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#327 Jul 27 2005 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I dont think its based on Mog house element. My Mog house is : 'faintly aglow with water energy kupo!' and i got the color Black from the npc at mhaura.

I think its related to the gear related element you have on you when you touch the lucky runes. So the higher you have in this based element, better it is. But like someone said, song from brd seems not working. Thats why i think its only gear elemental bonus. Try to equip only the elemental the npc ask you.
#328 Jul 27 2005 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
Last night I tried to check my rune again (Xacabard).

The first time I went there (about a week ago) I got 1 crystal on Fireday while it was snowing.

I tried last night on a couple of days (didn't have much time) and also under snowy conditions (My color was Ice). I was only able to try on Lightday and Darkday. Nothing. I tried trading a piece of parchment to it, again nothing.

3 things I'm curious about

Has anyone tried finding a partner who has NOT changed their title via a titlechanger? If so did you check the rune with this person?

Has anyone been able to get a 2nd fortune or any OTHER information from Emila yet? We all know the 2nd time you talk to her she gives you the "words of wisdom"; however has she said anything different to anyone?

Had anyone got a "lucky color" whos zone does not have a weather effect that corrisponds to that color? (like Pale Blue [ice] with West [Marshlands] or North [Canyon])

#329 Jul 27 2005 at 10:23 AM Rating: Good
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unholyllama wrote:
Had anyone got a "lucky color" whos zone does not have a weather effect that corrisponds to that color? (like Pale Blue [ice] with West [Marshlands] or North [Canyon])


I received Green/Wind as my color while the location of my luck rune lies West/Pashow Marshlands(Lighting, Water).


Reading through the Azimuth Circle event, I am wondering if the places you have to go to are the Luck Runes. You also have to have a Partner for this quest. I wonder if the fortune is telling you how to get the +1 items from this event. Just speculation, but it is interesting how many details may overlap.
#330 Jul 27 2005 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
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Reading through the Azimuth Circle event, I am wondering if the places you have to go to are the Luck Runes. You also have to have a Partner for this quest. I wonder if the fortune is telling you how to get the +1 items from this event. Just speculation, but it is interesting how many details may overlap.


True however lets hold off on this a bit until we can get some more information (actually start) the Azimuth Circle event. We really don't want to go off on another tangent like we about did with the Strange Apparati last week.

They are similar yes but if they are truly linked is too questionable at this time (IMO).
#331 Jul 27 2005 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Just out of curiosity, what else in FFXI has to do with the number 8?


8 Elements.
8 Avatars.
8 Constellations.
8 Named Stars.
8 Guilds.
8 Days of the Week.
8 Weather Patterns.
8 Phases of the Moon.

Each element corresponds with a stat.

Fire = Strength
Earth = Vitality
Lightening = Dexterity
Wind = Agility
Ice = Intelligence
Water = Mind
Light = Charisma

You'll notice Dark does not have a stat. This is not unintended, I believe.

In artistic color theory, White reflects visible light, and therefore is considered to be devoid of color. Black, however, absorbs all color in the spectrum, and is therefore considered to be an amalgamation of all color.

White and Black reflect this in the game. This can be seen via AF coloring (see below) as well as in two high level rings, the Light Ring and the Dark Ring. The Light Ring offers only a bonus to HP and Charisma, and actually substracts from your stats that correspond to color. The Dark Ring adds bonuses to all of your color stats, including CHR, and MP. This can be viewed as an example of Light reflecting away color and Dark absorbing color.

Also note that there is a direct elemental correspondance between job class, their strengths, and their AF color.

Warrior - Strength/Fire - Red AF
Thief - Evasion/Wind - Green AF
Monk - Vitality/Earth - Yellow AF
Dragoon - Accuracy/Lightening - Purple AF
Beastmaster - Charisma/Light - White AF

As mentioned above White reflects color, while Black absorbs color. In this way, one can see the correlation of color between Paladin and white, reflective armor as well as the black armor of a Dark Knight, the kings of absorbtion.

While all the mages take their color from their namesake, they also have color for more specific reasons. It can be stated that a WHM is White because they do not use color/elemental magic, and a BLM is Black because they are the amalgamation of the elements/colors in the spectrum. Red Mages may be considered red because their original intended purpose to melee via swords/sword magic - showing a further correlation between Red/Strength/Attack.

Ninja wear black AF for the same reason a BLM is black - their key designed strength, Ton Ninjutus, makes them an amalgamation of color.

