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#1 Feb 14 2004 at 10:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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This is not an original composition. This is a retelling of the information that can be found at: The Bilingual Website of Final Fantasy XI
I can only hope to do this justice.


Advanced Guide to Gardening

When most start off gardening its usually just for ****-n-giggles. Youve got all these seeds and some extra gil, so why not? But the first time that a beginner gets a bumper crop of 20+ fire crystals they go from the ****-n-giggles stage to the Oh my god, I can make some serious money! stage.

Your thoughts become consumed with figuring out just what exactly you did to get such a massive yield and then repeating that formula again and again.

But therein lies the rub. See, gardening is like crafting in that you take a set of items, put them all together and get a final product. But even if you use the same pot, the same seed and the same crystal, your results can, and often do, change.

Its All About Relationships

And Im not talking about the Will you be mine kind of relationships either.

Most of you have seen this at some point or other:

*******=>*Fire*=>*****
****/*************\***
Water****Light****Ice**
***|*******|*******|**
Lightning*Dark***Wind**
****\*************/***
******<=*Earth*<=*****

(gotta love ASCII art!)

From this (rather bare bones) diagram, its quite easy to see that Fire is strong versus Ice and weak versus Water. These strong and weak relationships are an underlining principle throughout Vanadiel, including gardening.

The elements saturate every aspect, from the seeds, to the flowerpots, to the proper times for planting, feeding and harvesting.

The Elements of the Flowerpots
Earthen Flowerpot = Earth
Brass Flowerpot = Fire
Ceramic Flowerpot = Water
Porcelain Flowerpot = Wind

The Elements of the Seeds
Vegetable seeds = Earth
Grain seeds = Fire
Fruit seeds = Water
Herb seeds = Wind

The Days of the Week
Firesday
Earthsday
Watersday
Windsday
Icesday
Lightningsday
Lightsday
Darksday

The Phases of the Moon
New Moon
Waxing Crescent Moon
Quarter Moon
Waxing Gibbous Moon
Full Moon
Waning Gibbous Moon
Last Quarter Moon
Waning Crescent Moon


To determine which day of the week it is and what phase the moon is currently in, make use of the /clock function. Youll get your information right there. If youre not in-game or maybe you just want to get a heads-up on when the Full Moon will occur, head on over to Virtual Vana'diel Timer (it has plenty of other information as well).

Now, when to plant, what to plant, when to feed, etc. is determined by what you want to harvest. Theres a list of commonly known harvests for most of the seed-crystal-pot combinations at the end of this guide. If you see something on there that you like, make note of the seed type, flowerpot type and feed crystal used.

Day To Plant
If youre going for items (and not Little Worms or Rock Salt), there are two days which are ideal.
1) When the element of the seed and the day are the same.
2) When the element of the seed is strong versus the element of the day.
If crystals are your game, then there are three choices.
(unless you want Light or Dark, then just go to 3)
1) Lightsday
2) Darksday
3) (now this one is tricky) First, you have to know what crystal you are going to feed the plant. Now, locate that element on the elemental relationship wheel. Whatever element your feed crystal is weak versus, is the same element of the day to plant.
Example: I want fire crystals (theyre so useful!) and, according to the elemental relationship wheel, Fire is weak versus Water. So, I would want to plant the seed on Watersday.

Feed the Plant Day
For those desiring items (again, not Rock Salt or Little Worms), you should feed the plant on one of two days
1) The day with the same element as the crystal.
2) The day whose element is weak versus the element of the crystal.
Example: (Fire Crystals arent items, but heres an example anyways) If I want to get Fire Crystals I would feed the seed with a Water Crystal. So, I would want to feed the seed on either Watersday or Firesday.

Harvesting Day
Very simple, the closer to the full moon that you harvest, the larger the yield of your harvest.

Now, for a cautionary note:
Unless you want to harvest rock salt, you should not harvest on the day when the element of the seed and the feed crystal is strong versus the element of the day.
Example: So, lets say Im using Fruit Seeds to get my Fire Crystals. Fruit Seeds = Water, I used a Water Crystal for feed, so if I were to harvest on Firesday, Im liable to end up with a hand full of Rock Salt. Not what I wanted.



Some further tips:
- Some believe that the number of times you check the plant influences the harvest. Supposedly, not checking the plant at all gives more crystals and checking it frequently helps with getting a better harvest (i.e. no Little Worms or Rock Salt)

- It is thought that the flowerpots share an affinity for certain regions.
Earthen Flowerpot = Sarutabaruta = Earth Crystal, Tarutaru rice, Kukuru beans, Pototo, Saruta Cotton
Brass Flowerpot = Gustaberg = Fire Crystal, Black Pepper, La Theine Cabbage
Ceramic Flowerpot = Ronfaure = Water Crystal, Millioncorn, Sunflower seeds
Porcelain Flowerpot = Jeuno = Wind Crystal, Blue Peas
What does this affinity mean for you? Crops associated with a region will have higher yields if theyre seeded in the appropriate flowerpot.

- If your feed crystals element is the same as the element of the seed, you can sometimes get a harvest that cant be acquired any other way.

- A note on speed of maturing: if the feed crystal is weak versus the seed youll have quick growth. And if the feed crystal is strong versus the seed, growth will be slower. Slow growth isnt always a bad thing, as there can be some crops that cant be had any other way.

- Little Worms and Rock Salt are typically the result of using a feed crystal that is either the same element as the seed or a feed crystal that is strong versus the seed.

- If you want crystals you should not use a feed crystal that is strong versus the seed. So, dont feed a Grain Seed with a Water Crystal, or an Herb Seed with an Ice Crystal, etc

- Again, with crystals, if you use a feed crystal that is the same element as the seed, you will get a larger crop of crystals. This only works for four crystals: Ice, Earth, Lightning and Fire. Grain Seed + Fire Crystal = Ice Crystal, Fruit Seed + Water Crystal = Fire Crystal, etc.

- Whenever you check on your plants your moogle will make a comment. Some believe that the harvests vary depending on the comment. They will check the plant until they get the comment they want to hear and then harvest.



