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Spell details for Refresh  

Jobs/Level:Rune Fencer, lvl 62
Red Mage, lvl 41
MP cost:40
Element:Water
Scroll:Scroll of Refresh
Duration:150 Second
Reuse:20 Seconds
Cast time:5 seconds
Target Type:Party Member
Description:Gradually restores target's MP.

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Just my 2 gil worth
# Nov 26 2008 at 7:56 AM Rating: Decent
While I am not quite to 40 yet on rdm, after reading someone complain about "having" to cast "such and such" spell, I just had to speak my mind...

The party expects you to pull your own wieght, as they do from all jobs. Protect, shell, haste, regen, etc, these spells get constantly cast by one party member on another. Why? Because certain spells are expected to be cast on the tank, just like certain spells need to be cast on the mages, etc. If you have refresh (and you should have it on yourself constantly), then why not cast it on others? At least the pld and main healer? I mean a party is supposed to support itself so that all members can do the best job possible for less downtime and more exp. (Unless your doing a mission party, etc) Don't just tell a party to **** when they start asking for refresh. Just be sure to let them know about recast and your other duties in the party.

Anyway, if you are going to complain about any party member asking for any spell...stfu and don't join a party. Just solo. I enjoy being able to buff party members...sort of like a bodybuilder flexing. It's like, "Yeah, let me just cast this on you, and this...and this too." And then I just go down the line buffing everyone up. Even if they don't really need it. LOL. I do it because I can and because I want the party members to know I am going to do whatever I can to help us achieve optimal battle flow. Whether its enfeebling or healing or whatever.

I'm sure I learn more and different things as I play and level. If you look at my sig you'll see I do a bit of playing. I am rather new coming back to game after a couple years...lots of changes. But overall I've always enjoyed helping others and being in a party. When I get to 40 and someone asks me for refresh, it will just depend on where we're at, which is how I approach any situation. If we're taking a bit of a break, I would probably tell them I'll refresh them when we get ready to go again. Or maybe cast it to shorten downtime. Just depends. The bottom line is that you just tell anyone "no" or "f#$k y*@". Just be open and honest and tell them what your opinion is. I have been found to be correct and had people apologize, just as I have been wrong and apologized. It's called "communication". Try it some time instead of whining and crying and give other rdm's a bad name.
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# Feb 15 2008 at 2:42 PM Rating: Default
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Okay a few words of advice first of all if you want to own up to that name STOP WITH THE STUPID SUB COMBOS. Also it is your job to refresh so if you tell everyone to F@#$ off every time they ask you then you might as well just not be a RDM or F@!$ off your self.

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# Jul 17 2008 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
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After redmage get to level 41 they wont have mp issues anymore so they can potentially sub anything they feel like and still be useful.

/blm is the no duh sub for rdm since Int helps your debuff spells.
/whm if you wanna get stuck as main healer and NOT do your redmage duties.
/blu sounds like a good idea, but haven't tried it yet.

All of you RDM out there that sub /war, /thf ... those are for soloing and farming ... unless your a taru and your melee is so worthless that you need the boost.

I can see the fun factor of /nin, like warrior merely for soloing unless you have an Excalibur and a Ridill *drools*

Personally I HATE downtime, so when I hit level 50 I plan on subing SMN all the way to 75 just for auto refresh. Since auto-refresh and spell refresh stack for a total of 4mp/3s.

Edited, Jul 17th 2008 4:40pm by Dumgui
Cant stand it
# Mar 17 2007 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
I can't wait till i get this^^!!!!
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Cant stand it
# Jul 09 2007 at 10:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Say that after your first few parties main-healing with 4 ppl that expect refresh on top of haste and curing ; ;
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Cant stand it
# Feb 08 2008 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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im so happy i got this
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Just wondering.
# Dec 26 2006 at 1:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Read again it restores 3mp each 3 seconds not 1mp each 3 seconds.
So 3mp each 3 seconds is still 1mp/sec so it heals 150 mp over 2.5 min and it cost 40mp.
Just wondering.
# Dec 16 2006 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
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So refresh restores 50MP over two and a half minutes. AIt costs 40 MP to begin with.

#Katseu, Posted: Apr 03 2006 at 12:23 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok i just got this spell and all the PTs ive been in soo far are like refresh plz like every time it runs out... i like fighting. i am a honerary RDM/DRK and i try to enfeable and fight and then ppl yell at me for several thing.
RE: Price...
# Apr 12 2006 at 11:14 AM Rating: Good
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You SHOULD sub whm or blm. Drk is NOT useful sub at your level, period.