Certain armor only have hints of color. Samurai have hints of Yellow in their AF, which alludes to their intended purpose of tanking/support tanking. Ranger have hints of Green, which corresponds to their reliance upon Agility for Ranged Accuracy.

As for Bard I cannot say. Bards pure brown AF may be simply because of their style of play. Perhaps they are considered to be non-elemental? This would certainly correspond to the Brown in the RNG AF - in so far as being a non-elemantal DD as opposed to an elemental BLM DD.

And I'm just completely stumped on SMN AF.

However, this is all the info I have on the correlation between the number 8, color, and the game. I hope this can be of help to you all in some way.

Edited, Wed Jul 27 13:40:47 2005 by GrayHavens
#332 Jul 27 2005 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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It seems to me that a crystal is not the intended reward for a quest, especially one that seems to require another person as well as travel. So, it seems logical that all the things that 'work' either are not enough or are simply not factors. I don't mean to be a downer, but as I am not able to play the game for awhile, I cannot give any theories.
#333 Jul 27 2005 at 4:23 PM Rating: Default
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Reading through the Azimuth Circle event, I am wondering if the places you have to go to are the Luck Runes. You also have to have a Partner for this quest. I wonder if the fortune is telling you how to get the +1 items from this event. Just speculation, but it is interesting how many details may overlap.



True however lets hold off on this a bit until we can get some more information (actually start) the Azimuth Circle event. We really don't want to go off on another tangent like we about did with the Strange Apparati last week.

They are similar yes but if they are truly linked is too questionable at this time (IMO).


Are you F%&*^ING SERIOUS? Did you even read the description of the Azimuth Event? It ALMOST EXACTLY DESCRIBES WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN DOING WITH THE RUNES FOR A WEEK. If the runes / fortunes aren't for the Azimuth Event I'll eat both of my Sniper's rings. Jeez.
#334 Jul 27 2005 at 5:05 PM Rating: Good
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drifftx wrote:

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Just out of curiosity, what else in FFXI has to do with the number 8?



8 Elements.
8 Avatars.
8 Constellations.
8 Named Stars.
8 Guilds.
8 Days of the Week.
8 Weather Patterns.
8 Phases of the Moon.


8 Race/Gender Choices(Galka, Mithra, Taru M & F, Hume M & F, Elvaan M & F)
#335 Jul 27 2005 at 5:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Darkrobert wrote:

Are you F%&*^ING SERIOUS? Did you even read the description of the Azimuth Event? It ALMOST EXACTLY DESCRIBES WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN DOING WITH THE RUNES FOR A WEEK. If the runes / fortunes aren't for the Azimuth Event I'll eat both of my Sniper's rings. Jeez.


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#336 Jul 27 2005 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's a thought. Parter with someone who is the same race but opposite sex, with the title needed.

Sym
#337 Jul 27 2005 at 5:58 PM Rating: Good
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The circle event sounded, to me, entirely confined within a city.... not the entirety of vana'diel.

#338 Aug 02 2005 at 3:30 AM Rating: Good
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As suspected, nothing to do with Azimuth circle.

However, after all this time, the luck rune has not reset.

This leads me to believe there is a step that comes after checking the luck rune. There has to be something to it, I refuse to believe SE stuck in this quest to get us to figure it all out... for 1-3 crystals, once in our game life.

Something else is up...
#339 Aug 02 2005 at 4:32 AM Rating: Excellent
K I relize that the proverbs have probably been figured out but since theres still a bunch of speculation in general I thought Id throw out my 2gil for the hell of it. (now I didnt get a chance to read all 7 pages because its an ungodly hour of the night here so feel free to correct me if this sounds totally wrong)

I was thinking that the proverbs might ALSO have to do with location somehow (speculation: this may tie in with the idea that you need to go to more then one luck rune to complete the quest) for example:

"Even the best parties must end." = Xarcabard

I thought of this because if your rank 5+ you should remember the cut scenes *minor spoiler if a 5 second cut scene is a big deal o.O* in Xarcabard where the party made up of people from each nation was sent to set the seal and that one guy killed the other and ended up killing that girl at the same time, eh just seemed to apply - Im not good at describing stuff - if you've seen the scenes you might get what im saying =/

I admit its a stretch but thats the point of threads like this right - to get our ideas out there so they can either become more or be disproven^^.