Here is the example of a Fire Crystal crop, condensed:
The flowerpot is the Brass Flowerpot.
The seed is the Fruit Seed.
The crystal used is Water Crystal.
Plant the Fruit Seed on either Lightsday, Darksday or Watersday.
Feed the Water Crystal when the plant needs it.
You can do this again, seeing as how the seed is a Fruit Seed. You do not have to.
Harvest should be during the Full Moon, on any day except Firesday.


And heres the promised chart. It is far from definitive. After each crop is what some have yielded.
The Fruit Seed combinations are quite bare, there are so very many of them. Hopefully we can fill this in.


-*Ceramic Flowerpot*-

-Grain Seeds

*Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 4
Red Rock x 1
Tarutaru Rice x 12-13
Little Worm x 7-11

*Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 3-5
Tarutaru Rice x 4-13

*Water Crystal
Blue Peas x 8-12
Rock Salt x 1-4

*Wind Crystal
Earth Crystal x 8-12
Millioncorn x 11-22

*Ice Crystal
Wind Crystal x 8-12
Kukuru Bean x 9-19

*Lightning Crystal
Water Crystal x 17-22
Coral Fungus x 1-4
Marguerite x 2-3
Kukuru Bean x 10

*Light Crystal
Dark Crystal x 2-3
Sunflower Seeds x 10-21

*Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-4
Coral Fungus x 1-5
Tarutaru Rice x 9-17
Deathball x 1
Woozyshroom x 1

* No Crystal
Puffball x 1
Marguerite x 2-4
Rock Salt x 1-3


- Vegetable Seeds

* Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 3-5
Popoto x 7-12

* Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 6-8
Yellow Rock x 1
Frost Turnip x 4-11
Little Worm x 6-12

* Water Crystal
Fire Crystal x 9-12
La Theine Cabbage x 3-7

*Wind Crystal
Gysahl Greens x 8-12
Rock Salt x 3-4

*Ice Crystal
Wind Crystal x 10-12
Saruta Cotton x 1-2

* Lightning Crystal
Water Crystal x 10-17
Wild Onion x 2-4

* Light Crystal
White Rock x 2
Ginger x 3-5

* Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-4
Woozyshroom x 1
Deathball x 1
Scream Fungus x 1-2
Black Rock x 1-2

* No Crystal
Lilac x 3-4
Yellow Rock x 2
Rock Salt x 2-4
Woozyshroom x 1
Rain Lily x 6-10


- Herb Seeds

* Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 4
Kazham Peppers x 12-22

* Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 3-5
Black Pepper x 5
Carnation x 3-7
Yellow Rock x 1
Bay Leaves x 4

* Water Crystal
Fire Crystal x 8-12
Bay Leaves x 4-7
Blue Peas x 9
La Theine Cabbage x 7

* Wind Crystal
Earth Crystal x 16-20
Green Rock x 1
Sage x 4-7

* Ice Crystal
Sleepshroom x 2
Chamomile x 2-9
Rock Salt x 3-4
Saruta Cotton x 1

* Lightning Crystal
Water Crystal x 10-20
Sobbing Fungus x 1-2
Mhaura Garlic x 5-10

* Light Crystal
Dark Crystal x 4
Mhaura Garlic x 7-8

* Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-4
Deathball x 1
Coral Fungus x 1-3
Black Rock x 1-2
Amaryllis x 3-7
Mhaura Garlic x ?
Scream Fungus x 1

* No Crystal
Carnation x 8-9
Rock Salt x 4


- Fruit Seeds

* Fire Crystal + Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 3
Red Rock x 1

* Fire Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Fire Crystal + Water Crystal

* Fire Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Fire Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Fire Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Fire Crystal + Light Crystal

* Fire Crystal + Dark Crystal
Saruta Orange x 9

* Fire Crystal + No Crystal
Yagudo Cherry x 8
Saruta Orange x 8-10

* Earth Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 3
Eggplant x 6

* Earth Crystal + Water Crystal
Eggplant x 11

* Earth Crystal + Wind Crystal
San dOria Carrot x 8

* Earth Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Light Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Earth Crystal + No Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 3-5
San dOria Carrot x 15

* Water Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Water Crystal + Earth Crystal
Little Worm x 16
Watermelon x 6

* Water Crystal + Water Crystal
Reishi Mushroom x 1
Blue Rock x 1

* Water Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Water Crystal + Ice Crystal
Little Worm x 14

* Water Crystal+ Lightning Crystal
Fire Crystal x 10-12
Thunder Melon x 3

* Water Crystal + Light Crystal
Fire Crystal x 11

* Water Crystal + Dark Crystal
Fire Crystal x 11
Watermelon x 4

* Water Crystal + No Crystal
Fire Crystal x 9
Blue Peas x 12
Watermelon x 3
Blue Rock x 1

* Wind Crystal + Fire Crystal
Rolanberry x 5

* Wind Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Water Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Wind Crystal
Earth Crystal x 12

* Wind Crystal + Ice Crystal
Rolanberry x 5

* Wind Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Rolanberry x 5

* Wind Crystal + Light Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Dark Crystal
Rolanberry x 4-8

* Wind Crystal + No Crystal
Earth Crystal x 9
Rolanberry x 4-8

* Ice Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Water Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Wind Crystal
Mithran Tomato x 11

* Ice Crystal + Ice Crystal
Wind Crystal x 11
Buburimu Grape x 8
Blue Rock x 1

* Ice Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Light Crystal
Mithran Tomato x 12

* Ice Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Ice Crystal + No Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Earth Crystal
Derfland Pear x 4

* Lightning Crystal + Water Crystal
Coral Fungus x 3

* Lightning Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Ice Crystal
Delfland Pear x 5

* Lightning Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Coral Fungus x 1

* Lightning Crystal + Light Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Light Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Light Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Light Crystal + Water Crystal

* Light Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Light Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Light Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Light Crystal + Light Crystal
Reishi Mushroom x 1

* Light Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Light Crystal + No Crystal
Reishi Mushroom x 1

* Dark Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Water Crystal
Blue Rock x 1

* Dark Crystal + Wind Crystal
Yagudo Cherry x 8

* Dark Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Light Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 3
Danceshroom x 1
Black Rock x 1-2

