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#1 Jul 20 2005 at 8:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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Original post follows, but I wanted to keep a list of the luck runes for sure on this thread as well.

[li]~~Confirmed Rune Locations:~~


-> Qufim Island, on the way out to behemoth's dominion.

-> Lufaise Meadows, shortly after you zone from the swirling vortex (from valkurm), head towards the safehold, it is in the first "canyon" area you pass through.

-> Xarcabard, Head up to J-7, there is a tunnel heading east at the southern end of the square. Follow it around to the end, you will end up in J-8, there is a rune at the end.

-> Tahrongi Canyon, Around H-10, in the center of the complex region at the bottom of the map.

-> Yuhtunga Jungle, drop down the hole on the way to yhoator from kazham.

-> Pashhow Marshlands, K-7. Head up behind the outpost, it is in the first "large" area back there.

-> Beaucedine Glacier, H-7 on the ledge above the tower that is in I-7.

-> Batallia Downs,The entrance is at the top center of F-7, goes NE into the bunker.

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[li]~~Confirmed Directions With Locations:~~
[li]North: Tahrongi Canyon.
[li]South: Yuhtunga Jungle.
[li]West: Pashhow Marshlands.
[li]Northwest: Batallia Downs.
[li]North/Northwest: Beaucedine Glacier
[li]West/Northwest: Lufaise meadows.
[li]Far Northwest: Qufim Island.
[li]A great distance Northwest: Xarcabard

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In addition, drifftx has added a supplement for information regarding fortunes: Fortunes Read: A Supplement to The Fortunate Mystery

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TwilightVigil has supplied the title changing NPC reference:

Title Changing NPCs
Bastok Port - Tuh Almobankha (I-7)
Lower Jeuno - Tuh Almobankha (I-8)
Kazham - Eron-Tomaron (G-7)
Norg - Quntsu-Nointsu G-7
Mhaura - Willah Maratahya (I-8)
Rabao - Shupah Mujuuk (G-8)
San d'Oria South - Moozo-Koozo (K-6)
Selbina - Yulon-Polon (I-9)
Windurst Walls - Burute-Sorute (H-10)

Each NPC generally has the titles for quests related to the city they're in. The Amount of Gil you Pay reflects the Fame level requirement of the Quest. For example, with Burute-Sorute, 100 Gil I could get Crawler Culler. 500 I can get Heir of the New Moon.
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Thank you ALL for your contributions, keep up the great work! :) When we are finished, I will compile all of the information into a comprehensive guide.


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Like my pun? I know you don't. :D

So anyway... that new fortune teller NPC that SE decided to add in mhaura. I went to check it out.

Here is what she said to me:

"Your lucky color is purple, an electric, dazzling shade.
Your fortune lies to the West.
As for your perfect partner... you should seek one who's title is 'Daybreak Gambler'."

So... cryptic as it is, it got worse when I clicked her again.

"Forgotten your fortune already?
Your color is purple, your fortune lies to the west. Seek a partner with the title 'Daybreak Gambler'.
Here is one more piece of wisdom to aid you in your search.
The balance distinguishes not between lead and gold."

That may not be verbatim, but it is almost exact.

So that was nice and confusing, but I drew up an idea to what it might be referring, and set my plan in motion.
I looked directly west and saw the outer horototo ruins as one of the locations in that direction. I happened to know that inside was a strange apparatus, and that particular machine ran on the purple chip, lightning. Purple.... west... seemed to fight. Lead and gold... sounded like chance to me. Good and bad, you know... lightning cluster or rune weapon. So I gathered up a friend to change her title and come with me, so she did.

Before we left, she checked her fortune.

Blue.
Northwest.
Steaming Sheep Regular.
The hippogryph has fair feathers but foul feet.

Those were her variables.

I thought that perhaps I had been right afterall, because crawler's nest was almost exactly northwest of there, and it housed the water machine, which needed a blue chip. It seemed right.

So... yea...

We set out.

I decided to get a gold ingot and a gold ore to try different trading combinations, incase it was more literal than I thought.
I tried everything. Nothing changed, nothing new, nothing at all.

So I got another friend to get his fortune.

Blue.
North-Northwest.
Vampire hunter D-minus.
The hippogryph has fair feathers and foul feet.

Those were his variables.

Now I have to admit, I was very stumped at this point.

I spent the better part of the day attempting to figure this out, but came to no solid conclusion.

The fact that SE deliberately put this in the game means something. The fact that they give you a specific title for another person means something. The fact that not every variable changes at once means something.... I just don't know what.

