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ZM6 - Through the Quicksand Caves  

Realm:Outlands
Start Area: Chamber of Oracles
Type:Mission
Related Areas:Chamber of Oracles
Related Mobs:Centurio V-III
Princeps V-XI
Triarius V-VIII
Mission:6
Min Level:65
Max Level:75
Rating
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This Quest requires Zilart
This Mission is Not Skippable
Previous Mission: ZM5 - Headstone Pilgrimage
Next Mission: ZM7 - The Chamber of Oracles
Last Updated: Mon Sep 27 04:51:03 2010

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Summary

You must hurry to Zepwell Island's ancient temple.

Walkthrough

After collecting all the fragments in the previous mission, head to Western Altepa Desert. Go to C-11 to enter a hidden cave, then keep going and enter Quicksand Caves at D-12.

Once inside Quicksand Caves, head to I-9 where you must stand on a circular pad to open a door. You must have either a galka, three tarutaru or two of any other race combination stand on the pad for the door to open. After going through the door, head northwest and then go through another circular pad door at H-7. Head west until you come to a pit; fall down the pit.

After falling down, follow the path until it splits. Take the left (western) path and follow it north to the Chamber of Oracles.

In the Chamber of Oracles, you will enter a BCNM fight with three antican NMs. They are:

  1. Centurio V-III (PLD)
  2. Princeps V-XI (RNG)
  3. Triarius V-VIII (BLM)

Winning the fight marks the end of this mission. You will be ejected from the battlefield into a different part of the Chamber of Oracles. This marks the start of the next mission.

Battle Notes

Some notes about this BCNM fight:

  • Many parties choose to sleep the paladin NM first because it resists sleep. The other two NMs can be easily slept.
  • All three mobs can be slept with Elemental Seal + Sleepga II.
  • The black mage NM can be silenced.
  • Paladin tanks are recommended for this fight.


To read the transcripts for this quest, see the Through the Quicksand Caves Spoilers page.


Mission Series

This mission is part of the Rise of the Zilart mission series. The complete mission series includes:

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Close, but no cigar
# Feb 16 2009 at 5:45 AM Rating: Decent
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So, a friend and I decided to try to duo this mission.

BLM69/WHM34 and SAM75/NIN37 (me). The first time, the PLD wiped us both because for whatever reason the RNG wouldn't stay asleep.

The second time was a bit easier. We took down the PLD but the RNG, yet again, screwed us over and wiped us out.

The third time we had it. We took down the PLD and BLM and almost had the RNG out but time limit hit and we were kicked. I wasn't keeping track, but I'd say about 30 mins.

Point is, this CAN be duo'd by skilled players, but just in case, bring an extra DD or RDM. The whole idea is to keep the ants slept or you'll wipe faster than you can call for your mom.

We are going to try it again later when we have someone.
HELP?
# Sep 13 2008 at 8:08 AM Rating: Default
i looking this done i am in siren server and need help me anme is spikey can anyone from my server help please?
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# Dec 17 2007 at 5:28 AM Rating: Decent
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If you are in carbuncle server and need this, or just wanna help out, gimme a tell plz. Chars name is Zanno. anyone ever heard of this beeing solo btw? can you use your npc inside?
A wipe and a win
# Jun 20 2007 at 6:38 AM Rating: Default
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Kept reading strategies and finally settled on one for this BC. People were all saying that it was easy and not much to worry about.

Setup:
75 Whm/Rdm (for gravity)
75 Thf/Nin
75 Drg/Blu
70 Drg/Sam (me)
65 Nin/War
65 Whm/Smn

We went Pld > Rng > Blm . . . at least initially. The 75 Whm was in charge of the blm. He kited him up and down the first hallway keeping him silenced and gravity'd. He said that sleep kept getting resisted and only stuck once, but silence was sticking every time, so he just went with that. The Nin tanked the Pld while the 2 drg pounded on it, which ended up turning into a hate crime spree. The Thf began soloing the Rng mob and was doing a great job.

Until she got hit with Magnetite Cloud (sp?) for over 600 and died from previous wounds. The Rng went to the Whm kiter at this point. Just nearly at the same time we killed the Pld and moved to the Rng while the kiter moved the blm into the other room. Well, the nin got EES'd for 1200 and dropped. And two drg cannot tank, so they went down. The Drg/Blu was silenced as well. The rng cleaned up both whm's.

We RR'd up, rested and went back at it. We blitz'd the rng while the blm was kited once more since it was the easiest to do that with (you can't really kite a rng mob in a BC). Then we moved onto the rng and ripped it a new one. It seemed to be bad luck, as Magnetite Cloud was doing 50-100 normally. The idea actually had been to have the Thf fighting the Pld while the Rng shot at her from a distance, but the Thf engaged the Rng directly and fought side by side with it. She got it down to 50% that way, though I think we'd have killed the Pld faster otherwise and would have been able to take out the Rng. Plus we'd have had a better control of hate with the THF on the pld. Could also have easily taken out the BLM first as well, since the Pld can be gravity kited too. Either way we won, though in 27 minutes.

