to other side of map {REASON} need time for Blood Pact to come back. carby dies u summon him... pop ether and follow carby to avatar Searing light should be ready... and hit searing light macro to kill him.

I've only lost to leviathan and ramuh all others took me 1 try with this method. Hope this works for all u smns out there!

Edited, Tue Nov 2 14:59:46 2004
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