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#1 Jun 10 2005 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
I wanna make a poll but I don't know how :(

In any event, In your opinion what is the hardest job to kill (in ballista)?

Pld
Whm
Nin
Rdm
Mnk

If someone can poll this, please do and kill this thread.
#2 Jun 10 2005 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
NIN THF RDM others are weak.
as for most destructive in ballista, BST by far.
#3 Jun 10 2005 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Out of those five or all the jobs?

Those jobs in order from hardest to easiest imho would be:
1. Rdm
2. Nin
3. Mnk
4. Pld
5. Whm

If you went all jobs the top 5 would be(again imho)
1. (tie) Rdm and Thf
3. Nin
4. Mnk
5. War

I could go into detail explaining this to you, but I'm tired.
#4 Jun 10 2005 at 12:50 PM Rating: Good
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RDM (Hardest)
NIN
MNK
PLD
WHM (Easiest)

But.. by far, the most effective job at killing in Ballista is BST. The 30 cap Ballista, with a TigerFamiliar jug pet makes BST a very effective killer. The reason behind this is the speed and power of the Tiger. players cannot get away from it because it moves so fast, and they have trouble killing it because of it's strength. ;)

-Pan
#5 Jun 10 2005 at 2:17 PM Rating: Default
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BalliSTAR wrote:
I wanna make a poll but I don't know how :(

In any event, In your opinion what is the hardest job to kill (in ballista)?

Pld
Whm
Nin
Rdm
Mnk

If someone can poll this, please do and kill this thread.


None of the above. They are all equally easy to kill. So is a Beastmaster. It's called Evasion and Marksmanship. Perhaps the level 70 Beastmaster who called Thief weak would like to experience it sometime.
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#6 Jun 10 2005 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
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TheBarrister Defender of Justice wrote:
BalliSTAR wrote:
I wanna make a poll but I don't know how :(

In any event, In your opinion what is the hardest job to kill (in ballista)?

Pld
Whm
Nin
Rdm
Mnk

If someone can poll this, please do and kill this thread.


None of the above. They are all equally easy to kill. So is a Beastmaster. It's called Evasion and Marksmanship. Perhaps the level 70 Beastmaster who called Thief weak would like to experience it sometime.


pst.. he said all but rdm thf and something else are weak.. not thf is weak
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#7 Jun 10 2005 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
i have never played ballista but from what i have heard mages are pretty easy due to there way of attacking it consumes time but if they get a hit theyre nasty but being based MP makes it diffacult !!
ninja's are hard due to there shadows but agaisnt a monk they would be easiely taken away!! as goes for a thiefs high evasion and the ability to flee so agaisnt a beast it would make it reasonbly hard even with a animal also there 2 hour skill perfect dodge would make it even harder !!

just say this its not what job your doing but how well you can play it which makes it hard for another job !!
#8 Jun 10 2005 at 2:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Rdm is hardest, we all know why.

Pld second if their against melee.

Whm third

Mnk fourth, unless they have whm sub, then their tied for second.

Nin is easy to kill, unless their willing to use their supplies for ballista, which I've only see a few do well. A quick diaga for the shadows, then you just hit away.
#9 Jun 10 2005 at 2:31 PM Rating: Good
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Uncpped whm/nin with kraken club will make a lot of people {Run away} (^0^)
#10 Jun 10 2005 at 2:34 PM Rating: Good
As a Taru RDM and WHM, I have died any time I've actively participated in a Ballista (meaning not just curing people on the outskirts). I would have to say RNG is pretty hard to kill, as long as they have a way to sleep or bind the opponent.
#11 Jun 10 2005 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
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Hardest job to defeat in ballista is RDM by far... no question about it, you don't come to appreciate Fast Cast until you experience it first hand, and their enfeebling magic is out of this world. Anyways i've 1 vs 1 against every job but BST, and in my experiences RDM is the hardest job to kill, basically if you can't catch'm off guard lol, u stand no chance, but we all kno the person with the best strategy "Always" wins. :)
#12 Jun 10 2005 at 2:48 PM Rating: Good
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RDM/BLM, chainspell + warp. Very hard to kill them in the couple of seconds it takes to warp.
#13 Jun 10 2005 at 2:54 PM Rating: Default
does this count a war/thf/rng with sleep bolts !? because a rdm cannot cast nothing while "ZZZZZ"
#14 Jun 10 2005 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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in uncapped i would say mnk subbed sam by far. is no way to kill them before they 1 shot you with ws -_-
#15 Jun 10 2005 at 3:06 PM Rating: Good
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Were you referring to 1vs1 or mob style?
#16 Jun 10 2005 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
Thief with cap evasion and alot of evasion gear.


