Take a night off to go mining.Follow

Mining has been my source of income since I have started playing this game. I remember when I was a newb I thought one platinum ore and some mythril was like super rich man status. Started off in pal mines and eventually worked my way into gusgen. This mine really is a money maker. Problem with gusgen is that there are so many people/botters/sellers in there finding points can be a pain in the ***. Even when you do find them your not garunteed some prick won't run by and start swinging away too. If you find that the constant competition of gusgen is making your head hurt then go to movopolos. Darksteel doesn't fall as often and neither does gold. However the occasional platinum on top of the occasional darksteel and gold balances that out. Toss on the moblin gear, which you can mule out fast, and money per hour should be real nice. Of course there's always ifrits if these sound too dull. Good luck and happy mining!

Edidted in case someone doesnt want to read all the way down.

Since this turned into a huge mining topic and I love to mine ill fill in some more details. Leveling goldsmithing and smithing to at least 20 is a must. Silver ingots and iron sheets sell nice and for good profit. Not only is profit affected but the amount of space in your inventory and AH will be reduced. I personally can't stand seeing anyone mining a point without gear on. It's like watching potential slip away. This might just be me but I recomend having gear on at all times when mining. Supposedly the drop rate isn't affected but the amount swings and breaks you have go down. Either way that spells out more swings and chances of hitting it big.

Movopolos is now my new favorite mining spot. Mostly because of the amount of hell one goes through to mine gusgen. Mining movpolos reminds me of pal mines in my days of being lower level. Its peacefull and there aren't really ever many miners in there, and the ones that are there abide my the miners ettiquette. Ifrits is my second choice to mining. Ifrits is a huge risk though and can pay out well or make you really mad that you have to go exp again. Recently I mined the place for about 4 hours and walked out with over well over 300k in profit. It can be better infact also as I have made more then that. It can also be a huge bust and about 5k exp if you are unlucky and careless.

Jobs affect mining as well. I like to take my 59 RDM and sub BLM for mining. Escape and warp make the trip a lot nicer. Escape in gusgen is one of the most awsome spells ever as zoning to reset your mining drops is easy as hell and one doesn't have to wait/pray for the doors to open. Its also been really usefull for ifrits as the mine itself is rather large and taking time to zone out would hurt my results. The perfect mining combo IMHO for mines other then ifrists would be thf/blm. Flee in conjunction with warp/escape can make ones life a lot easier and make points come a lot faster. I do however like to mine ifrits with my RDM since chainspell + escape once every two hours has saved me a many times.

As with every miner one should develope a route. Routes may very from time to time depending on the amount of miners at competeing against you. I would try to have at least two maybe three routes. An example would be in gusgen. I havent been really stoked on this place for a while but at one point in time I was able to hit up every point other then the 4 lower points. Now I try to hit fewer points as competition is insane in this place.

HAHA! AGAIN GOOD LUCK AND GOOD MINING!


malcolinus

Edited, Tue Apr 5 16:30:54 2005 by fenderputy

I may be lucky, or it may be that I just did so many, but it seemed to me that I started HQing iron for steel pretty quickly after skilling to the cap, and got a couple HQs even before I hit the cap for the recipe. Smithing and Goldsmithing in conjunction with mining are not only worth it to save space, but also make your ores into things that are even more profitable.

That being said, I wouldn't recommend every new adventurer to rush off to Gusgen Mines. I used to mine very often in Yuhgott and Ifrit's Cauldron and found it a fun, non-competitive way to make gil and level crafts at the same time.

Then I went to Gusgen. What a frickin nightmare. Within the first 5 minutes, I already had to /blist one person who came up to a point I was mining, started swinging, and then began screaming that I stole his mining point. The three characters Axialang, Dxialang, and Fxialang really took a shine to me as well, and constantly followed me around. I wonder who they follow around the other 22 hours of every day that they're in there.

Yes, there is money in Gusgen, and the best ores short of Ifrit's Cauldron, but is it worth it? The OP paints it like a wonderful treasure trove of gil, and if it is like that on your server, you are incredibly lucky. However, don't be surprised if you find that Gusgen is extremely unfriendly and competitive, and with all that sh*t going on, you may want to try Yughott for less big strikes, but often just as much gil/hour, and a hell of a lot more pleasant atmosphere.

Or really join the Big Leagues and head out to Ifrit's. I have found very little competition there, but expect to die. A lot. You can look it up in the Areas section for details on how to reduce this as much as possible.

Edited, Mon Apr 4 14:35:09 2005 by Minaku

How about take a night off and go excavating or harvesting?

