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Spell details for Flare
| Jobs/Level: | Black Mage, lvl 60 |
|---|---|
| MP cost: | 383 |
| Element: | Fire |
| Scroll: | Scroll: Flare |
| Duration: | N/A |
| Reuse: | 44.5 Seconds |
| Cast time: | 19 seconds |
| Target Type: | Single |
| Description: | Concentrated Fire Attack that lowers the target's resistance to Water. |
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Welcome to the Thunderdome, Bitch
Name: Saintluke
War- 31 Mnk- 15 Nin- 7 Sam- 5 Rng- 2
Server: Gilgamesh
Linkshells: Sayestopepsi, Dragonshard
Name: Saintluke
War- 31 Mnk- 15 Nin- 7 Sam- 5 Rng- 2
Server: Gilgamesh
Linkshells: Sayestopepsi, Dragonshard
Currently 980k-1M on Sylph due to the nice inflation rate we have going on.
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this spell costs around 50k in ragnarok
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XI
(Retired) 2004-2008 ( He lies in Uleguerand Range, under the cold white snow ).
Bosco Firebrander, Gladiator of Thanalan.
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(Retired) 2004-2008 ( He lies in Uleguerand Range, under the cold white snow ).
fire IV is better than flare ?
srry if the question is stupid but my blm is only 18 ><
srry if the question is stupid but my blm is only 18 ><
Eladamri on Asura
My job and lvl ? why do you want to know ?
I won´t say it : /anon
Thank you for reading my post
My job and lvl ? why do you want to know ?
I won´t say it : /anon
Thank you for reading my post
*casts slapga 4 on the thread*
AM is just cool fireworks, lots of fun to do/watch when farming as/with a lv 60+ blm. Also good finishing move. Decent for MBs pre-60 (AM in general). In all, not efficient enough to be used often in exp parties. But... as I said in another post, its always nice to have a complete spellbook. At the very least, it gives you more buttons and flashy lights which is the entire reason why I <3 blm XD
And really... move the ultima discussion to the misc. board where it belongs. Now.... off to level blm some more so i can randomly freeze little rabbits in west ronfaure >:)
AM is just cool fireworks, lots of fun to do/watch when farming as/with a lv 60+ blm. Also good finishing move. Decent for MBs pre-60 (AM in general). In all, not efficient enough to be used often in exp parties. But... as I said in another post, its always nice to have a complete spellbook. At the very least, it gives you more buttons and flashy lights which is the entire reason why I <3 blm XD
And really... move the ultima discussion to the misc. board where it belongs. Now.... off to level blm some more so i can randomly freeze little rabbits in west ronfaure >:)
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Character: Keba
Server: Shiva
Job/S.Job: 75 Blm/37 Rdm
75 War/37 Thf|Sam
75 Sam/37 War|Thf
Thunder Potency: Level 5
Elemental Magic: Level 2 (+4 skill)
Critical Hit+ : Level 2 (+2%)
MP+ : Level 1 (+10MP)
Double Attack+ : Level 1 (+1%)
AMII : All, less QuakeII
Great Katana : Level 2 (+4 Lv)
Great Sword : Level 2 (+4 Lv)
Dark Magic : Level 2 (+4 Lv)
Server: Shiva
Job/S.Job: 64 Sam/32 War
Character: Keba
Server: Shiva
Job/S.Job: 75 Blm/37 Rdm
75 War/37 Thf|Sam
75 Sam/37 War|Thf
Thunder Potency: Level 5
Elemental Magic: Level 2 (+4 skill)
Critical Hit+ : Level 2 (+2%)
MP+ : Level 1 (+10MP)
Double Attack+ : Level 1 (+1%)
AMII : All, less QuakeII
Great Katana : Level 2 (+4 Lv)
Great Sword : Level 2 (+4 Lv)
Dark Magic : Level 2 (+4 Lv)
7 posts
this spell can be useful in spellbursts... but people are usually to stuptid to be able to time it right
/ma "Flare" <t>
/p i am cating flare, to a skill chain in 25
/wait 20
/p ready skill chain
/wait 5
/p go!!!
but still... people jump the gun and to it as soon as i start casting... and it does a nice amount of damage when it bursts... but FiragaIII works better.