I was desperatly trying to figure it out... but now I come to the forum for help. Anyone have any clue, anything? Can any of you post your fortunes exactly, to help distinguish a pattern? I would really like to figure out what in the world this means.

By the way, I tried changing my title, waiting for the day change, a lot of things... nothing altered my fortune once it was given to me.

Any info would be appreciated. Thank you~



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#2 Jul 20 2005 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
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Each of the titles it gives you is the one given from a particular quest. In your case, it's one given in San D'oria for the map of King Ranperre's Tomb from Aurege at F-3 in North San D'Oria. Have you tried talking to him?
#3 Jul 20 2005 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
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Rate up for your detective work. I'll be watching this thread for your progress. Good luck!

When I read your clue about the lead and gold the 1st thing that came to mind for me was Alchemy, since historically the purpose of it was to find a way to turn lead into gold. Maybe your partner is also an Alchemist?
No clue about the Hyppogryph clue. I'll think about that.
#4 Jul 20 2005 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
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That's interesting. Your theory makes perfect sense.

Maybe this is what the password function on those strange apparatus things is for. Hope somebody figures the rest of this little puzzle out soon.

Did you try trading the corresponding chip to the apparatus?

Also theres two Hippogryph items that may tie into this somehow, feather and tailfeather.
I can't get on right now, but I'll be sure to try it for myself when I can.
#5 Jul 20 2005 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
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This sounds like crafting advice to me.

Fortune to the west = face west
Your color = your crystal

Not sure about the specific title requested...perhaps something to do with the place or npc which gave that title?

The last parts suggest a specific craft - "distinguishes not between lead and gold" = Smithing?
"The Hyppogryph has fair feathers but foul feet" - ...well, I guess clothcrafting maybe.

Other possiblities - the lead and gold thing might be a reference to Bastok, which is the only city with both smithing guilds. But what "the balance" means...hmm. All I can think of is that elevator in Metalworks :P

Fair feathers but foul feet suggests a muddy or watery place. Windurst is very watery. Actually, sounds more like Giddeus - feathers = yagudo.
#6 Jul 20 2005 at 9:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yea, I thought of the quests too.

'Daybreak gambler' Came from 'exit the gambler' in sandy. I have not tried talking to any of those NPCs, as I didn't think they would reference the title if they were talking about the quest npcs. I just had her change title in sandy.

'Steaming sheep regular' comes from a pair of quest (pre req then quest) in bastok. I had not done these quests yet, so the title wasn't available to me. We were going to try having me as her partner and her as mine, with titles changed accordingly.

'Vampire hunter D-minus' was the same deal, Came from the warding vampires quest in sandy that I actually had not ever bothered to do.

I hadn't put much more thought into that.

It really is driving me nuts though. They deliberately added this, which means there is something there. My friends and I thought of a great many things... questing... constellations... directional facing with personalized results... we just don't know. The fact that some is figurative, and some is literal is making me really think. When they said hippogryph, I thought of, obviously, riverne... then the feather... then the (what I assume to be) griffons on the sandy flag... then CoP... then lufaise, and tavnazia... then I thought northwest...

Gah, it's so confusing.

The fact, also, that one friend got "Northwest" while another got "North-northwest" (and the fact that nothing about this changes) yet they BOTH got "blue" and the hippogryph clue makes me think it's not referring to one certain thing.

The most interesting thing to me is that if it IS referencing crafting, and each person has a different ideal way to go about it... then it could revolutionize the crafting world, and would really explain why it's been so hard to pin down a standard for best chance at HQs.

In addition to all this... what would your "ideal partner" be ideal for? NM drop luck? Crafting if you are paired? Getting a quest to initiate somewhere? I just don't understand. It will take some time to decode.

I want to get some more people's fortunes to see if I can get a pattern out of it. Any would help.


Edited, Wed Jul 20 10:19:39 2005 by AmanoJ
#7 Jul 20 2005 at 9:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Bah.. knew I shouldnt of read this.
Now when I get on I'm gonna go find this lady find out my fortune and figure out my lil riddle. I'll repost my fortune when/if I get on (can't atm ddos attacks I think). Hopefully SE put this here for a reason other than to drive us crazy "haha silly people will think this has reason when there is none haha" ugh.!
#8 Jul 20 2005 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
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If you know someone who plays on the JP version and is fluent in English and Japanese you could ask you to translate their fortune and post it here. If the quest was written in Japanese and then translated into English slight variations in wording might be a clue to help us figure this out.
#9 Jul 20 2005 at 9:43 AM Rating: Good
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I like the "towns" theory. Althought I'm not sure how the partner's title fits in.

