Under Observation  

Im lookin for two other people to do this with quite a few times, i have Blue Mage and Red Mage. Hit me up if your interested names puggy and im on lakshmi

Would a SAM work with any set of jobs for this BCNM?

did this bcnm tonight, ive always done it as 3blm and its too easy, but my friends and i were bored so i say wth get ur blu's i'll go drk. We start out they take left and right eye and i stun the middle eye, i kite him up and down just stunning him when needed. first run, both blu's die and i escape, second run killed 2 eyes and started to beat the big eye and ran outta time >< doh, 3rd try i kite the big eye and jag (blu) killed his eye b4 whitedove (other blu) killed hers and went to finish hers off too, meanwhile i say ok rest up i'll take the eye for one more run when i get back be ready, i use my powder bootsw after i get the eye to the bottom of the bcnm and run back uptop to recast shadows n rest mp for a sec. eye gets up we start to pound it and it spams firaga and bindga and i got para so i couldnt get stun off for crap ><. finally para wears off blu's are outta mp (this is 3rd try, we were outa food and yag drinks) and so i stun the eye and kite him for one last run down. then i get to the bottom and he gets a bindga off on me, oh man im dead i thought but no, he turns and just runs back up to the blu's they get up and he petras them >< and i finally get unbinded "here i come guys!" i get about halfway there and therse the eye again, he binds me and runs off again >< i'm pissed by this time cuz he's just killing time. finally unbound i run up and we beat him to death finally without much prob got an aspir off so i could stun his firaga this time. he dies we haul balls to the chest and pop the chest bam! nothing >< lol worse drops ive ever seen :( and we completed it in 14mins 59 secs >.> only 1 sec left lol. hope u guys have better luck on drops.

Did three BLM strategy. First time went lousy, which we think was due to two of the BLMs not having Stonega II. EleSeal + StonegaII did close to 200 dmg, while StonegaI did about 50. Wiped, reraised, tried again, and died again.

Next fight we had another BLM come with StonegaII to switch out with one of the one's that did not. We beat it pretty easily this time. Strategy:

Melon Pie, Protectra & Shellra, Blink, Re-raise, Aquaveil, Shock Spikes, Rest to full, Barfira, Elemental Seal, Yagudo Drink

StonegaII (the BLM with no StonegaII used something else - they said TierII)
Blizzaga
Thundaga
(repeat)

Killed it pretty quickly. Nothing interesting was in the chest. Next fight we died. It can be pretty easy to get unlucky with three BLM strategy. If one mob gets on one person and you can't pry them off it can go bad quickly. Next run was successful, and Ni dropped.

I wouldn't mind doing this BCNM again.

My psycho lvl 40 bst/nin friend of mine forced my lvl 38 blu/nin to try and duo this BC, but we won 8D

It was pretty close though, I spent about 20k on meds and almost used them all.

Anyway, we go in, he calls Tiger Familiar, we buff up and whatnot and wait 3 minutes for call beast to cool down a little. Since this was our first run, we weren't too sure about how long we should wait, but 3 minutes proved beyond sufficient. Once we were ready, he sends his kitty on the Sobbing Eyes and lets all 3 eyes aggro it while he runs away. Once he is far enough, he uses heel and starts kiting 2 eyes while I start killing a Compound Eyes.

Alternating between Screwdriver and Bludgeon while headbutting spells and backward tanking worked out quite well. I managed to kill a compound eyes in about a minute while burning through roughly 150-200ish MP. Once my eyes were dead I began recovering some MP via mulsum as my bst friend brought the eyes back up. I grabbed the other compound eyes and went to work while he held off the Sobbing eyes some more. The second Compound Eyes was a lot tougher than the first; I had to burn through 250-300ish MP to kill him.

Once both lesser eyes were felled, I began resting while my bst friend let his tiger fight to the death, at which point he used an Antlion jug and began working on the sobbing eyes. Once I recovered a sufficient amount of MP I began fighting. The last battle was pretty close, I was practically out of MP and HP, but we won.

All in all, we got about 10k worth of junk ._.;

Some side notes:
I used 3 HiPotions +3, 2 yagudo drinks (another one would have helped greatly, my second one wore off shortly after the death of the second Compound Eyes) and 8 mulsum (bought a stack for 14k so I had a good 4 to spare). My friend walked in with 6 HiPotions, but gave me 3 near the end of the fight (all of which I burned through). He only used one.

You really have to be careful when fighting these eyes. All it takes is a split second for it to use Hex Eyes on you and screw you over big time. On my second Compound Eyes I actually got hit by Hex Eyes and had to kite it a bit so as to not get my ass handed to me. The paralysis doesn't last long, but it's incredibly potent, acting more like stun than paralyze.