edit: with cap marksmenship/sleep bolts/tonko the rdm will be snuck up on put to sleep and sneakattack "random ws" for the win.

Edited, Fri Jun 10 16:13:15 2005 by powalord
#17 Jun 10 2005 at 3:38 PM Rating: Decent
I'm a paladin and I've never tried Ballista. How are they in it? My drk friend says they're actually quite annoying. They won't die and they won't sleep. If I did, I'd wanna raise red mage as my sub for it.

Imagine it, a paladin with stoneskin and blink (phalanx if it's uncapped).

Gonna put up utsusemi to foil me? Diaga! :p

What do you think?
#18 Jun 10 2005 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
I've played ALOT of ballista.

As Rdm, BST, and BLM.

I've fought many opponents. 1 on 1 and in parties.

And the answer to my own question is simple.

It depends on the job your using to fight with.

Nin is almost impossible for me to kill with my BST, but for my Rdm, he's a chump. <== Yes I mean chump. (sorry nin's but it's true.)

Rdm, is very difficult for me to kill with BST, but for my Rdm, he's a little easier. Rdm Vs. Rdm just come's down to gear and skill. I honestly can not recall 1 time I've ever been beat by a Rdm. Last fight though wasn't really fair. 56 rdm vs me in a 60 cap.

THF, for my BST Thf is a chump. Even with shadows a thief does not stand a chance against a BST. He can't outrun the tiger, and he can't outdamage the dual axes. Most I've seen a thf do is sleep my pet and flee from me. Then I just follow him as best I can. Few sec's later my tiger come's zooming by. Then I follow the tiger, who is probably asleep again. 1 trick though is to reward your pet. like once every 2 min ><. But if your pet has Poison or Dia on him.. Thf can kiss his @zz goodbye.

For my Rdm, thief is a pain. Gravity and bind is resisted ALOT for some reason unexplained to me. But if I ever catch one which sleep, or sleepga (uncapped.) He's pretty much dead. One episode I remember is fighting Lester on the Titan server. Great theif, and last I check the score was 3 to 2 him.

PLD, is a real ballista chump for both Rdm and BST. I love to aspir the crap out of them. If I'm in a good rumble with many char's I don't attack pld. I like to keep them around for when I need MP to kill there buddies with. Generally in a rumble pld's are ignored b/c they don't do alot of damage, and they have high def. So they get slept and suck dry, then let loose.

Whm is a breeze for Rdm but a little tougher for BST.

And as far as fighting with my blm... He's only good for sleepga. Aside from that, I just grab petra, stay away from the fight and score. Good for croud control and finishing up the fleeing enemy. I get the most petra scored as a blm.
#19 Jun 10 2005 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Are you talking about what would take the longest to kill or what? Because RDM or THF or NIN are all pretty equal against something without -ga spells. But if you are talking about who would be able to survive the longest, BRD/RDM with the most damage reduction - they can get (I think its around 70, some insane number that tank jobs cant get too ._.) would last a fairly long time with phalax and stoneskin with double paeon up.
#20 Jun 10 2005 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok here is my take on the toughest job to kill in Ballista, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE LEVEL CAP! I've done a bunch of them as MNK and I have kiled almost every job except BST because I never had a chance to fight one. lv.30 cap RDM isn't so tough without phalanx and stoneskin sot hey are a push over, about the only thing they can do is debuff which certain items will get rid of anyway and once you start hitting them with a fast weapon they probably can't get many casts of. At higher levels it is another story, I've broken through stone skin very quickly as MNK in the Lv.50 cap Ballistas so it isn't the save all but Bind and nukes + enfeebles from far away suck, now I know how the mobs we fight feel and the reasons they build hate...lol.

