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Hitting the Marquisate - THF AF3  

Realm:Windurst
Start Area: Windurst Woods
Start NPC:Nanaa Mihgo (J - 3)
Type:Artifact
Prerequisites:The Tenshodo Showdown - THF AF1
Related Areas:Garlaige Citadel
Related Mobs:Chandelier
Mission:6 - 0
Min Level:50
Max Level:75
Rating
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Items Required:Chandelier Coal
Quake Grenade
Items Granted:Rogue's Poulaines
This Quest is Repeatable
Last Updated: Sat Jul 7 14:26:26 2007

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Summary

Visit two of the eight active thieves gathered by the Tenshodo, and confirm the signatures of the people who originally wrote the documents in the "letter from the Tenshodo."

Walkthrough

Note: You must have completed Thick as Thieves - THF AF2 to start this quest.

Head to Windurst Woods and talk to Nanaa Mihgo to receive the key item Cat Burglar's Note. She requests two more thief signatures.

Go to the jewelry store in Lower Jeuno and speak to Yatniel, who asks for four Quake Grenades. He is outside the shop on the bridge. Gernades drop off Goblin Miners in LoO or can be purchased for 7k from some guy in Norg and Bastok or you can purchase them from the AH for around 5k. Trade Yatniel the grenades for his signature.

Next, go to Mhaura and speak to Hagain, who is upstairs in the Sailor's Stay. Hagain gives you the key item Bomb Incense and sends you to the Garlaige Citadel to kill a bomb NM.

Head to Garlaige Citadel, bringing at least four people to open banishing gates in your path. You must check a series of ???s in the zone. They are at:

  • I-9, near the first banishing gate.
  • H-9, just to the west of the first ???.
  • F-9, through the first banishing gate.
  • F/G-9, across the hall from the last ??? and to the east.
  • G-8/9, back toward the banishing gate.
  • G-7, to the north of the last ???.

The final ??? is at I-6 (east of the last ??? on the above list near where the drop off is after the 3rd Banishing Gate.). Clicking it will cause a notorious monster bomb named Chandelier to spawn. The bomb will self-destruct immediately if he aggros before he is claimed. HE aggros sight and magic so be sure to only use ranged attacks or provoke.

IF THE BOMB SELF DESTRUCTS, YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR NEEDED ITEM.

My strat: (me, Israel)75NIN/WAR, (Alora)66THF/NIN, (Studly)75DRK/SAM, (Jocie)75RDM/WHM~(Icemanx)75WHM/BLM(Dual boxing characters). We stood around the corner while THF went and popped and used hide. I used Tonko: Ni then ran up and voked. We raped it pretty bad. He didn't use Self Destruct at all and the DRK had Stun on macro ready to use. When you kill Chandelier, the he drops your Chandelier Coal.

When you get your coal, go back to Mhaura and speak to Hagain. Trade him the Chandelier Coal and head back to Nanaa Mihgo in Windurst Woods. She'll ask you a question, the answer is "BLANK." She sends you to Ordelle's Caves. Before you go, pick up a Pickaxe because you'll feel like a dumbass when you reach the ??? and don't have one. Go through Ordells Caves like you're going to hunt the Brown Belt NM and Stroper Chyme. Zone to La Theine Plaeau. Stay left and you'll reach the ???. Trade/use your pickaxe and walla! You'll get a cutscene and your Rogue's Poulaines.

(Walkthough through Ordelle's Caves: Go to the hole at H-11/12 on the same map as when you first entered the caves, and drop down the hole. Head east to the tunnel at I-11, being careful to not fall off the cliff. After some stairs, take a left at the intersection at I-6. Turn into the tunnel to the right at H-9. Follow that tunnel to zone back into La Theine Plateau.)

Quest Series

This quest is part of the thief Artifact Gear quest series:

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# Sep 27 2009 at 4:22 AM Rating: Default
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Just did this quest and found that the guide here is not ever so helpful.

Apologies if some1 has said this already further down, but i don't think so.

firstly, you have to check the ???s in order. The order above is correct, but finding them can be hard. When you find them, you may need to tilt ur camera angle up so u can check the ??? without it being out of range. when u check it correctly, it will ask you if you want to use the bomb ash. say yes. if it doesnt say this it will either say 'you see nothing special' (in which case you haven't flagged the quest properly), or 'there is a hole in the ceiling' (in which case you haven't done them in the right order).

The bomb fight isn't as bad as people make out, provided you have a few party members. We went thf/nin, rdm/whm, sam/nin, bst/nin, smn/whm - all 70+. Both myself and the SAM needed the boots (you don't need to be thf to check the ???s) so we invised up and stood round the corner while SAM checked ???. as soon as short CS is over, you have just enough time to use tonko: ni (i don't think casting time of ichi is short enough, but i haven't tried). he runs away and the BST moved in to engage.