The Pld did not Invincible on us that I noticed. The RNG EES'd the nin, 1 shot'd. The Blm did use Mana Font while he was still silenced and never got off a single spell. He began casting quake and we just let him, as it was interrupted, and the nin had shadows up anyway. Some say to kite the Blm, others say the Pld. If you don't have someone that can silence (which wouldn't be wise) you should slaughter the blm ASAP and use poison pots.
Buffs
# Jun 13 2007 at 3:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Not sure if this is new, but buffs get removed when entering this and the Duke fight (I'd assume all ZM bcnm fights) now. Did this on June 9.
no sleepga
# Apr 22 2007 at 7:03 AM Rating: Good
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Setup: pld/war, war/nin, drk/war, smn/whm, rdm/nin, whm/blm (me)

Went in, have the pld and DDs take down centurio while the rdm/nin keeps the princeps busy by tanking it. The rdm just stood at a distance away and kept shadows up while the princeps shot endless arrows, much easier than keeping it slept. And the triarius(blm) was my responsibility, I started off with ES + Sleep but ES wasn't really needed. As a 75 whm/blm I was able to sleep it without getting resisted once and I also kept it silenced. I had to resleep it 4-5 times over the course of the battle since it had to stay asleep for the duration of the centurio and princeps battle and again I had no problem doing that.

Overall easy fight with this strategy
easy
# Apr 10 2007 at 6:29 AM Rating: Decent
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went in with 6 ppl, lvl 64-75. wasn't too hard. Bring a Slamurai :D
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# Feb 28 2007 at 3:51 PM Rating: Good
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Just solo/duod this fight. Guess technically just duod. . . i was playing my brother's Character Chyme (75nin) on my laptop, and myself(75whm) on my desktop.

I was bored and decided to solo/duo zm-5, which went pretty well other than the death and hp for both our characters thanks to the ash dragon ^^;. . . anyway, after i was finished i was still bored, so i decided to try this one out.

Fight went really bad the first round. i went /blm to try to sleepga the blm and rng while I had Chyme take out the pld. . . would have worked out well too, if sleep stuck for more than 45 seconds, which it didn't. Anyway, i got hit with a bunch of arrows and the blm finished me off with flood. I kept chyme going as long as i could, but the fight ended with with the rng and blm unharmed, and the pld at about 25%.

Luckily i had RR up so i waited to get transported out, raised myself and Chyme, then got ready for round 2.

This didn't really go all that well, but it did go a lot better. this time i made sure chyme was the only one who had hate so i could drop the big cure bombs without having to worry about aggro. Killing the pld took a long time, and i almost ran out of mp thanks the the blm and his -ga spells taking out chyme's shadows, but with resting in between casts i had enough mp to wait the pld out. once he was dead the rest of the battle was relatively simple.

Went straight for the blm, who went down pretty fast and with chyme's stun katanas he never got off another -ga spell.

After he was dead the ranger wasn't even a challenge. I was a little worried that he might get lucky with EES, but it was absorbed by a shadow.

It was a pretty fun fight, and definitley duoable.


er. . . i forgot to eat food. may have made it a little easier.

Edited, Feb 28th 2007 7:55pm by Bradbury
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My Experience
# Feb 26 2007 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Bored at work so I thought I post my experience last night.

Party was a pick up party I got in White Gate. Wasnt doing nothing else and I needed and thought why not. Once we got a full party it consisted of:

(Pretty sure I am correct on job, maybe not lvl)
NIN/war 75
MNK/war 75
THF/nin 75
PLD/war 70 (me)
SMN/whm 70
WHM/blm 75 (I think)

Over all it wasnt bad being we didnt have a Blm or Rdm with Sleep II or Sleepga II. Went in with the strategy that Shiva would Sleepga and if need be WHM/blm would ES+Sleepga. Shiva's landed but only slept the RNG. We went in order of BLM, PLD, RNG. BLM went down pretty easy getting off a Flood on somebody and managing hate with the PLD to keep on us melees being he did not fall to Sleepga. PLD went to mages just as we killed BLM. Started working on PLD and wasnt to tough. We bounced hate but wasnt easy for me to get it being I was up against a NIN, MNK an THF all 75 with merits probably.

But I managed to take some hits and helped with shadows with Flash. Pld went down and we went to RNG. RNG wasnt very hard either other then me eating a Eagle Eye Shot to the face for 713 damage. Brought me to red and was out of MP but Mages were fast to heal me.

Again, over all it wasnt bad with party HP dipping to low Yellow but restored by either a Curaga II or Carby and me taking a EES to the face. We didnt go supper prepared being the only thing people brought was Echo Drops. They may have brought some MP drink but I never noticed them using it.

All you need is Sneak Oils to get to the BCNM area.
Finally! XD
# Jan 30 2007 at 10:22 AM Rating: Decent
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We finally got my boyfriend ZM6 <.< lol we did it with just 3
LVL 70BRD/WHM
LVL 75PLD/WAR
LVL 75RDM/BLM (me)

I went in and Elemental Seal +Sleepga the Ants. We went BLM > PLD > RNG.
BRD was helping keeping the PLD asleep. I was silencing and enfeebling the BLM and PLD. As the PLD used Invincible, I was nuking a tad. Our PLD healed himself most of the time, with occasional Cure IIIs thrown in by me and the BRD. The only one DDing was our PLD, for the RNG, he used Earthstaff til after EES, then used Shield and Sword again. It went all pretty smooth without anyone being in danger. I converted after the PLD and nuked the RNG for a bit of DMG. We needed 19mins and 9secs. Didnt get the Record but hey, we beat it! XD Was pretty much fun, since the last time I did this it was with a whole PT of 70+'s, this was really nice thing.
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done
# Jan 22 2007 at 4:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Completed this mission ^^
was kinda easy lol

