MERCENARIES (in response to Sirhumpalot's thread)Follow

Well, let's hope whatever you do in between steps 1 and 7, you skip step 6. Seriously, if you spread your seed and taught kids to think like you it would be pretty sad.

How's this for an independant goal, do whatever it takes to get to step 7 quickly. Unless you're so non-conformist that you find a way to immortality.

Hey, you still haven't answered the question. Would you agree to be killed repeatedly after the party until your xp was the same as before? After all, you're not doing it for the xp. If your answer is yes, then I'm fine with the mercenery thing.

I think we would all agree that playing FFXI and spewing ******** on a forum when you could be studying to get into Harvard will slow down your progress, too.

I have not got to the point where I can actually "work towards a greater cause", yet I believe I have done the maximum for my studies up until this point.

As of now all my coursework is complete, I have free time. And this examination of ethics, morals, beliefs and understandings is truly expanding my capabilities.

Edited, Thu Sep 29 19:09:17 2005 by Hajpoj

Thanks for finally answering the question. Sort of. The thing is as with any good merc contract these conditions would be laid out before hand. In other words you're saying you would have refused this offer and not tanked just for the money.

The only problem here is that it really wasn't all about the money as the Mercenary title implies. You're really just getting paid for YOUR exp. You are like the mercenary who accepts money to rescue a hostage from a terrorist camp....but would only do it if the hostage was a family member.

Just trying to get the true picture here. I think we all have periods in the game where we want that next level. But don't feel like putting up with the party grind. It seems that the other party members paid you 20k to go through the same grind for the same exp benefits.

It's quite funny how this Righteous Moral standpoint is being taken against me.

Now I truly wonder, how many of you have ever downloaded a song/movie/piece of software/etc Illegally? And still do it?

You know that is the Equivilent of stealing? Whoops, you just broke a commandment "mister high morals".

So before any of you get "preachy" to me, and demanding "justice" or w/e?

Ask yourself, "Have you ever paid the price for your internet crimes?" Yes, piracy is a crime. You wan't to call what I did a crime? Go Ahead! Except there is no "law" against what I did.

So by you calling me amoral, is really a contradiction to your own morals.

Edited, Fri Sep 30 23:42:43 2005 by Hajpoj

Edited, Fri Sep 30 23:55:39 2005 by Hajpoj

Two things:

1. The idea of eliminating the exp was simply to prove the point that amid fervent denials of "I did not want to exp" the experience points and gaining a level was in fact a driving force in this situation.

2. I find it ironic that you are defending the OP who is perpetuating the very thing you are upset about in this game. Prices on AH go up when people see that the supply is low and decide to charge more. The OP saw that there were no tanks seeking and decided to up the ante and charge for his services.

I understand your point, Simp. But he was offered gil first,and then decided to capitalize on it. I dunno, would you have acted all pissy and left if they allowed you to die during the pt, Haj? Anyhow, he's not the reason prices are rising, he is the result of it. If they continue to go up, people will do more screwed up **** unless somehow these actions are banned in the ROC. But they'll also balance out. After all, if every tank or healer starts charging, eventually there will be too many tanks and healers to competetively price themselves. Granted, there will need to be A LOT of them before this happens, but it will, sooner or later.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with mercenary services.

A mercenary is one whom you pay to do something you cannot. This is the same as any service you would pay for in real life. For example. Do you boycott all plumbers because they charge you to fix your plumbing? It's the same concept.

I personally don't agree with charging for exp pt however, simply because you do receive your EXP as you PT.

But regardless what your service is, there's one thing that everyone else needs to understand. Merc. work isn't for everyone. Just because someone does a merc. service doesn't mean that everyone is suppossed to hire him. Nor does he expect everyone to hire him.

I personally do merc. jobs often. I like to think of myself as professional when I do them. I insure my work, and will inform whether or not I can perform special requests that some may have. I think that my prices are fair, and I am non-negotiable. HOWEVER, I WILL NOT /tell someone about my merc. service. If someone is shouting something I do often, and I feel like doing it, I will hit my merc. macro, and make sure my services are known. I then leave the rest up to the possible client.

For those that wish to hire me, I thank them, assure them, then begin business. When my services are completed, I request my payment, take them where they need to go, then move on my merry way, as they do the same.

For those what do not agree with mercenaries. I don't expect you to change your beliefs. All I ask is that you plz don't make degrading comments about those who do merc. themselves. You make them out to be bad people because they are 'helping for a fee' when those who hire will say that they are 'doing a wonderful service'. Just because your views are different doesn't make their view wrong.

Regardless, <3 vanadiel ^^ have for 4 years. will for years to come.

hojpoj your a tard hope to see you game so i can tell you to your face. çç™

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I don't disagree about merc. work and charge people for thier service. It's a common pratice in real life anyway (or in many RPGs). I just don't like it cause it makes life harsher (imagine a world where everyone including you charge people for doing any type of work).

Think of all the paid power levelers, raise chargers gil sellers ...etc they are all mercs. If you hate them then it's not strange for you to say you hate mercs. Most people do hate mercs. Mercs are never loved because they charge people with throat-cutting price whenever it is possible. They take advantage of people desperation for help. I know many people are really desperate for help on AFs, Ranks and other quests. If they can't get help (or can't organize a PT to do it) they'd be desperate enough to hire a merc to do the work and mercs do get it done if the payment is right.

Now if someone charge people for an exp PT then it;s a bit different. Of course, as a merc you should take advantage in any situation, just like a Proffessional. I'd hire you for an exp party if I feel desperate enough (ie. no tank for 1hr+, members getting bored) but I will see you not as a player who plays Paladin but as a professional who will tank upon my request. We'd be talking in business term, not 'lovely dovely'.

Since it's a bargain (a deal) I'd impose various conditions to make sure I get the service that I paid for. If you make a mistake in your deal I can charge you too. Say, if you forgot to include raise as part of the deal and you die during exp I'll certainlly charge you for a raise - no complains here cause we're talking business not 'love and friendship'.