We chose the BST to engage because he had axe equipped, so if for some reason the tonko: ni didn't work or was too slow and the bomb self-destructed, he could use Smash Axe to stun it (remember to build TP before you start).

Once engaged it was an easy fight. first time bomb didn't use self-destruct and we got item. second time (after 15min wait) we did the same and the only difference was that the bomb self-destructed right at the end of the fight, and we didn't stun in time. However, we still got the drop, so it seems that you CAN get the drop from self-destruct, but i think we got a bit lucky.

If you scroll down the posted messages here, there is a link to a really good THF af guide which i used for this quest. it has maps of garlaige citadel with the 7 ??? points marked on in order which made things rly easy.

Good luck with this, i'm going to kick maat's butt now :)

Edited, Sep 27th 2009 8:23am by gsuk

Edited, Sep 27th 2009 10:16am by gsuk
Ordelle's Cave explained....
# Sep 07 2008 at 12:02 AM Rating: Good
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OK, this part I found confusing in the guide so here it is in full and simplified:
Make sure you have a pickaxe with you and go to the F-7 entrance from LaTheine to Ordelle's cave.Once in the caves, go to I-5/6 and go to next map. From I-5/6 on the next map, head to H-9 and go to yet anoher map.You will now be on another map still on H-9. Go to H-11/12 and drop down the hole.This brings you to H-11. Head east and on to the next map.Zone out to LaTheine at G-10 and just go west till you find the ??? and trade your pickaxe to it and watch the cutscene. Hope this helps all you thieves!! Good luck!
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# May 23 2008 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Spent awhile on this quest and due to the crappy rendition of the walk-through, I went and beefed up the content so people doing this for the first time will go to the right places, in the right order and with the right gear (pickaxe).

Edited, May 23rd 2008 11:17pm by babbott
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# May 21 2008 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Went in after reading the posts here and thought it was a lost cause. But couldn't get my LS to help me so i went solo as Sam/Nin.

So i finish all of the CS's then pop the nm and a prism powder to avoid agro. Next i engaged and hit my 2hr. Yuki > Gekko > fragmentation > Kasha > Light did roughtly 3400 and brought it down about a third of its HP.

I'm think "oh god im dead" but then i look at the battle log and all i see is Miss Miss Miss Paralyzed Shadow etc. The debuffs from yuki and kasha were definitly usefull as always and the shadows absorbed anything else, when shadows were down i poped Third Eye and then recasted.

Was only hit one time the entire fight and took away about 300hp. I was in norm tp gear (which means no eva gear and even a Hauby) so his acc was poor along with being blind. Took about 1.5min to kill him and got my coal.

I tried to save tp for tachi: hobaku for stun on self destruct but he never tried it so i just finished him with a Gekko.

Not difficult at all. Went in expecting the worst and it turned out to be the opposite. GL to anyone else trying it. By my personal experience this nm was {Too Weak}
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# Dec 28 2007 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Solo'd this tonight 75 NIN/DRK,

I started the battle with kingdom signet staff equiped and used weapon bash to stop self destruct, after he was enfeebled it was a pretty easy fight, didnt land a hit on me, got 36 exp and my coal^^
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# Nov 26 2007 at 1:21 AM Rating: Decent
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this how it went down.
we ran around for bout an hour befor actually poppin tha damn NM lol becuz tha ??? bs, anywas we found tha right one i had fell behind from pt so figured they had pop it cuz i seen Ranged attack macro, so im bout 20 feet away, 1.2k healths falls by chunks.. BAM 1 drk goes down, >.> so i figure this mafaka hits hard lol, BAM 2nd drk falls.. so im like holy hell.. then it went to thf, i got there intime. chi blasted it, began to tank, shadows fell put them back up utsusemi ni, and then thf gets blood aggro, and somehow i get hate from it.. 2 mobs swingin away at me. then it does sleepga (skeleton) wipes my shadows -.- bomb his me for 470hp. O.o ichi was to slow, hits me for 500 O.O hits me 3 more times for same amount and i die.. round 1 we wiped. HP'd came back

round 2:
ok since now we know how this mofo works, heres how we did it, x2 75drk's both /sam, me (75mnk/nin) and thf 55thf/nin, we builed tp, ran around lookin for tha right ???, found and pop't, i chi blasted it, and drk stunned, engaged,asuran fist, slap't hundred fists, skillchainin with both drk's Darkness, it wen down fast this time, mnk tank ftw lol, thf got her item we cut out, make sure u got stunners for this bish lol or u will fail with drop, and make sure u got a shadow tanker aswell, or u will be expected to heal alot, hope this help't lol peace
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# Jul 18 2007 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Hmmm Talk to Nanaa, talk to Yatniel, trade grenades to Yatniel.. not many steps to miss and yet Yatniel refuses to take my 4 quake grenades. Tried trading all 4 at once, didn't work, tried trading 1 at a time, didn't work... tried doing it as DRK, didn't work.. changed to THF, didn't work. <.<;
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which ??? ?!
# Jul 08 2007 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
I've been having trouble with the last step of the quest, getting the af piece from a ??? spot using a pickaxe.