Setup:

whm68 (me)
whm71
bst67
brd75
rdm69
cant remember the last one, thought pld75 >.>
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Four Just as Easy
# Jan 18 2007 at 8:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Did this last night with 4 ppl. Setup:

73 Pld/War (me)
73 Nin/War (Azimov)
73 Whm/Blm (Meowphttphtt)
73 Rdm/Blm

I tanked the Pld, Azi tanked the Rng, our Red Mage slept and silenced the Blm, while dispelling the mobs, nuking and keeping us refreshed. Nice smooth fight, Meow kept us all healed, hasted and moving without once grabbing hate. :) Rng went down 1st, and Azi and I duoed the Pld. Let our mages rest while the Blm slept, then took it down quick. No sweat, minimum effort. Took 20+ minutes, but it was a fun fight. Who needs Sleepga II? :p

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5 bst
# Jan 12 2007 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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Did this with 5 best 70,72,73,73,75. One death to lvl 70. The lvl 75 set a CC on RNG and BLM and rest killed PLD, he took a while to take down and the RNG killed 2nd CC as we killed PLD. BLM seemed to do less dmg. If doing again I would say take BLM 1st then RNG and PLD last.
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BST party
# Dec 30 2006 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Gonna try this with 6 BST party.
Six 70+ Bst and 6 Carries should be able to rape this.
But I am a little nervous of not sleeping them.
Anyone try this yet?
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# Jan 12 2007 at 12:02 PM Rating: Good
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Did this with 5 best 70,72,73,73,75. One death to lvl 70. The lvl 75 set a CC on RNG and BLM and rest killed PLD, he took a while to take down and the RNG killed 2nd CC as we killed PLD. BLM seemed to do less dmg. If doing again I would say take BLM 1st then RNG and PLD last.

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# Oct 24 2006 at 8:12 PM Rating: Good
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Did this fight today with:

75 war/nin
75 war/nin
72 mnk/war
70 blm/whm
62 rdm/blm
75 whm/blm (me)

The fight went fairly smooth, we followed the order of the guide killing the pld ant, rng ant, and finally the blm ant. The blm and rdm took turns keeping the ants asleep while the melees went to work. The important thing to do here for people who aren't starting with the blm ant like us is to keep the blm ant silenced at all times, even while asleep. I had little trouble keeping the melees alive and we ended the fight in 6 minutes.
Skeleton crew
# Sep 07 2006 at 5:31 PM Rating: Decent
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This can be done with as few as 3 people, probably less. I did it last night with:
71NIN/WAR (me)
75NIN/WAR
75BRD/WHM
I'm fairly certain that I just made it easier, and the 2 of them would have been able to duo it if I hadn't been there. Order killed: PLD, BLM, RNG

Big thank you to Tenkei and Fahzoo for the attempted-suicide mission that worked out great!
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# Jul 14 2006 at 6:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Did this and Z8 last night with my LS

67PLD/WAR (me)
67WAR/NIN
67MNK/WAR
71RNG/NIN
73BLM/WHM
75SMN/WHM

After full SMN buffs we went in. BLM ES Sleepga2 with me ready to Voke the PLD, but sleep stuck on him.

Fight was going well, RNG and MNK doing Light and WAR using Rampage. I went full Enmity and used JA's to keep hate on me.

Only problem we had was the BLM got Flood on me (Stun wasn't up) followed by Fire IV. I had just swapped to a Staff so I could Spirit Taker to get some more MP for the mobs, and Shield Bash wasn't up.

I went down like a ton of bricks. WAR grabbed hate and started tanking. I reraised, popped a Yag Drink and stood back healing. WAR and MNK worked hate, Eagle Eye Shot smacked the MNK for 900+ but he made it.
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Not a problem
# Apr 11 2006 at 3:13 PM Rating: Default
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Heres the Set up....

69 Drk/Thf (me)
75 thf/nin (Blaine)
71 war/nin (Baetaucant [sp?])
69 Whm/Blm
72 Nin/war
72ish Blm/Whm

we go in ele seal sleepga 2 the thf pulls the rng and the rest pull the pld....not a problem we ping off the pld quick (I nuked while he had invincible up not that it did much but eh every lil bit helps right?) And then onto the blm. While we pull the blm we see EES go off and the thf is still at 1k HP. LoL sucked to be that Rng. The blm fell with a quickness to Light. The to the polish off the rng which was now at about 1/4 health and took all of like 6 minutes for everything. This same party proceeded to do Zm12 NM after (our war needed it) and then ZM 8 NM. Had a little problem with ZM8. Nin moved forward no shadows on got aggroed died in a hurry. War didn't have hate I did...light blade ended me so from here on the thf tanked for the most part with the war back him up. All and all this its nice to be this far in ZMs. And go Blaine for all his thf skiznillz. Tonight. ZM 12 NM....then into the SKY I go!
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# Mar 29 2006 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Last night I logged in and my someone from my LS was putting a ZM6 toghther so i just at the chance i wanted to do it. SO we shout and shout and a few LS guys go so it ends up we have party of 61rdm/blm me
66 rdm/blm
2 whm at least 70 i think
war and bst of 70-75 both sub nin

We went in 66 rdm sleepaga with ES and I ES/Silence. And they proced to bash the PLD. SO two rdms are refreshing 2 Whms pretty good mp lvls all through the fight. Pld falls as we keep sleeping the blm and rng no real problems. They take the blm and he goes pretty fast. No deaths yet, we get to the Rng and every thing is great. Healing refreshing, enfeebling, it just full out beat down War gets to 600 hp whm's and rdm's cure him quick. War dies drops to 0 RNG EES. But we still kill him and poof 10 mins later we win. Not a bad fight but like everyone says Sleep bard, blm, rdm. Even at 61 my sleep II was sticking but I had my enfeebiling almost capped and most of my JSE on. Good luck and have fun

Edited, Wed Mar 29 12:27:52 2006
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# Mar 23 2006 at 11:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Fought it twice. Died first time. Beat it second time.

