Spell details for Raise III  

lol, u guys r gonna hate me, its 8k over on cerberus... *^^*

7k on Titan, one of the few "cheap" things on our server >.>

Raise III is still over 1 million gil on Asura.

I doubt it'll drop, there are many people who will try to keep raising the price >.<; damn gilsellers and inflation.

Granted I know this spell, I refuse to raise 3 people that try to raise the price on it. They can eat a Raise I and love it. =P

40k
Garuda server
~GT75

I remember when this thing was atleast 5mil, now it has dropped down to 200k.. I think its less than that now..

Haha.. It's retarded the way WHM's are treated. Millions of gil for a spell that won't help parties move faster, won't pay for itself, and won't benefit the WHM in any way, other than making him look good for having it.

What's a WHM's best way to make money? Tele-taxi? Lol. Back in the day, when this spell costed 200K, WHM's were doing Tele-Dem, Holla and Mea for 500g, Altep and Yhoat for 700g, and Vahzl for 1000g. Now it's up in the millions, and we charge the same. I've seen people -trying- to raise the fees for their teleports, and it's caused b!tchfests in Jeuno shouts a couple times. Someone actually called a GM on one person for charging double the going rate for ports. Lol. Like it's illegal or something.

Personally, I make most of my money camping NM's as THF. It's nearly impossible to make any money as WHM. I'll afford this spell easily. Took me a week and a half to make money for a Serket Ring (4 mil) and Astral Ring (700K), but what about other WHM's who can't do things like this? It's sad that people sell something for so high when it's going to benefit them, and not the buyer. :p

OK for those of you whining about the cost of Raise III, first of all, I feel your pain. I'm a BLM main but I'll probably get WHM high eventually too, as I really like the job. However, all this hemp-induced economic reasoning about the price of Raise III has to stop. :)

When the game started, there were less level 75s obviously. However, more people have had time to play the game, and with more time comes more level 75s. However, the drop rate of Raise III has remained the same. At the beginning of the game, maybe one WHM a week would hit 75, and someone would get a Raise III drop approximately every week or so (for the sake of argument, I have no hard stats). Now, more people are higher levels and doing more BCNMs so maybe two or three Raise III scrolls are dropped a week, but now we have 3-4 people a week hitting Level 75. I don't know the exact numbers, but the simple problem is: there are not enough Raise III scrolls in the game to supply each and every level 75 WHM.

Does paying 3 million gil for Raise III suck? Sure it does. So is mocking people who don't have it; it is simply impossible for every single WHM in the game to have this scroll and some people will be without it; they're not dumb or lazy. Even if a particular WHM would "just" raise 3 million gil for the scroll, another WHM with 3 million gil wouldn't be able to buy it, and this would continue to drive the price up further. This is why SE has introduced new ways to get it, it IS ridiculous to pay 3 million gil for something that will never directly benefit you. I, too, am hoping that whatever new ways to get it are introduced drive the price down and increase the number of WHMs running around with the spell.

Square is thinking of a new way to get this spell.
Its news from the Playonline site.

Lakshmi: 5 million and still rising.

~I am NEVER buying this spell.

I know raise 3 is drops by tough stuff... but its called a brain... use it!!!

If you sold raise 3 for the about 1.8-2 million price (price on caitsith as of today...) thats restricting WHMs everywhere!!! If u come across a whm without it and call them stupid for not having it, you are indeed the stupid one for charging soo much...

The spell is great for everyone! and i noticed on caitsith anyways when i bought raise 2 (about 2-3 months ago i dont level whm often) the price of raise 3 was 180k... thats it!!! The japanese kept the price at it for a long time, then when more greedy ppl (obviously without a thought process) got to the high levels they raised the price.

when i looked at it again a lil over 2 month ago it was 500k... then 1 million... now 2 million today... some ppl just dont get it and i will now ONLY get raise 3 if i get help getting it! or the price is reasonable! This is a message to those ???holes out there... mistreat whms and we will just /point and /laugh later on!

ok well... RaiseIII being more than 1 million is BS.. all WHM need to go on strike and never buy this spell until the price drops... WHM can't use R3 on themselves anyway (until 75 with Re-R3)
make those @$$holes that jacked the price up pay the 50-100k tax on the spell and not get $H|T for it... I know that some poeple can make this money without too much trouble... but I am not going to take months out of playing to farm up 1mil+ please dont buy this spell until it plants itself back down @500k or less.. 500k is even pretty dumb but it is at least a little bit affordable and won't take too much time off the game we pay 13$ a month for.. the game lasts long enough without taking a 1month off to farm..