If someone asks for refresh, give it to them last. And how can you not have enough mp? Oh wait, it's because you're subbing drk. Do the players on your server a favor and sub whm or blm. Youg ive redmages a bad name.

Oh, and before you say "It's my $12.95 a month!", well, it's their $64.95. GO SUB SOMETHING USEFUL.

Btw, I don't see how 1k is overpriced. If 1k is expensive to you, then you obviously do no play this game.
Refresh
# Mar 03 2006 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I like Refrsh and all but usually get alot of "Refresh me please" it gets annoying but i noe i need to do it so i just go along

Bought refresh for 2K on siren
cheap
# Jan 26 2006 at 2:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Refresh has been going at a steady rate of 1k in Ragnarok. Pretty cheap for a sweet spell.
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I heard that
# Mar 01 2005 at 7:22 PM Rating: Default
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I heard that thats all redmages are used for is refresh in partys what the heck is it true or not and if it is true ITS CRAP!! not refresh refresh is cool but the partys are CRAP!! thank you
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# Sep 30 2005 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
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When was the last time you looked in a grammer book?
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RE: I heard that
# Feb 08 2007 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Probably about the same time you looked at a 'speeling' book. It's grammAr. :P
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RE: I heard that
# Jan 28 2008 at 3:45 PM Rating: Decent
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RE: I heard that
# May 02 2005 at 11:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, I understood the first statement, but the second statement throws me off.
Yes, Refresh is not ALL the RDM's are used for post-41. We're also used to debuff, dispel, and magic burst, backup healing whatever. We're there to make EXP Chains go smoother ^_^

"not refresh refresh is cool but the partys are crap". What do you mean by this? I am confused.
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RE: I heard that
# Jun 06 2005 at 2:06 PM Rating: Default
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LOL Ok listen to me i am a 41 rdm/20 nin an when i join a prty an all they want from me is refresh i get realy mad an tell them to F@#K OFF an disband luckly to say I only had to do it once an i realy just level with my linkshell since we are all in the 40s pluse so im real happy bout that.

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RE: I heard that
# Aug 14 2007 at 6:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Why hate party members when they ask for refresh? When you exp with party that is the role you got to take. I am red mage 70 and members asking for refresh so I just give it to them.

I find that red mage sub bard is the best in exp party. Unlimited Dispel song and Refresh song is the bomb in mana burn party.

If red mage didn't have refresh or dispel or even haste then please NEVER level red mage, you just only give all red mages bad name.

Red Mage sub Ninja ONLY good for soloing. It is totally useless in exp party period. Only sub rdm/nin if tanker SUCK at tanking. I party alot and encounter rdm/nin only once.
RE: I heard that
# Aug 14 2007 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
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RE: I heard that
# Aug 07 2006 at 12:01 AM Rating: Decent
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41rdm/20ninja? >_> usefull if your soloing. And like the gentleman said before, we red mages arnt ONLY for refresh, but it is a HUGE part of our job. If you cant stand refreshing, find another job. And the ninja sub still makes me chuckle. Are you still meleeing? *cackles* are you wearing non-mage armor?

Alright sorry, usually I'm not one to critique others playing style. But come on, If your gona play, know your job. Refresh, enfeeble, haste, cuddle up in the back row with the other mages, get yourself some magic gear, and get a subjob that helps your MP and casting abalities. Its a red MAGE, not a red warrior.
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RE: I heard that
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I take great exception to the concept that we're supposed to "cuddle up to the other mages". We're meant to melee. Why the **** do you think we have the En spells and Spikes? We were designed to be mages that can melee. My husband and I both play RDM & the fastest we might drop a party is if they demand we hide in the back & just cast spells. We may be backup healers, when needed, we debuff, as needed. But we do NOT hide. We fight, right up in the enemy's face, as we should. Problems with parties have many times led to us either soloing or partied only with eachother. I know everyone has their own opinion & it is up to each individual to decide how they might wish to play their char. But saying that ignoring half the skills of your job is the only way to play it? That, my friend, is ridiculous.
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# Aug 07 2006 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Like your name though. Numberonerdm. You are far from that, my friend.
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RE: I heard that
# May 11 2005 at 2:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think it was "Not refresh, refresh is cool, but the parties are crap."

Thus, "Refresh is a good spell, but the parties that complain are bad."
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Does your Enhancing Skill affect this spell
# Feb 25 2005 at 7:15 PM Rating: Default
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I'm wondering if your Enhancing Skill affects this spell? I know it helps some enhancing spells but I'm thinking it doesn't help all of them as one gets older. Anyone know how the enhancing skill and refresh relate (if at all)?