For you, Bastok is west, and home of the various guilds that could be referred to by your lead/gold clue.

San d'Oria is Northwest (with another North in there, if you're facing the right way...) and the symbol is the Hippogryph.

Then again, it could have to do with all these things, and it's a long riddle/quest of sorts.

Ok, mostly I'm just posting here so I can track the clues others leave....
#10 Jul 20 2005 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
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The fact that SE released in this patch the ability to easily change your title seems to tie in with this... I wondered why they would spend that kind of effort on something that seemed trivial to me.
#11 Jul 20 2005 at 10:08 AM Rating: Decent
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riddles...i love riddles. Here is my take at it:


1. Purple/Blue
Oviously a reference to the Colors used for the elements. Note the '..an electric, dazzling shade', lightning and Blue is obviously Water.

Reference crystal/day/weather


2. West/Northwest
According to the Starmap and the crafting directions, west is Water (Northwest is Fire).

Lightning dominates Water.
Water dominates Fire


3. Daybreak Gambler
Honestly, this is beyond my comprehension. Maybe talk to the quest giver and see what he says (i doubt that though). Sorry, no ideas yet.


4. The balance distinguishes not between lead and gold
The hippogryph has fair feathers but foul feet

I read this as a clue to opposing elements/abilities. Lead <> Gold is pretty obvious. Feathers <> Feet, the hippogryph flies really good but walking ain't his strength.


If you look at 1 and 2 and the clue in 4. it is pretty obvious what she is trying to say. It is definately a clue to the directions and opposing elements.

Now what can all of this mean?

1. Crafting advice or hint - very possible and it tells you that you have to face the direction your crystal is strong against. I am still holding up my theory that every guild has an element and it does not matter what crystal you use.
Can the OP tell me what guild he currently is enlisted to for GP?

2. Strange aparatus - There have been rumors that those are revealed in one of the ZM missions. Not so sure if this refers to them. Possible though.

3. SE is just bursting our bubbles and confirming the directional elemntal relations.


Those are all repeatable quests? Vampire Hunter D-Minus is one. Maybe you have to do the quest on a specific day and your reward is something else (very unlikely as then the direction does not mean anything). I cant make heads or tails of it....i concede



Muadib
#12 Jul 20 2005 at 10:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Small correction

Fire is Northeast

Lead to Gold is almost certianly referenceing alchemy and the philosophers stone

hey if you feel like burning some gil try buying one of the things and trading it to the apparatus ^~
#13 Jul 20 2005 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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OK, a couple of things here, these actually helped me learn a great deal.

First of all, with my main character, Amanojyaku, I tried changing title, that didn't alter the fortune. I tried changing job (and likewise, level) and equipment, etc, that did not alter it. So it would seem the fortune you are given is entirely character based, and has nothing to do with your actual variables.

Secondly, I had another friend try it. He got:

Blue.
Northwest.
First rate organizer.
Hippogryph clue.

Third... I logged in my mule, and went to try it. He was a 29mnk, elvaan, from sandoria. His helped me a great deal.

Pale Blue.
A great distance northwest.
Tearjerker.
"Even the best parties must end."

So.... this helps in the following ways:

The directions we were given were not for facing, this time she said specifically "a great distance" so we can say without a doubt it is referring to an actual literal location.

Since there are obviously degrees of distance, saying Northwest, West, or North-northwest can be interpreted as close, relatively. That cuts down on a lot of wondering.

In addition, the final bit I now believe to be a philosophy more than anything. I racked my brain on the hints given and could only come back to the idea that it was a philosophy again and again. Since my monk got something that is more literal than the other 2, I would assume these are "words to live by" instead of a clue pertaining to whatever she is hinting at.

"The balance distinguishes not between lead and gold."

-Simply put, we distinguish the value. Both are metal, both exist and have weight, we put value on it. Learn to look at all things equally.

"The hippogryph has fair feathers but foul feet."

-Nothing, nobody is perfect. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

"Even the best parties must end."

-Easy enough, right? You can't always get what you want. Again, nothing is perfect, live and let live.

I think this has helped me more than anything else. I may try to log in my roomie's character and get another hint, but for now I am going to mark off anything that might be relatively close or far from me in the indicated direction.

If anyone else can please post their fortune, it would help. I really want to figure this out. Since I believe she is referring to something literal, instead of metaphoric, I want to know what it is.