well I am writing down ALL the names of poeple selling the scroll for more than 500k and making sure they never get a RaiseIII from me or be a smart ass and tell them to pay me 1 mil for the RaiseIII (which they won't do anyway even if ya raise em) I suggest this idea as well if you really have to buy this scroll for 1mil+

Inflation or not, rare or not, hard to get or not, it is TOTALLY stupid to charge 2mil+ for this item. I see this, and then I think of the ppl crying about fees for raises. Raise is one of those things that benefits everyone, and I mean EVERYONE. If you disagree, then you must not have ever died, in which I congradulate you. Everyone dies, at any level. I am an upcoming whm(@65), soon to get this, or be able to at least, and I have no funds near 2.6mil (last sale on Valefor) How am I going to use raise II on a lvl 70 person and loose that much more experience, but then again, how am I going to afford getting this? <sigh> back to tele-taxi...

Check this Chart, exp loss HP, R1-3 with amount+%

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/teletaxi/files/exp.txt

Raise III IS dropped by Kirin as one of the Drops, Go into Kargs Video Vault and Click Blue Gatr HNM Videos, Once there Watch the HI Version of the one where they fight all the Gods, Watch the Last Kirin Kill, And STARE at the Chatbox, It says "You find a Scroll of Raise III On Kirin" Along with 2 Quake spells, But thats Irrelevant. :P

So much misinformation in here, gonna make a shot at clarification...

1) You do NOT always lose 10% of your TNL when you die and HP. It's an approximation. When your TNL is 40,000 you're not going to lose 4,000.

2) Speaking of which, the most EXP you will ever lose upon dying and HP is 2,400. Doesn't matter how high your level gets, it will never exceed this amount.

3) Raise 1 always restores 25% of the EXP lost. Raise 2/3 will work on levels 1-50 but they will have no extra EXP saving effect.

4) On levels 51-75, Raise 2 recovers 75% of EXP lost, and Raise 3 recovers 90%. Meaning that you're not going to end up losing single-digit EXP with a R3, it's not quite THAT godly. The most you can ever lose from a R3 post-level 51 is 240 (10% of 2,400). The most you can ever lose with a R2 post-level 51 is 600 (25% of 2,400).

5) Divine Seal claims to boost the effectiveness of your next "healing spell", not necessarily just Cures. However, off the top of my head, Cure/Curaga are the only spells it has any effect for.

6) You can't target NPCs for a Raise spell, so don't even try to think you can OHKO bones with a R3. Plus, even if you could cast it on them, they'd need to accept it, right?

for those of u puzzled ppl id say try to use and play around with ( a bronze / mahogany / noble bed and raise I, II , III with & without the beds) if u are a high lv in 70s id say take no chances even if its just a rumor do a noble bed + divine seal + raise 3 and that would be the end of ur stupid f#$%ed up arguments

man i love how some spells like rase/regen/refresh are so confuzing. so soooo maney people talk all day about it....man i love it :)

From what I have heard and seen from other Players and WHM, is that Raise II makes you lose only 500exp. While Raise III makes you lose only 100exp. Either its 90% or 99%, its your call, but thats what I found out.

Now I may be wrong. So this isn't a 100% Fact.

Edited, Mon Aug 9 04:31:24 2004

Wait a second. You are wrong.
Ok... Divine Seal doesn't enhance Enfeebling, Enhancing or Divine magic, that's true. It enhances HEALING MAGIC (not "cure magic", that doesn't even exist! =_= ), go read the description of Divine Seal you get on your ability list.

Guess what? Raise (like Raise II, Reraise, ecc...) IS a HEALING MAGIC (last time I used Raise, my Healing Magic went up: so don't object on this... it's a fact).

Soooooooooo...
Raise (Healing Magic) + Divine Seal (enhances Healing Magic). <--- It works!
I don't know how it works on Raise II and III but I know that with Raise you gain 25% of lost XP, with Raise + Divine Seal you gain 33% (another TESTED fact).

Who's the dumbass now? XD

Edited, Tue Jun 15 06:08:29 2004

cant seem to get this from AH on my server...
anyone know what mob drop this scroll?

You get 90% exp back. It has always been this way and it hasn't changed. Please stop misinforming people.

and the MP cost is 250mp
i've also heard it is only affective to those who are Lv61 and up (i've also heard 51 and up) This is unconfirmed.

Edited, Fri Mar 19 22:58:49 2004

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