The ??? that I was sure is the right one for this quest won't give me the AF piece. All the guides I've seen agree that the correct ??? is in the SW corner of H-10 in La Theine, down in the canyon that can only be accessed through Ordelle's Caves, and that it is in a stand of tall flowers. This is the ??? I've been trying. Can anyone confirm that it's the right one? Or help me find the right one if that isn't it?

PS - yes I'm sure I've done all the steps up to that point properly, I'm only concerned with whether or not this ??? is the correct one.
which ??? ?!
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Best AF link out there gives maps and everything. Someone else posted a copied page from this site but i found this very helpful. It tells you everything you need to complete all of these AF quests.
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# Feb 27 2007 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Just to clarify this guy (Yatniel) is on the upper ledge in Lower Jeuno NEAR the jewellery store not inside -.-
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# Feb 13 2007 at 4:55 AM Rating: Decent
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LOL i just have to tell what happened to me. well party set up was 75pld/nin 75war/nin 75nin/war and 61drk/whm <me>, frist 1 to pop was the war all of us had TP so we all used it XD and it never even tried to blow up ; ;
now we had to wait 10mins till i could pop it so while we waited we were talking and i said "I bet when its my turn it blows up and we don't get drop".
so anyway i pop it and straight away it readies Self-destruct and i couldn't stun it till then nin had provoked it was very close i nearly had a heart attack then we all WS but for me it was last Resort and souleater it hit me once for just under 600 i got down to 17hp XD, but we got the drop ^^
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# Jan 31 2007 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
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# Dec 15 2006 at 1:19 AM Rating: Decent
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This NM hits hard as mofo. Take caution when fighting this guy if your tank is below 65. I would recommend a NIN tank if your doing this with a normal party of lvl 52-60's searching for AF. I helped a THF do this quest and the party got slapped around pretty bad.

First setup was: THF65, DRK70(me), PLD60, and RDM52
This setup got us wiped quick as the PLD could not maintain hate over my Guillotine and the NM critical'd me for 600+dmg then a normal hit at about 300+, rest of the pt went down real fast after that.

Second setup after finding a couple of peeps in the Citadel willing to help:
THF65, DRK70, PLD60, RDM52, PLD75, WHM75
This time it went much better. PLD75 was able to keep the hate after i took the first swing and the THF SATA off of him. After that it was hack and slash and when NM was at 30% i guillotine for 1k dmg and the win.
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On the last ??? make sure to have Hide ready. Immediately after the cutscene use Hide. Then have your party who were hiding around the corner come around and engage the bomb. Kill it making sure not to let it use Self-destruct.
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Really good Guide! with Maps and points!
# Nov 20 2006 at 2:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Great Guide with Maps and points!

made by one of our ls members:
http://www.linkshells.org/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=872&posts=4&start=1

Edited, Nov 20th 2006 at 2:33am PST by Chainspell
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# Nov 11 2006 at 7:11 PM Rating: Decent
Did this today with a 74BLU 75WHM 61THF(ME) 61RDM*. I didn't know bout which ??? i needed to check or w/e but RDM told me the positions and order of them. I don't think order was right but they were definetely places where ??? were. Here is the list RDM gave me. I-9 H-9 F-9 F/G-9 G-8/9 G-7 I-6(BOMB).

OK now the ??? all appear in similar looking corners on map. I-9 is first ??? to check and this is BEFORE you enter 1st banishing gate, if u examined right ??? u will get a CS. After the CS it will tell you which direction next ??? you should check is at, which in my case was H-9 also BEFORE first banishing gate, if it was the right ??? again you will get CS again and told next direction of ???. First two ??? are BEFORE 1st banishing gate everytime i was told.

Now you just go past 1st banishing gate and look for ??? 3-7, 7th ??? is bomb so be ready. It doesnt matter if you check wrong one but it speeds things up if u check where CS pointed u to first. Well for 3-6 u should be getting a hang of what u are doing to locate the ???, there might be more positions i didnt list but not sure. I only needed to keep myself sneaked it seemed but tonko'd up just in case. Sneak doesnt wear when u check the ???'s.