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The fact that SE released in this patch the ability to easily change your title seems to tie in with this... I wondered why they would spend that kind of effort on something that seemed trivial to me.


Agreed, completely.

This is what led me to the whole thing to begin with, to be honest. When I saw that there was a fortune teller, and there was something to do with your title, as WELL AS updates to the title system, I knew something was up.



Edited, Wed Jul 20 11:30:25 2005 by AmanoJ
#14 Jul 20 2005 at 10:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry to disagree but Northeast is Light. Northwest is Fire.

Ok, now with that distance thrown in it does change things a bit. Are the quests for that title somewhat located in that direction?

I am still at work but i will post my Fortune once i get on in about 2h.



Muadib





Edited, Wed Jul 20 11:32:45 2005 by PaulAtreides
#15 Jul 20 2005 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Oh, and pensive, I did actually.

I bought 3 core and 3 chips initially to trade, as well as an 80k gold ingot, and 20k gold ore. I ended up with 8 cermet chunks, and 2 lightning clusters. It accepted no combination of anything else in any way whatsoever, nor did it hint at any hidden combo, or identification number. I ruled this out for now.

#16 Jul 20 2005 at 10:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think I might have an idea about this.

While wandering to Behemoth's Dominion just to search for new ??? or Notorious Monsters I stumbled across a target which said "Luck Rune". This certainly sounds related to fortunes to me. I have a feeling that lots of different areas have these luck rune type targets in them,, and perhaps you have to click the one corresponding to your directino. Explore Horutoto a bit and see if you can find one. BTW the one I found was in Qufim in the tunnel leading into Behemoth's Dominion.
#17 Jul 20 2005 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
The balance distinguishes not between lead and gold


Alchemy Item: Philosopher's Stone

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=3466
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Edited, Thu Jul 21 10:51:23 2005 by ChrisMast
#19 Jul 20 2005 at 10:35 AM Rating: Good
/ma "Haste" <work>
Of course by the time I finished my post 5 others posted with infomration.

The luck rune sounds very promising. Can anyone confirm if it's just a spot (like the ??? ones) or is there a new image on the terrain that identifies it?

Given your findings Amanoj I'm thinking that this isn't about the strange apparati.

Edited, Wed Jul 20 11:51:04 2005 by Unholyllama
#20 Jul 20 2005 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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I know I know. Take a person with that title with you and seek out the appropriate rune.
#21 Jul 20 2005 at 10:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Whoever found that Luck Rune may be on to something.

****THIS IS SPECULATION****
But, did anyone else see the virtue thing in the update?
When it is equipped, new update weapons will sometimes attack twice.
Fortune teller ---> Luck Rune ------> Virtue?

Just tossing out ideas, this is not tested, not verified, not anything, just making connections that MAY exist.


UPDATE: Scratch this.
In the item update, it appears virtues are dropped by Lumorians, so they prolly have nothing at all to do with any of the Luck Runes or the Fortune telling.

Edited, Wed Jul 20 12:21:59 2005 by buteo
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#22 Jul 20 2005 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
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That's awesome divisortheory!
Great find! When I get my fortune told I'll try to track down a rune at my location/direction.
#23 Jul 20 2005 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
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First of all, rate up for everyone. Great thread.

Looks like we are onto something. If this in fact involves a quest you have to Duo with a friend finding that luck rune than maybe the last hint is a reference to the jobs you should use.

Before you think i am nuts look at the basic stat for your job and the rings increasing that stat. Every attribute has an element.

STR = Fire
AGI = Wind

You have to find a partner with a specific title, why not also with a specific job?

Just another though.


Muadib

#24 Jul 20 2005 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
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If the direction refers to where the luck rune is, then perhaps the color refers to which day you should examine the rune on.
#25 Jul 20 2005 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Or perhaps having to trade somethign to the luck rune. Maybe a colored chip, a cluster, or a crystal.
#26 Jul 20 2005 at 11:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Quote:
The balance distinguishes not between lead and gold.


A gram of gold has exactly the same number of electrons, protons and neutrons as a gram of lead. When you hold a gold coin in your hand you are in essence holding the same exact substance as an equal amount of lead, the only difference is how the individual particles work together.

Compare this to a XP party, the same bad party could be the same good party, the only difference being the dynamics of how they work together.

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The hippogryph has fair feathers but foul feet.


This perhaps could read "The Peacock has fair feathers but foul feet." It is a antique proverb meaning "Nothing is beautiful from every angle." The symbol for San D is indeed the hippograph. San D has much beauty within its walls, yet a sewer lies beneath.
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