i get annoyed at the people who say "chr doesnt effect hate.. SE says so".

SE says chr does not "directly" effect enmity. It does however effect the rate of stacking.

Hate is gained from damageing a mob, or cureing, or useing an ability. Enmity+ gear makes those actions gather even more hate. Hate is counted and added up in numbers, and will fade as time goes by without other actions happening.


CHR is tricky to explain. CHR determinds prices youll pay, the amount of "intimidations" your killer trait will produce, DMG from wyverns, and tons of other stuff.

CHR effects hate by the rate of hate you lose after stacking it. the higher chr you have, the slower the hate fades away, so "directly" it does not effect enmity, but it does effect it indirectly.

Ask a brd how many times they have gotten hate from just running around playing songs while fighting a god. those fights take long amounts of time and hate stacks up on BRDs and doesnt fade away easily.

Thats about the best i can explain it.

Enmity= the amount of hate youll get for doing an action

Hate= the mobs interest in wanting to direct its rape ability.

CHR= a whole bunch of useful crap, its not just something you forget totaly about.


Well peace out, and to the dumbass who will post behind me and try to contradict me.. shutup.. shhh... no.. shhhh... i said shhhh.... dont make me shhh you...

Enmity is not just for provoke like someone posted.

You can think of it as a multiplier for hate. Enmity + items will help the wearer generate more hate with every attack. That's right it does nothing by itself, not sure what it does to make provoke more potent, if anything at all. You have to do somehting that already generates hate like attack to benefit from enmity. I mean the mob won't simply hate you and beat you just because you are waring the item.

When you attack and cause damage, you cause a certain level of hate. Having enmity items will either lessen or multiply the generated hate depending if its a - or + item.

It works on every action you do, so I guess the easiest way to explain it is to say it is a hate multiplier. Therefore if you have enought enmity it could be true that you could theoretically generate more hate with a lower delay/damage weapon that has less DOT due to the fact that you simply it the mob more often. Every hit has Enmimity applied to it so swinging more often and benefiting from enmity may generate more hate than dealing more damage with enough enmity. I'm not an expert on this though, just throwing it out there for discussion.

So the same person witout any Enmity gear, dealing the same damage, provoking at the same 30s interval will have less effective hate than someone with the gear. Again, the hate multiplier description seems to fit the bill.

wish there was some negative enmity items for my level.. i mean there probobly are but way too expensive

thx for the great info...i was wondering what enmity was also and after reading these responses...i now know.

i am lvl 54 NIN/WAR (Blink Tank) and i just got 2 Eris's Earrings with Emnity +2 each for 100k a pop. every pt m in WHM BLM love me for it , the mob sticks to me whether i provoke or not lol. the only time i had to provoke is when our WHM felt overconfident and did seal curaga while engaged!and i only provoked it back ~! for me it's doin perfect!

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NIN54 WAR38 RDM51 SMN28 BLM30 THF21 etc etc...

i heard that enmity is a MULTIPLIER to hate... it this true?

Can someone please explain to me what exactly Enmity does for you in game? thanks:)