First setup:
74 NIN/WAR (me)
68 WHM/BLM
65 DRG/WAR
64 BRD/WHM
63 THF/NIN
61 WAR/SAM

Plan was to have BRD Lullaby and fight like normal. It became clear early in fight that lullaby was getting resisted and would wear quickly. Needless to say, we managed to kill the PLD before we all died. Got tired that night and went to sleep. Meanwhile, the DRG insisted that if he changed to his 61 NIN, it would be easy.

4 days later, second setup:
75 NIN/WAR (me again solo'd 11k :P)
68 WHM/BLM
64 BRD/WHM
63 THF/NIN
61 WAR/SAM
61 NIN/WAR (same DRG from above)

This time, plan was to have the other NIN tank the PLD near entrance while we killed the BLM and the BRD and WHM tried to keep the RNG asleep. I was a little skeptical about the 61 NIN staying alive.

Well, he managed to prove me wrong and didn't die. We killed the BLM first, then took the PLD while other NIN voked the RNG while still hitting the PLD since the RNG just stands there and shoot arrows anyways (it was asleep most of the time anyways).

I decided to kill the RNG last because wanted the best chance of avoiding death from EES. Also, it is easier to tank since it mostly just uses Ranged Attacks with higher delay. Anyways, after the BLM went down, the rest went smoothly. I think the fight took about 10-11 minutes.

Afterwards, we took the same group and beat ZM8 first try with no deaths. ^^
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# Mar 14 2006 at 12:51 AM Rating: Decent
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to those who say 65+ DD is required, is dead wrong. i was a 61 war/nin, and i outdamaged the nins 65 and 66, the 70 outdamaged me when he used meikyo and 3 tachi: gekkos.

the key to this battle is sleep. we went pld >> rng >> blm. pld has roughly 16k hp, the other 2 have 8k each (give or take 1k on pld, and 500 on the others)

remember: rdms and blm (we had 2 rdm) is the key to winning. keep them alive, and you will be fine

our setup: 66 nin, 65 nin, 70 sam, 61 war, 70 rdm and 63 rdm
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# Mar 06 2006 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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Did this with my static group and a ls friend who came along to help us out. Easy fight really, 2 of us died but it was kinda our own fault >.> Set up was:
68WHM/SMN <me>
68BLM/WHM
68SAM/WAR
67 or 68 PLD/WAR (sorry Spod! >.<)
68RDM/BLM
75BLM/WHM

Basically kept sleeping them, killed the PLD first. However, I managed to run out of mp... kinda my own fault, I wasnt healing when I could have been. Got **** and didnt conserve mp properly! So I sat down, told someone else to cover my cures, but no-one did XD so PLD hit the dirt lol. He should have invincibled imo though >.> anyway to save the SAM I ran up and Benedictioned, so I died lol, had RR up though so no biggy, I got back up, RDM raised the PLD, and just sleep nuked the other 2 to death XD while me and PLD rested back up. RNG did EES on our Taru BLM.... (Blink) lol. Pretty fun fight, but I enjoyed the heshe thing in Dellys tower better. >:D
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Easy as pie
# Feb 05 2006 at 3:28 AM Rating: Decent
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O.K. I don't understand why so many people fear this mission! Honestly, finding a tele was harder! I'm on Unicorn server and this is my story:

I was bored on Saturday night [best time to shout for missions] so I decided what the heck, I'll try for Zm6. So I shout a few times, and a 74 RDM [Rhyuh] joins me. Sweet. Shout a few more times and I see my NIN friend [Drew] run by, I send him a /tell. He says he'll help.

We go, just us 3:
60 BLM/WHM <me>
74 RDM/BLM
75 NIN/WAR

We get to the BC. Buff inside, reset timers, get full MP. I go in and ES Sleepga II. Drew walks up, takes the PLD and runs to the back. The RDM alternates sleeping with me, we both -na [blind paralyze silence] the NIN when needed. PLD goes down after about 6 min including his 2hr. Next is the BLM, I ES silence, and he does down in about 2 min, he also used his 2hr. RNG is last, NIN had NI and ICHI up, EES didn't phase us one bit. He goes down in 2 min.

