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#1 Apr 22 2004 at 1:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Faranim's Guide to Japanese Macros
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Intro
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The purpose of this guide is simple. To explain how to write and use macros with Japanese characters using the NA version of FFXI. This guide is free to share, and I encourage people to let others know how to do this, since many people will enjoy having access to the hundreds of Japanese Characters.


What you will need
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1. A Method of entering Japanese Characters into a text document, so that they can be copied and pasted into macros. I will cover using a Japanese IME, along with a program called JWPce.

2. A 3rd party Macro editor. While several of these exist, I will only refer to the one I use - VanaHand. Another one that I know of is called FFXIUtilPlus which includes various other features in addition to a Macro editor.


Getting Started
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There are two options for this. I would highly recommend the IME method, however it will require your Windows Install CD.

A1. IME - Installation
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-Under the Control Panel, open up the "Regional and Language Options" menu.
-Click on the "Languages" tab
-Make sure that the "Install files for East Asian Languages" box is checked. If it isn't already, mark the box and press Apply. You will most likely be prompted to enter your Windows CD-ROM so that Windows can download the necessary files. If you don't have a Windows CD (for whatever reason) Please jump to method B. below.
-Click on the "Details..." Button near the top of the Languages menu once Asian fonts are installed.
-Under "Installed services" Press "Add..." then Select Japanese. The keyboard Layout should automatically choose the Microsoft IME Standard.
-You can then change the Language Bar settings to meet your personal needs. If you are only installing the IME for making Japanese Macros, you don't really need to bother because the default settings work fine.

A2. IME - Entering Characters:
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-Open up Notepad or any other word processor, and enter Japanese text mode by pressing Left Alt + Shift until your language bar says JP
-Press Left Alt + Grave (The ~ key at the top left of your keyboard). This should change from Direct Input to Hiragana Mode. Alternatively you can press left Ctrl + Caps Lock.
-Type "kigou" and press spacebar twice. This will bring up the list of symbols. (Note: Kigou is the japanese word for "symbol")
-You can also type other Japanese phrases if you'd like (assuming you know Japanese)


B. JWPce
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-First, find and download the program (a simple Google search should find it)
-This program acts like a Japanese Word Processing program but it doesn't require an IME to use. Simply type the words you want and they should appear in hiragana.
-The easiest way to get symbols is to selec the "kanji" tab at the top and go to the "JIS Table".
-From there, you can find whatever symbols you wish (most symbols are near the top).
-*Note* For whatever reason, I haven't been able to find certain symbols in JWPce such as some of the mouths for faces and the music note. If anybody figures out how to get those using JWPce please let me know.


Getting those Japanese characters into your macros
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A. Download VanaHand (Again, Google it). This program is Japanese so just keep hitting enter on the menus to install it.
B. Open up VanaHand. You will be prompted for a folder. Go to your PlayOnline / FinalFantasyXI / Users / xxxxxxx folder. xxxxxx will be a string of letters which represents one of your characters.
C. Hopefully, VanaHand will open up your macro files and you should be able to see them and edit them.
D. NOW, taking your previously typed symbols, Copy and Paste them into VanaHand for whichever macros you want them in.
*NOTE* VanaHand will NOT display ANY of these characters properly. HOWEVER, they will all appear correctly when you use the macros in FFXI.
E. Make sure you save your macro files before exiting VanaHand.
F. If you want to use Auto-Translate in combination with Japanese characters, Write out the macros in FFXI using the auto-translate phrases first. THEN insert the characters where you want them with VanaHand and make sure you don't erase the auto-translate portion of your macro (which will also appear as a lot of garbage characters inside of VanaHand)


Conclusion
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I hope you found this guide to be helpful in writing and using Japanese Macros. Good Luck!
#2 Apr 22 2004 at 3:27 PM Rating: Good
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A cookie for Faranim

Just because I know a lot of people asked about this awhile ago:
Bump ^-^b
#3 Apr 22 2004 at 3:29 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, is this THE Faranim?



If so, have a Smiley: cookie on me. Smiley: smile
#5 Apr 23 2004 at 11:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Where can I download JWPce from? I downloaded some version of it from some place, (Sorry, I don't remember where exactly, I'm at work right now) and after I extracted the Winzip files there were only Wordpad files and 2 or 3 other files that weren't recognized. Did I do something wrong? ^^;

I tried to do the "Install files for East Asian Languages" method the first time around, but my computer came pre-installed with the Windows XP Home Edition, so I don't have a CD for that, which is why I jumped to the "B" method.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! What I'm really looking forward to (If this is possible?) Would be to add that musical kanji-type note into my Bard macros. ^^

/kneel Faranim. Bards are the bestest! ^^v
#6 Apr 23 2004 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Let me rephrase:

Is there any way to apply these methods to directly input text as you are playing?

Edited, Fri Apr 23 13:35:15 2004 by Tadachan

Edited, Fri Apr 23 13:45:53 2004 by Tadachan
#7 Apr 23 2004 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
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Tadachan wrote:
Anyone know how to get direct Japanese input in FFXI? I hate typing in roumaji all the time... Stupid Squenix. It'd be nice to be able to type it as you go, instead of just having pre-set phrases.

Edited, Fri Apr 23 13:35:15 2004 by Tadachan


The US release doesn't support it.
#8 Jun 20 2004 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
I'm using Word of Office XP and when I copy/paste Kanji from word into VanHand, it just pastes question marks. I thought that was what was meant by "VanaHand will NOT display ANY of these characters properly" but in the game they were just question marks as well. However, when I copy the text from Word into Notepad, and then copy the text from Notepad into VanHand, it comes out as a bunch of jumbled stuff and in the game I get exactly what I wanted. So if anybody else is using Word and having problems, this should fix it.