/ma "Flare" <t>
/p i am cating flare, to a skill chain in 25
/wait 20
/p ready skill chain
/wait 5
/p go!!!
but still... people jump the gun and to it as soon as i start casting... and it does a nice amount of damage when it bursts... but FiragaIII works better.
when you die... you think everything is over... and then a whm raises you, and you just die again.
When you undercut in the auction houses, it hurts us poor people who are trying to make a decent dollar...
lvl18 Blm lvl9 Whm ... yes... thats it
When you undercut in the auction houses, it hurts us poor people who are trying to make a decent dollar...
lvl18 Blm lvl9 Whm ... yes... thats it
even SE calls it Magic Burst -.-
Anyway, your macro is fun. . .have u ever gotten any MB with macro before the mob was down at 5% HP ? <.<
Also the Tier IV and -ga III spells do around same (or more) dmg for less MP (tier IV) and alot less cast time. Also AM MB's are not that great to various facts, not only MP cost and cast time, but also the insane amounts of hate that dmg causes (if it does not kill) or the endless waste of MP (if it kills) with the mob way less HP left then the dmg you do. Hard part is not to HIT the goddamn MB but to make sure the MB brings the mob to somewhat 1-3% HP to not mess hate too much nor waste dmg.
Anyway, your macro is fun. . .have u ever gotten any MB with macro before the mob was down at 5% HP ? <.<
Also the Tier IV and -ga III spells do around same (or more) dmg for less MP (tier IV) and alot less cast time. Also AM MB's are not that great to various facts, not only MP cost and cast time, but also the insane amounts of hate that dmg causes (if it does not kill) or the endless waste of MP (if it kills) with the mob way less HP left then the dmg you do. Hard part is not to HIT the goddamn MB but to make sure the MB brings the mob to somewhat 1-3% HP to not mess hate too much nor waste dmg.
Give me Ultima or give me death.
A knight is sworn to valor.
His heart knows only virtue.
His blade defends the helpless.
His might upholds the weak.
His word speaks only truth.
His wrath undoes the wicked.
-The Code of the Knights of Avalon
His heart knows only virtue.
His blade defends the helpless.
His might upholds the weak.
His word speaks only truth.
His wrath undoes the wicked.
-The Code of the Knights of Avalon
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{Death} {You can have this.}
if blm's had ultima it would be WAYYY to cheap unless it was like our 2hour or something...but anyway if blm's had ultima...well it would be cool....but still cheap!
if blm's had ultima it would be WAYYY to cheap unless it was like our 2hour or something...but anyway if blm's had ultima...well it would be cool....but still cheap!
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Actually, I think if they ever do add Ultima, it'll be something like an Avatar's Astral Flow or something. That's the only way it wouldn't be completely ridiculous. I would say Bahamut's, but his will obviously be of the Mega Flare variety. Then again, Mega Flare might just be a normal BP for him, and they'll add something completely insane like Ultima as his Astral Flow. Would be totally sweet, but I doubt it'll happen in any case ._.
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Hrmmm I would like to see flare and meato be multi mage spells. It would be awsome if the whm and the blm had to cast it togher. Wow awsome blm and whms would be the best patners in the game!
#Eragun,
Posted: Jul 06 2004 at 3:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) LMAO this is the most pointless agrgument i have ever heard/read in a forum.....DAMN u ppl have no lives.........*spits in everyones face*
2 posts
I got a friend blm75 and he show me his high power spells and Flare damage = of ThunderIV, but ThunderIV consume - mp
he cast to Wild Rabbits
Cast Flare
The Wild Rabbit takes 1438 points of damage
Cast Thunder
The Wild Rabbit takes 1426 points of damage
he cast to Wild Rabbits
Cast Flare
The Wild Rabbit takes 1438 points of damage
Cast Thunder
The Wild Rabbit takes 1426 points of damage
27 posts
If you like watching people bicker, please read the following posts. Only important information here is flares casting time >18 seconds, mp use 383, damage about the same as fire4, but it looks cooler, and its a rare drop from Dread Demons. happy hunting
Scholar
31 posts
well, this spell is definately the best looking of all the ancients but at a hefty 383 mp cost
now, MB it can do a good 1300ish dmg on IT mob, as compared to fire III's 580-620...just fire III takes less than 1/3 the mp cost. in comparison waterga III can do 1000+ dmg on MB for about 2/3 the mp, and of course blm's final spell, Thunder IV, can MB 1300-1400 depending on, again, conditions, for less than 1/2 the mp cost.