As for the fight i can't really say too much on that except that some other thf group jumped in line ahead of us and popped/hide NM which was left unclaimed but we didnt steal. Anyways that pt died with mob round 55-60% and we finished it off no prob. They were all dead and NM was 1/2 dead so we got, feel just as bad as they did when they took our turn. Blue got hit twice when shadows down for 400ish and a critical of almost 1k but that was that. Didn't try to blow up so all good. Got drop.

Went to mhaura traded item to npc, went to windy to talk to the mithra, went to ordelles cave with my PICKAXE, and exited to la theine plateau near Molborger camp and used on ??? for my THF AF.
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# Oct 31 2006 at 12:19 AM Rating: Decent
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well talking about 2 Mage's Lv 75 and the Bomb was hitting us at 400+ per hit with only Blink and Stoneskin. you have to admit that you wouldn't do it with the setup I we did it as try it Find out for yourself BLM and SMN letting garuda fight the bomb lol every 5-8 Hits you need to cast Garuda
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# Oct 30 2006 at 9:30 AM Rating: Decent
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easy fight, just don't do it at low levels to avoid agroing everything XD
me (THF67)
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we did it just fine, easy and smoth none got hurt except once Djini missed casting Ichi on Ni. no agro at 67 at all from undead was good enough :3
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# Oct 27 2006 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
LOL stop talking about the EASY fight and try to correct that guide.

What about the ??? order?
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# Oct 27 2006 at 7:22 PM Rating: Decent
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The explanation sucks. It doesn't even say you have to use a PICKAXE on each ceiling hole. Well you do, so make sure you bring some pickaxes to the place.

The battle description is also quite poor. But alright with it.
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You do not need a pickaxe for each ceiling hole. You only need to examine them in the right order before you go to the NM's ???

The only spot you need the pickaxe is for the last ??? in la thiene plataue
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# Nov 11 2006 at 7:20 PM Rating: Decent
Only pickaxe i used was in la theine plateau. idk maybe i got lucky??
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# Oct 27 2006 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
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This fight was nothing like any of you described it, me and a thf buddy both of us lvl 58 hired a whm/blm75 and a rdm/blm/75 and we pawned the it just fine, we kept shadows up and traded hate with SA +ws got our key item and broke out, clearing the room was harder then the nm fight itself.
Close to Death O.O
# Oct 25 2006 at 5:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Friend and I Duo'ed this. ( Me BLM75/RDM37 ) ( Friend SMN75/WHM37 ) I knew the power of this NM from the Begining because I did this one before but I had ppl help me with it ok here is the Game plan

SMN Cased Garuda before he popped it
I was Standing by with Stun on pop when I stunned it when it was Red So it was not a Stun on Pull Garuda Attacked it before I got the Stun Off
After Garuda Died Guess who the Bomb Came after O.O Yep me if that was what you was guess because of the Stun I had Stoneskin up and I don't know if Phalanx Wore off or not but I got hit with 200+ then a 400+ 200 was from the Stoneskin asorbed most of the first attack I was down to 50 HP or less my Friend Casted Garuda again and did Predator Claws and Garuda got hate again
we did this for about until it was 15% left then I started to nuke @10% he I started to cast Bind because Garuda was going to die and he would come after me when I started to Cast Bind he Started to Self-Destruct Anyway I was like Oh &^&^ I didn't get the item but there it was we got the item when he Self-Destruct

I Would not Recommend trying this out too Harsh
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# Sep 22 2006 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Alexlitvin wrote:
this thing is stronger DMG per hit than GODS, i know because Seiyru= 290+ a hit this thing just did 600+ to my 75thf/nin....needless to say, I will no longer use this weak site.


No, you CANNOT solo this fight! It's IMPOSSIBLE!

Well... impossible if you're not very good. :P

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/Negativepositiv/pol2006-09-2221-13-33-98.jpg

There are a lot of things that are soloable that are a lot harder than this guy. Sure, he hits hard, but you're a THF. Evade! His accuracy is not stellar and his HP isn't that crazy. Bloody bolts don't retrieve amazing amounts of HP per hit, but they definitely work. If you can evade and keep shadows up, you're fine. I miss-pulled him at first and he saw me and exploded immediately, but that was weaker than his normal hits. The second try I popped him, hid, SATA Shark Bite on him and he never tried to Self Destruct. I had sleep bolts on macro in case he tried, but there was never a need to sleep him. He only hit me three times during the fight and I won pretty easily.

Don't get me wrong, I could see where this guy could give a PLD or a 60-ish party problems, but there's no reason why a 75 THF with halfway decent skill couldn't solo this.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2006 at 1:45am EDT by Negativepositiv
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# Jun 25 2006 at 3:50 PM Rating: Decent
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the NPC Yatniel is supposed to be in jeuno jewelry shop.. he is NOT i've checked every shop in every part of jeuno and he's not there
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He's right outside the jewelry shop, next to your stairs.