Easiest fight ever, just takes a bit longer than most! Don't rush and keep them slept and you can cake walk this mission!
easy :D
# Dec 06 2005 at 4:55 PM Rating: Decent
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My party was:

WAR/NIN 74 (me)
BLM 75
SAM 60
NIN 75
WHM 64

Even without a refresher it was a very easy fight D: Once ya sleep the anticans, they are very easy to smash. I think the antican BLM lasted like 1 min...
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Fun Fight
# Nov 06 2005 at 12:18 AM Rating: Good
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Just did this today with 4 people - BST, WHM, WHM, and BLM. Looks fishy, eh? BLM kept the ants slept while BST and WHMs smashed the PLD. We moved onto the BLM and took him out pretty quick. Finally we rest as the RNG sleeps, and laugh as we try to figure out who exactly is going to die to EES. We started beating on him, BST tanking. It was my job to throw Benediction first, so when the BST got to red and I tossed it. WHAM, Eagle Eye Shot, right to the face. Fortunately, we had gotten it to around 1/3 life at this point, and my three teammates were able to finish it off. Even though I died, I still had great fun! Gewd luck to all you ZM-hopefuls.
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# Oct 07 2005 at 1:16 AM Rating: Decent
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List shows level 65 required for this mission, I did it at 61.
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# Sep 08 2005 at 12:50 AM Rating: Decent
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you should do it more like PLD af3. Kill the easiestto but hardest hitting first basically. I havn't done this yet so I'm going to try binding the pld and keeping it silence and bound as look as possible.

As a pld myself bound and silence is as good as slept.

I better not try this one til I reach 65.
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Just beat this for some people that needed it. I had it done already but I helped them with ZM4+.

70RDM/BLM
70DRK/THF
70NIN/WAR
74THF/NIN (me)

We won the BC in 17mins, RDM had died but he had RRII on so he got back up. Him and the DRK traded off sleeping the mobs and rested after we killed the BLM. RNG gave some trouble because at that point HP/MP was low. Had no meds of any kind.
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# Aug 26 2005 at 5:37 PM Rating: Default
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This BCNM is VERY hard if you fight the PLD first, we went in twice and did PLD BLM RNG and all got raped, we went in again and did BLM PLD RNG and we came out with 1 death due to EES at the end. very easy if you have a BLM and a PLD with you and fight the order BLM PLD RNG. RNG needs to go last or you'll be left without a tank the whole battle and BLM needs to go first, his spells are very painfull.
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# Aug 11 2005 at 4:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Completed this just a few minutes ago with quite an odd party setup.

BLM/WHM 68
RDM/NIN 75
WHM/BLM 68
WHM/BLM 69
THF/NIN 70
THF/NIN ??


Tough fight with this setup, but nevertheless, interesting.

I opened with Elemental Seal + Sleepga which stuck on all three Antican. THF's set up SATA on the RDM/NIN on Triarius. Tri Manafonted at about 75% HP, but it was wasted due to a well placed Silence. Had to resleep Centurio a few times, proving to be tough with PLD being so highly resistant to Sleep, but eventually got him to nap long enough to finish off Triarius.

Moved on to Centurio. Same basic idea; set up another dual SATA with the RDM/NIN, and worked our way from there. Silenced Centurio, and continuously re-slept Princeps. Invincible at about 75% HP, then we kept pounding. A few close calls due to the huge amounts of hate on the RNG from Sleep, but after we took down Centurio, we thought we were in the clear. . .

Princeps shot that dream down really fast. A nice Eagle Eye Shot knocked out our RDM tank, leaving us with 2 THF/NIN to bounce the hate. Shadows were eaten, and one THF fell before he was able to get Perfect Dodge up. RDM got raised and began to tank while weakened. The second THF goes down, and then Princeps moved on to one of the WHM, who goes down as well. RDM pulls hate long enough for me to land the final Fire III on this guy for the win.


All in all, tough fight, but the most fun, exhilarating battle I've had yet.

Clear Time was 20m 10s, also including a Connection Loss of about 3 minutes when first entering the Burning Circle.
Bastok 8-1
# Aug 02 2005 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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This seems like Bastok mission 8-1...
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So easy
# Aug 01 2005 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Setup was

whm/??? 70
whm/??? 65
rdm/blm 71
thf/nin 70 <me>
war/nin 71
nin/war 70

Weird setup? Not to me I would do prob any mission with these guys. Fight went like this. I sleep myself to 100tp with opo opo necklace.
Rdm sleepagas everything. We kill blm first rdm keeps sh#$ asleep BLM goes down fast and easy. Next in line RNG he gave us trouble but in all in all was easy only thing he did was ees our tank and killed him. WHM reraised him in no time nin started healing me and warrior killed rng. Next RDM keeps pld asleep til nin unsicken then beat his a$$. So easy. I used sleep bolts for ranged and missed rarely. Help keep it from getting those few extra swings or spells in. Used one echo drop entire fight. Thanks to isenhart rdm 71 for the help he was a fast replace for a rdm who missed getting one of there key items please check getting your key items just cus it says you got it dont mean you got it check and make sure every time no matter what.
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# Jun 26 2005 at 3:50 AM Rating: Decent
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The only thing accurate about this guide is where to go once you're inside QSC. If you have an "average" group consisting of players you just found and may or may not be the recommended level you should especially do the fight this way...on a side note, the second we entered the arena our NIN d/c'ed never to come back.

Our PT setup was the following...

75PLD (But only had 60 gear cause she was doing BCNM60 and helped us...very nice of her)
65RNG (Me)
66RDM
63MNK
63SAM
75BLM (Also just helping on the mission)

I read a lot of stuff about the mission and thought we were very prepared for it, had echo drops, had plans what to do in certain situations. We agreed to follow Allakhazam's guide and kill PLD > BLM > RNG.

The PLD obviously has a huge amount of HP and defense, it is a very long fight. The longer a fight goes on, the more time there is for $(*% to hit the fan =P. Eventually the BLM and RNG woke up, and BLM was resisting Sleep and Silence >.<

Things went wrong and people started to die starting with the BLM, then RDM, then tank and the rest of us. After we got out the friends of the PLD who joined us started asking what went wrong, we explained the PLD took too long to kill, random problems happened.