in conclusion its just fireworks :P use it to impress some noobs or kill off an NM.
now, MB it can do a good 1300ish dmg on IT mob, as compared to fire III's 580-620...just fire III takes less than 1/3 the mp cost. in comparison waterga III can do 1000+ dmg on MB for about 2/3 the mp, and of course blm's final spell, Thunder IV, can MB 1300-1400 depending on, again, conditions, for less than 1/2 the mp cost.
in conclusion its just fireworks :P use it to impress some noobs or kill off an NM.
#Damadreas,
Posted: Mar 16 2004 at 5:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I can't believe you morons are arguing over this crap. Get lives kids.
#keekee,
Posted: Mar 05 2004 at 1:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) shut up you bickering old hags
#keekee,
Posted: Mar 05 2004 at 1:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) shut up you bickering old hags
A lvl 68 BLM helping me do ninja quest cast flare on the NM leeches in korrkola tunel for about 1450 dmge, BLM owns! next to my ranger ofcourse :P
Anonymous
So, we have determined the history of Flare and Ultima, but can anyone tell me the average damage this spell does?
To answer the question regarding average flare damage:
if it is pretty much unresisted, count on it doing between 1000-1400 dmg. damage will vary accoring to your intelligence, your weapon (club- gives nothing, fire staff- +10% dmg, HQ fire staff- +15% dmg), and your magic attack bonus. MAB will have one of the biggest influences on your unresisted damage later in the game.
if it is pretty much unresisted, count on it doing between 1000-1400 dmg. damage will vary accoring to your intelligence, your weapon (club- gives nothing, fire staff- +10% dmg, HQ fire staff- +15% dmg), and your magic attack bonus. MAB will have one of the biggest influences on your unresisted damage later in the game.
Character: Micah
Server: Shiva
Job/S.Job: 64 Sam/32 War
Character: Keba
Server: Shiva
Job/S.Job: 75 Blm/37 Rdm
75 War/37 Thf|Sam
75 Sam/37 War|Thf
Thunder Potency: Level 5
Elemental Magic: Level 2 (+4 skill)
Critical Hit+ : Level 2 (+2%)
MP+ : Level 1 (+10MP)
Double Attack+ : Level 1 (+1%)
AMII : All, less QuakeII
Great Katana : Level 2 (+4 Lv)
Great Sword : Level 2 (+4 Lv)
Dark Magic : Level 2 (+4 Lv)
Server: Shiva
Job/S.Job: 64 Sam/32 War
Character: Keba
Server: Shiva
Job/S.Job: 75 Blm/37 Rdm
75 War/37 Thf|Sam
75 Sam/37 War|Thf
Thunder Potency: Level 5
Elemental Magic: Level 2 (+4 skill)
Critical Hit+ : Level 2 (+2%)
MP+ : Level 1 (+10MP)
Double Attack+ : Level 1 (+1%)
AMII : All, less QuakeII
Great Katana : Level 2 (+4 Lv)
Great Sword : Level 2 (+4 Lv)
Dark Magic : Level 2 (+4 Lv)
Anonymous
Flare was originally a non-elemental spell...an influx of energy rather than intense fire.