/targetnpc Yatniel
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# Jun 18 2006 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Took this bad boy as a 74 Thf. Lazy on my part trying to get my af but got it either way.

But the guy did hit me for 643 points of damage and boy did it hurt. Anyway's only help I had was a 74 blm. Slept it a few times with sleep bolts to get sata off and the rest is history.
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# Jun 18 2006 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Mon Jun 19 03:07:07 2006
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Edited, Mon Jun 19 04:15:34 2006
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# Jun 10 2006 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
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um. no. I popped him twice while all others were around the corner. he flies out, i smack him with my knife, and he self destrcuts. twice in a row. so...he comes out self destructing
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# May 25 2006 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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story if helpful: we had THF75 BLM75(taru with THF AF quest flagged) BLM71 WHM75. i stun> sleep and is self destruct when THF woke it up. next try i invised the taru when he popped and THF sleep bolt it. then we fought it like normal. it used berserk 5 or 6 times and used self distructed at about 15% we still received the coal.
Did this tonight
# Apr 12 2006 at 2:25 AM Rating: Decent
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did this tonight, we were BST75/NIN BST71/nin RDM??/?

called CC, waited for timer, popped it and spammed tonko(there is a lot of time to cast tonko NI, you could probably use a prism powder if you had to), put CC on him while invis and stood back.

CC's hit for about 175 and got hit for about 400 after berserk. We did rampage for about 1100 and 700 after putting the second pet on it and the RDM finished it off with spirits.

The backup strategy was to try and smash axe it if it saw me before i could invis, so it seemed like a pretty safe fight.
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what are the prerequisites?
# Mar 30 2006 at 1:25 PM Rating: Decent
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ive finished all but the body AF and i cant get this quest. do i have to do all or just up to the hat?
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# Mar 14 2006 at 11:08 PM Rating: Good
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"it will drop even if it blows up" ... BS... i pulled by going up and hitting it... the thing blows up right there... and no drop -_-

mt on that lol... thought it said u would get drop if it exploded.. >.<


Edited, Tue Mar 14 22:10:46 2006
Just duo'd this mob...
# Mar 09 2006 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
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The NM bomb is not nearly as bad, IF!! done right..

I just Duo'd this 75Mnk/Nin w/ my gf 75Whm/Smn..

Hit the ??? and after the final select to end the Cutscene I instantly did Tonko:Ni, it popped and started running around like crazy, waited for it to stop moving and then stood behind and engaged it...

Had Ni and Ichi ready for use but the monster has such low accuracy I only used Ni the whole time, got hit for 250 average a few times, nothing a cureV and chakra couldnt deal with, Whm slowed and paralyzed it took our time just finishing it off.
<Easy prey>
# Feb 28 2006 at 10:34 PM Rating: Decent
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ok, i just did it today and this was setup:
THF64/nin (me)
PLD72/war
THF54/blm
BLM75/whm
DRK59/war
DRG69/war
RDM60/blm

we did it 2 times. we killed all skellys that were there ang saved tp. after i got CS, i just run back a little and did a pull with bow while all other members were waiting in the broken leader.

pld just voked and everyone started to hit, i did SA then TA + dancing edge (did 1200+ dmg ^^) on pld, blm only waited for stun, and rdm was healing, we killed mob easily and i got drop.

next fight, the other thf pulled and we started hitting, bombo tried to explode 2 times in a row and we stunned it, but in the 3rd time, we couldnt stun it and exploded, we GOT DROP!!! even when it exploded, so if it explodes u can still get drop. none os the member got less than 700 hp (melees) and mages didnt got hit.

i read a post above where it says this sux cuz it doesnt tell u u had to go back to mhaura, etc etc. well, dont u want a post where it says how to play, and what to do? if u read what npc said, u could had guessed alone that u needed to give back the item so he could tell you the last letter. AND after talking to Nanaa Mihgo she tells u to GO TO Ordelles caves.
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# Feb 14 2006 at 8:15 AM Rating: Decent
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1/4 on this nm, cholo'd it, not a long fight, but when blink was down, he hit me... hard.. very very "i wanna call my mommy" hard.. but on the 4th try i CS utsus. and stoneskin when af3nm was @ 25% because he goes crazy around that time...
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istructions on part3
# Jan 25 2006 at 1:05 AM Rating: Decent
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http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/nav/index.php?act=show&id=ordelles_caves. go to g-10. than zone out from there to h-10 to find to get D bootsy

Edited, Wed Jan 25 01:16:46 2006
Zone
# Jan 08 2006 at 8:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Which zone exactly do you enter first? The one closest to West Ron or the 2nd one?
Fun fact
# Dec 19 2005 at 3:25 PM Rating: Decent
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I just solo'd this guy as RDM75/NIN37 (tense fight) and was annoyed to learn you have to have the quest open AND be THF for the Chadelier Coal to drop.

p.s. On popping him, he pulled his Self-destruct right away but I was able to cut it short by quickly engaging and hitting Flat Blade. I was lucky in that he didn't use anymore Self-destructs for the rest of the fight (many Beserks, all dispeled).

