The Jobs of FFXI - A HistoryFollow

Nice work, makes me all nostalgic. They should really introduce a whip weapon type for BSTs in FFXI. Give it to SMNs too since Rydia could equip them.

Technically frog was added in FFII, as the Toad spell.

Heh, was surprised to see someone bumped this a month ago. I fixed a couple more things. Feel like an idiot for making so many mistakes with FFII since it's the one I didn't play, but thanks for the continuing help fixing them. I really thought I had edited the 10 SwdTechs to 8 waaaay back when other people pointed it out, but I guess I missed it somehow.

you forgot blu

Thief's lock picking ability first appeared in FFVI. In the world of ruin after Locke rejoins the group, goto Narshe, many of the doors are locked and Locke will open them by picking the lock

The strongest Black Magic in the first three FFs was Flare if I remember correctly.

Oh a note on Rangers in FFIV:

Rosa was actually something of a bizarre Ranger/White Mage hybrid. While she was primarily a White Mage, she also used a Bow, could equip arrows, and had the "Aim" ability that let her do pretty modest damage to enemies, assuming you didn't need her to actually heal anyone.

You had forgotten about Porom (Poram? I forget the spelling.) in FF4 as the other white mage.

If you really want to include every possiblity from FF games there is also Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest/USA. Phoebe was obviously the ranger, or at least once you got halfway through the ice cave. The main character Benjarmin could be called a Red Mage except instead of decent he excelled in everything: fighting, healing, attack magic etc.

Regardless if you could use any materia in ff7 and junction anything in ff8, they still had clearly apparent jobs.

Never mind Cecil. Poor Kain's FFXI equivalents have been shafted compared to endgame Dragoon of Doom Kain. Alas, poor Penta, we hardly knew thee...

Abel's Lance FTW. He actually has managed to one-shot the nastiest boss in the game with it on my copy of FFIV- Brachioraidos, down in the Lunar Ruins. First shot, Tornado procs. Dead superdragon. :P

Cecil's the one character I wish I could toss out of the party on occasion. Kain/Cid/Edward front line, please.

I have nothing to add. That's amazing.

Are you gonna add Blue Mage and Corsair when the expansion comes out? I'd be interested to hear were Corsair came from...

- The Weaponsmith

I plan to add Corsair, Blue Mage, and whatever else they decide to give us. However, this will only happen a while after they're released, so that I have more info on how they work.

For instance, if Chemist is added, it will get its own entry, but if they give Mix to Corsair or something, the history of both gamblers and chemists will be necessary (although this isn't something I predict will happen, just an example).

Also, I've been kind of neglecting updates to the existing information, putting them off until the major update with the new jobs. So once I add all the new jobs, I'll also fix the last few suggestions.

If some people could do more research on FFII Ultima though, that would be nice - a screenshot of the Japanese Famicom version would be most preferable.

And now I'll copy-paste what I wrote in another thread:

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History of Gamblers and Pirates in The FF Series:

Setzer (FFVI) was the first true Gambler. He had the Slot command and used cards, dice, and darts as his weapon.

Cait Sith (FFVII) was also a Gambler, with a Slot Limit Break, though he used megaphones for weapons.

Selphie is a Gambler (FFVIII). Many people overlook this since the Jobs of FF7-8 characters aren't really apparent and we have to rely on Limit Breaks and weapons (e.g. Zell & Tifa are MNK, Quistis is BLU, Aeris is WHM. Oh, and despite Tifa's Limit having slots, I would not define her as Gambler because all other slots involve getting a combination which produces an attack. She has a slot reel saying: Hit, Miss, or Yeah!, which basically notes whether she peforms that move, not at all, or does it with a critical hit). Selphie's Limit is named Slot and involves 2 variables: which spell and how many times is it cast for 0 MP (well, 0 spells consumed since FF8 lacked MP), with chances of up to 4 special attacks coming up. Slot was Luck based.

I think she was the first Luck-based Gambler, both Setzer & Cait Sith's Slots were rigged against you for certain Slot moves (see Gamefaqs FFVII Limit Breaks FAQ or Algorithm FAQ, I forget which and MasterZED's document on Setzer's Slot for all the details).

FFIX had many characters with dual Jobs and subjobs. Garnet was a SMN/WHM (she had a greater Eidolon selection and a smaller selection of White Magic), Eiko was a WHM/SMN (she only had a few Eidolons, but many Wite Magic), Amarant was MNK/NIN (MNK command, claws, but also could use Throw). Quina, I would argue is a BLU/GAM because she had 1 feature of a Gambler, her weapon dealt random damage between 1 and her STR stat. No other character's weapon had a damage formula like this.

Wakka (FFX) seems to be a RNG-Gambler combo. He can hit birds and has good accuracy with long-distance attacks, but his Limit Break involves Slots which inflict random statuses. People mentioned FFX-2's Lady Luck, which is a Gambler Job.

The ability Throw Gil, GP Rain, Spare Change, or whatever it has been called has appeared in FF5,6,7,9. Not sure about 10 & 10-2.

As for Pirates, there has been no Pirate class in FF, but many Pirates have appeared in the series, a few have joined the party, but they have all had the Bare Job or been blank states. FF1 had Bikke the Pirate, who sent his crew to fight you, you win his ship in battle. FF2 has Layla and her pirates. She attacks you, but you defeat her crew and she joins you and gives you her ship. Most FF2 characters seem Jobless, though some you can see the Jobs of (Minh- WHM, Josef- MNK, etc). Anyone can equip anything and use any spell in FF2. FF3 has Pirates, but they don't fight you, but they give you their ship if you can solve the problem of Nepto blocking access to the sea. FF3 had a job called Viking, BTW, which played a lot like FFXI's PLD, melee with very high DEF and weak STR (as opposed to Cecil's uber-PLD from FFIV). FFV had Faris and her pirates. And that's been it, though Al Bhed had some pirate characteristics, sailing the seas, but they were more nomads than pirates per se and didn't have the pirate culture or ethos.

People may hate Gambler was dressed up as a Pirate or a Pirate is just a shell for a Gambler, but hey, it could be worse. The Job could involve a Taru sitting atop a giant stuffed moogle and its weapon would be an Instrument (bugle) it would use to provoke its oversized moogle to pound the enemy. It would be like "HULK SMASH!" only in pink. And a hexagun is better than that or throwing a beachball at the enemy or wielding a giant eating utensil (nunchucks or dice, cards, and darts would have been cooler though).
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