Edit: I cant spell -.-

Edited, Tue Aug 2 06:24:20 2005 by Pandorra
#340 Aug 02 2005 at 5:01 AM Rating: Good
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Are you F%&*^ING SERIOUS? Did you even read the description of the Azimuth Event? It ALMOST EXACTLY DESCRIBES WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN DOING WITH THE RUNES FOR A WEEK. If the runes / fortunes aren't for the Azimuth Event I'll eat both of my Sniper's rings. Jeez.

tossing them will suit it better since you cant eat snipers... screen shot plz :D (Just kidding)
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Here's a thought. Parter with someone who is the same race but opposite sex, with the title needed.

so what would galka n mithra do?

im bored, and have nothing else to add. im stuck on this just like everyone else
#341 Aug 02 2005 at 9:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Hmmm... I was thinking, those NPC's that tell you if your partner, when your duoing will bring you good fortune or not may have something to do with it?

There's one of them in Port Windurst, I believe his name is, Pherchabalet. Maybe it is nothing, but possibly it could be?
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#342 Aug 02 2005 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
just went and got my info.

67thf/nin mogenhancment: water hume sandoria

yellow, north, and "trader of mysteries"

to love a person you must love their faults

i dont even know what quest that is, so if anyone could tell me... and to the north of me is Maze of Shakarami and Attohwa Chasm which are possible apparatus places.

Edited, Tue Aug 2 14:09:56 2005 by EjibooLeviathan
#343 Aug 02 2005 at 1:05 PM Rating: Good
2Weeks and still can't get anything new from Emila nor my rune. I have examined all other runes solo and get the "Nothing out of the ordinary" message.

I am going to start seeking a person with the title I need. There's got to be something more to this than crystals and a never reseting single fortune.
#344 Aug 02 2005 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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But like someone said, song from brd seems not working. Thats why i think its only gear elemental bonus. Try to equip only the elemental the npc ask you.


OR elemental resistance actually has nothing to do with this quest.

Let's think about it. Would SE make a quest that required you to purchase a bunch of gear just for the elemental resistance? Would they force us to pt with a high level WHM or BRD for carol and bar-? I very much doubt it.

The fortune mentions elements. It is easy to get carried away with the significance of that. Take the person who thinks AF colors are all related to a job's stat, and notice how he glosses over RDM (strength? sorry, try again), SMN, and BRD and is iffy on DRK, SAM, and NIN as well.

In this game, elements are tied to everything because Vanadiel is made of those 8 elements. But just because something has an alignment does not mean that other things with the same alignment will have any effect on it.

I think it was worth trying, but with stories of people buffing to the wrong element, or not buffing and having the same result, I think we can consider that perhaps elemental resistance has nothing to do with this.
#345 Aug 02 2005 at 2:01 PM Rating: Good
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Elemental resistance from *buffs* doesn't affect it. Neither bars nor carols. So no worries about dragging along WHMs or BRDs. Pretty sure it's just equipment, though I agree it seems terribly pointless for a once-a-char-lifetime reward of a few crystals.
#346 Aug 02 2005 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm gonna state something that may seem totally unrelated, but lets review the format of the fortune, breaking it down into a numbered list in order of how you receive your fortune:

1. Color - seems associated with Element, and the resistance to that element.
2. Direction - seems related to the general direction of the Luck Rune.
3. Perfect Partner - title granted from a quest that your perfect partner should have. What the partner is for is still unknown.
4. (Only received after talking to Emila a second time.) Wisdom quote.


Step 1 - equip items that will give you resistance to your color/element.

Step 2 - locate the Luck Rune which is in the direction you were given. You receive Crystals of your color/element from the luck rune.

Step 3 - Locate your perfect partner and...

Step 4 - Wisdom quote...

It would appear that the next Chronological step in this mystery would be to find the Perfect Partner.


What can you do with a Crystal and a Perfect Partner? Perhaps the wisdom quote is supposed to guide you to something you have to do with the crystal(s) you received from the Luck Rune.

Has anyone tried trading the crystal to the NPC that grants the title of your perfect partner?

Who is the Perfect Partner? A PC? NPC? Possibly(really stretching it here) Yourself?

Why do you only obtain the Wisdom Quote when you talk to Emila more than once?

Why does the Color directly relate to the Wisdom Quote?

What else can the Wisdom Quote be related to? I like the idea of cut scene relation, such as "Even the best party comes to an end" relating to the Rank 5 cutscene in Xarcabard.