If you're kiting the Sobbing eyes, make sure to keep a huge distance between you and him. 1 breakga is all he needs to mess you up big time. If you're kiting as a beastmaster, make sure you keep a large space between you and your pet; on our first run, my friend didn't leave much space and he pulled too much hate through the use of heel.

Also, if you're going to be insane mofos like us, try to be lvl 40. Both of you. Those extra 2 levels would helped greatly (Chain affinity, +15 accuracy from gear, more MP, more attack from gear, etc.)

And finally, good luck to anyone trying this BCNM.

any good strategies to do this BCNM?

Ok I have a good friend that got a random /tell by someone named Jakewyler, my friend was a NIN 63 and he always wanted to do this BCNM, well when he mentioned the name many of us in our Linkshell knew the name Jakewyler for the BCNM con who randomly invites NINs to join, has them use their orb and steals their drops by disbanding after opening a chest.

Now Jakewyler works with a RDM partner, forgot the name but they are in the same LS.

Caution, we were very curious on how this group could manage to steal BCNM rewards. We thought that well from what we heard Jake is always leader then disbands after opening chest, I believed that is cause leaders keep loot when no one lots or something.

I was way wrong, my friend demanded leadership to see if he disbanded he wouldnt lose his items.

After winning the BCNM, Jake opened the chest quickly and before my friend could even see the drops, he left the pt. Now at first I was confused why my friend still didnt get the items. I believe it is because Jake opened the chest and since pt disbanded he gets the rights.

So even though we figured we could out beat the CON, we still lost and to this day no idea what items were dropped that night. So do not BCNM with these people, your best bet is to do this with friends or trusted linkshell members, since the only way to lose to these people is if they open your chest or you just dont go with them.

It's sad tehre are people out there like this, hopefully SE will figure something out to solve this BCNM issue that is making it easy for not just selfish meanies, but this can also be taken advantage of by RMTs, and we wont need anymore of them causing bad economy.

Final note this happened on Fairy server, and from what I heard in Whitegate, Jakewyler and his partner rhm has coned atleast 20+ ppl or more. ;_; Be careful everyone, these 2 know what their doing.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 3:37pm by Kesala

Can this be done with PLD+BLM+BLM? Any thougths on that setup? Yes, BLMx3 would be ideal, but my BLM is level 6 and I really don't want to level a mage job...ever.

the big eye does not do a petrify AOE WS... he casts petrifyga(sp) the only way to dodge it is by running out of range. As for this bcnm ive actually duoed it, me being rdm with a nin , i kite 2 eyes while he picks off little eyes one by 1 and then wed team up on big eye.

Just did 6 runs today no luck on money drops -.-. Any way our set up was rdm/nin (me) blue/nin and nin/war. Basicly nin and blue fight the small eyes at the side backwards wile the kiter kits the big eye. What I did war reraise, earring, stoneskin, ustemi and aquavile after zoning in then rest full mp. After that run to the top but dont enter the circle stand right next to it. Next cast barfire and barparalzye(this is crucial btw adventualy going to get bad luck and get hit). The big eye only uses 3 spells breakga, firga, and bindga and has longer range then you, which meens if you cant cast on him if he stops to cast at you at maximum range which he will do. Open up the fight with gravity on the big eye then run back toward the entrance. Stay just in range(where your marker is on him) but do not run out of range. keep statying at maxium range but still have marker on mob. This way you will be able to see when his gravity wears off. This is another important part here, when gravity wears off do not recast it wait for him to catch up to you and cast a spell. Now run out of range,(only about 5-10 steps depeding on race), keep in mind his range bigger than normal mobs. Now once he starts chaising him take a few steps foward and cast gravity, or bind if that is not back up yet, and run back toward the circle where he originaly spawned. Note you must run past him so run at his side so no paralyze. If this is done correctly he will melee you once and try to paralyze you, giving you enough time to get out of casting range. At this point your team mates should of killed the other 2 eyes. Let the nin get hate and tank backwards, blu headbut any thing he tries to cast. cure 3 the nin asap and regen the blu or yourself to conserve mp. When run out of mp run out of range and convert and cure your self so you will not get hate. Also another note only use gravity or bind, 1 at time, when kiting so he doesn't catch you with a spell as he cast very quickly and has long range. You can use all other debuffs after nin gets hate all of them will stick, except silence and sleep. Good luck to any one who kites this eye I know it sounds hard but after second run only had 1 close call and got pretty good at it.

Edited, Jul 6th 2007 9:52pm by blulight

Did this today with all Blu's. We didn't think it would work, but it did. After we killed the 2 Compound Eyes we rested while the other just kited the Sobbing Eye. Got close to full then killed it. We didn't get anything but junk. So we are going to try again.