Taliesyn is quite right....ultima was first introduced in FF2 for the Famicom system in Japan. (Japonese Nintendo). Meteor was introduced in FF3 for the Famicom (which by the way is definatly a contender for best FF). Was kinda cheap actually you get 4 sages and chain cast it and not even that last boss survives =D. The game that famialiarized and popularized Ultima was FF6 (FF3 North America/Europe). Originally you could single target or multiply this spell as well as any other spell in FF2 making the argument for multiple targets vs. one redundant....just my long winded 2 cp. Have a good one and enjoy the game =)
Taliesyn is quite right....ultima was first introduced in FF2 for the Famicom system in Japan. (Japonese Nintendo). Meteor was introduced in FF3 for the Famicom (which by the way is definatly a contender for best FF). Was kinda cheap actually you get 4 sages and chain cast it and not even that last boss survives =D. The game that famialiarized and popularized Ultima was FF6 (FF3 North America/Europe). Originally you could single target or multiply this spell as well as any other spell in FF2 making the argument for multiple targets vs. one redundant....just my long winded 2 cp. Have a good one and enjoy the game =)
Drops from Dread Demons. I've seen a few alliances do these for the sole purpose of getting Flare for the BLMs. Of all the ancients (and on Alexander) only Quake (70k) and Flare (200k) cost more than 10k. Evidently it is a rare drop ^^
Anonymous
Still need info on this spell.
Who drops it (if any), where to get it, damage? casting time?
Who drops it (if any), where to get it, damage? casting time?
Uhh, seeing as I'm not an uber FF fan and this is my first FF, whats the stats on this spell, how much damage does it do, more then Freeze? How long does it take to cast? Someone post the #'s =)
Anonymous
Stop talking about Ultima...it's not even been implemented in this game yet. Know how to check? Target a mob and type "/ma Ultima". it gives you a command error message. Now try typing "/ma Meteor" or "/ma 'Meteor II'" on a mob. It says your character cannot cast Meteor(II), meaning they are in the game, but haven't been made available yet. Same goes for Fenrir(/ma Fenrir <me>).
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you can also do /recast "spell name" for magic not yet implemented...Enjoy!
Anonymous
This is why anonymous posts should be forbidden. Read the rest of this thread.
Anonymous
Also the person who said Ultima > Flare didnt actually say that. They said that Ultima was the most powerful CLASSIC spell. Flare, if I am not mistaken, hasnt been around as long.
Just to play the Devil's advocate...in previous games (I havent checked about this one though) is non-elemental giving it a bit more of usability at some points of the game. Obviously when the window of opportunity to use Flare arises, then that would be the choice, but to those enemies who have a resistance to Fire-based damage, then Ultima would be the better choice.
Just wanna defend good ol' Ultima.
Just to play the Devil's advocate...in previous games (I havent checked about this one though) is non-elemental giving it a bit more of usability at some points of the game. Obviously when the window of opportunity to use Flare arises, then that would be the choice, but to those enemies who have a resistance to Fire-based damage, then Ultima would be the better choice.
Just wanna defend good ol' Ultima.
an intersting note: I just got Final Fantasy I&II: Dawn of souls for the gameboy advance, and in Final Fantasy II, ultima is a WHITE magic spell.
Scholar
32 posts
also i believe that ultima was used in chrono trigger as well. i think it was non elemental damage too.
It was lightning based, Hence why Chrono had it.>_>
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Gah, can't... resist... replying...
There wasn't an Ultima spell in Chrono Trigger, you're thinking of Luminaire.
There wasn't an Ultima spell in Chrono Trigger, you're thinking of Luminaire.
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Anonymous
ultima still may be better, remember its non-elemental
#Anonymous,
Posted: Nov 28 2003 at 11:01 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) to the kid who said ultima is the best .. your stupid .. flare is the best. it causes the most damage in the other final fantasy's and if you dont like that flare is the best to bad... go play somethin else... or better yet go play with your self that way gamers like me dont have to deal with retards like you
#Anonymous,
Posted: Dec 07 2003 at 5:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh my god, that was simply unnecessary. But in regards to Ultima being better than Flare...unless I'm mistaken, PCs cant GET Ultima, leaving Flare as the possible best. Won't know until I try out Fire III and the last Waterga.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Nov 26 2003 at 5:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Shouldn't that be, "because YOU'RE stupid."? Always check your grammar before you insult someone.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Nov 26 2003 at 9:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) In regards to classic Final Fantasy, Nuke stands out as the most damage available in a blm spell. But that's just me. Dang I'm old.....To all those who remember dropping there 2 nukes on WarMachine, you know what I'm talking about!
