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Borghertz's Vermillion Hands  

Realm:Jeuno
Start Area: Upper Jeuno
Start NPC:Guslam (H - 8)
Type:Artifact
Prerequisites:The Crimson Trial - RDM AF1
Related Areas:Castle Zvahl Baileys
Port Jeuno
The Eldieme Necropolis
Upper Jeuno
Related Mobs:Dark Spark
Yin Pocanakhu
Mission:3
Min Level:50
Max Level:75
Rating
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Items Required:Eldieme Coffer Key
Old Gauntlets
Shadow Flames
Items Granted:Warlock's Gloves
This Quest is Repeatable
This Quest requires Zilart
Last Updated: Tue Feb 15 15:01:52 2005

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Summary

Gauntlets wrought by Borghertz, the legendary craftsman, lie hidden somewhere in Vana'diel.

Walkthrough

You must have completed The Crimson Trial - RDM AF1 and activated Enveloped in Darkness - RDM AF2 before you can get this quest.

To start this quest, head to the armor shop in Upper Jeuno and speak with Guslam the galka. He tells you about a pair of old gauntlets, crafted by the legendary Borghertz, that might have been seen in the Eldieme Necropolis.

Head to Eldieme Necropolis and get an Eldieme Coffer Key. The keys are dropped by Haunts, Spriggan BLMs, Spriggan RNGs, Spriggan THFs, Spriggan WARs, Tomb Mages and Tomb Warriors.

Next, find a treasure coffer. Coffers spawn in the main, ground-floor chambers at G-6, G-7, F-8 and E-8. If you drop down from the main ground floor at G-8, you can access coffer spawn points at M-11 and M-10. On that same map, coffers also spawn at L-12 and L-9. A coffer can also appear on that map at E-6, which is accessible from a part of Batallia Downs only reachable through Beaucedine Glacier.

Trade your key to the coffer to receive the key item Some Old Gauntlets. You do not need to be a red mage when you open this coffer.

Go back to talk to Guslam. He will say the gauntlets are work of Borghertz, but he cannot repair them.

You then have to go speak to Yin Pocanakhu in the Tenshodo shop in Lower Jeuno. She talks about a toolbox that won't open. Pay her 1000 gil, and she tells you the toolbox is on a crate outside of the Duty-Free shop in Port Jeuno. Find the toolbox and examine the ??? for a cutscene, in which the spirit of Borghertz appears and asks for Shadow Flames from Castle Zvahl Baileys.

Go to Castle Zvahl Baileys and examine the torch at (F-8). A notorious monster bomb by name of Dark Spark will appear. Kill Dark Spark and examine the torch a second time to get the Shadow Flames.

Return to Port Jeuno and re-examine the ??? at the toolbox for a cutscene and your Warlock's Gloves.

Quest Series

This quest is part of the Red Mage artifact armor series. See the list below to find out which quest comes next.

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quest name
# Nov 05 2008 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
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its actually called boghertz's warring hands
sorry nope
# Jun 15 2009 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry no "boghertz's warring hands" is for the warriers af hands quest..
Thier are many and I "many" quest that use this same saying but with a differnet calling in the middle as of example "boghertz's _________ hands"
my problem is
# Aug 21 2008 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I did PLD gloves before, and I did SAM gloves.

but NOW trying to do rdm gloves he keeps telling me I did a great job finding the gloves... wont give me the quest... i zoned n came back still nothing.