RE: Does your Enhancing Skill affect this spell
# May 02 2005 at 11:16 PM Rating: Decent
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They do no seem to relate. it was always 150mp for me
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Cast Time
# Nov 28 2004 at 9:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Refresh takes around 5 secounds to cast, it's not instant.
stack with food?
# Oct 02 2004 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I know this doesn't stack with juice but does it stack with food that gives +mp regen during resting? i.e. roast mushrooms
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Yes, it does stack with foods like that, as they give a food effect, not an MP recovery effect.
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#Hitoshisan, Posted: Oct 20 2004 at 3:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) sorry but this is bs. The only cosumable that gives refresh is drinks and they give refresh effect with the refresh symbol NOT a food effect symbol.
RE: stack with food?
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Erm, no... he's right. The original poster was talking about food that gives +MP Recovery (like roast mushrooms) not Refresh effect (like juices). Mushrooms and Refresh stack.

I would think a lvl 55 WHM and 45 BLM would know the difference...
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Correction 2
# Sep 14 2004 at 3:08 AM Rating: Decent
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For some reason, when I first came here, none of these posts were visible. I looked at other places and they had posts, but not here. And I wasn't looking at the scroll either. When I posted, however, all the posts showed up. Weird.

Anyway, I read through the posts and one said that the effectiveness of Regen and Refresh does not change. Many posts also agreed with my previous post. So, why is the description of this spell still wrong??
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# Sep 14 2004 at 3:03 AM Rating: Decent
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The first time I was able to use this spell at lvl 41 as Elvaan RDM/WHM, it regenerated 3 MP every 3 seconds and lasted 150 seconds (2.5 minutes). It would make sense that this enhancement spell would work better over time, but this is when I first got it. The description here (2 MP every 3 seconds for 120 seconds) would only generate 80 MP, which is only 40 MP over the casting cost. For me when I first learned it, it generated 150 MP (1 MP for every second it lasted) which is 110 MP over the casting cost.
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# Jul 09 2004 at 5:52 PM Rating: Decent
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it does 3 mp/ 3 Secs
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# Jul 06 2004 at 3:42 PM Rating: Default
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I got this spell for 4k on Alexander!!! how badass!!!!!. lucky last one in stock and i check again a week later 25k wow =)
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RE: yay!!!
# Feb 25 2005 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah i got it for 4k in jeuno also. i havent checke d to see whats its at now but i still got a while to go b4 i can use it
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Refresh etiquette
# Jun 18 2004 at 7:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Here is a great guide on what refresh does. It's mostly an etiquette guide/rant, but it describes pratical usage beautifully.

Refresh etiquette
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# Jun 07 2004 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
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I have to say this spell is awesome

Life before Refresh: 1 maybe 2 chains in Crawler's Nest before resting.

Life after Refresh: 4 to 5 chains before resting,and not resting to regain mp, just to catch our breath!

Truly awesome addition to the Red Mage repertoire
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Refresh combo
# May 29 2004 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Hmm I wonder if it can be stacked with one of those cloaks you wear that gives auto refresh + Mage's Ballad and Summoner's auto refresh + refresh. That be like about 6 something mp per tick?
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RE: Refresh combo
# Aug 21 2004 at 6:40 AM Rating: Decent
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It does stack. But remember that SMN Auto-Refresh only gives 1 mp per tick.
RE: Refresh combo
# Aug 28 2004 at 3:08 PM Rating: Default
In a lv. 55 pt, you can have up to 7mp / tick.
RDM/SMN (refresh - 3/tick) (auto refresh - 1/tick)
BRD/??? (mages ballard - 1/tick) (Mballard2 - 2/tick)

drinks dont stack with RDM refresh
Sick just sick
# May 26 2004 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
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I got this just last night and I have to say it's the sickest spell in the game (atleast up to my level). Before getting the spell our party was sitting out waiting to refresh mp/hp; our chains consisted of 1 maybe 2... After I got Refresh, though, everything changed. We were getting chains of up to 4 and 5, non-stop crazy-sick insane ... Oh, and for the first time I was actually able to bring up my TP and use Weapon Skillz... when has your mage used a weapon skill lately? There are no words to describe this. I was cracking up in my chair from what I was seeing. I was enfeebling and my mp was ready for another full enfeebling (Slow, Gravity, Paralyze) by the end of the current mob. As one of my party members commented... it is a mage's caffeine. I'm no addicted to the stuff.
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# Apr 01 2004 at 3:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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It is 3 MP every 3 seconds, for 150 seconds. As of this writing the site's info of 2 MP/3 seconds for 2 minutes is wrong.