- THF is hard to kill but it is very possible with a MNK.
- NIN is tough with shadows but a quick -ga spells takes care of that problem.
- SAM, no problem even when they bust out their 2 hour.
- RNG get owned by a fast hard hitting job, EES did about 300 damage to me then I killed the RNG...lol.
- BST, I think I could take one and his pet at the same time, but I don't know, I'd like to try it out sometime.
- WHM, Stoneskin doesn't stop a fast high damage dealer like MNK.
- BLM, they are annoying to say the least but drop easy if they can't run away.
- PLD, yes high DEF but still they don't hurt much and they die to MNKs pretty easy.
- BRD is very annoying but once you actually start hitting they get hit hard but man do they sleep you a lot.

i guess what it looks like I saying is MNK > All but thats not what I'm trying to get across, every job brings their own to Ballista and anyone knowing how to play that job can do very well in Ballista.

Ballista isn't a 1 vs. 1 thing, it is a bunch of people beating down on 1 person most times. I've been killed by 8 people and I've been killed by one person so it isn't what most people expect "PvP" to be. The most important thing in Ballista is to have fun, make some new friends and always show people what your class can do =)
#21 Jun 10 2005 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
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What abot drg! Hasnt anyone even fought against one?! Drgs are difficult even more if wyverns out. I was a a team that had mostly mages and 1 rng and of course me the drg. I was insanely hard to kill. I had 2 monk wailing on me, killed one ofther went crazy did raging fists low hp I berserked penta'd for a instant death (700). I threw a hi-elixer on me and i was ready. Drgs are good in ballista and with sub of whm they rival a rdm. Bsts are very good in ballista... if thier beast isnt dead. Super jump is good during a 2 hr. A spell too (foolish blm with freeze hehehehe) I was top scorer, but drgs are so rare in ballista Im not really surprised to much.
#22 Jun 10 2005 at 5:11 PM Rating: Decent
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From personal experience I can say that DRG won't be in the top 5 of hardest to kill. Once the Wyvern is killed, which isnlt a tough task, you have very little to keep yourself alive over these other jobs.
#23 Jun 10 2005 at 5:11 PM Rating: Decent
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DRGs are some crazy scary Taru hunters. Jump->High Jump->Super Jump->Pop goes the taru! From what I've seen they seem to be pretty similar to monks, a little slower hitting but hits are a bit harder, and you can't always run away. On the flip side they suffer from the same problems any non-mage non-marksmanship job (zzZZZzz).

I'd say a smart RDM is going to be about the hardest to kill at most levels, though I'm a bit biased. Still, its hard to argue when we can get shadows, strip shadows, play the sleep arrow game, and get some serious damage reduction/regen/healing going.
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#25 Jun 10 2005 at 5:20 PM Rating: Decent
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With wyvern its insanely hard to beat unless you get smart and attack it instead of me, but i just spirt link and cast dia on him, no shadows, I get 150 hp, cele is full hp. Also when Im in trouble and about to die I spirt link I have normally 100 hp left and dismiss. I die, come back, 2Hr and go kill more. Dont sub nin if theres a drg/whm, dia kills shadows and heals me. A rdm could still beat me hands down. Even weapon less.
#26 Jun 10 2005 at 5:23 PM Rating: Decent
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