Borghertz's Stalwart Hands  

do you think that a we could kill that bomb with this set up or would it be suicide...

pal/nin
rng/nin
rdm/whm

Okay, so I'm on the hunt for my AF gear. All of it. PLD50, and I want to get it done, so that I can go and just worry on leveling.

I got lucky on getting coronet and leggings.

Thing is, no help. Last year, I stopped playing for unknown reason. Fast forward to a year later, LS is gone, all friends gone. And no real help. Everytime I shout in Jeuno, there is like 1 or 2 willing to help... For a price. I don't buy gil, and it's kinda hard for me to pay someone for help when I need to worry about getting the right tanking gear.

So if there is anyone on Asura willing to help me in atleast getting the rest of Coffer keys, it'll be appreciated. I'm a broke PLD trying to have fun.. Not stress on trying to get gil for someone to help me out.

Pls...

Eskobar
Asura


thnx

does any1 know the whereabouts of the coffer chest pop

Well this mornig at 9am me (75WAR), and 72 BST + 62 RDM (friends) decided to go get me my key for PLD AF, anyways we get there and for about 20mins its all fine, no coffer key yet but we're cool with waiting it out.

30ish mins after our arrival at the hume bones, an ENTIRE Jp HNM linkshell turns up (30+ people) and just stands right in the middle of the room with all the coffer mobs absolutely spamming voke on anything that pops. We get the odd 1 or 2 claims but its not gonna happen so after 3ish hrs we call it a morning and go get on with our days (no key).


Anyway, me and a 75 RDM friend went again just now, and after 2hrs (at least) we got it!

anyway, long story short drop rate is appaling, allot at least an entire day or be very very lucky.... Good luck

I've been trying to get help on this quest for a while now, but to no avail!
I have the coffer key, but need the chest and to kill Dark Spark. I'm levl 56, so I also need the head piece. I'm on Odin, and if anyone could help me out, that would be MUCH APPRECIATED!

Thank you!

Ok just helped a LS member get this and here are the locations of spawn points of coffers 4 on main floor G-6, G-7, e-8, f-8 on second floor there are 5 more and to get to them u have to drop through various hole or tele to vazhl here they are (1)drop through hole at G-8 and they located at M-10, M-11.(2)Drop down hole in area g-9 this drops you into area L-12 wheere the coffer should be very close in that area. (3) to get this one drop through hole in area G-6 wich puts you right in reaching distance of coffer at area L-9. final coffer is located at upper Necropolis through the Glacier and it is in area E-6 (watch out for Nm spawn here) this run takes patience and at least one other person to open doors for you, also make sure you sneak your self and buddy and have invisible for being around the bombs by the door levers. this was a very frustrating thing to find and took like 4-6 hours to actually get completed after this is all done you are ready to go kill Dark Spark for flame it is a lvl 55-55 NM and you should bring help to kill it at least one other person if you are lvl 55 more people if lower id suggest. hope this helps alil cause trust me i know how frustrating this can be also this is a great site for chest and coffer locations for future refemce http://www.speakeasy.org/~sticks/ffxi/treasure/title.html

id="fs8">Edited, Thu Apr 27 08:15:27 2006

I was in a party of 6, we camped downstairs and killed about 70 Tomb Mages/Warriors and Haunts. This took about 4 hours... And Guess what! ><
NOT 1 SINGLE COFFER KEY DROP.
i don't know what was on the go, but the drop rate last night was pathetic.

Yeah, sorry, this is a pretty unuseful post haha. But i just couldn't believe it!

I was terribly afraid of this quest after reading this forum, but I guess I got lucky as usual, here is my story : we went to Eldieme at 4 people : pld53(me), pld61 (Amandarius), rdm61 (Lepton) and thf70 (Pantherdark). We went to the camp near Hume Bones and we got the drop on the 4th mob we fought ^^. We fought an other tomb warrior to skill up and we got aggroed by a tomb mage during the fight, it used a lot of ga spells and wiped us out. Before we all die, the tomb warrior went down and droped a key (wow 2 in a row).
I came back the day after to look for the coffer, I was alone so I had som problems with the doors. After 10 minutes of trying to find a way, I found the coffer behind a door's lever ^^.
Now I just have to fight Dark Spark, but this quest was a piece of cake until now ^^.
Thanks again my friends for helping me with the key. I'm in debt with you.

i left another AF hands quest open, and this will not activate. I have done the AF1 sword quest and yet he will not yield me this quest.

Do i need to complete other AF hands to start this one?

All I got to say is it took me (52 Pld) and two of my friends ( 75 BRD and 75 NIN) 4 hours to find one key. About to go back in by my self to hunt for coffer.

Yea, just a casual note that no one has seemed to post here. If this is your second AF-Hands quest, you don't need to pay the npc an additional 10k to find the box.

Yea, it sounds stupid and all, but it wasnt posted anywhere. Plus, it made my day (woo).