This is when we found out that this guide sucked. The people there were pretty **** and were saying the best thing to do was BLM > RNG > PLD. So we tried this...ES Sleepga II, start fighting the BLM...quickly dies, no problem. Were fighting the RNG now, its dieing quick again, but it started to use its abilities, eventually does massive DMG to our PLD and kills him, the ant PLD resists sleep more than any of the mobs, and if it does sleep will wake up quickly. Having an awake PLD and RNG NM when you don't have a tank is deadly. We all ran to retreat and no one made it, I made it there with 900 HP and 2 shadows up...shadows got knocked down and started taking damage and couldn't run away from the fight.

I think this is a huge problem SE should fix, if you're standing there wanting to escape and were in the situation I was in you should be able to. But if you're getting hit it will keep telling you Event Skipped. So I died and the PT out there gave R1 to everyone except their PLD who got R3...kinda messed up if you ask me, they could have at least given R3 to the 75BLM helping our group.

The PLD had to join his BCNM group who was ready again so we didn't get to go in again. But I am convinced BLM > PLD > RNG would have had a much higher chance of survival no matter what you're group consists of. BLM is easy to kill which makes sense to get it out of the way first. PLD does not stay asleep, also RNG is very dangerous and will more than likely kill a member of your PT. RNG is also fairly easy to sleep and keep asleep. So take down the PLD, which will take a little more time, but shouldn't be a problem. When you fight the RNG if the tank does die, sleep the RNG and raise the tank and wait for weakness to wear off and finish the bastid off.

Keep in mind if you do have a well organized group with higher level people all of what I'm saying does not necesarily apply to you. Infact if you are 70+ pt killing PLD should be much easier to you and would make sense to kill first, but the guide should remind people of the time it takes to kill the PLD if you're group does not consist of a "recommended" setup.

Note: Waiting for 2 in game friends who I did ZM5 with to finish Ifrit's Cauldron fragment, then they're forming their own group to do ZM6 that I'm joining. I'll post how that goes after its over. One of them is 73 BST, other 70 BLM. Should be interesting. Good luck to all!

Edit: Just completed the fight very succesfully. The setup this time was the following.

70NIN
65RNG (Me)
73BRD
70BLM
72WHM
74BST

This was overkill and a perfect setup. At no time was anyone's HP yellow, between Sleepga and Lullaby they were never awake for more than the casting time. We tried out the order I stated before, BLM > PLD > RNG. Everything went flawlessly. Were so pleased with the awesomeness of our group were gonna see if we can do ZM8 =D.

Edited, Sun Jun 26 07:57:22 2005
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RE: Horrible Guide
# Jul 14 2005 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Reading this Post I am convinced that I am the PLD that helped you that night since it all sounds very familiar to me.

I think what you posted here was very helpful to anyone going in on this mission after what we encountered. I know my friends were a bit "cocky" but they were just getting irratated that I kept dying and that they were forced to wait on continuing our BCNM60 run, and the run we had just done before you guys showed up ended failed due to the WHM DCing (if I remember correctly).

I remember the WHM being away or something during the raising so I think that is why there was no R3s given, and they were very **** bent on getting me R3s because I don't really xp on PLD at all and I am not that far into lvl on it. And I really did not even need to agree to help let alone insist that the whm give R3's to all. The other members of our group thought they were being nice and giving raises to hurry things along while the WHM was away.

I know I did not owe any explaination but I just saw this and I sort of felt like all that time I spent trying to help you guys in that situation and the many deaths and such I had and it just sounded a bit like you were bashing my friends, and I will not stand for that because they are good people. I was the one who decided to help at thier expense and well I never asked for anything from you guys because I didn't mind helping, and they didn't ask for anything from you guys either.

I was actually ready to go in on a 3rd fight with you guys (because at that point I was determined to win and I thought you guys were cool players) but they were getting tired and in fact we never even finished our BC runs because someone had to get to sleep.

Anyways not even sure you will see this at all but had to make that clear.

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RE: Horrible Guide
# Dec 15 2005 at 2:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Viseziox wrote:
Quote:

Our PT setup was the following...

75PLD (But only had 60 gear cause she was doing BCNM60 and helped us...very nice of her)
65RNG (Me)
66RDM
63MNK
63SAM
75BLM (Also just helping on the mission)


panchanneko wrote:

Quote:
I remember the WHM being away or something during the raising so I think that is why there was no R3s given, and they were very **** bent on getting me R3s because I don't really xp on PLD at all and I am not that far into lvl on it. And I really did not even need to agree to help let alone insist that the whm give R3's to all. The other members of our group thought they were being nice and giving raises to hurry things along while the WHM was away.


Edited, Thu Dec 15 13:21:42 2005
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I hereby want to thank the following people for helping me get ZM6

Khmerboi
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Pitbull
Judd

THANK YOU AGAIN!

