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The Jobs of FFXI - A HistoryFollow

#77 Feb 17 2006 at 12:57 AM Rating: Decent
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The ability Throw Gil, GP Rain, Spare Change, or whatever it has been called has appeared in FF5,6,7,9. Not sure about 10 & 10-2.


unfortunately that's classicly been a samurai ability.
#78 Feb 18 2006 at 6:18 PM Rating: Good
Many of the things that zoogelio pointed out may or may not have anything to do with the Corsair job for FFXI. For instance, if they have the ability to throw coins for damage, the history of that ability is relevant, otherwise it's not.

That's why I'm waiting for the expansion to be released and for people to play it a while before updating this. I'll be keeping a close watch on the Blue Mage and Corsair forums (as well as any others that show up) for information on abilities and spells as people level further and discover them (long before I do).

Thanks for the information about Quina though zoogelio, I'll definitely add it to the notes section for Corsair. I never really used Quina, so I had no idea his/her damage was randomly generated over such a large range.
#79 Apr 17 2006 at 2:54 PM Rating: Default
Wow, what an amazingly anti-FF7 post. Sad to see the game that reinvigorated the entire franchise was completely snubbed.
#80 Apr 17 2006 at 3:03 PM Rating: Good
Genfreak wrote:
Wow, what an amazingly anti-FF7 post. Sad to see the game that reinvigorated the entire franchise was completely snubbed.

Huh?

No jobs = notes section. FFVII didn't have jobs, so its characters are in the notes section. I can't remember saying anything bad about FFVII.
#81 Apr 19 2006 at 12:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Thought I'd add something about Auron.

Auron is indeed a Samurai, first of all, the katana. But the less obvious reasons are that he keeps his left arm in his sleeve, and he keeps a bottle of sake at his right hip. In Japan, a Ronin (Samurai who has no master) would be the only people who did this.

Also, he wears the smae type of glasses Jin wears from Samurai Champloo :P
#82 Jun 22 2006 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
I finally updated with Blue Mage, Corsair, and Puppetmaster sections, though they may be a little strange. As usual, any suggestions or help will be appreciated.

I added something about FFXII in the notes section for Blue Mage, because I've been playing it recently. Hopefully I will think of how best to incorporate FFXII into the existing sections; it shouldn't be too hard considering the lack of jobs.

Edit: I also replaced the large text tags with bold and underline. Is large text only available to premium users, or was it just removed entirely?

Edited, Jun 22nd 2006 at 6:13pm EDT by Tsukinomahou
#83 Jun 22 2006 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
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One of the things I'm suprised you didn't mention was Amarant from FFIX. Although he was a bit of a mish-mosh of things, he was capable of throwing anything in your inventory at the enemy and he could use "Flair" which was a combination of both offensive and defensive abilities.

In anything he was some RDM/NIN/THF fusion. And from what I remember Freya's abilities weren't called Dragon Magic but something else, I can't think of it right now though.

EDIT: Oh and interesting thing about Quistis' Blue Magic: Yes it was pretty worthless for the most part but her last one, the one that Griever himself uses, was the second (next to Lionheart), if not first, most powerful ability in the game.

Edited, Jun 22nd 2006 at 7:53pm EDT by KPBeta
#84 Jun 22 2006 at 7:10 PM Rating: Decent
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This is cool for all the people who have NEVER played any of the other FF games..i know that seems like a shock but there are some, heck theres a few in my LS. So this can show them how their job is, and why SE put it in FFXI.
#85 Jun 22 2006 at 7:13 PM Rating: Good
KPBeta wrote:
One of the things I'm suprised you didn't mention was Amarant from FFIX. Although he was a bit of a mish-mosh of things, he was capable of throwing anything in your inventory at the enemy and he could use "Flair" which was a combination of both offensive and defensive abilities.

In anything he was some RDM/NIN/THF fusion. And from what I remember Freya's abilities weren't called Dragon Magic but something else, I can't think of it right now though.

EDIT: Oh and interesting thing about Quistis' Blue Magic: Yes it was pretty worthless for the most part but her last one, the one that Griever himself uses, was the second (next to Lionheart), if not first, most powerful ability in the game.

Edited, Jun 22nd 2006 at 7:53pm EDT by KPBeta

Actually, Amarant was more of a monk than anything else. I should add him under a main entry for FFIX under the monk job.
#86 Jun 23 2006 at 4:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Got to love this thread! ^_^ Thanks, OP! ^_^

Now, some things that popped in my mind:
-Puppetmaster: it is a job that can be found in FF4,6, i think, but not as character job, but as monster job. There are certainly monster pupeteers, with one or several puppets under their control.
Also... couldn't you call Lulu to be a Puppetmaster? She does use puppets... sort of :D

-Summoner: Wasn't Terra from FF6 an actual summoner, more than the others? After all, she could summon herself (lol this is just a joke ^_-). I think that Terra's true job would be "summoned being" more than anything else ^_-
#87 Jun 23 2006 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
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An excellent read. Thank you for compiling this information. I'm sure it will come in handy one day on Win Ben Stein's Money or something. (Is that show even on the air anymore?)