Well finally after like a good month and like 4 failures of different parties, I finally get another party today w/ 3 70+s and a lvl 50 rdm out of the goodness of their hearts b/c I don't pay for help, cuz I do the same w/out reward, well got down there, killed one, someone brought two in, well we basically gettin our asses handed to us, one lvl 70+ died, and I saw the others going so I went Invincible, grabbed the hate of the mage, they killed the warrior, I thought all was fine till it casted Flood, I died and dlvled to 54, and turns out the mage dropped the key, I was raised and lotted, thank the gods lol, but now I'm stuck w/ finding coffer chest on my own, anyone know any good maps?

after reading on what i have to do i got scared.... got some LS friends that might help me but i dont have any friends over 70 so if any one on hades is gona do this and im online plz PM me and i will follow (I Hate Eldieme Necropolis)

I know that people hate farming the Eldieme key, and I can't say I'm very fond of it either. However, here's something to keep in mind when you're trying to get anything (keys, items, w/e) to drop:

Every single fight has its own random chance associated with it.

That's right, just camping a key or w/e longer does not improve your chances any more than they were when you initially got there. Every kill gives you the same chance for a drop, and I honestly think that SE made all coffer key drops have the same low random chance.

I've gotten 2 necropolis keys so far, the first one dropped for my DRK AF hands on the 3rd skele, and the one for my PLD AF hands dropped on the 10th or 12th. Anybody's "bad luck" with key drops is just that: luck. If you camp for 3 hours and don't get it, and somebody got it on their first kill, don't think they have a secret. Other than TH2 which slightly improves your odds of getting rare items, it's just random chance. Suck it up and come back another day, because the game doesn't hate you, your luck was just bad.

Be patient and above all have fun.

So after 3 attempts @ eldieme for like 3 hours each and with only 1 drop which I didn't get b/c of low lot ><

I decided to quit paladin56 and go for leveling nin and war, but... paladin is great so i tried after a month once more.. with mnk72, mnk63, whm70 and me. Figured that a small party would have a better droprate... guess not.. i'v partied for over 3hours and still didn't get key.

Then mij buddy Dpgc said he would come as whm/thf for TH and helped me out. And on the 2nd fight he was in, the key dropped!
Finally I got my believed/hated key. So for almost 4 hours fighting (with chains up to 5) we got 1 key.

Never the less I got it.. and I wish you all luck!

Thanx to Ahmed, Arugo, Auelemaeu and Dpgc

Went to hunt for the coffer with 4 other people, only me and 1 other needed the key. PT setup was 75DRG/37WHM 75DRK/37THF 59DRK/29WAR 54PLD/27WAR (me) and a 52PLD. Anyway, got first key in about 10 minutes, let the other pld have it. He stayed as we continued to slay tomb mages/warriors, got the other key about 15 minutes later. anyway, we all warp back and i'm still WIDE awake so I decide to go back and hunt for my coffer as my 49THF, which I don't care if he dies so its win/win with the Flee. anyway, I look around for about 10 mins, get the the hume bones area with the help of some old friend that happened to be there, looked east side, wasnt there. looked WEST, there it was. after 10 minutes I got my coffer chest. that's the fastest i've gotten a coffer chest in all my jobs, lol. good luck to everyone else.

like all other AF's the hardest part is getting a party together.

I had an alliance of 9 people ranging from level 52 to 75. The drop rate was kind of terrible took about 3 hours to get roughly 4 keys. We needed 5. With the alliance i had we were able to bring down 2 to 3 different mobs at the same time barely having to rest. A couple of low level people died due to aggro so be careful where u camp.

The best place to camp for Coffer Chest is in the room where u can see the Hume Bones. In this room No monsters will come close to u, and it is where 2 coffer chests pop. in both dead-ended rooms you can enter. they coffer pops right up the back towards the middle of the back wall so u can see if it pops without having to go inside and causing an aggro.

I waited patiently for about 45 minutes before coffer poped and i took it and ran like hell to the closest zone. Be sure to sneak up before u open the coffer coz if you get aggro while opening the chest you may get interrupted, and then die.

Okay after spending hours of shouting, i finally got people to help me. Party ended up consisting of a 75 pld, 71 pld, 67 brd, 69 whm, 58 thf, and pld 55 (me). We got there and camped near the bones. In our surprise coffer was directly behind us. we began killing for key and no luck for quite a few battles. 75 pld left, then 71 pld said he knows a better camp, so we followed him. Got to camp pulled the first skeleton and got key the first time ^^. So we all went out pld told me other party rdm had gotten the coffer previously and said he was probably lying and told me to go and check it out. Well my bestfriend Syden (67 blm ^^) was done with other stuff came and help me out to get coffer, went back to the original camp and coffer was still there :D, so i opened coffer got aggroed, had to use 2hr, blm warped me out than himself. Woot everything went smooth no deaths and now alls i need to do is fight Dark Spark ^^. Thank all very much for helping me out, i really appreciated it

Please dont hate me^^.