* Dark Crystal + No Crystal
Deathball x 1
Yagudo Cherry x 16

* No Crystal + Fire Crystal

* No Crystal + Earth Crystal
Earth Crystal x 18
Delfland Pear x 5

* No Crystal + Water Crystal

* No Crystal + Wind Crystal
Delfland Pear x 5

* No Crystal + Ice Crystal

* No Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* No Crystal + Light Crystal

* No Crystal + Dark Crystal

* No Crystal + No Crystal
Reishi Mushroom x 1
Rock Salt x 3-4
Blue Rock x 1



-*Brass Flowerpot*-


-Grain Seeds

*Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 3-4
Red Rock x 1
Tarutaru Rice x 8-13
Little Worm x 6-12

* Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 4-5
Tarutaru Rice x 4-9

* Water Crystal
Blue Peas x 8-12
Kukuru Bean x 11
Rock Salt x 1

* Wind Crystal
Earth Crystal x 8-10
Millioncorn x 11-20

* Ice Crystal
Wind Crystal x 9-10
Kukuru Bean x 8-11

* Lightning Crystal
Water Crystal x 10-12
Coral Fungus x 2-5
Marguerite x 3-5
Tarutaru Rice x 8-13

* Light Crystal
Dark Crystal x 3-4
Sunflower Seeds x 8-12

* Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-4
Coral Fungus x 1-3
Scream Fungus x 1
Tarutaru Rice x 12

* No Crystal
Puffball x 1
Marguerite x 2-5
Red Rock x 1
Rock Salt x 3-4


- Vegetable Seeds

* Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 3-5
Popoto x 16-19

* Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 6-8
Yellow Rock x 1
Frost Turnip x 6-10
Little Worm x 8-12

* Water Crystal
Fire Crystal x 16-19
La Theine Cabbage. x 6-10
Rock Salt x 1

* Wind Crystal
Gysahl Greens x 8-12
Rock Salt x 4

* Ice Crystal
Wind Crystal x 8
Saruta Cotton x 1-2

* Lightning Crystal
Water Crystal x 8-12
Wild Onion x 2-6

* Light Crystal
White Rock x 1
Ginger x 4

* Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-4
Woozyshroom x 1
Deathball x 1
Scream Fungus x 1-2
Coral Fungus x 3
Black Rock x 1-2

* No Crystal
Woozyshroom x 1
Rain Lily x 9-10
Lilac x 5
Rock Salt x 1-4
Yellow Rock x 2


- Herb Seeds

* Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 3-4
Kazham Pepper x 10-22

* Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 3-4
Black Pepper x 8-10
Carnation x 3-5

* Water Crystal
Fire Crystal x 16-20
Bay Leaves x 4-8

* Wind Crystal
Sage x 4-5
Green Rock x 1
Little Worm x 8

* Ice Crystal
Chamomile x 6-8
Rock Salt x 2-3

* Lightning Crystal
Water Crystal x 9-12
Sobbing Fungus x 1-2
Mhaura Garlic x 4-9

* Light Crystal
Dark Crystal x 4
Mhaura Garlic x 7-12
White Rock x 1

* Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-5
Deathball x 1
Black Rock x 1
Amaryllis x 4-7
Mhaura Garlic x 5

* No Crystal
Sobbing Fungus x 1
Carnation x 6-9
Rock Salt x 1


- Fruit Seeds

* Fire Crystal + Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 4
Red Rock x 1

* Fire Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Fire Crystal + Water Crystal
Ice Crystal x 5

* Fire Crystal + Wind Crystal
Saruta Orange x 11

* Fire Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Fire Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Fire Crystal + Light Crystal

* Fire Crystal + Dark Crystal
Yagudo Cherry x 9

* Fire Crystal + No Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Fire Crystal
San dOria Carrot x 10

* Earth Crystal + Earth Crystal
Eggplant x 11-17

* Earth Crystal + Water Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Light Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Earth Crystal + None Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 3
San dOria Carrot x 6

* Water Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Water Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Water Crystal + Water Crystal
Watermelon x 7-9
Blue Rock x 1

* Water Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Water Crystal + Ice Crystal
Watermelon x 3-6

* Water Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Fire Crystal x 17
Watermelon x 7
Thunder Melon x 3

* Water Crystal + Light Crystal

* Water Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Water Crystal + No Crystal
Fire Crystal x 16-20
Watermelon x 3-6
Blue Rock x 1
Reishi Mushroom x 1
Little Worm x 6-12

* Wind Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Earth Crystal
Rolanberry x 4

* Wind Crystal + Water Crystal
San dOria Grape x 22

* Wind Crystal + Wind Crystal
Wind Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Light Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Wind Crystal + No Crystal
Rolanberry x 5

* Ice Crystal + Fire Crystal
Wind Crystal x 8

* Ice Crystal + Earth Crystal
Mithran Tomato x 12

* Ice Crystal + Water Crystal
Wind Crystal x 9-10
Buburimu Grape x 8-10

* Ice Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Ice Crystal
Blue Rock x 1

* Ice Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Light Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Ice Crystal + No Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Water Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Coral Fungus x 1-4

* Lightning Crystal + Light Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Dark Crystal
Derfland Pear x 4-5

* Lightning Crystal + No Crystal
Rock Salt x 4

* Light Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Light Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Light Crystal + Water Crystal

* Light Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Light Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Light Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Dark Crystal x 2

* Light Crystal + Light Crystal

* Light Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Light Crystal + No Crystal
Rock Salt x 3

* Dark Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Water Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Wind Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-4
Green Rock x 1
Danceshroom x 1
Yagudo Cherry x 16
Rock Salt x 4

* Dark Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Light Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 3-4
Danceshroom x 1

* Dark Crystal + No Crystal
Light Crystal x 2
Yagudo Cherry x 8-16
Rock Salt x 4

* No Crystal + Fire Crystal
Delfland Pear x 6

* No Crystal + Earth Crystal
Rock Salt x 3

* No Crystal + Water Crystal
Little Worm x 9

* No Crystal + Wind Crystal
Delfland Pear x 5

* No Crystal + Ice Crystal
Wind Crystal x 9

* No Crystal + Light Crystal
Light Crystal x 4
Rock Salt x 3

* No Crystal + Dark Crystal
Rock Salt x 4

* No Crystal + No Crystal
Reishi Mushroom x 1
Blue Rock x 1
Rock Salt x 1-2



-*Earthen Flowerpot*-


- Grain Seeds

* Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 4-6
Red Rock x 1
Tarutaru Rice x 14-16

* Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 3-5
Tarutaru Rice x 8-13
Water Crystal
Blue Peas x 6-20
Bay Leaves x 6
Rock Salt x 1-3

* Wind Crystal
Earth Crystal x 11-17
Millioncorn x 10-12

* Ice Crystal
Wind Crystal x 9
Kukuru Bean x 16-20
Saruta Cotton x 2

* Lightning Crystal
Water Crystal x 8-12
Coral Fungus x 1-5
Marguerite x 2-5

* Light Crystal
Dark Crystal x 4
Sunflower Seeds x 9-16

* Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-4
Coral Fungus x 1-5
Tarutaru Rice x 12-17

* No Crystal
Puffball x 1
Marguerite x 2-5
Red Rock x 1
Rock Salt x 4


-Vegetable Seeds

* Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 3-5
Popoto x 10-19
Little Worm x 11

* Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 4-8
Yellow Rock x 1
Frost Turnip x 9
Little Worm x 6
Gysahl Greens x 9-12

* Water Crystal
Fire Crystal x 8-12
La Theine Cabbage 5-7
Saruta Cotton x 2

* Wind Crystal
Gysahl Greens x 8-10
Millioncorn x 11
Rock Salt x 2-3

* Ice Crystal
Wind Crystal x 10
Saruta Cotton x 2-3

* Lightning Crystal
Water Crystal x 6-12
Wild Onion x 1-5

* Light Crystal
Ginger x 3

* Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-3
Woozyshroom x 1
Deathball x 1
Screamshroom x 1-2
Black Rock x 1-2

* No Crystal
Woozyshroom x 1
Rock Salt x 2-3
Yellow Rock x 2
Rain Lily x 7
Lilac x 2-5


- Herb Seeds

* Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 3-5
Kazham Pepper x 12-20
Little Worm x 2

* Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 3-5
Black Pepper x 4-5
Carnation x 4-7

* Water Crystal
Fire Crystal x 9-16
Bay Leaves x 4-8
Marguerite x 4
Rock Salt x 3

* Wind Crystal
Earth Crystal x 24-28
Sage x 4-7
Green Rock x 1
Little Worm x 11

* Ice Crystal
Chamomile x 4-8
Sleepshroom x 1-3
Rock Salt x 1-4

* Lightning Crystal
Water Crystal x 8-12
Sobbing Fungus x 1-2
Mhaura Garlic x 9

* Light Crystal
Dark Crystal x 3-4
Mhaura Garlic x 8-13
White Rock x 1
Puffball x 1

* Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 3-4
Deathball x 1
Black Rock x 1
Amaryllis x 2-7

* No Crystal
Green Rock x 1
Sobbing Fungus x 1
Carnation x 7-9
Rock Salt x 2-5


- Fruit Seeds

* Fire Crystal + Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 3-4
Yagudo Cherry x 16-18
Red Rock x 1

* Fire Crystal + Earth Crystal
Ice Crystal x 5
Saruta Orange x 18

* Fire Crystal + Water Crystal
Saruta Orange x 25-26
Yagudo Cherry x 25

* Fire Crystal + Wind Crystal
Saruta Orange 11-19

* Fire Crystal + Ice Crystal
Ice Crystal x 4

* Fire Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Fire Crystal + Light Crystal
Yagudo Cherry x 19

* Fire Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Fire Crystal + No Crystal
Ice Crystal x 3-5
Yagudo Cherry x 18
Saruta Orange x 16-20

* Earth Crystal + Fire Crystal
San dOria Carrot x 4

* Earth Crystal + Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 4
Eggplant x 9

* Earth Crystal + Water Crystal
Eggplant x 12

* Earth Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Light Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Earth Crystal + No Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 3-4
San dOria Carrot x 9-11

* Water Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Water Crystal + Earth Crystal
Eggplant x 10

* Water Crystal + Water Crystal
Watermelon x 3-9
Reishi Mushroom x 1
Eggplant x 7-9

* Water Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Water Crystal + Ice Crystal
Watermelon x 3-6

* Water Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Water Crystal + Light Crystal

* Water Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Water Crystal + No Crystal
Watermelon x 4
Blue Rock x 1

* Wind Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Water Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Wind Crystal
San dOria Grape x 10-11

* Wind Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Light Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Dark Crystal
Rolanberry x 4

* Wind Crystal + No Crystal
Earth Crystal x 26
Rolanberry x 4

* Ice Crystal + Fire Crystal
Mithran Tomato x 17

* Ice Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Water Crystal
Wind Crystal x 9-12
Buburimu Grape x 9-18

* Ice Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Ice Crystal
Buburimu Grape x 11-18

* Ice Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Kukuru Bean x ?

* Ice Crystal + Light Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Ice Crystal + None Crystal
Wind Crystal x 12
Mithran Tomato x 12-16

* Lightning Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Water Crystal
Coral Fungus x 1-2
Thunder Melon x 3

* Lightning Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + Ice Crystal
Delfland Pear x 7

* Lightning Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Coral Fungus x 3
Rock Salt x 2-4

* Lightning Crystal + Light Crystal
Delfland Pear x 4

* Lightning Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Lightning Crystal + No Crystal
Delfland Pear x 10
Rock Salt x 2-3

* Light Crystal + Fire Crystal

* Light Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Light Crystal + Water Crystal

* Light Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Light Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Light Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Light Crystal + Light Crystal
Faerie Apple x 23

* Light Crystal + Dark Crystal
Faerie Apple x 12

* Light Crystal + No Crystal
White Rock x 1

* Dark Crystal + Fire Crystal
Light Crystal x 3-4
Yagudo Cherry x 16-26
Saruta Orange x 24-28
Red Rock x 1

* Dark Crystal + Earth Crystal
Saruta Orange x 27

* Dark Crystal + Water Crystal
Danceshroom x 1

* Dark Crystal + Wind Crystal
Light Crystal x 4

* Dark Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Light Crystal x 2
Purple Rock x 1

* Dark Crystal + Light Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Dark Crystal Light Crystal x 3-4
Danceshroom x 1
Black Rock x 1-2

* Dark Crystal + No Crystal
Light Crystal x ?
Danceshroom x 1
Yagudo Cherry x 25

* No Crystal + Fire Crystal

* No Crystal + Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 3
Yellow Rock x 1