do i gotta wait till jp midnight?
problem starting quest
# Sep 10 2007 at 8:11 AM Rating: Decent
ok I went to start he quest this morning (just finishing the boots). When I talk to Guslum but he talks of finding the gloves. This is the first time I've talked to him since finishing DRK AF. Am I going to have to wait till JP midnight or just zone back in to get this quest?
Repeatable?
# Sep 20 2006 at 7:52 PM Rating: Decent
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How do you activate this quest again for the NQ gloves after upgrading to AF+1?
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# May 03 2006 at 2:37 AM Rating: Decent
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You only have to have talked to Curilla to start the boots, you don't actually have to get them. Which is good, because i think the boots are as worthless as the sword you get for AF1.
coffer locations
# Apr 27 2006 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok just helped a LS member get this and here are the locations of spawn points of coffers 4 on main floor G-6, G-7, e-8, f-8 on second floor there are 5 more and to get to them u have to drop through various hole or tele to vazhl here they are (1)drop through hole at G-8 and they located at M-10, M-11.(2)Drop down hole in area g-9 this drops you into area L-12 wheere the coffer should be very close in that area. (3) to get this one drop through hole in area G-6 wich puts you right in reaching distance of coffer at area L-9. final coffer is located at upper Necropolis through the Glacier and it is in area E-6 (watch out for Nm spawn here) this run takes patience and at least one other person to open doors for you, also make sure you sneak your self and buddy and have invisible for being around the bombs by the door levers. this was a very frustrating thing to find and took like 4-6 hours to actually get completed after this is all done you are ready to go kill Dark Spark for flame it is a lvl 55-55 NM and you should bring help to kill it at least one other person if you are lvl 55 more people if lower id suggest. hope this helps alil cause trust me i know how frustrating this can be also this is a great site for chest and coffer locations for future refemce http://www.speakeasy.org/~sticks/ffxi/treasure/title.html

Edited, Thu Apr 27 08:15:27 2006
not too bad
# Apr 24 2006 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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This quest is cake with a little help.

Party setup was 75BLM, 72RDM, 49THF (me for TH2).
Killed about 4 skeletons and got the key, I aggro'd one more and got a second key. 15min.

BLM used Escape, we re-entered and found the coffer in the first spawn we checked (in the far north room). 5min.

Warped to Jeuno, RDM switched to his 65WHM, I switched to my 53RDM and Tele-Vahzl. Ran to Castle Zvahl Bailey's, buffed up, killed 2 demons near the Torch, and spawned Dark Spark. 5min battle, all of us using Staffs to melee lol. 20min. All of this with 1 minute to spare before emergency maintenence. :) 45min total.

All in all with a little help from higher levels and TH2, not a bad quest.
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# Jan 05 2006 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
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i went after my coffer key this morning. 7 of us went and we split 3 and 4. i got very lucky as the first tomb warrior we fought dropped the coffer key and i was the only one that needed it. easy lot and win.

i spent over 3 hours searching for the coffer chest and one of my linkshell members found it controlling the northern switch. the coffer chest popped at G-7 on map 1 and i was on my way. i no sooner got to the room where the bomb was to watch someone open my chest! there they were.. 5 steps in front of me and i lost. we went back at it and found the new spawn at F-8 on map 1. based on the site i visited and the locations.. this was very accurate. http://www.speakeasy.org/~sticks/ffxi/treasure/title.html

our party was unnecessary with a 74thf, 72sam, 64rdm, 61rdm, 61blm, 55pld, and myself 52rdm but hey.. you can never have enough help lol. as for dark sparks.. cake.. 75drg, 64rdm, 61blm, and myself took him down in less than 45 seconds.

Edited, Thu Jan 5 08:20:54 2006
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# Oct 29 2005 at 4:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Yea, just a casual note that no one has seemed to post here. If this is your second AF-Hands quest, you don't need to pay the npc an additional 10k to find the box.

Yea, it sounds stupid and all, but it wasnt posted anywhere. Plus, it made my day (woo).
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Herrm..
# Sep 10 2005 at 7:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, I talked to Guslam, he gave me the quest and all was well. I walk into the Tenshodo and when I talk to Yin, she doesn't talk about anything AF3 related. She just talks about Aldo and Verena, or whatever that woman's name is. So yeah, that's the case.. the Mithra girl doesn't talk about the crate or the 1000 gil or anything. Do I go to the Necropolis, get my key, get my key item, THEN talk to her? {Help me out!} PM (private message) me on Allakhazam if you have an answer, because in the near future I'll probably forget to check back here.

(Edit: Durr.. nevermind. XD)

Edited, Sat Sep 10 20:25:34 2005
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RE: Herrm..
# Sep 17 2005 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes, you have to get the key and the key item and THEN talk Yin Pocanakhu, as it says in the guide on THIS page:

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After you receive the quest from Guslam go to the Eldieme Necropolis and get a Eldieme Coffer key then use it on the coffer chest to receive "some old gauntlets", a key item.

After you received the old gauntlets, return to Guslam. He will say the gauntlets are work of Borghertz, but he cannot repair them.

