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#52 Oct 12 2005 at 2:31 PM Rating: Good
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OMG, Maintenance. That is so F**King sweet. They picked the day that I was planning on working really late. And, when I get home I can watch the ESPN Thursday night College Football game!!

O man, KUDOS SE!!! I love you guys!



**Silly Sarcasm Off**

It is a bit odd that they chose a Jewish holiday. They could/should have thought about it, but obviously didn't.

As far as plants go, I've never lost money because of plants. Even the worst maintenance won't last more than 1 day. You miss one day inspecting plants, it barely seems to matter. Hell, I went away for a 3 day weekend incorrectly thinking I could check my plants while away. I couldn't check, but when I came back everything seemed fine. I'm not saying people don't lose money gardening, but I have not found it to be determental. With that said, I do worry about it and hope they do take that into consideration, even though I doubt it.

Edited, Wed Oct 12 15:46:19 2005 by rckytop
#53 Oct 12 2005 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
To tell u the truth i'm glad its happening.
Because ever since the last update my graphics has be ******** up here and there from the new xp ring.
and i've cant even log on mule at port jueno it dc's 1 sec after i log on there
#54 Oct 12 2005 at 2:44 PM Rating: Good
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Just maybe, they could care less what "holiday" it falls on. It was probably the best timeframe that fit "their" work schedule. I'm sure they would like to try and do it during the lowest peak time possible, but when is a good time to do maintenance without irritating players schedule? My guess is never. The time they changed the maintenance time because it fell on Labor Day, was because of a barrage of complaints about it, since it's a national holiday that is supposed to be about relaxing, playing games, and doing nothing.
#55 Oct 12 2005 at 2:53 PM Rating: Decent
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10 Saplings almost due...>.<, fingers crossed....hoping beyond hope . have lost In the past.....not again....please not again....(;.;)
#56 Oct 12 2005 at 2:54 PM Rating: Good
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/cheer on the only day I cant play this week thanks to the CAA.

Thank you SE :) Not sarcasm, but I think the point that it suits some and not others, gotta keep the servers running...

Ash

Edited, Wed Oct 12 16:04:53 2005 by witchdrash
#57 Oct 12 2005 at 2:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ya know, I used to agree that they would conduct maintenance on both NA and JP prime time. However, for the life of me I cannot think of a single instance in the past year or so outside of emergency maintenance that wasn't scheduled during NA time. This is annoying, and SE really does need to understand that there are a substantial number of clients outside of their home turf, and cater to us as well. Splitting downtime between NA and JP seems like a fair deal to me, and as of late is certainly hasn't been that way.

On another note, I agree with some of the other posters who are finding this unreasonable. We just went through a long period of unscheduled downtime, with scheduled downtime not more than 5 hours afterward. Now after all this, they schedule even more downtime. Serious lack of planning on their part, which puts their professionalism into question as well as reduces confidence in their abilities to operate a MMORPG. Perhaps they have been losing some of their more talented technicians.

Anyway, heck of a time to expose this type of behavior when the 360 launch is just around the corner, especially considering that the majority of 360 early adopters will more than likely be NA.
#58 Oct 12 2005 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
well that was well said Drakien the best post i have read today if i could give you a rate up i would.:)
#59 Oct 12 2005 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
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Lol, maybe you just don't know what you are talking about ...

SE makes a long patch like ... once every 2-3 months ? Big deal, WoW has one each weeks, which I think varies from 4 to 8 hours.

So no, on this point FFXI > WoW all the way


Because 4 hours you can plan around every tuesday morning (8am-12 usually) is so horrid.

I love FF, but I'd gladly take WoW's maintenance schedule than this garbage.

Anyway, getting things fixed is good, but this continual NA prime time business is very annoying.
#60 Oct 12 2005 at 4:38 PM Rating: Good
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My only question :

Why didn't they merge this with Monday's downtime?
#61 Oct 12 2005 at 4:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Tallbrownjew wrote:
Oh come on, you have to pick the one day I get off of work?


seriously, me too...they hate us.
#62 Oct 12 2005 at 4:54 PM Rating: Decent
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BalthezarAsura wrote:
This is nearly a whole freaking day in the USA too. 11amET - 9pmET.

Why do they never do maintainence during the JP prime time? Is it just me or does it really seem like everyone outside of Asia has to deal with these updates and maintainence's, while they get to sleep through it?

Just once I'd like to see them do an update or maintainence from 2amET - 9amET or some bullcrap.



*Edit- Rate down, see if I care. Whoever did kiss my ***** Ya I'm complaining that the JP get to sleep through the maintenence... AGAIN. The last update was in the middle of the night in Japan too. And pretty much every server update/maintenence I can think of took place in the middle of the night in Japan. Just an observation. Instead of hiding behind your little anonymous rate-down button, if you disagree then speak up and show yourself coward, and prove me wrong if you think what I said is incorrect.


Edited, Wed Oct 12 10:16:42 2005 by BalthezarAsura


the maintence has always been done during off hours. The US hasn't always had the game as well. I think the maintence should end be 5am-1pm, pst, seems more fair.
#63 Oct 12 2005 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
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UK time 4pm - 2am... last maintenance was 6pm - 11pm... maint before that etc etc etc.