Edited, Mon Dec 19 14:29:50 2005
RE: Fun fact
# Jan 23 2006 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
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He only uses self destruct if he agros to magic. If he uses self destruct, reglardless of if it goes thru, he doesn't drop the coal. So make sure u smack him before u nuke him.
RE: Fun fact
# Dec 20 2005 at 7:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I stand corrected! I took him down a second time as RDM/NIN and he dropped the Chandelier Coal for me (*^^)b. So to correct my above statement, it is possible to solo this or complete it with a job besides Thief^^. There is a possiblity that the coal will not drop though ; ;.

The second time I got creative and after using the Bomb Incense I cast Tonko: Ni on myself (Invisible) and Chandelier did not notice me so I had all of 5 minutes to claim him. Some guides make a big deal about the claim and it's true that if he sees you he will Self-Destruct. If you come across this try this or the above method. Also you can fight him 15 minutes after he Self-Destructs if you are unable to stop it.

Edited, Tue Dec 20 19:39:55 2005
Mages one of the safest bets
# Dec 12 2005 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
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My ls helped me with this NM bomb last night. We had a party that consisted of Blm, Rdm, Whm & of course me (Thf). We got totally demolished in the first round because we tried a head-on attack. It does hit extremely hard (at minimum 550)! On our second try, everyone casted Invisible and I pulled. As soon as I touched the last ???, I used Hide and waited for the NM to settle down. As soon as I used my voke macro, Blm used Sleep II so everyone could get adjusted. Rdm and Blm proceeded to nuke it, and after nuking, casted Sleep. Gravity helps because when it wakes up, it chases the party fast. If the party wasn't ready for another nuking round when it awoke, Sleep was casted again. So, every time the NM got too close to the party, Sleep was casted and the party moved to the other side of the room behind it. We used the same strategy over and over until we killed it. And, we didn't use Stun! Why worry about tanks when you can kill it from a distance. As for myself, everytime it woke up, I just shot it once with my range attack before Sleep was casted. And when my TP was at 100%, I used it either when it woke up or when mages were preparing to nuke. To sum it all up, if you decide to go with a mage party, make sure you at least have a Blm and a Rdm. The spells that we used were Sleep II, Gravity, Blink, Stoneskin, Refresh and Fire III. Yes, Fire III. I saw a post that mentioned it and we tried it after trying the other spells mentioned on Alla. It did almost 2 times more damage than Blizzard III, Water III and Holy! Fire is actually its weakness. I hope that this post will make getting Thf's AF a whole much easier to do. Good luck to all you fellow Thfs!!
question ('.')/
# Nov 25 2005 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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so, i have a question, i was just wondering if can I go to the citadel and touch all of the ??? there (except the NM's one)and leave the bomb for another day. That way if I ask for help we will only have to go to the bomb's place and kill it. Can I? or do i have to make all the way touching each ??? after another? Plz, help a poor THF with his AF quest ^^. Thank you.
RE: question ('.')/
# Dec 19 2005 at 3:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Once you leave Garlaige Citadel you will have to go touch all the ??? again. (*/-\)
Failed...
# Nov 14 2005 at 10:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Try to help a thf friend with this. 60thf and myself 75rdm.
I had no idea what this NM was and was going by what thf said. He pop the NM and he SATA the mob. He got hit twice for total of 700+, I cure IV him and got hate. Now, with Stoneskin, blink, ProtectIV and phalanx, me being a 75 rdm and having Genbu's shield, one would think I can solo this, WRONG!!!!!! I got owned by this NM. I got hit 4 times, each hit taking 250~300hp. I died, the thf died.

So we came back the next day, this time brought a Ninja tank. No problem right, WRONG AGAIN!!!!!! thf pop the NM but I was in a middle of casting Stoneskin, NM pops aggros and starts casting Self-destruct. The ninja died (1364 dmg) thf and myself survived with less then 20 hp left.