You then have to go speak to Yin Pocanakhu
in the Tenshodo shop in Lower Jeuno who talks about a toolbox that won't open. You have to pay her 1000 gil to tell you where the toolbox is at.

Once you pay her, she then tells you she left the toolbox on top of a crate outside of the Duty-Free shop in Port Jeuno and that you can have it.


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Blah..
# Jul 31 2005 at 8:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I completely detest this quest... 8 weeks trying to get the key... over 100 Skeletons killed, At least 20 haunts. It was torture... seeing as the fact I found the coffer over 30 times not even trying. When I get the key, I couldn't find a single coffer.. then as I gave up there it was in a room of death. Affter that, things went rather smoothly, Two great guys helped me with the Dark Spark Fight Shogen(68 Sam), and Demonzd(65 Nin) (I believe it was). Battle went quickly. Did this all in one day when my Linkshell finally decided to help.
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# Sep 15 2005 at 3:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I guess I'm lucky. Went in there with 3 helpers (75rdm, 69whm, 70whm, and myself 56rdm)... got to the room with the human remains... found coffer right away to the south... then got key on 2nd kill. XD
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# Jul 16 2005 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok... I have the worst luck with this key.. so far ive been in 5 coffer key pts and I still dont have it.. ive seen 4-5 keys drop, didnt get high lot on any of them.. *slaps his own face.*

edit: i made a pt for this thing got lucky and everyone else just wanted skill ups.. got my key in my 6th pt ^^

Edited, Sun Jul 17 00:52:20 2005
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# Jun 10 2005 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
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You must also have completed (or possibly just activated (- didnt check) the af2 quest for the boots!
I tried speaking to him before this and he just pointed me in the direction of the counter ><
(He is in the first shop on the right at the big opening btw - armor shop if I remember correctly?)

Anyways, after completing af2, I could get this quest!
I never tried going back to him after activating af2 quest, so you might just have to activate the quest??

Guslam <pos>
# May 14 2005 at 6:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Guslam is located in the "Durable Shields" shop of Upper Jeuno, (H-8)
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Quick Question
# May 11 2005 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry if this has already been answered in the posts below but... If you already have this quest started, but for DRK, and you lvl another job, RDM, and you never finished the quest on DRK, then can you:
1.Even start the quest for RDM if the DRK quest is unfinished?
2. When you pop the coffer, you will still recieve the gloves, and then you go and get the flame, but when you put them in the box, will you get the DRK gloves or the RDM gloves?
3. Can you cancel the DRK quest?

Any info on this would be helpful.
AF1/AF2 armor
# May 03 2005 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
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im hearung alot of INFO on AF armor and AF2 armor but can someone link us to a pic or site that has the actual set.....
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# May 03 2005 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
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im hearung alot of INFO on AF armor and AF2 armor but can someone link us to a pic or site that has the actual set.....
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fame?
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is fame a factor if u get this quest or not. i dont need to worry about it for a few more lvl but i just want to know.
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RE: fame?
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Dont worry - fame isnt a consideration for af armor quests, or rse etc.

You can still activate this quest even if you have NO fame lol
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your right, fame is not a requirement for AF, but it IS for RSE, you need fame to gain the quest for Buffnix (i think its him) in Muckvixs junk shop
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Kill Dark Spark x2??
# Apr 15 2005 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey all,

Got a question. I beat Dark Spark when doing my Thief AF2 quest. Do I have to beat him again or can I go as is??

Thanks in advance - Kerlle
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RE: Kill Dark Spark x2??
# May 07 2005 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
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yes you have to re-kill Dark Spark for every AF. consider it a rite of passage. you dont have to be the designated job; you can kill him as any job that you want. just complete the quest with the Key Item as your designated job.
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# Mar 24 2005 at 12:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Man I am bummed.

I hit 50 earlier today, and once I left the party I was in, I started my AF1 up to the point where I needed to open the chest, which I havent found yet...grr, and I went to the NPC that starts the Glove quest. Problem is I still have the quest for the Bard glove quest active. I tohught this wouldn't be a problem if it detected which job I was, but apparently not.