* No Crystal + Water Crystal
Watermelon x 7

* No Crystal + Wind Crystal
Green Rock x 1

* No Crystal + Ice Crystal
Rock Salt x 4

* No Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Purple Rock x 1

* No Crystal + Light Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-3
White Rock x 1
Faerie Apple x 9

* No Crystal + Dark Crystal
Black Rock x 1

* No Crystal + No Crystal
Blue Rock x 1
Rock Salt x 1-4



-*Porcelain Flowerpot*-


- Grain Seeds

* Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 3-4
Tarutaru Rice x 12

* Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 3-5
Tarutaru Rice x 4-9

* Water Crystal
Blue Peas x 9-20

* Wind Crystal
Earth Crystal x 11
Millioncorn x 10-11

* Ice Crystal
Wind Crystal x 16-20
Kukuru Bean x 7-12

* Lightning Crystal
Coral Fungus x 1-3
Marguerite x 3-5

* Light Crystal
Sunflower Seeds x 6-12
Ginger x 5

* Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-4
Coral Fungus x 1-5
Tarutaru Rice x 9-13

* No Crystal
Puffball x 1
Marguerite x 4-5
Red Rock x 1

- Vegetable Seeds

* Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 5
Popoto x 9-17

* Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 6-7
Frost Turnip x 5-11
Yellow Rock x 1
Little Worm x 9-10

* Water Crystal
Fire Crystal x 11-12
La Theine Cabbage. 3-7

* Wind Crystal
Rock Salt x 1
Gysahl Greens x 9-12

* Ice Crystal
Wind Crystal x 17-20
Saruta Cotton x 1-2

* Lightning Crystal
Water Crystal x 8-12
Wild Onion x 1-4

* Light Crystal
Ginger x 5-7

* Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-4
Woozyshroom x 1
Deathball x 1
Screamshroom x 1-2
Black Rock x 1-2
Ginger x 10

* No Crystal
Lilac x 2-4
Rain Lily x 10
Yellow Rock x 2
Rock Salt x 3
Woozyshroom x 1


- Herb Seeds

* Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 3-5
Kazham Pepper x 10-22

* Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 3
Black Pepper x 5-6
Carnation x 5-6

* Water Crystal
Fire Crystal x 9-10
Bay Leaves x 3-7

* Wind Crystal
Earth Crystal x 19-28
Sage x 5
Green Rock x 1
Little Worm x 8-12
Kazham Pepper x 20

* Ice Crystal
Chamomile x 8-11
Sleepshroom x 2

* Lightning Crystal
Water Crystal x 12
Sobbing Fungus x 1
Mhaura Garlic x 3-7
Little Worm x 12

* Light Crystal
White Rock x 1
Mhaura Garlic x 6-12

* Dark Crystal
Light Crystal x 2-4
Deathball x 1
Black Rock x 1-2
Amaryllis x 2-5

* No Crystal
Green Rock x 1
Amarylis x 7
Carnation x 6-9


- Fruit Seeds

* Fire Crystal + Fire Crystal
Ice Crystal x 4
Yagudo Cherry x 8-10

* Fire Crystal + Earth Crystal
Saruta Orange x 8-11

* Fire Crystal + Water Crystal
Saruta Orange x 9

* Fire Crystal + Wind Crystal
Saruta Orange x 8-9
Yagudo Cherry x 8-9

* Fire Crystal + Ice Crystal
Saruta Orange x 9-19
Yagudo Cherry x 8-9

* Fire Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Saruta Orange x 8

* Fire Crystal + Light Crystal

* Fire Crystal + Dark Crystal
Saruta Orange x 9
Yagudo Cherry x 8-10

* Fire Crystal + No Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Fire Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 4
San dOria Carrot x 8

* Earth Crystal + Earth Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 4
Eggplant x 5-10
Yellow Rock x 1

* Earth Crystal + Water Crystal
Watermelon x 6

* Earth Crystal + Wind Crystal
San dOria Carrot x 4

* Earth Crystal + Ice Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 5
San dOria Carrot x 4

* Earth Crystal + Lightning Crystal
San dOria Carrot 4-5

* Earth Crystal + Light Crystal

* Earth Crystal + Dark Crystal
Lightning Crystal x 4
San dOria Carrot x 9

* Earth Crystal + No Crystal
San dOria Carrot x 11

* Water Crystal + Fire Crystal
Watermelon x 5
Little Worm x 13

* Water Crystal + Earth Crystal
Watermelon x 4
Little Worm x 18

* Water Crystal + Water Crystal
Fire Crystals x 11
Watermelon x 7-8
Reishi Mushroom x 1
Blue Rock x 1

* Water Crystal + Wind Crystal
Watermelon x 5

* Water Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Water Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Fire Crystal x 10
Thunder Melon x 3-6
Little Worm x 6

* Water Crystal + Light Crystal
Watermelon x 4

* Water Crystal + Dark Crystal
Little Worm x 18

* Water Crystal + No Crystal
Reishi Mushroom x 1

* Wind Crystal + Fire Crystal
Saruta Orange x 11
Rolanberry x 12

* Wind Crystal + Earth Crystal
Earth Crystal x 8-12
Rolanberry x 10-12

* Wind Crystal + Water Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Wind Crystal
San dOria Grape x 7

* Wind Crystal + Ice Crystal
Rolanberry x 11-12

* Wind Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Earth Crystal x 10
Rolanberry x 10
Rock Salt x 3

* Wind Crystal + Light Crystal

* Wind Crystal + Dark Crystal
Rolanberry x 11-12

* Wind Crystal + No Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Fire Crystal
Wind Crystal x 18
Mithran Tomato x 12

* Ice Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Water Crystal
Wind Crystal 9-19
Buburimu Grape x 9-13

* Ice Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Ice Crystal
Wind Crystal x 16
Buburimu Grape x 4-13
Blue Rock x 1
Transparent Rock x 1