Moral of the story, bring a tank, Ninja preferred and maybe a stunner. Don't cast any magic until someone has voked it or at least hit it first. Fun weekend. -_-;;
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pwnd
# Oct 23 2005 at 9:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Solo'd the bomb as 75 smn/whm. rawr.
If you get a smn that wants to do this, avatar out b4 you pop it, bomb self destructs if it gets magic agro'd b4 someone hits it, after someone hits it they can cast, or if avatar's out they can assault the avatar no problem. hits avatars hard after it stacks zerk, had to run a bit with carb while I got mp back and it killed carb in like 4 hits. go all out on it at the start as smn, you can get 2 bp off b4 your first avatar dies, then run cuz it's zerk will start killing avatars in 20-30 sec. used fenrir to save mp cuz i didn't have drinks or food and my signet wore off so i had 50 less mp than normal. fenrir hit for 1000 then 1300 then 1250 used a pred 2 claws in the middle for 2250 and 1550. avatar's melee did around 2k total i think, if not a bit more, i was running so i missed a lot of it but fenrir's normal hits b4 he zerked were over 100. beat it with 14 mp left and at the time i had 1080 to start *no food no signet and by the time the bomb dropped i was close to 1000* 2 70+ smn could duo this no prob and fast. with stoneskin up he hit me through the stoneskin and for 380 *scary with only 800hp* just glad i was able to solo all my af for my next job to 75 =)

fyi: If the bomb self destructs you need to escape/run out of garlige and check all the ??? again in order for it to pop again *ya i know it sucked*

Edited, Sun Oct 23 22:49:45 2005
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RE: pwnd
# Mar 14 2006 at 11:44 PM Rating: Good
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actually... if you wait 15min after you die or it despawns or if it self-destructs, you can fight it again.

just chill out by the spawn point, go grab a bite to eat or something, then come back and try again =D
^_^
# Oct 06 2005 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
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i did this quest as 75nin/whm and a 73drg friend (zeliah) with no trouble.
i put on AF boots, pop the NM then quickly run back and hide behind the corner. invis then engage and start whacking away at it ^^
the fight only took about 1.5mins.
for a AF3 NM, i'd say this one is pretty easy.
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# Sep 18 2005 at 6:22 AM Rating: Decent
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done with 73 drk, 75 nin, 54 whm, and 31 whm(just helping with gates)
went pretty well, prism powder as soon as pop, nin voke pulled with tonko up, although drk missed stun at around 10%, he was the only one who died from it and it dropped anyway. Was quite a pain in the ass listening to him whine for a raise 3 though, if you do merc work its your own problem if you die, especially if its your own fault -.- The nin only got hit about 1/3 of the time, we could have easily duoed it, although a competent stunner wouldve helped, shoulda just had my friend(low 50s drk) come to stun =/
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The guide above sucks... >_>
# Sep 08 2005 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
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That guide is so BAD seriously,this is why:
It doesnt say that u have to go back to Mhaura after u killed Chandelier...
Many THF friends complained about that.
It doesnt say the way to the place for the ??? where u have to use the Pickaxe...
And i can go on and on seriously...
I rated it down sorry >_<
Just wanted to let u all know
RE: The guide above sucks... >_>
# Nov 21 2005 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
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what pickaxe? you are the 1st person to metion it. How about instead of just saying what it leaves out, you fill in the guides holes.
Bah, Difficult? I think not!
# Sep 04 2005 at 10:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Depsite being annoying, this quest was a cake walk. People talk about how he hits so hard and blows up easily. This was not the case w/ me. I had 3 of my friends open doors and i soloed him easy as a 75nin/drk. Granted I got ws'd every 6 secs b/c of Kraken, but hey, whos counting. either way, people make this sound so hard, but it is quite easy.
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# Sep 01 2005 at 1:17 AM Rating: Decent
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ok this was a nightmare.
First time we did this we had 3 thfs one of them 61 and myself 68, The third was best dressed cause I left gear @ home but he was only using VB. I popped the bomb and SA+SB hit his bum before he could agro me did over 1k dmg to it and hardly scratched its health bar. The bomb then turned around and hit me so hard I was in the red. Shame on me for forgetting my gear and having utsi up. Well the three thfs and the whm dropped it. But it dropped the other two thfs. For the most part it could not hit my L68 thf but when it did omg did it hurt. Amazingly enough it never killed the taru whm dispite the curaga IIIs and Cure IVs tossed around like dodge balls. But then again we three thfs where bouncing TAs around like bad checks.

Well my two thf friends didn't wanna do it again w/o help so we got our hands on a L75 ninja and a 72 whm. hexa -> sharkbite -> banish III + Holy just about gave it an aenima - add in a SATAVB and a SATADE + the ninja WS and he was a dead bomb. Repeated with ease.