Our PT setup was NIN/SAM/DRK/BLM/WHM/RDM
Aside from our NIN who got an unlucky hit from EES we did fine... btw dont fight Antica on darksday. They really resist sleep a lot then.
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# May 23 2005 at 12:13 AM Rating: Decent
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the directions are just backwards, go in the "hidden" tunnel @c-11, then go to the entrance to quicksand caves @d-12. sitting at my other computer looking at the position now.

like dakren said, would be nice to have this fixed so people don't get all confused ^^;

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Please, correct this, I had an alliance out searching D-12 for a zone line for a good 10 minutes. The secret cave is at D-11 on the southwest corner of the map. ^_^
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By the way: the directions that Allakazham give are either unclear or wrong. After you zone into the quicksand caves. Go thru the first door you see and hug the left wall. Go thru the next door you see on the left and fall down that hole. When you come to a fork in the path take the left fork. This will take you to the chamber of oracles.
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# May 17 2005 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
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We took this on yesterday with the following setup: whm, nin x2, blm x3. Blms slept the mobs and nuked them down one by one, taking the pld 1st, the blm 2nd and the rng 3rd. There was a early death which I raised immediately due to an unexpected awakening of the blm ant when I silenced it. Whether this was just poor luck or if silence wakes these NM's I leave to your guesses. Later another of blms kicked when the rng ant used EES. That was a quick blm death if ive ever seen one. Yeow. This fight took a little longer than your standard party since it relied on heavy magic damage. I wouldn't recommend using this set-up unless you have a bit of gil to burn on yags, pamamas, hiethers and hipots. Between this fight and the ZM8 fight we did an hour later we went thru some decent cash for meds. Aldoron and Stinkywinky were our nin tanks and did a SPECTACULAR job. Exodusio, (sp?) Spectros and the anonymous blm whose name I cannot remember (Sorry) did a great job blowing those ants up.
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We beat these 3 ants last night with most of our group between the levels of 62-64. i think only myself, lv. 70 blm/whm and maybe another mage was over level 65. The fight was'nt easy but it was fun. Once the pld. was beat we all rested back up while I and the rdm kept the other 2 ants slept. Killed the blm ant 2nd, he was a pushover. The rng ant killed myself with 10% of his health left. I cast blizzard 3 just as he used his hate reset move, the whm died also. It took us 20 min. or so to win. Just remember to keep at the pld ant, if you can beat him the other 2 are easy. Also if you have a pld have him use invincible if the rng. ant uses eagle eye. Also, even though they are "impossible to guage" when you check them, I would guess that to me, a lv. 70, that they would be about vt.
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# Mar 04 2005 at 3:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Just a suggestion, kill the rng last, his two hour will most likly 1 shot kill any party member. He did to our lvl 74 Mnk ><. That way if someone does die to his 2 hour your not trying to finish off the other one or two nm's without a 6th party member. Other than that, it's like any other bcnm battle, pretty much a pushover. ^^
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# Jan 30 2005 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
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Ok we did this with a very strange setup.

66 PLD/WAR
70 RDM/BLM
62 RDM/BLM
61 THF/NIN
66 WHM/BLM
67 BLM/WHM

We fought in the order PLD > RNG > BLM. The THF and I were the only melee and we didn't figure out a skillchain before going in. The organization on this was obviously not very good. I thought we were goners. It was a long hard fight, but we finished it...in *cough* 21 minutes >_>. The PLD took the longest to kill. It had a bunch of HP! After getting it down to about 1/4 of it's HP it startted spamming Sand Trap. For those of you who remember exp'ing off ants in quicksand caves, Sand Trap is an AoE hate reset. It petrifies you for 2 rl seconds then resets all your hate...of course then rushing the mages. It's ok if they doi it once of twice...but he did it like 6 times from having 1/4 life left to dead. I had to use all my ja' then Cover, then my 2 hour...it was horrid. At that point I thought we were all screwed...that was only 1 our of 3 of the ants. So PLD went down and everybody healed. BLM kept sleepga up very well and 70 RDM backed him up with sleep 2. We were all 75% full MP and decided we were going to run out of time at that rate...so let's keep going. We went for the RNG. The RNG hits fast and hard...it's ranged accuracy is **** good too. It would shoot me then hit me then shoot me then hit me. It was very hard to cure myself b/c it kept interrupting me. I still managed to keep hate well. (only time I would ever lose hate, was when they would use "Sand Trap".) The rangers special attack hit me for like 700. But my WHM was able to keep me alive with np (I have 1230 HP so it wasn't too bad). The ranger took less time to kill than the PLD...we got him down. Now we only had the BLM left. We all started healing and it started casting Burst on me.....great. Luckily my BLM unhealed and stunned it, RDM sleep 2 ed it, other RDM silenced it. They saved my **** quick. I only had like 700 HP left at the time...I would have been toast. We healed again to about 3/4 full and went for it. (at this point we were mostly freaked out b/c we thought we were going to run out of time.) The BLM ant was too weak. We slaughtered him...no doubt the easiest one to kill. (I forgot to mention I expected to get the AoE silence alot...we maybe got it 5 times combining all the ants, and got Sand Trap atleast 10). Finished it in 21 and some odd minutes...and got yet another excellent cutscene (yay!). So...there is hope in this BCNM without a conventional party setup...just be smart and expect to take a looooong time in the BCNM :)

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Easier than I'd expected
# Jan 27 2005 at 2:56 AM Rating: Good
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Wow, this one was so easy I couldn't stop laughing.


My static party took them on tonight, before going on to the ZM8 battle (also a pushover).


NIN/WAR
WAR/NIN
MNK/WAR
BRD/WHM
RDM/BLM
WHM/BLM

All level 70.


We slept them, and took on the PLD antican first.

He used Invincible, but he went down without any trouble.

We took on the RNG next. He never had the chance to use his 2hr.

We killed the BLM last.

The fight took about 4 minutes.