Just did this as nin/rdm (me) nin/war, and rdm/whm. Went 3/3, and PCC AND Utsusemi: Ni dropped on first try, but we got garbage on the other two orbs. Make sure you have ALL Ni spells as nin's simply nuke and keep shaddows up, while having their backs turned towards the two lesser eyes while the rdm kites the main mob until two lessers are dead. I didn't have Suiton: Ni and Doton: Ni and it made it a pain in the butt for the rdm and the other nin, but we still had success all 3 runs. Good luck! It's really not that hard of a bcnm if you do it right!


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RDM BST BST doesn't work.

One BST cannot take a sobbing eyes on his own, the pets are just paralyzed too much for it to work. Unless the RDM is very talented and can kite two at once, don't try this configuration, BST BST BST is much safer.

Me and 2 friends did this last night. Under Observations was new to us, but we had a strategy going in. We're 4 out of 6 on this so far. No PCC or anything that's worth while.

All in all this was fun and I'm looking forward to doing more when ever we get the chance.

As to the strategy... Really simple, brd kites the to lower eyes and blu and nin pounded on the bigger one. Once the big is down, blu and nin moves to the other smaller one until each one is dead. Simple!!! As to the details of how to beat this BCNM... every other post below has it. We just learn from our mistakes as we go along. Good Luck!!!

This was my first bcnm and for all those who are hesitant there is really nothing to worry about. Certainly a dynamic fight, it's really fast and they hit hard; don't expect a long battle. Here's how it went:

We went into the battle as 3 BLM's, with the best lvl 40 armor and spells (I don't recommend raping the AH with all your money and feeling the need to purchase every spell you see for the cap, STONEGA II, THUNDAGA, and WATERGA was all that I used.)

When you first enter the burning circle your heart will be racing quite fast because of the fast paced music and your nervous system telling you to perform well. Buff up! Protectra, shellra, ice spikes, rolanberry pie, elemental seal, etc. run by the mobs and don't face them for AOE petrify.

From here we used a countdown 3...2....1.... and everyone casted STONEGA II at the same time, then THUNDAGA, then WATERGA. By this time the two lesser mobs should be dead, so just use tier 2 spells on the main mob.

0/6 on the PCC, but with my one orb I managed to get UTSESMI: NI worth 400K!!!!

am thinking about doing this BCNM and was wondering what a good pt setup is that is almost guaranteed to win if nothing goes wrong. thx

Well, I ended up trying "Under Observation" as bard, b/c I was needing Utsu: Ni myself, and figured why not. The thread here has a bard attesting to successfully sleeping the 2 compound eyes while the 1 sobbing eye is killed first, so that was going to be my plan. Went brd/nin with a nin/whm and nin/rdm. I figured I'd elegy the sobbing the pull the compounds towards me and have the nins immediately grab the sobbing. Didn't work out so well. Sobbing immediately started off with breakga, petrifying us all. My horde had gone off, but once they were awake, and us petri, it was only a matter of time. I died, nins were able to take the sobbing, I rr'd and slept the compounds again, but ended up eating a firaga or something, so we wiped.

I was willing to try again w/o pulling the sobbing first, but the nin/whm, experienced as he was with the fight, was determined that kiting the sobbing was the only way. So I wound up being the kiter, lol. I began by putting ballad and Learned Etude on the nins for their soling of the compounds (I wound up doing mambo on our fifth run b/c they weren't using magic much till the sobbing), then double paeoning myself. I elegy'd the sobbing, then ran down the hill, hugging the outer edge of the arch to maximize kiting distance. Quite a few times I got hit by bindga right off the bat (once I didn't even have shadows up, oops), but between the paeon regen and putting shadowns back up, I survived until bind wore and recommenced kiting. At about 2/3 of the way down I paused to recast shadows, at the bottom I recast one paeon, waited for the sobbing to catch up, then run past hit and back up the hill. The very first time I turned around at the bottom too quick, and one nin messed up at his start so had a slow time killing his compound, so I did about 2 passes up and down the hill, but all the times afterwards by the time I had kited down the hill and was nearing the top, the nins had finished their fighting and took the sobbing. I peaoned or balladed them and gave them a new etude, and they worked on the sobbing without any hitches.