If I could just play Grammar Police for one second here, though..

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FFIV - Edward was the Bard of FFIV ... He had fallen in love with Tellah's daughter, which Tellah hated.


The way you arranged that sentence, it sounds like Tellah hated his own daughter.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2006 at 7:45am EDT by AeriaAllslove
#88 Jun 23 2006 at 6:44 AM Rating: Good
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An excellent read. Thank you for compiling this information. I'm sure it will come in handy one day on Win Ben Stien's Money or something. (Is that show even on the air anymore?)

If I could just play Grammar Police for one second here, though..

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FFIV - Edward was the Bard of FFIV ... He had fallen in love with Tellah's daughter, which Tellah hated.


The way you arranged that sentence, it sounds like Tellah hated his own daughter.
#89 Jun 23 2006 at 7:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Two details from FF2(of Dawn of Souls):

Even if there were no predetermined jobs for the 3 Main characters,
the fourth slot character usually hinted towards a specific job. The Three characters are:

Ricard/Richard - Dragoon(mentioned before)
Mindu/Minwu - White Wizard(White mage rly)
Joseph/Josef - Monk (Just for additional information, Josef's role in FF2 was told in Ramuh's story in FFIX, in order to receive a Peridot, though I don't remember if Ramuh mentioned any of their names)
#90 Jun 23 2006 at 7:34 AM Rating: Decent
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This isnt pharm

Edited, Jun 23rd 2006 at 8:47am EDT by Lumokai
#91 Jun 23 2006 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Pentapost!

Edited, Jun 23rd 2006 at 8:46am EDT by Lumokai
#92 Jun 23 2006 at 7:42 AM Rating: Decent
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sorry superpost

Edited, Jun 23rd 2006 at 8:46am EDT by Lumokai
#93 Jun 23 2006 at 7:43 AM Rating: Decent
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sorry superpost

Edited, Jun 23rd 2006 at 8:45am EDT by Lumokai
#94 Jun 23 2006 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
AeriaAllslove wrote:
If I could just play Grammar Police for one second here, though..

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FFIV - Edward was the Bard of FFIV ... He had fallen in love with Tellah's daughter, which Tellah hated.


The way you arranged that sentence, it sounds like Tellah hated his own daughter.

Technically "which" cannot refer to a person in that case, so it must refer to the situation. Admittedly, however, it does sound awkward and I'll consider a better word order.
#95 Jun 23 2006 at 6:33 PM Rating: Decent
Hmmm wouldn't you agree Lulu is a Puppetmaster of sorts with her wierd little dolls? Maybe that's totally irrelevant though. :p
#96 Jun 23 2006 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
sonicmonkeys wrote:
Hmmm wouldn't you agree Lulu is a Puppetmaster of sorts with her wierd little dolls? Maybe that's totally irrelevant though. :p

Actually, my little chart I wrote up to make sure I didn't miss anything has a small circle indicating there's a note on PUP for FFX, but I guess I forgot to include it after all.
#97 Jul 07 2006 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
Final Fantasy VII had the Blue Mage incarnated not as a character, but with the Enemy Skill materia any character with it equipped would become a BLU.

Wasn't Kimahri's overdrive similar to BLU, also?
#98 Jul 07 2006 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
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Final Fantasy VII had the Blue Mage incarnated not as a character, but with the Enemy Skill materia any character with it equipped would become a BLU.

Wasn't Kimahri's overdrive similar to BLU, also?

I mentioned both of these....
#99 Jul 08 2006 at 12:40 AM Rating: Good
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You forgot to mention how "spoony" bards used to be...ahh I love that FF, bad translations and all.

Makes me want to whip out the old games.
#100 Nov 09 2006 at 4:01 AM Rating: Good
Bumping this because, uh...FFXII just came out and maybe people have suggestions about adding stuff from that?
#101 Nov 09 2006 at 9:22 AM Rating: Default
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FFXII is anti-job actually. All charicters can use pretty much all abilities, weapons, armor, ect. What more, it encourages the player to select the same skills for many charicters (because you have only a limited ammount of money usally, so its unwise to buy all magiks/skills), so what you end up with is some sort of strange cast of red mages that uses diffrent gear.

Also i hate to break it to you, but you just re did what this guy did:
http://www.ffcompendium.com/h/jobs.shtml

Also, Reeve from FF7, the controller of cait sith, could be very likely considered the first Puppetmaster. If you do some minimul research, you'll find that cait sith itself is indeed an automation, that reeve controls. Also, there is one scene in FF7:DoC where (you dont actually see it, but you can hear it) where cait sith (the cat) beats up a deepground soldier, then when reeve and cath come out, you can see between the size proportions, that it looks very simular to a Player-Automation team. The puppetmaster configuration is also said to be heavyly inspired by the Enix Rpg Slapstick (aka roboteck).

Edited, Nov 9th 2006 at 9:25am PST by Sikekiz

Edited, Nov 9th 2006 at 9:30am PST by Sikekiz
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