* Ice Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Mithran Tomato x 7

* Ice Crystal + Light Crystal

* Ice Crystal + Dark Crystal
Wind Crystal x 19
Mithran Tomato x 7-12

* Ice Crystal + No Crystal
Wind Crystal x 20
Saruta Cotton x 1

* Lightning Crystal + Fire Crystal
Derfland Pear x 11
Rock Salt x 4

* Lightning Crystal + Earth Crystal
Derfland Pear x 9
Rock Salt x 2

* Lightning Crystal + Water Crystal
Coral Fungus x 2
Rock Salt x 3

* Lightning Crystal + Wind Crystal
Derfland Pear x 8-9

* Lightning Crystal + Ice Crystal
Derfland Pear x 11
Rock Salt x 1-2

* Lightning Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Coral Fungus x 1-5
Purple Rock x 1
Rock Salt x 4

* Lightning Crystal + Light Crystal
Derfland Pear x 4

* Lightning Crystal + Dark Crystal
Derfland Pear x 9-11
Danceshroom x 1

* Lightning Crystal + No Crystal
Coral Fungus x 2
Wild Onion x 2

* Light Crystal + Fire Crystal
Red Rock x 1

* Light Crystal + Earth Crystal

* Light Crystal + Water Crystal

* Light Crystal + Wind Crystal

* Light Crystal + Ice Crystal

* Light Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* Light Crystal + Light Crystal
Dark Crystal x 4
Faerie Apple x 16
Reishi Mushroom x 1
White Rock x 2
Gold Ore x 3
Mithril Ore x 3
Silver Ore x 1

* Light Crystal + Dark Crystal

* Light Crystal + No Crystal
Rock Salt x 4
Faerie Apple x 12-16

* Dark Crystal + Fire Crystal
Yagudo Cherry x 16

* Dark Crystal + Earth Crystal
Light Crystal x 4
Saruta Orange x 19
Yagudo Cherry x 8-10

* Dark Crystal + Water Crystal
Blue Rock x 1
Danceshroom x 1

* Dark Crystal + Wind Crystal
Light Crystal x 3
Saruta Orange x 17

* Dark Crystal + Ice Crystal
Saruta Orange x 19-20
Yagudo Cherry x 8-10

* Dark Crystal + Lightning Crystal
Purple Rock x 1
Yagudo Cherry x 16

* Dark Crystal + Light Crystal

* Dark Crystal + Dark Crystal
Danceshroom x 1
Black Rock x 1-2

* Dark Crystal + No Crystal
Derfland Pear x 9
Amarylis x 6

* No Crystal + Fire Crystal

* No Crystal + Earth Crystal

* No Crystal + Water Crystal

* No Crystal + Wind Crystal

* No Crystal + Ice Crystal

* No Crystal + Lightning Crystal

* No Crystal + Light Crystal
Derfland Pear x 9
Rock Salt x 4

* No Crystal + Dark Crystal
Derfland Pear x 9

* No Crystal + No Crystal
Blue Rock x 1
Rock Salt x 3-4

After scrolling through this list a couple of time and getting quite dizzy, decided to reformat it. Hope it's easier to read.

Edited, Sun Mar 7 02:43:23 2004 by Katadyn

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Might I say that I think you are crazy for writing all this? Though, it is very good work.
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my god, someone has bested pikko in the grand gardening scheme!!!, oh well that tarus the first =).
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Crazy... yes, I believe you're right. I didn't really want it to be so looong, but to format the seed/crystal/pot chart into something more consise would have a true pain in the ****.

Believe it or not, I didn't even know about Pikko and her wonderful site until after I did this.

And finally, just to reiterate, this isn't my information. I only took what is offered on http://ffxi.game-host.org/eriwilde/ffxi/production/cultivation.html and reinterpreted it.
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2) The day whose element is weak versus the element of the crystal.
Example: (Fire Crystals arent items, but heres an example anyways) If I want to get Fire Crystals I would feed the seed with a Water Crystal. So, I would want to feed the seed on either Watersday or Lightningsday.


If you were feeding a water crystal, wouldn't you want to do it on Watersday or Firesday? I was just wondering if I should go by the rule (feed on a day that is weak to the crystal) or the example (feed on a day that is strong to the crystal).
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Sorry for the delay in the response...

You're absolutely correct. Smiley: banghead

I'll make the edit right now, thank you
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I just planted a Tree Sapling last Fireday. Any recommendation on what to do with that for the best non-crystal/food harvest? I know there isn't a lot of info out there on these so I was hoping you got a little adventurous.
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You're in uncharted water. Hopefully your sapling doesn't grow into a treant and eat your moogle Smiley: yikes

My main use for gardening is reducing the costs of synthing.

Good luck with your experiment, post your results!
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Spent 2k on 2 fruit seeds, put them in, left for night. Next morning i come on to feed them water crystals, and bam.... it doesn't give me option to feed them the crystals. Did I wait to long, thought i had 12 hours? Should i scartch them....
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Nah, gardening can take anywhere from 24-72 hrs to finish a cycle after you feed the crystal. Feeding the crystal (through experience) can take 24-48 hrs to get it depending on seed and such.
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Just harvested my first Tree Sapling. Took me 4 rl weeks to grow and 2 crystals. My result- 16 Cinnamon Sticks :P I'm sure better results are possible, but this was rather disheartening.
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Prim wrote:
Just harvested my first Tree Sapling. Took me 4 rl weeks to grow and 2 crystals. My result- 16 Cinnamon Sticks :P I'm sure better results are possible, but this was rather disheartening.


Yes, the results can be dishearting...you can get a rock salt sometimes..... ;_;

But you can get some good results, for example I used 2 dark crystals at 2 vegetables at a darkday and I get 2 black rocks at one plant and 1 black rock at the other (ummmm....i get some light crystals other day, I am not sure what I do to get light crystals)

IMHO the gardening secrecy to get money (and hard work) is repeat the gardening, you will get bad results, some results will be a razoable, sometimes you will get a good result and eventually you will get an exceptional result. I farmed some seeds and stockpiled these seeds (any kind) at my mog house. I started with one pot and when I harverst I seed a new plant (no time to waste, I don't play all time and I cannot wait to the apropriate day to seed, then I seed a new plant immediatly).