It looks like I'm going to have to do a Coffer key/chest hunt in Castle ZB, fight dark sparks, get my bard gloves. Then TAke mey Eld.Coffer key and do it all again. O.o Has this ever happen to anyone else? ^^;
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It looks like I'm going to have to do a Coffer key/chest hunt in Castle ZB, fight dark sparks, get my bard gloves. Then TAke mey Eld.Coffer key and do it all again. O.o Has this ever happen to anyone else? ^^;


Yeah, I'm about to go fight him for the 3rd time. I've already done it for PLD and BLM, getting ready to go for RDM. It's getting to the point where the Dark Spark fight is fun and a little sad. The fights are usually over in about 20 seconds. XD
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# Jan 15 2005 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Bah this isnt fun at all. I just cant find any help for a Eldime Coffer Key hunt. ; ; Its gonna take forever just to get help and to get the key. I could prob find coffer fine on my own but i sure cant get key by myself ><
Well maybe ill find sum help from sum people on Lakshmi sometime

Edited, Sat Jan 15 13:23:41 2005
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Sorry im a lil late on saying this but i finished this. Now for my dreaded Garledge coffer......
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RE: My AF 4
# Feb 18 2005 at 5:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, things will be ok, Hir. You're amongst friends. :P
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# Jan 08 2005 at 8:50 PM Rating: Decent
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i have been seeking help for 3 weeks and havenot even gotten so much as an offer of help which wouldnt bug me if i didnt see people shout lvl 60+ im bored ><
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# Dec 16 2004 at 8:44 AM Rating: Default
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If anyone is on gilgamesh server and wants to get a group together then lets activate all quests and get them done, I think all rdm AF can be done in a few days, I have a few high lvls that I can count on to help so hit up (Scripture)!
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# Nov 17 2004 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Hello everyone my nick is Vysen, i'm RDM/WHM 54 on Ragnarok; i like to know if someone is interested in solving the AF4 quest (warlock gloves) next week end (Eldieme Necropolis and Castle Zvahl).

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# Nov 10 2004 at 7:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyone interested on getting together for a coffer key hunt this weekend on Lakshmi. I am a 53 soon to be 54 RDM/WHM and I want my af gloves!!! Send me a tell if you see me online
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50RDM/25BLM, this weekend sounds good, I'll look for you, look for Neally, i'm on lakshmi too.
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Got my key in 1st kill after 1month of crafting i decided to Go get my AF so i asked my Friend Tarutaru lv 72 MNK just got his asuranfists to come help me get it wen went 2 mnks +rdm i was lv 57 go down ther took us like 20mins 1st tomb worrior that well drops the key .... i was cussing the whole LS for they doubting my luckiness
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# Oct 05 2004 at 4:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey, don't mean to sound like a total noob here, but I noticed that you can get the Old Gloves from a few other areas...can any job go to any of those areas, or does each job have a specific area. I'd much rather fight crabs in Kuftal than anything in Eldieme. Thanks for any input!
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You /have/ to go to the Necropolis, unfortunately. Even though every AF1-4 goes in the same manner as far as the mob fought and the events on getting the gloves repaired, each area is designated for each job. ^^; Trust me, I don't want to do the Necropolis either. ^^;;
some basic info
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Guslam (Galka) is located at (H-8) in the Durable Shields armor shop in Upper Jeuno, to your immediate left after you enter the shop door. He will give you the quest for 'Borghertz's Vermillion Hands' after you have completed RDM AF1-1 'The Crimson Trial'.

Next, go to Eldieme Necropolis thru Batallia Downs via the (I-10) entrance (located underneath a hill). As the name of the place implies, this dungeon is filled with the undead, so you will need Sneak for most of your travels thru this area. There are also occasional bombs that guard gate switches and coffer chests, so Invisible may be necessary as well.

A map of the Eldieme Necropolis definitely comes in handy for this quest and others in here, so you should probably invest in that. Promurouve in Lower Jeuno (H-7) at the Chamber of Commerce and Industry sells the map for this place.

Tomb Warriors, Tomb Mages, Haunts and Spriggans are your main targets for the coffer keys. A full, balanced party of 53+ is recommended (although a couple of extra paladins can be useful here). The best camp that I've been in for this coffer key is located at (M-10) on Map#2 (you can view the maps of the place by clicking here).