I always love to mine or log, but people seem to make it miserable by stealing points (*cough* gil sellers *cough*).

I find that almost no one ever does the HE in HELM. You really want a stress free way to make decent money (sure it isn't an adamantium ore or even darksteel you dig up...) to break the cycle of doing the same thing over and over, try one of the less pursued paths.

i'm sorry to hear the bad experiences in gusgen Minaku. on Bahamut the 2 bots that were always there have been removed; and lately when i do a /sea Gusgen there is no more than 7-8 people and those people may not even be mining. if someone has the extra time they can just do a /sea gusgen and go when there are very few people there. if you are the only one mining you can get 6 gold/darksteel in one hour. which can be near 100k if you add in the iron. but even when the place is packed its still better to be there than seeking in jeuno. i'd like to try ifrit's cauldron sometime, but i'm making plenty of money in gusgen right now, slowly getting closer to my scorpion harness. when i made this thread i was a fuming a little from being accused of buying gil multiple times in one night; but hopefully some people will see how easy some people make money.

I mine Oldton Movopolis. Problem there is only 8 points and if there are more than 2 people there, it is crowded. I can make about 100k a trip if I bring some fire and 6 stacks of picks. I have made as much as 250k in 1 particularly lucky trip. I make my own silver/brass/iron ingots in the field.

Oh, I'm not saying it doesn't suck, it does. But the fact is a point isn't claimed by anyone, so nobody can "steal" a mining point. Stating someone "stole" a mining point is wrong, because they cannot be stolen since they aren't claimed.

The mining gil sellers are annoying in more ways than you might think. Not only do these morons mine 24/7, disregard what used to be the common courtesy of "miner's etiquette" (before the plague of gil sellers descended), but they also throw away ore that other miners who are actually playing the game could use to synth into ingots... iron, silver, zinc, tin, copper. This translates to less iron, silver, and brass ingots on the AH, driving prices for them up, which in turn drives prices of the items that consume these materials during synthesis up.

I've been mining since I've been playing the game (going on two years now), and seeing these idiots throw away good material is frustrating. To make matters worse, with the new code that SE introduced to combat gil sellers in the mines, they've added in what I believe is a 24 hour cool-down period. I'll explain.

If you have mined for x amount of hours (I have found it's about 3 or so), you will start to dig up nothing but complete crap for the most part. No amount of zoning will reset it, either. The only way to reset is to STOP mining for 24 hours. After the cool-down period, the results obtained from mining are dramatically improved. I've used this method for weeks now, and I rarely walk away with an undesirable haul.

Now, apply this to the moron gil sellers who mine 24/7. They never stop mining, therefore the cool-down period never occurs. Since the cool-down period is never hit, they are rarely digging up good ore, which means they are:

Wasting mining points

Digging up a lot of iron/silver/tin/copper, and THROWING it away

Granted zinc, tin & copper are nothing to write home about, but some people skill up on it, and occassionally the brass ingots at least help pay for pickaxes and other expenses.

I may be off by one, it might be 4. It also may vary by location. If you've seen 4 active points, then I would say that's the limit. I mined in teams in Yughott a long time ago, so memory of that location isn't the best, but I never recall the other party members finding more than 3 active points.

You don't need SE to state how many active points there are, you just need to collaborate and have enough people to cover all the areas that contain the points, and count the active ones. *shrugs*

Nice encouragement for someone like me who doesnt really want to try mining >.<"

Btw other than Gusgen mines, what other mines can i mine in at level 50? ^^

Roughly how much would a set of mining gear cost and what other preparations are needed? For eg number of pickaxes recommended, and craftskills that will help reduce the number of unstackable items.

Oh and hearing you earn 4 million gils that way. I must say i'm rather tempted.

Rated Up! ^^

You're encouraging people to go mining, some of the caveats of mining were brought up and discussed. Deal with it.

No, nothing witty to retort. But I'll go ahead and rate you down again since you asked me to. Instead of kicking like a child when the thread you started doesn't go in the direction you like is no reason to act like a tard.

Needalife, just shut up. You don't sound cool.

Alright, I wanna start mining. Suggestions on what I need, where I should start, and how much I will need to start?

I currently have 30k, and I'm a DRK 28.

Thank you...I'm going to call you Tulip to save time.

I have Smithing at 5-6 right now...So lower Yughott? Which is where? o.o

Sorry, I'm still over all new to the game

And I need this cash, bad. ><

((Broke 100! w00t!))

Edited, Mon Apr 4 22:51:05 2005 by Zorrn

what is a good level to avoid aggro to mine at gusgen?