4pld's, 3whm's, 2drk's, 3rdm's, 2blm's, 2mnk's,and 1smn. 52-59 level range

4 keys needed and 3 bells for whm needed

30-45 mins
0 deaths
7 rare/ex items
1 great time

EDIT

3 trips in solo for the coffer i found in the first spot i looked on my last try warped out and getting ready for DS tonight.

Edited, Mon Feb 28 08:44:56 2005

/cry

2 hours no key, party had to go.. No key for me ; ;.

If i was going to pay for one do i give them the money before they get the key or after?

got mine the first fight it was while i was doing gk1 so it was a bonus yay

JUST A WARNING TO PEOPLE

completing AF2 does not make you able to pop the other coffers automatically for the key items

YOU MUST TALK TO GULSAM at least once its seems, then you can pop AF3,4,5,6 without speaking to him

I wasted my coffer key last night thru this scenario... I hope others can avoid that mistake

well first night of coffer and nothing..5hours,
o,well always tomorrow right?(retorical)hehe

Had one bad run on Dark Spark, Dub came with me along with a 63WHM friend of his. Allow me to say that 60+ noobs DO in fact exist as his WHM friend didn't heal him at all till he was less than 300hp and I was already healing him has my PLD >.>, he died, then the WHM finally did her job and started healing me, good enough to keep me alive for 3 mins but were not strong enough to win. I died...WHM escapes herself only -.-. Came back in, saw another pt fighting it, we allianced and easily beat it, got a warp 2 back to Jeuno, all was well.

After just having a good experience with my AF boots (which you all should read if you really care about my awesome weekend with AFs plus this post won't make much sense if you don't XD), I decided to push my luck with my luck with the Eldieme Necropolis coffer key. The 75 SAM i was with was in but he wanted a healer of sorts in case of an extreme emergency. I briefy remembered a guy by the name of dailaren shouting help for the EN coffer key. I send him a /t and he still needs help, he was a 53PLD, he had found a 59BLM/WHM, then me at 50PLD and the 75SAM head over to the Necropolis.

We camp in the Hume bones room, within an 45 mins we got one key, I lotted higher but sure in hell wasn't about the leave the guy so we kept camping. The BLM had to go so it was just me the PLD and the SAM, in between battles, I kept checking the rooms north and south of the hume bones room for coffers. Unfortunately, my overanxiety made me overlook the fact that I was in yellow HP so even with my WHM sub and sneak on, two dark stalkers aggroed me. The SAM almost pulled them off of me but I remembered that they were EP to him at 75 and I had two, so I told him and the other PLD to let me die for being stupid (no need to risk them right?).

I go down, and there was an AF WHM nearby so I asked for a raise 2. WHM said sure and as I was dead we got the other coffer key ^^ so i got raise 2'd, passed the key, then the other PLD says he hadn't activated the quest so any coffers were mine. I wanted to keep camping the 2 spots near the Hume Bones room, so I told the PLD and SAM that they didn't have to waste their time sitting around with me so they left. Spent a good hour camping those 2 spots and started to think that my glorious weekend luck had finally run out. I felt I was wasting time down in that hellhole and checking the other pop points may be in order.

I run out, check the other zone only to realize that I have to go through the southernmost entrance and then drop down through holes just to access the other pop points -.- . So I do a few runs through, I check the 4 pop points up top (they are in the rooms with 9 holes in the floor and buttloads of utuuku and Ka around and they are in the Northernmost room like that and the Westernmost room like that) and start dropping, looking, and exiting back to Bataillia to do it all again. When I get down the point where there was only one pop point left to check (excluding the one that pops in the entrance from Beaucidine Glacier and I really didn't feel up to checking that) and it was accessible by dropping through one of the nine holes in the Southernmost room. I wanted to check the 4 pop points up top one last time before i dropped and then gave up. Unfortunately, Odin's and Titan's gates were locked, so I couldn't get to the northern room and shouting for help didnt help (only 8 other people there and i know that 6 of them were in a pt in the Hume Bones room). So I ran to the west room, checked the 2 pops there, nothing (or so I thought), head back to check Odin's gate hoping it would be open...it wasn't. So I head back through the West room on my way to the South room, and something catches my eye in the corner of the room...it was the coffer!! Turns out Speakeasy/mysterytour's map was wrong a little, they said the coffer was along the middle of the wall but it was in the corner of room o_O, oh well, an honest mistake and not a big one.

I get my "Old Gauntlets" Go back to Jeuno, activate the Dark Spark part of the quest, I'm on my way to Sandy to finish my boots and I get a pt invite (I'm not seeking and I have a gimped WHM sub...don't ask me how this happened). So I gained 2k exp in that party so I made back the 2 deaths I had acquired getting 3 AFs this weekend and got a little more. 5.9k/7.8k til cap (haven't even done G1 yet XD). PT disbands, I finished boots, and logged last night, haven't done Dark Spark yet but I'll be doing it when i get home today. Thanks for listening and wish me luck ^^

Being a dragoon as my main for the most part, I activated the glove quest for it, so my question is, as a pld at 54, having done af1 and af2, can i still get the quest or do i have to finish off the dragoon glove one?