I am slowly buying new pots and I try buy diferent kinds of pots (brass, ceramic, earth, porcelain), with luck I will seed a plant at the right day inside the right pot. I use the crystal appropriate to the day that I feed the plant with the crystal (fireday I use fire crystal and so go). Basically, I have no control over the day I seed the plant or the day I harverst it, I only try use the correct crystal for the day I fertilize the plant with the crystal (I have seeds stockpiled and I have crystal of almost all the types stockpiled too). I use this method because I don't have 24/7 gaming to wait the correct day to seed, the correct day to feed with the crystal and the correct day to harverster, then this is the better I can do.

However, as the results have an alleatory componet, if you try repeat a recipe correctly to get an iten you want (for example, fire crystals) you can get other result (for example, khazam peppers or, worse, rock salt ;_;).

I stockpile the vegetables I harverst (popotos potatoes, khazam pepper, saruta cotton, etc) to get stacks because stacks sell better. I make the same with crystals I get. When my AH is free I sell them. Slowly I am making money.

I am sure that ther is other ways to get money. You can farm gil directly fron orcs, goblins, etc. However farming will be a lot boring if you need repeat it all time. You can camp a NM that drop something that sell high price at the AH. But you will need have a lot of patience to wait the NM spawn or to compete with other players trying get the same spwan that you (and maybe you need kill the NM a lot of times before it drop what you want). You can craft, but you need invest a lot of time and money to get the crafting skill at a level that permits you to craft something that sell at a high price. You can fish...

I prefer gardening. Let's tell the true, almost all the work is moogle made...you need only log at your mog house at the morning and at nightand sometimes you need farm some seeds.

But rock salts are really dishearting.... ;_;


Edited, Fri Mar 26 14:37:53 2004 by Johao
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Someone need to move this thread to the *sticky* thread in the Trade skills forum =)
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I saved the original post as a word doc and printed it out. Best. Gardening. Guide. Ever.
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all pretty good, cept you might wanna do a section on which recipes are more profitable, currently have about 5 ceramic pots growing corn and about 5 growing fire Cs (and 2 growing plat nuggets).

Gardening is great, but I'd like to know if there are any recipes that are VERY good for profit that you can do w/ regular seeds and not tree cuttings.
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This guide was SO VERY helpful! I am interested in becoming one of your gardening researchers. I have done a bit of gardening myself and have had some positive results! All I ever did was try to use the same crystal as the day, but never paid attention to the planting day or phase of the moon. I will try some of the combinations you have suggested and I will post some of my findings so you can update the guide. I agree that this is front-page material! Let's keep up the good work!

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Just wanted to say thanks for the *brilliant* guide. I've been trying to Sobbing Fungi for ages to make Silence Potions, and this has helped me a lot. Thanks!
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You should call this post "Gardening for Dummies" (because this is the first time I've understood completely the whole deal about elemental relationships...). A wonderful addition to the gardening information here.

I wanted to print it out, but it is a little long for me in this form. I compressed the introduction (up until the actual recipes) and posted the .doc <here> in case anyone else wants to print it off. The recipes will have to wait until I have more time. >_<

Thanks for sharing your knowledge (and l337 comprehension skills)!

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#23 Apr 19 2004 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I am in the same boat as you. I lucked out once and made 2 black rocks with little effort from gardening, that sold fast and made tons of gil (at least for me it was). I was hooked on gardening after that. So I bought a bunch of pots and started doing the same formula. (Veg seed + Dark Crystal = ?) This time with mixed results. I used different/cheaper pots, and didnt pay attention to the day/moon as much. I still had moderate success 4 light crystals per plant, 1 black rock and some various mushrooms. Still made a profit. Now with a new character (whos poor) I want to start the same process. I am on Phoenix server in Bastok and want to learn/teach gardening. I am slowly buying pots and farming seeds and crystals. I like to garden black stones and light crytals since they seem to be worth alot of gil (at least for me they are). Is there any specific combo out there geared toward making gil from gardening.

Also a side question. Does wearing field gear (+1 mining and harvesting) increase your gardening skills? and if so how long do I have to wear it, and when?
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Thanks for the work, have been adding to the bilingual chart, but this is helpful!

No, field gear does not increase gardening, the only increase to gardening comes from the mog enhancement for earth.

My tree sapling results:
Brass pot Dark, dark Rock salt
Brass pot Dark, Ice Black chocobo feathers
Brass pot light, light Gold leaves

Porc Pot dark, dark Persikoses
Porc pot Light, light shell bugs

Tree cuttings:
brass pot no crystals tree sapling
earthen pot Dark, Ice black chocobo feathers

Cactus Stems
brass pot light, light dark crystals
brass pot dark, water light crystals

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I have been trying like heck to cultivate Black Rocks and Light Crystals. They are worth decent gil, Get about 2500 to 4000 gil per pot. Ive been working on the formula for a while now. I just planted a new batch last night, Ill report on the results. Till then my formula is as follows.


Any flower pot
Plant Vegetable seeds on Lightsday
Fertilze Dark Crystals on Darksday
Harvest on Darksday close to Full moon or Waxing or Waning Gibbous.

Well thats been working for me, but Im sure there are better ways out there. Im only interested in selling the items for gil at the moment. Let me know if there is better ways out there.
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Has anyone found any information on the new flower pot yet? Arcana Pot, I think. Im guessing it has light or dark elements attached to it, but I can only speculate. If this is the case I cant wait to get one. I only fertilize dark cyrstals to harvest black rocks and light cyrstals and this pot (hopefully) will increse the volume harvested. I looked everywhere in bastok last night, but alas I could not find it. If anyone out there knows about it please let me know.
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From what I have seen of the recipes and my own experience (which isn't large), what pot you use has *nothing* to do with *what* you get, rather it affects the *quantity.* More expensive pots tend to produce more of an item.

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While waiting for the (insert explitive) patch, I'll throw in my 2 sense on gardening.

So far i have grown 40 cuttings,21 sapplings, and numerous other things, with 20 more sapplings and 10 more cuttings in the works. So far I have shown a gross profit of over 2 million gil. I say this for credibility only.

Let me break it Down.

1. As far as anyone knows everything is theory and Im too lazy to run mulivariate regressions to find out. Still, I use brass flower pots, plant on the day strong to the seed, feed on the day strong to the crystal, and harvest on the same day/full moon.