As with Regen, Enhancing Skill is irrelevant -- it will always give 3 MP every 3 seconds, for 150 seconds.

Yes, it stacks with Mage's Ballad and SMN Auto Refresh.

No, it does not stack with Juice.
BCNM
# Mar 30 2004 at 2:33 PM Rating: Default
lol so sad, as it has been posted numerous times it BCNM stands for Burning Circle Notorious Monster.
RE: BCNM
# Apr 08 2004 at 4:23 AM Rating: Default
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Some say Beast Coin Notorious Monster, even though Beast Seals are used, not coins... same idea tho.
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RE: BCNM
# Jun 08 2004 at 1:45 AM Rating: Decent
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and they'd also be wrong
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# Mar 24 2004 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
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3 mp every 3 seconds is more what it's like, and it seems to last 150 mp for me, so that would be 2 1/2 minutes. I haven't done a recount in a couple of lvls, but I'm lv 54 red mage and have around 160 enhancing skill.
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Refresh
# Feb 29 2004 at 9:26 AM Rating: Default
it said 2 mp every 3 seconds but my friend told me it was 3, can anyone clarify this?
Info is wrong?
# Feb 24 2004 at 5:09 AM Rating: Decent
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This spell seems to regain 3mp every 2 seconds. And I haven't timed it, but if it is indeed 2 minutes, then that means 180mp regained??
4k at jeuno
# Feb 19 2004 at 12:45 AM Rating: Decent
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i was able to buy this for 4000 gil at the AH in jeuno...on the caitsith server btw...

btw, reading the spell description...2mp every 3 seconds for 2 minutes

works out to 80mp regained from 1 cast of refresh (not sure if it stacks, haven't tried yet)
refresh
# Feb 01 2004 at 8:24 PM Rating: Default
ok this spell is curently over 120k, is this BCNM really that though? and they say that each BCNM drops dif things so i want to know which one exactly drops this scroll?
RE: refresh
# Mar 11 2004 at 9:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Sucks to be you, i picked it up for 4,000 Gil on Garuda.
Are you sure you are talking about Refresh?
RE: refresh
# Apr 08 2004 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
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I remember hearing this spell was 200k... then saw it listed for 40k... now it's down to 4k... the price drops exponentially as more and more people on the server do BCNM40.
3 that I know of
# Dec 31 2003 at 6:57 PM Rating: Default
Ghelsba, Paulborough, and Giddeus have the BC (burning circle) bcnm does not mean beastmen coin it means burning cirlce notorious monster.
RE: 3 that I know of
# Jan 17 2004 at 1:59 PM Rating: Default
BCNM would be buring circl but its usually refer to as "the dragons" it would stand for beastmen coin NM if you actually used coins for them instead of the seals ;) Just for those thinking it meant the coins
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# Dec 31 2003 at 6:56 PM Rating: Default
It means burning circle not beastmen coin
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# Dec 27 2003 at 5:05 PM Rating: Default
BCNM stands for Burning Circle Notorious Monster...not Beastman Coin . ., u trade the clay seals for the orbs, not the coins used in crafting/alchemy.
?
# Dec 22 2003 at 11:16 AM Rating: Default
This spell is cheap...under 10k for it. It also regens 3 mp per tick...not the 2 mp that they say. It is a must have if you are RDM. You grp will have zero downtime. I dont know that if you cast regen on yourself afterwards if they do not stack...only have had spell short time so far...but it uses same icon that regen does. BCNM stands for "Burning Circle Notorious Monster" Phalanx is dropped by a bcnm...thats why you will see the cost of it at the AH over 250k....it has to do with the beastmen seals. You trade them into a NPC for an differ kind of orb in stacks of 40, 50 or 60. The different orbs will let u fight a differ bcnm
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# Sep 19 2004 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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actually they arent the same icon just look it "regen" has HP and "refresh" has MP but u just got refresh and didnt look hard enough so your forgiven lol
bcnm?
# Dec 18 2003 at 6:50 PM Rating: Default
What does bcnm stand for?
drop?
# Dec 05 2003 at 4:01 AM Rating: Default
Does anyone know where i can get this spell without me having to buy it? Is dropped other than lvl 40 bcnm battles?
The best.....
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....Red Mage spell!
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 23 2003 at 11:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) BCNM stands for Beastman Coin Notorious Monster. Whoever came up with it should probably have realized the battles come from the trading of Beastman Seals. Whoops.
RE: The best.....
# May 26 2004 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually, the BCNM stands for Burning Circle Notorious Monster.
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