Guide on Race/Job/Subjob Selection for New PlayersFollow

Apparently this guide sucked ***. (*'-')b

Edited, Mon Apr 4 02:29:05 2005 by GonadSandStrifE

well I have to give you a rate up for trying but....
the sad fact is (Im not going to make many friends saying this but its true) 75-80% of the new players I hav encountered could care less about not gimping themselves and playing the job they choose right.



there is info on alot of sites like this but either they dont read or dont care.

probably "its my game I play they way I want" well thats fine but when 5 others expect you to do your job and you dont welll..... you get the point


anyway nice job to bad alot of new players dont care

such a shame

Personally, I think you did an excellent job on this guide. ^^ You did a good job of weighing the pros and cons of each class on a neutral basis, so that I can't see any traces of the popular "Dark Knight > All Damage Dealer" phrase. You also didn't make another mistake (at least in my book) which is dictating EXACTLY what you should do, but just put it down as what you'll probably be expected to do. Thus, you managed to leave the door for creativity open. And you didn't say that certain race/jobs sucked, just some were easier and more natural for the job. Again, thank you so much for doing that, it irks me so much when people beat the lack of creativity into people's heads.

All that being said, Elvaan Samurai are the best!!! Galka are too big to fit in our armor and still look cool, and mithra hold their katana like a baseball bat! ...yah...hrrrrmph...I'm not a hypoctrite, or anything...
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Rate up for not holding that outburst against me! :P

Hey, some support! ^^ Thanks, I've had a bad day and one of the reasons I typed this was to get my mind off the day, heh. The positive feedback sure makes me feel better. ^^

Thanks. ^^ And, yes, go Giants. ^^ (Even though they kinda stink this year, at least the NL West has suddenly become a ****** division. ^^)

I want to make a DK/SAM but I don't know if it will work like I want it to. I made a Galkan Warrior in Bastok thats level 4 now. I'm leveling swords right now. Could I get a little help on this anyone please?

Well, first off, I would get an axe and great axe A.S.A.P. Also, SAM sub would only really be viable at level 60, but there is a problem with it. A DRK/WAR or even a DRK/THF cannot go "all-out", so to speak. What I mean is that they will never be able to reach their full damage potential.

Subbing SAM would increase the full damage potential, but you won't be doing any more damage than you would with a different sub because you have to hold back in order to keep hate on the tank. You can give it a try though. ^^ Good luck.

Good job on a well-written guide. Maybe a few new or future players will see it and benefit.

I do have one complaint. You really shortchanged the Elvaan bard. Sure, I am biased (see below). I think this might be the best class for bard honestly. Bards aren't supposed to heal. My MP is a special bonus for emergencies. I don't heal at least 75% of the fights when I am exping. And juice can make up for any lack of MP.

Elvaan have the HP, VIT, CHR to handle the beating that comes when you are dealing with a link that needs to be lullabied. I spent a good bit of my time in Yhoator Jungle sleeping any random mandragoras that popped by our camp just to avoid another party snagging them. I could keep a second mob claimed so that we could chain them, not to mention keeping my songs up on the other party members. I would think a Taru would have a devil of a time doing this. If a lullaby was resisted, they'd have to spend some time getting hit before they can recast.

Same idea for BCNM40, which is nothing with a dead bard. I'd go Elvaan, Hume, Taru, etc for the best bard races. Remember, your party has a whm or a rdm/whm (or even a smn, although it is a waste) as the main healer. A pld heals a pld and a nin avoids attacks altogether so the bard's MP should be reserved for emergency heals and spells like Poisona. A bard that spends time healing is a bard that isn't singing.

If you're dealing with new players, BCNM's, EXP parties, and just about everything else (Blind Moby, anyone?) is wayyyyy off. The best guide for choosing your race/job is this: Look at the races, gauge their strengths, pick your challenge level, go with your interests!

In my case, I got a TON of heat for going for DRK/RDM from the very beginning. However, I KNEW that I wanted to do it. I wanted the firepower, and I wanted the magic flexibility, and I knew I'd take a hit on defense. It's not been super easy, but I knew ahead of time, and decided, as a seasoned player, that I didn't want the road to be too easy, and it's been fine. Some people want to try different combos - otherwise Vana'diel would be a lame world of clones.

I know, and I'm very upfront about it - I hit well, and I can be a backup healer - 99% of the time, they're fine with it, because even with my job combo, I'm consistent.

What an awsome guide! A++ would read again.


Even though I'm almost lvl 60, I have to admit that white maging and black mageing are pretty much all I know. If I started a new job (I'd love to lvl BST someday) I'd be pretty ignorant. So if anything thanks for the equip info! Now I know what to buy before I get a feel for the job.

Bookmarked and bumped ^^

I'd like to make a suggested correction to your ranger guide. You mention dex is a close second on importance to agi. Why? Ranged accuracy is agility (though + ranged accuracy is a dime a dozen), and ranged damage is STR (and +ranged attack is pretty rare...). That's why mithra isn't the only choice for ranger. On the contrary, all the best rangers I've ever partied with have been hume.

OK, it's been over a month, so I think it's fair to bump this again. ^^;;

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Just in case it may enlighten a new member or two. ^^