2. So far with Sapplings I have been 3/21 for dark ore (dark crystal x2), gotten countless stacks of rock salt, heaps of dark crystals, light clusters, and 2.5 stacks of persiskos. My cuttings have varied widely mainly becuase I tried many different combinations until I hit on platinum nuggets (light crystals x2, same for light ore with sapplings).

Tips:
1. Spend the extra dollar or two a month to have some mules. Once you get the startup capital you can grow 30 plants at a time.
2. Grow your own sapplings. Plant tree cuttings on ice day, and then just check up on them once a day. Dont feed them. You can net 15 sapplings from 10 cuttings on a good day.
3. When you go for elemental ore try for one type only as the sucess rate is low. It takes 9 days or so before you can feed the first crystal so I check AH in Jeuno to see which type of Ore is selling the best right before I feed crystals.
4. Use the Mithrapride Timer to figure out when to feed. You have over 24 hours to feed your plant so you can schedule ahead of time to get the right crystal day.

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I planted Herb seeds in a Earthen pot and did not feed a crystal. My yeild was 1 green rock.

Unfortunately I did not check what time and day it was when I planted the seeds, I also did not check what time or day it was when I harvested (I did not know anything at the time).
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So if tree cuttings are Ice then what element are tree saplings?
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Ooh, a sticky.

Well since no posted Pikko's link, I'll do so here:

Pikko's Pots


Just because you can never have too much good info.

Edited, Thu Apr 22 17:23:56 2004 by trickybeck
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Alright, just to get the straight. If I want Fire Crystals, I should:

1. Buy a Brass Flowerpot.
2. Plant my Vegetable Seeds on Lightningsday
3. Use a Water Crystal also on Lightningsday (or is it Firesday?)
4. Harvest on any day but Firesday.

Can you clarify part 3 and/or tell me I'm an idiot and don't understand anything? :)
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#34 Apr 22 2004 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
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This one is good too:

http://cannotlinkto/ffxi/gardening/

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Quote:
Here is the example of a Fire Crystal crop, condensed:
The flowerpot is the Brass Flowerpot.
The seed is the Fruit Seed.
The crystal used is Water Crystal.
Plant the Fruit Seed on either Lightsday, Darksday or Watersday.
Feed the Water Crystal when the plant needs it.
You can do this again, seeing as how the seed is a Fruit Seed. You do not have to.
Harvest should be during the Full Moon, on any day except Firesday.
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Full Moon:

Porcelain Pot x16
Tree Cutting
Wait 3 real life days
Light Crystal (didnt' check/bother for darksday)
Wait 3 real life days
Light Crystal (didnt' check/bother for darksday)
Wait 3-4 real life days
YEAH! Rock Salt, Dark Crystal and...........

200k worth of Platium Nuggets \(*o)/

So basically, I get 100k every 10 days from each of my characters. So, if I follow this game and plan ahead with which days I should plant seed, feed crystal, and harvest, I could probably increase my harvest a bit and maybe get a bit more money. All I need it's 4 more characters so I can have 10 (included my friend's) and get 1 million every 10 days. HA, sounds easy, but waiting is soo hard...

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A couple notes:

You have listed (copied) results for every seed/flowerpot type, flowerpot type does not affect the set of potential results, the seed does that. Flowerpot only affects quantity on some items.

You have listed (copied) 81 different combinations for fruit seeds, why not do some more research and cut it down to 18, 9 for first crystal (or lack of) added, 9 for the second. When gardening fruit seeds (and I assume tree cutting, tree saplings, and cactus stems) you either get a result from the first crystal or the second, not both.

You have compiled some good information, you just need to condense it.
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great post

where can i find this Mithrapride Timer at?
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Had to unsticky, and make this as a guide. It can be found here - http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/guides.html?guide=216
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whoever posted http:cannotlinkto/ffxi knows whats up. You can follow the links to the Mithrapride timer, and Rebekas gardening guide is the best ive seen.
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Back to the top you go <bump>

Can this thread be given a permanent posisition somplace?
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It has been turn into a guide.
#43 Apr 29 2004 at 8:33 PM Rating: Decent
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OK...none of these gardening recipes net awesome money..im currently trying to create ice ore with porc. sapp and 2 ice.. can someone please tell me they actually have done this so we can all start making real money
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oh yea and one ice ore is currently going for 400k on my server

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These were some of the results I got gardening that were outside your ranges on the guide (I hope you will still update it).

All with Brass flowerpots: (Seed, Crystal -> Result)
Vegetable, Fire -> 20 popotoes
Vegetable, Wind -> 3 Rock salt (woohoo)
Grain, Lightning -> 10 Blue Peas
Grain, Wind -> 10 millioncorn
Vegetable, Water -> 20 fire crystals (!)
Grain, Lightning -> 2 marguerites

If you have any questions about the methods I used, just ask.

I thought the 20 fire crystals result was good, so I'll tell you more about that one. It was a vegetable seed planted on Ice day, nourished with Water crystal on light day, harvested on Lightning day with 98% full moon.

The research continues...

Hilkiah, Bastok, Phoenix

EDIT: oops, just read that it is now a guide. I'll put this post there also

Edited, Sat May 1 02:19:35 2004 by Jimera
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Hi, this has been a wonderful guide and I appreciate the time that went into it. Its taken me a long time to finially take the plung, but today I started. I had 3 workbenches and 3 pots in my house for 3 weeks and have been too afraid.

My mog has not asked me to feed the plant though even though its been over a whole V week. Is this normal? I planted vegetable seeds.

I know that saplings take forever, but... Are we talking V days or earth days for waiting? Thanks.
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Dare I hope for a sticky?
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#48 May 04 2004 at 12:01 AM Rating: Decent
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You don't need a sticky. It's been reformatted in the game guides section and I'm posting the link there right now so it never gets lost.
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May i ask...How did you find all this out? |+_+|
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Most of us started by experimenting, and sharing our results. I find that by watching the market, and planning my harvest results am able to make enough money for my needs, support other crafters in the LS, and take a few special requests.
One hint that I have, let your "mules" garden. It doesn't tie your main character down if you want to level.
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#51 May 18 2004 at 2:54 PM Rating: Default
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I've decided to do away with this rhyme i posted for now because there is still much debate on results.

Edited, Mon May 31 17:12:12 2004 by DamienTaru
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