Edited, Sun Sep 19 23:01:44 2004 by Sesshou
#9 Jun 20 2004 at 9:14 AM Rating: Decent
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wel its good to see this finally come to the alla boards.

i've always used http://vnboards.ign.com/FFXI_General_Board/b22412/67838111/p1/ which is exactly the same thing
#10 Jul 31 2004 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
this is so frustrating... ive tried everything to get it to stop changing everything i paste into question marks and its just not working T.T
i tried that wordpad to notepad thing and that didnt help either... any suggestions?
#11 Jul 31 2004 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I have windows 2000, any solutions for that?
#12 Aug 01 2004 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
i have yet to see a better website than this for help with vanahand.. its a very strange program
#13 Aug 01 2004 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
newbie question.. what advantages will it give one if he uses JPN characters for Macro rather then English????
#14 Aug 01 2004 at 1:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Supposedly someone found a way to directly insert Kanji and Kana into FFXI, but that's only a rumor, still that would be alot easier then typing out roumaji, I don't know if all Japanese people can read english characters to understand the Roumaji.
#15 Sep 19 2004 at 10:02 PM Rating: Decent
Cillranchello: Inserting Kanji into the macros is what I was talking about. For some reason, in my previous post, I said I was inserting text when I meant to say Kanji. I have edited my post to fix that.
#16 Nov 05 2004 at 8:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I'v know for quite some time now but what you need to do is insert the text/kanji throu a right click paste.

Simple and Sweet.
#17 Nov 14 2004 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
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I hate new programs, I always end up feeling like a total noob... Like when I downloaded FF parser :( Anyone, please help ^^

I did the steps installing the JP languages, etc... Didn't need a disk for whatever reason. I've been having fun typing stuff into notepad and wordpad, getting the music note and whatnot. I opened up Vanahand and accessed the macro file for my character, and put some symbols into the macro via cut + paste process... After saving and opening FFXI, my macros still only exhibit the ???. The guide says Vanahand will display ??? but not the game... However, the game does in fact display only ?'s for me.

Any suggestions? Wanna get this running by later today ^^
#18 Nov 17 2004 at 5:12 PM Rating: Default
well alot. people who are JPN in your PT will respond in english and talk to you in JPN. and you have no idea what they're saying.
#19 Jan 19 2005 at 9:38 PM Rating: Decent
Same thing is happening to me. I tried to Copy+Paste it form Word and Notepad (By Right click) and then into VanaHand. It still apears as ?? after I switch to another macro. I dont know how to fix this, can somone tell me how to fix this?
#20 Feb 06 2005 at 11:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Cillranchello wrote:
Supposedly someone found a way to directly insert Kanji and Kana into FFXI, but that's only a rumor, still that would be alot easier then typing out roumaji, I don't know if all Japanese people can read english characters to understand the Roumaji.


If anyone knows how to do this please please let me know.
#21 Feb 07 2005 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
Hmm.. I have used FFXIUtil before my NTSC-J PS2 and copy of FFXI and RoZ, and the way to avoid having ??? is to actually copy the text as Shift-JIS.
For some reason, if you use a Japanse IME (NJStar Communicator) to make the macro lines, it sadly shows up as ??? in the game.
But if you copy and paste as Shift-JIS from a Japanese Word Processor like NJStar Japanese Word Processor, the problem is solved.
#22 Feb 07 2005 at 11:16 PM Rating: Decent
Uh..just one comment. This is illegal. I just talked to a GM about it.
#23 Mar 25 2005 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I dont see why it would be illegal... If they dont let us type in kana for some reason, and we found a way around it, who cares -.-

its their shortcommings, not our transgrescence
#24 Apr 05 2005 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
Its only illegal because it changes the program and breaks the Square-Enix EULA that you agreed to when you signed up. But as someone said S-E did lil to help relations between JP and EN members. This helps a little bit if people use it to its fullest.
#25 Apr 11 2005 at 11:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey folks!

I was having the same problem with my stuff showing up as ????. So I found and downloaded the NJStar Japanese word processor as noted by Roukii above. Not only did it work when I copied and pasted from the NJStar WP, but there's a tab on that program you can bring up with various symbols that you can insert including the coveted stars and musical notes. If you download it, the WP program comes with a 30 day trial license for free. I'll probably buy since I can write some japanese anyway but 30 days should be plenty for those who want to make a few cool macros. Just like with all the other programs I just found it on google and downloaded it.

Let me know if any questions.

(Oh and as for this being illeagal... I'm just gonna say it's for educational purposes only. That worked with my SNES emulator and japanese games that I may or may not have deleated after 24 hours. ^.^)

Thanks!
#26 Apr 12 2005 at 7:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Ugh!

Ok I THOUGHT I had it working as when I pasted it into Vanahand it indeed came up as gibberish... BUT it turns out that my macros in game ALSO come up as gibberish... no japanese. Anyone else encounter this problem yet? I've tried using both JWPce and NJStar word processor (and copy+paste combinations of both)and no goods yet. Let me know if you have any insight for this.

TROUBLESHOOTING: (edit)

I finally got it to work, this is how. Turns out the ONLY way this will copy and paste from the NJStar Japanese Word processor correctly (as Roukii said above)is if you right click, on what you want to copy and select Copy As- "Shift-Jis" format. If you just copy and paste, you might get gibberish symbols on Vanahand, but in game all you will get is gibberish symbols as well. But when I selected Shift-Jis as my copy format and right clicked to paste as well it worked like a charm.

Let me know if you have any questions as I spent quite a bit of time trying everything to finally get this to work! ^.^

Thanks!



Edited, Wed Apr 13 08:24:27 2005 by EludePhoenix

Edited, Wed Apr 13 08:28:37 2005 by EludePhoenix
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