I'm out of ideas for now. I apologize if I have rehashed what has been mentioned already, but I'm just trying to piece it all together. Maybe if the right questions are asked, it will spark an idea or two from others.

Keep trying!



#347 Aug 04 2005 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Demokai wrote:
So if anyone has actually tried to simply examine the Lucky Rune with the right partner and title on the partner on the day of the same color as in the fortune in the right zone, i'd like to know the results. ^^


I just went on my day (earth/yellow) to the correct rune (Tahrongi/north) with a partner with the correct title, and got "You think your lucky color might bring you fortune" or w/e, when I clicked the rune. No crystals, despite casting barstonra and stoneskin. I did not have any stone protection equipment on, and the elements I did have protection for didn't exceed 2. I waited for earth weather but got wind instead. I waited for the wind to die down and for the day to change to water, and got the same message.

I'll try going back with actual earth resistance equipment and see what happens.

edit: went back with same partner but wearing +37 earth gear. Went on ice day (didn't feel like waiting) and got 1 crystal. =p

Edited, Fri Aug 5 03:59:10 2005 by Vashkoda
#348 Aug 04 2005 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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drifftx wrote:
I'm gonna state something that may seem totally unrelated, but lets review the format of the fortune, breaking it down into a numbered list in order of how you receive your fortune:

1. Color - seems associated with Element, and the resistance to that element.
2. Direction - seems related to the general direction of the Luck Rune.
3. Perfect Partner - title granted from a quest that your perfect partner should have. What the partner is for is still unknown.
4. (Only received after talking to Emila a second time.) Wisdom quote.


Step 1 - equip items that will give you resistance to your color/element.

Step 2 - locate the Luck Rune which is in the direction you were given. You receive Crystals of your color/element from the luck rune.

Step 3 - Locate your perfect partner and...

Step 4 - Wisdom quote...

It would appear that the next Chronological step in this mystery would be to find the Perfect Partner.


What can you do with a Crystal and a Perfect Partner? Perhaps the wisdom quote is supposed to guide you to something you have to do with the crystal(s) you received from the Luck Rune.

Has anyone tried trading the crystal to the NPC that grants the title of your perfect partner?

Who is the Perfect Partner? A PC? NPC? Possibly(really stretching it here) Yourself?

Why do you only obtain the Wisdom Quote when you talk to Emila more than once?

Why does the Color directly relate to the Wisdom Quote?

What else can the Wisdom Quote be related to? I like the idea of cut scene relation, such as "Even the best party comes to an end" relating to the Rank 5 cutscene in Xarcabard.


I'm out of ideas for now. I apologize if I have rehashed what has been mentioned already, but I'm just trying to piece it all together. Maybe if the right questions are asked, it will spark an idea or two from others.

Keep trying!


I have to agree here. It seems it's step 3 that everyone is stuck on. We don't know what to do with our perfect partner. From the entire thread, it looks like the partner has no bearing on the results of what happens with the Luck Rune.

I'm not so sure the quote is just meaningless since it's linked to an elemental color and she doesn't even give you the info unless you talk to her twice. I think it just might be fluff is all. I think the key right now is what the heck do we do with our perfect partner? Has anyone gone to the Jeuno NPC Fortune Teller who is supposed to read your compatibility fortune AFTER getting the crystal from the Luck Rune? And if you have, did you complete all the previous Jeuno fortune teller quests? Maybe that's a prerequisite.

I'd like to see that poster who used the FFXITool to extract the messages from the Mhaura NPC, use it on the other Fortune Teller NPC to see if there are any clues there. I'm guess the Mhaura one just initiates this thing, and the completion of it is through a different one. I remember there being a compatibility fortune teller in Port Windy also, so I assume there is one in each town. Logically you would think this would be the next step is to have your fortune told from one of these fools with your perfect partner.

Edited, Thu Aug 4 14:21:41 2005 by jmakovec
#349 Aug 09 2005 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
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Any updated information about this quest?
#350 Aug 12 2005 at 7:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Has anyone tried taking their "perfect partner" with the correct title to the compatibility test npc in lower jueno above the AH to see if anything happens?
#351 Aug 12 2005 at 7:57 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, my roomie and I did go to the san d'orian guy. Our given fortune was... less than desireable. :P

He said something along the lines of anything we do together will turn out deadly and bad.

Not too sure that it has anything to do with the fortune teller... but I have been boiling my brain on this stuff. I can't figure any of it out.
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