A competent party at level 70 will have no problem with this at all.
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    Here is a video of the fight =P check it out.
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    # Jan 17 2005 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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    Our LS got together a group for sky access (one person already had sky).

    7? Nin/War
    71 Pld/War
    68 Pld/War
    71 Blm/Whm
    71 Blm/Whm
    70 Whm/Sum
    60 Whm/Sum
    71 Whm/Blm
    5? Whm/Blm
    65 Rdm/Blm (me)
    70 Rdm/??
    7? Rdm/??
    65 Rdm/Blm
    70 Drk/Thf
    7? Drg/War
    68 Sam/??

    We went 3/3 with a little rearranging. Usually, I remember all the parties that go, but with our rearranging, I only remember mine:

    71 Pld/War
    7? Nin/War
    65 Rdm/Blm (me)
    7? Rdm/??
    71 Blm/Whm
    ?? Whm/Blm


    The order we did it was Blm>Rng>Pld. Rdms shared sleeping duties. I enfeebled the sleeping Ants while the other Rdm enfeebled the awake Ant. Blm died quickly. Silened him so he didn't get any magic off. Rng died pretty quick too. He did ESS off, but didn't one-shot kill anyone. Pld took a little while to kill. Also, slightly annoying cuz as soon as he was unsilened he spamed Cure spells.

    All casters took Echo Drops, so AOE silence wasn't a big deal. No one died on any of the three runs either. Only close call was when someone got lost coming out of the BC.


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    # Jan 12 2005 at 5:59 AM Rating: Decent
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    Just to comment i'd recommend blm pld rng as the best way to fight this BCNM. The blm if he wakes up and uses a ~ga spell your PT will be hurting, he also dies really fast ES sleepga kept the other 2 slept for 75% of his life and sleep II put the pld right back to sleep. Ranger last in case someone dies from EES you can sleep the ranger and raise and regroup without having to worry about any other mob around.
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    # Jan 05 2005 at 9:25 PM Rating: Decent
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    If you have had any good practice doing BCMN's you know sleep is the main key in controlling the fight. However we found the best way to beat them in order was doing the BLM last since the PLD and RNG gave the most problems. Go for the PLD first since it has sleep resist natural ability, it obviously has the most DEF so it's hp widdles away slowly. BLM dies the quickest so do the RNG next because it's 2hr completely took out our 70 NIN in one shot.

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    We did this mission 3 times yesterday since people werent on all at the same time..
    All I can say is it's really not bad at all.

    1st run we did with 5 people
    72thf
    73sam
    73rdm
    70smn
    65whm
    Rdm focused on sleeping and keeping the other mages healed.
    Smn opened up on the pld with levithans spinndrive or whatever its called and he held hate for a bit till me and the sam renkeid with light then I tanked for the rest of it. Then we rested a little bit after the pld and went to the blm where the sam voked and i took hate when I closed with sharkbite for light.

    Notes: Sharkbite was doing 1k+dmg with no trick partner and light was resisted barely or did full dmg. I never got hit with any melee hits so apparently blink and high evasion > than these mobs. I think i took a total of 200 dmg throughout the whole fight from the AOE.

    Keep the pld and blm silenced at all times and this is a simple fight. I'm not sure how much the rng EES wouldve done since he tried it while blink was up.
    These guys are basically just like normal anticans with a bit more HP, at least for the Pld and they dont have high evasion or defense.

    Did it again with a 73 pld and swapped the 70 smn for a 65 rdm. The pld took a bit of dmg and we were kinda low on MP when we finished but we didntn even bother resting mp after the pld. Finished in 10 mins

    Did it a 3rd time with:
    72thf
    75mnk
    73pld
    70rng
    65rdm
    69rdm
    The rdms forgot to silence the blm and he got a couple 'ga spells so we all ended up in the yellow at one time or another and with only 2 mages both subbing blm we had slight healing issues and hardly any of us played together before so we had some renkei problems(i.e. missed all but 1). But with mnk and rng and myself just going all out we finished in a little over 5 mins and the mnk almost died when he pulled too much hate and the rng EES him and hit a few other shots in. Was the closest callsof the 3 fights be we finished by far the fastest.
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    Please don't EVER try this if the majority of your party is less than level 65. We tried this tonight with a party of 62-65(RDM, SAM, BRD, WHM, DRK, NIN) and yeah... it just wasn't working. 3 deaths! We just don't know when to give up! And we never even killed a single one of the ants.

    If you are going to go in at a low level the majority of your party, ESPECIALLY the people in charge of sleeping the mobs, almost HAVE to be higher level. Otherwise you'll just have a lot of pain and frustration on your hands.
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    Please don't EVER try this if the majority of your party is less than level 65. We tried this tonight with a party of 62-65(RDM, SAM, BRD, WHM, DRK, NIN) and yeah... it just wasn't working. 3 deaths! We just don't know when to give up! And we never even killed a single one of the ants.

    If you are going to go in at a low level the majority of your party, ESPECIALLY the people in charge of sleeping the mobs, almost HAVE to be higher level. Otherwise you'll just have a lot of pain and frustration on your hands.
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    Byaina
    Elvaan 56WHM/61THF/66SAM/37NIN/37BLM/34WAR/31MNK/23RNG
    Clothcraft 79+1 | Woodworking 59 | Bonecraft 55+1 | Leathercraft 53 | Fishing 44 | Smithing 43 | Goldsmithing 41 | Cooking 33 | Alchemy 12
    Bastok Rank 8
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