Go to the intersection at (I-9) where you can either go North or West. To get to the camp, have 5 people in the party go west to the southern gate (I think it's called Titan's Gate but don't quote me on that) of (G-8) and wait there with Sneak on at all times. Sometimes an Earth elemental will float around, so try to bring some silent oils with you if possible. The 6th person (preferrably someone that can Sneak/Invisible themself repeated if necessary) should go north at (I-9) to the big room and then head to the west-side stairs room at (H-8) to trigger the gate switch. A bomb floats around in this room sometimes (if someone hasn't killed it already), so you'll need Invisible to get past it. Drop Invisible to flick the gate switch and then get Invisible up again right after. The 5 people will be able to go thru the gate and into the center, cross-intersection area of (G-8) now. After the 5 people are inside the gate, the 6th person needs to flick the gate switch again so that he/she can make his/her way to that same gate. The gate will be closed again, but can be opened with the gate switch located inside the center room.

Once everyone is inside the center area, drop down the hole in the middle intersection area and you'll be on Map#2 at (L-10). Head east thru one room with some Fallen Knights and Liches, and into the next room with a pile of Hume Bones in the center at (M-10). This is your camp! Nothing will spawn in this room (unless another party comes in to fight Magna C Lich), so rest and buff up.

There is yet another room directly east of here with some more Fallen Knights and Liches. You'll need to clear this room out before you can get to the Tomb Warriors/Mages, Haunts and Spriggans. These are located at (N-10), (N-9) and (O-9). The pulls are a little long, but as long as that room east of the camp is cleared, it shouldn't be a problem. There are other camp locations too, but this seems to work out for the best every time I've tried this (You can also check out the PLD AF1-4 gloves quest for more information on some other camp locations).

Once you have the coffer key, refer to this map for the coffer locations (click here). If you come back to search for the key at a different time/day, you'll need another person to come with you to toggle the gate switches again for a lot of the coffer chest spawn points.

Take the Old gauntlets key item back to Guslam in Upper Jeuno, who says that he can do nothing for you. Then head to the Tenshodo shop in Lower Jeuno and speak with Yin Pocanakhu in the back room. Give her 1000g for the location of a toolbox that may fix the gauntlets. Go to Port Jeuno and down the stairs to the Chocobo Stables and Duty-Free shop section and go to (H-8) for the toolbox. Examine the ??? and you'll get a cutscene with the ghost of Borghertz.

He asks for you to bring him some Shadow Flames (key item) and put them along with the Old gauntlets into the toolbox and he will restore the gauntlets for you.

Now go to Castle Zvahl Baileys, located all the way west in Xarcabard (Teleport-Vahzl comes in handy). Once inside, proceed to (F-8) by just following the path and going straight until you reach the gate with 4 torches). You'll need Sneak and Invisible to get to this point. Once there, clear out any Demons and Ahrimans near by, in case they aggro during the NM fight. Rest and buff up, and have someone examine one of the torches. The Dark Spark NM bomb will appear. You may need a DRK or BLM to cast Stun if it decides that it's time to explode (this could be fatal to most, if not all, of the party).

Once Dark Spark is dead, have everyone on the quest touch the same torch again for the Shadow Flames key item. If you don't have the quest up to the point where you got the Borghertz cutscene in Port Jeuno, I don't think you can get the key item here... So make sure everyone is on the same page first before getting up to this point.

Go/Warp back to Port Jeuno and put the Old gauntlets and Shadow flames into the toolbox and you'll get the Warlock's Gloves.

Note: This quest for the AF gloves is basically the same for most jobs, so it won't be as difficult to find party members for this as it is for some other AF quests.

Good luck!

Edited, Mon Aug 30 13:47:18 2004
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RE: some basic info
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Excellent info, replace the current quest info with this!
RE: some basic info
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finally...someone who posted where the castle is located in xarcabard....couldnt find it anywhere else on this site....thanks!
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# Aug 29 2004 at 1:54 AM Rating: Decent
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where do i get this quest???

i got the fenceing degen & warlock boots but
lost at finding this quest help PLZ!!