Anonymous
In regards to classic Final Fantasy, Nuke stands out as the most damage available in a blm spell. But that's just me. Dang I'm old.....To all those who remember dropping there 2 nukes on WarMachine, you know what I'm talking about!
Well I just got Final fantasy I&II: Dawn of souls for the Gameboy advance, and in there they renamed NUKE to Flare.
I always called the blm in FF1 "NUKE"
Just 'cause NUKE: NUKE was funny :D
Just 'cause NUKE: NUKE was funny :D
lol...i remember that and the little crackly crispy graphics you got when it was cast. nuke was awesome.
one more thing. ultima was defined when it first came out as the ultimate spell, so regardless of what you think, square defined it as the best spell. i'm sure they meant that it had the most damage dealing potential out of all spells.... even though meteo(r) came out first. besides...the graphics for ultima were way cooler. it gave a sense of devestating magic.
(i know its not in this game......yet)
the coolest summon ever was FF3(states) Alexander. where that little red beam went across the ground then like a second later everything was incinerated. ...i guess i may sound old now....
Edited, Fri Nov 5 16:37:14 2004
one more thing. ultima was defined when it first came out as the ultimate spell, so regardless of what you think, square defined it as the best spell. i'm sure they meant that it had the most damage dealing potential out of all spells.... even though meteo(r) came out first. besides...the graphics for ultima were way cooler. it gave a sense of devestating magic.
(i know its not in this game......yet)
the coolest summon ever was FF3(states) Alexander. where that little red beam went across the ground then like a second later everything was incinerated. ...i guess i may sound old now....
Edited, Fri Nov 5 16:37:14 2004
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5 posts
Yes, you there, who said Ultima, go slit your wrists now because your stupid.
The greatest classic FF spell
#Anonymous,
Posted: Nov 10 2003 at 3:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No, that would have to be Ultima
Anonymous
Clasic, meaning the first final fantasy. Flare was the most powerful damage spell.
Anonymous
You guys should just stop arguing... In the olf FF games, Flare(Nuke) hits only one target and ultima hits in an area. They have strengths in different areas. No need to argue, just get both
Scholar
16 posts
I guess this thread shows how many of you haven't played the old FFs...
Nuke was introduced in FF 1 (US & JAP) on the NeS as a 9th circle spell.
Flare (blm) was introduced, along with Ultima (whm) and Holy (whm) in FF 2 (jap) on the NeS (or however they call it overthere)
Meteo (blm) came in FF 3 (jap), which also features flare (blm) but dumped holy / ultima
FF 4 (jap) 2 (US) had meteo (blm), nuke (blm) and holy (whm)
FF 5 (jap) had Flare (blm), Level 3 Flare (bluemage), Meto (time) and Holy (whm)
FF6 (jap) 3 (US) had Ultima, Meteor, Flare
So except for the fluke apparition in FF 2, Ultima is a "modern" spell, not a classic one like Nuke/Flare. So please stop saying false things like "Ultima is a better classic spell". It can be a better modern spell, but certainly not classic.
Nuke was introduced in FF 1 (US & JAP) on the NeS as a 9th circle spell.
Flare (blm) was introduced, along with Ultima (whm) and Holy (whm) in FF 2 (jap) on the NeS (or however they call it overthere)
Meteo (blm) came in FF 3 (jap), which also features flare (blm) but dumped holy / ultima
FF 4 (jap) 2 (US) had meteo (blm), nuke (blm) and holy (whm)
FF 5 (jap) had Flare (blm), Level 3 Flare (bluemage), Meto (time) and Holy (whm)
FF6 (jap) 3 (US) had Ultima, Meteor, Flare
So except for the fluke apparition in FF 2, Ultima is a "modern" spell, not a classic one like Nuke/Flare. So please stop saying false things like "Ultima is a better classic spell". It can be a better modern spell, but certainly not classic.
um, just to fill out your list, wasnt "pearl" in ff6? i thought that was holy.... okay, im done speaking, this thread is a buncha bickering as is.
Anonymous
Ultima was the greatest spell ever, especially in FF8, where i junctioned it to magic defense... those were the days, but here in the present FFXI Flare is GODLY!