The L75 ninja never got hit once in either fight. Like I said my 68 thf with jeuno sex apeal gear on (Bonecraft shades, swim suit +1 top and coral pants & legging [looks sexi on hume ^^]) dodged it like crazy. So if your gonna do this forget about pldns, bring evasion tanks. Had I been dressed in my Scorp Harness, emp pin, AF pants and marine boots I'd of tanked it just fine as 68 thf.

I just came back to look see what I do next thought I'd share my learnings.
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THF AF Boots
# Aug 21 2005 at 9:32 AM Rating: Good
pwnd by my static:
BLM75,PLD75,WHM75,BRD75,MNK75,DRG75. But note... PLD (Hume) was taking 200-250 a hit and Bomb Crit. hit him for over 300. His DEF is 700+ with VIT+50 and BRD had VIT songs on him as well.. so VIT was probably around +80ish. This thing was much tougher DMG wise than anything we XP off of in sky... MUCH more. So I'm not sure if they did an update to it or what. But as of August 13th it's alot harder in comparison to what some of the posts are saying. Good luck~! ^.~

Edited, Sun Aug 21 10:58:46 2005
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RE: THF AF Boots
# Jan 08 2006 at 8:25 PM Rating: Default
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sorry wanted to lol @ you
my 74 thf friend and I duod this.. we both never lost any HP and it never self-destructed... i pop it and we stood in corner he started hitting it and told me it was ok to engage and from then on we killed he was 74thf/nin I was 57thf/nin too easy
RE: THF AF Boots
# Nov 11 2005 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
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you bard should have tried to dispell. berserk + berserk + berserk = that damage
Yay
# Jul 05 2005 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Finally got my af :D (some weeks ago <<;)
The fight wasnt hard. Party setup was:
WHM75/NIN
BLM70+
THF70 (me)
WHM60
I and whm75 tanked together =P and finally dropped
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Just beat it
# Jun 28 2005 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
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So, after reading everything about this. I thought I would post how we did this. I was a bit worried after hearing how this bomb wipes out entire parties, so we took a 2 party alliance down there of people mostly over 60 with a 75 RDM/NIN, 72 WHM, and 70 RAN helping out as well. The strategy we used was having the thief activate the last ??? and then immediately use hide. The rest of our party was behind the wall there and our RDM/NIN cast invisible and then ranged attacked it to claim it so it wouldn't explode. After it was claimed, our entire party then began attacking it and made short work of it. I hate to spoil the movie's ending...BUT The only problem occured when our 60THF decided to SATA DE off of our SAM and thus our SAM was toast pretty quickly. The second time around when it was my turn, our RDM/NIN wanted to solo it, so we let him and JUST TO CLARIFY... This bomb can explode even after it is claimed. I had read numerous posts that it would not explode after it is claimed, but I can say without a doubt that it does. When our RDM/NIN had him down to about 1/90th of a life, he decided to explode... killing 3 of our party members. Luckily it did drop the item and I was able to complete the quest without having to fight him again.

We took a video of our first fight and if you want to see it, it is here: http://www.team-rowdy.com/movies/thfaf.wmv

Be sure to watch cloudx in his starring role, because..well....he dies in the end.

I cannot remember everyone's level, but our main tank was our 75 RDM/NIN and we had a full 2 party alliance of people over 60s except 3 people and it worked out very well. I would highly recommend high level help for this, because when you are beating on it, it seems like that bomb never wants to die. Good luck
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Just a tip
# Jun 10 2005 at 11:13 PM Rating: Decent
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For any of you who havent clarified this, this AF requires the following:
A Stunner
A Thief (Duh XP)

The Following things are Recommended:
A Non-Warrior/Paladin Tank
A Bard
A Backup tank(Preferrably a ninja)

With two ninja tanks and a stunner, this can be one of the easiest NM's to beat in the game, the bomb will probably have trouble getting the shadows off one ninja, but when the ninja's shadows drop all you have to do is to have the Thief SATA+VB from the other ninja to glue hate to him, explosions in this battle are deadly, and the boss has lots of HP as well, A Red Mage would always help for Dispel, to keep the Berserk off the bomb(When beserked, the NM hits 75 Paladins for more than the gods do)
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RE: Just a tip
# Nov 11 2005 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
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how about you take that pt to the dunes and kill VE. maybe you will change your oppinion as to what is easy.
RE: Just a tip
# Sep 01 2005 at 1:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't have to have a stunner or stunners either. 3 fights in a row never went boom and if it does it still drops item.

BTW Brds are recomended for everything.
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RE: Just a tip
# Jul 19 2005 at 6:48 AM Rating: Decent
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lol I fyi you don't have to have a thf in pt (=P)
Just need someone to have have it logged and ready to do, I finished it as my SMN and still got it to pop ^^ SO YOU DON'T NEED TO BE THF IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. Hope this helps those that didn't know.

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