(sorry for the noobish questing)
erm
# Jun 19 2004 at 4:29 AM Rating: Decent
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[b][/b]what exactly drops a coffer key anyhow? Lich's ? Doggies? i dont even know where to start. /sigh
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RE: erm
# Jun 22 2004 at 7:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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unfortunately nothing so easy.. they are all lvl 60-65 mobs

tomb warrior
tomb mage
haunt
spriggan

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# Jun 14 2004 at 10:30 AM Rating: Default
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wow some really helpful info here. (not). anyway can someone post something that might be of use to someone trying to do this quest.
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AF
# May 10 2004 at 4:47 PM Rating: Good
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That is the common misconception with the AF notations. They often come from people who has obviously not done them.

For each job, there are 6 AF pieces. 3 of pieces comes from a sequential story, hence they are called AF1, AF2, AF3 and they are unique for each job.

Now, the other 3 AF pieces involves coffer(2 parts. getting key, finding chest). Each job has 3 areas. Each area maybe the AF coffer for several jobs. That's why when people ask for help and they say RDM AF5, people will go "where the F is that?" You ask for help for a specific coffer in a specific area.
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correction
# May 05 2004 at 11:36 PM Rating: Default
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This is actually AF1-3, not 4.

AF1-1: Fencing Degen
AF1-2: Warlock's Boots
AF1-3: Warlock's Gloves
AF1-4: Warlock's Tights
AF1-5: Warlock's Tabard
AF1-6: Warlock's Chapeau

(for those that may get confused)

Also, since 1-# may confuse others (as it did me for awhile), AF1-# is the first set of Artifact, the AF2-# are actually the Relic Armor sets gained from various Dynamis.

To make your life simple, call it AF# for the Artifact, or RA# for the Relic, just what I do, and a simple thought, but sure makes it easier. ^_^
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RE: correction
# May 08 2004 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually, the comment about AF2 being relic isn't right. AF2 is just that, the second set of AF armor, around level 73 if I remember right. Relic armor is different, and in my humble opinion the Crimson Scale relic set is way better then the AF2 set.
RE: correction
# May 06 2004 at 1:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Actually the gloves are AF4 and AF3 is the chapeau. After getting the AF2 (boots) you can skip AF3 and go for the gloves on to leggings to tabard, or continue on with getting the chapeau straight away.

AF1: Degen
AF2: Boots
AF3: Chapeau
AF4: Gloves
AF5: Tights
AF6: Tabard
RE: correction
# May 07 2004 at 4:51 PM Rating: Default
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totally correct, AF4 will always be the gloves or whatever hand equipment u receive. other thing AF3 will always be the one that you can only use when you hit lvl 60, and after doing quest you receive the title Paragon of *** Excellence and lvl 60 AF
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RE: correction
# May 10 2004 at 12:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Seems a bit pointless then to have AF3 be level 60 and AF4 be level 54 (I think). Besides, I know many, many hilevels that go by this little system I posted (not saying we're all the same, just haven't seen anyone actually do it any other way).

On the side note, many people on these boards have basically correlated AF2-# and the Relic set as the same. I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, just a mere observation. I appreciate the info but for sanity's sake I'll stick with what I've learned. ^_^
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RE: correction
# May 10 2004 at 7:40 AM Rating: Decent
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That's ok if people know what you're talking about. But if you ask japanese people to help you with doing AF3, they're going to think you need help getting the hat not the gloves. That's basically how I found out, when I told my japanese friend I needed to get AF3 (at the time meaning gloves), and my friend thought it was the hat.

As for AF and relic, yeah I think RA is a good way to prevent misunderstanding^^


Edited, Mon May 10 08:47:57 2004
RE: correction
# Aug 20 2004 at 8:02 AM Rating: Decent
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AF Armor ranging from 52-60 is all AF1.

AF Armor ranging from 71-75 is all AF2.

Realic Armor is level 73, that some call Abjurate armor(sp?).
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RE: correction
# Oct 05 2005 at 3:06 PM Rating: Decent
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AF -first set
AFv2 ~lol version 2
and i don't number the peices other than AF1 because that's all the stupid puny weapon. AF hat AF shirt AF pants AF feet. Lol each job does them in different order, but still confusing. :P Finishing up second set of lvl 50-60 AF @_@ I have friends taht are trying to get all AF... Some day, but I like to focus on one job at a time. ^^/

and lvl 73 stuff is sometimes called relic armor, but people still confused by it. Most people just say zenith set, crimson set, hectacomb set, etc. and for all the relic gear i check mysterytour to find out what they're talking about.
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