I guess it wouldn't take much to kite the sobbing, just some form or damage reduction and/or healing. But Brd worked well enough--perhaps not quite as well as rdm, but oh well. Then again, I was able to give the nins a nice +10 INT. Drops sucked though, no PCC (naturally) and no Ni. 80 seals for about 18k lol. Probably will stick to the more reliable bcnms in the future now that I've had my fun here.

we did this bcnm last night and we got 2 peacock charms xd

Did about our 6th run at this last night.
This bcnm so easy. Good rdm, two ok nin, no problems.
rdm/blm
nin/blm
nin/war
All runs made on 100% Full Moon, 4 on firesday and darksday.
We went 7/7 on wins, no problems, even on firesday with firega.
Nin/blm helps tons on Ninjitsu damage, I went /war for a voke.
Only 1/7 on PCC, 3 NI's, 1 Erase, suprised drop rate so bad on a favorable moon phase.
Also would be cool if you could choose the Rare/ex version, if you were keeping.
Now I have to battle with never selling it.
Oh yea, lotted 987 for the PCC, sry Rollover and Bonzi.
Now even sexier galka^^

This also drops:

Erase and Refresh

A person who i became friends with afterwards was doing a random shout in jeuno to do this bcnm and said he needed a blm, now at the time i was a 39 blm (i know, he took a gamble with me). Anyhow, i think he was going with the whole regular setup when ppl dropped out and he decided to quit, but we had me (taru 39blm/whm), him (mithra 40blm/whm), and another taru (40blm/whm). I said, hey, if nin's can do this stuff, then we can too. So with 3 blm/whms, we all went into the bcnm, buffed, walked to the edge of the arena but not to aggro, and here is how we coordinated it.

We lined up, each one to target one of the eyes, I was on the left, mithra middle, other taru on right. The idea was i targeted the left with an AOE and the middle targeted the main and so on so fourth. The recommended spell ofcourse is StonegaII, but for some that's hard to get or if you were like me and went in under lvled i used FiragaII.

Everyone targets their mark, don't cast yet, turn around to avoid petrified, and do a countdown so that you all blast it at the exact same time. Then once the initial spell is cast, just start nuking away and healing yourself when you can. After i say between the 2-4th AOE the two weaker ones drop off and then it's just you three, the big mob, and a stone II marathon. We did this with NO items, though we may have used a manafont every other time.

We got crappy drops for it, but hey, who says 3 blm's can't do anything? :D, {Black Mage} {Power}

If you all have questions or want my help, my taru is Newbusarcanemus on Fenrir server.

Did this as RDM and with a ls mate as nin/war.
The seconds LS Nin/war was offline so we took a random nin/war we shouted for.

I dont know what the hell you all talking here, i read your tactics and we did it exactly like you all said.

buff up > rest to full mp > all go in I ( RDM ) gravity Sobbing Eye and run down hill, but he uses his petri and i was petri and couldnt move.
AND I HAVENT FACED HIM, he was directly behind me.

He also cast Stun, so i was petri,stun and bound, never ever had a chance to kite em for a long time, and the random nin was down to half hp after 10secs. he had shadows up but took damage?
So i went back up to heal him...of course i then took hate from his compound.

So what did we wrong, petri always stick, it does no matter in what direction you watching when he casts it.

Ok so i have seen a post or two about dark knights wanting to do a good BCNM. So I had my doubts today when I got invited to do this BCNM with 2 nin/rdms. I figured what the hell and it turns out to be the quickest 800,000 i have ever made. What you do is have the 2 nin/rdms do their thing by while the DRK casts stun on the Sob eye and takes it all the way down the hill to the burning circle. When you get the the bottom wait for it to catch up with you and stun it again. Then start your run back up the hill. By then the nins should have already killed the other 2 eys. Meet up with them as they tank the eye at the same time start casting their magic.

IMPORTANT! Do not face the sob eye he will petrify you! Face away from him cast aspir, drain and try to either stun firaga or breakaga. Do not engage just nuke I brought 2 Hi-potions and only used one (but i really didn't need to) and the second time around used non. I ate a jack-o for the evasiona and dark magic skill and used a blink band other than that my gear was nothing out of the ordinary. Seriosuly if you can get yourself 2 nins (that know what they are doing) drks do just fine here. Stun helps a lot for shadows and overall damage. I think most partys probably lose to this BCNM because of the fact they one look at the eye or two get breakaga. With a skillful drk to stun these moves it makes this fight so easy. If you have good marksmanship you can turn here and there and shoot it with bloodly bolts too my one shot that i laid hit for 43 dmg.

Good luck I hope this helps you drks looking for an easy way to make some cash. BTW my drops were nothing good the first time around maybe 10k overall (manthra belt, refresh, some lance, mercury) the second time around it dropped a black pearl which sells for like 20k here and Ut NI which almost goes for a mil. If you know how to beat this BCNM it truly is just a gamble you will either make out rich or barely brake even.

I didnt feel like reading all the way down this thing... soo... I was wondering how well this set up would work: nin/war rdm/nin(or whm or blm) brd/nin (or whm). Does sleep stick to the lesser eyes? Can somebody please resond to this >.> lol

Any one know if a PLD RDM MNK could tackle this?