Always hitting NA time - yeah - but look what the EU players have to put up with.
#64 Oct 12 2005 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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My weekly schedule:
(Monday through Friday):
school, school, school, No school (play lots of FFXI b/c I don't have many other chances to), school.
FFXI server status:
Up, up, up, down, up.

I'm biting my tongue...
#65 Oct 12 2005 at 5:58 PM Rating: Decent
Ok.. i think that since we're paying for a full month... and with all the DDoS attacks, login problems, maintenances, updates, excuses and other things(no only this month...i mean all the time); we should recive something in return... like a free month or something.

Isnt fair that we cant play when we want to, even if we're paying for it. And c'mon... they can find a better way to make maintenances without turning down the servers... i mean, with all that money.
#66 Oct 12 2005 at 6:09 PM Rating: Default
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As I wrote in another thread, I don't see why people are STILL getting so upset over it, when it should be expected by now.

Whenever there's an update, they let it go for a few days, look at whatever bugs they missed, and update again.

It's been going on since I started playing, and I'm not surprised anymore.

And to all the people who are in school saying "They planned maintenence on our ONLY two days off this month"

You get all weekend to play. You're probably also getting a major Christmas break coming soon. Stop your *********

And another thing: I see that they are exchanging server equipment.

So when SE DOESN'T update their servers, and just leave them the way they are, and everyone gets DCed, you *****.

But when they are actually starting to be proactive about the situation, everyone STILL ********

Seriously, is there any winning with you guys?

Edited, Wed Oct 12 19:20:04 2005 by Erawyn
#67 Oct 12 2005 at 6:12 PM Rating: Decent
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SirReinhardt wrote:
sounds like they finally wised up about server problems. Maybe Uncle Billy gave them some new servers to help with the Xbox release(planning ahead maybe?).
This is, what, the third (fourth?) 8+ hour hardware-related maintenance in the past few months? I'm not getting my hopes up for this fixing connection issues.
#68 Oct 13 2005 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
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well that was well said Drakien the best post i have read today if i could give you a rate up i would.:)


Meh. I was just goofing around. But if you got a laugh out of it then all the better ^^
#69 Oct 13 2005 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Yep, yay for me as well. A majority of the maintenance is during my school day.

I don't usually log in until about 20:00 PDT anyway.
#70 Oct 13 2005 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
went to the hospital last night cause i tore a muscle in my back, the doctor told me to stay home from work today.....

on the bright side i cant work til monday, so..... the sun will shine tomorrow...

time to dust off ye old classic FFVII
#71 Oct 13 2005 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Mindel wrote:
For shame, playing a video game on Yom Kippur. ;p

What would your bobbeshi think?! Be a mentsch, forget ffxi, and go to shul. Gey gezunterheyt. ^-^;


ROFL!! Rate-up for making me virtually spit the coffee all over the screen that I normally *would* have been drinking at this time if I wasn't fasting.

Good times.

Sh'nah Tovah,
Goobs
#72 Oct 13 2005 at 10:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I am 50/50 with everything. I do agree with the NA Primetime maintinence and it sucks a little, but nothing we can do anyway. I am going to buy SOCOM III today. So......SOCOM III anyone?
#73 Oct 13 2005 at 11:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ok.. i think that since we're paying for a full month... and with all the DDoS attacks, login problems, maintenances, updates, excuses and other things(no only this month...i mean all the time); we should recive something in return... like a free month or something.


I agree with this. Every other honest company offers rebates/prorated credit for time their service is unavailable through no fault of the paying consumer. SE and POL should be no different.

Maybe a whole month would be a little much to ask, but at least prorate the disconnected hours off of next month's charges. It wouldn't be difficult to figure out, either. Take the amount paid for the basic subscription (not counting extra content IDs), break it down into a per-minute rate, then prorate all the minutes that that service was unavailable and take it off November's bill.

Quick math:

$12.95 US$ per month for the service in North America.
There are 31 days in October

That puts the per-day rate for this month at about 42 cents.

.42 divided by 24 is about 1.8 cents.

The prorate for ten hours of maintenance would be about 18 cents US$ per account.

Now, that doesn't seem like a whole lot to the individual account holders, but you take that and mulitply it by the number of people paying SE/POL for the service every month and it adds up (especially considering that we're looking at more than ten hours downtime for just this month, which is only about halfway over).

Also, just for reference, I called a colleague of mine who is a network administrator for the College of Literature, Arts, and Sciences at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. She says the longest it's ever taken her to do network maintenance, even in extreme conditions (massive upgrade, system failure, etc.) is four hours (and bear in mind that U of M is not only a big university and internet provider, but the network there is a major webhub/webjump for the Great Lakes region). When I told her that the maintenance time for this month of POL was approaching twenty hours, her comment was, "That seems extreme. They must not know what they're doing."
#74 Oct 13 2005 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok i agree. It's kinda getting old that we the people that play the most and have the most players on ffxi always get these updates during peak hrs. SE needs to rotate which time people get updates like JP get one at peak then north america. It's kinda proven a point that SE don't give a crap about their NA players.:(
#75 Oct 13 2005 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
beetroot wrote:
arg. all this downtime really grates with me, especially as when you translate the times into europe it pretty much always involves us missing an entire evening's play.

a robust infrastructure really shouldn't need this much downtime, it's almost as if each ff server is run on one box only with no hot spares or server mirroring from some giy's garage or something.

hmm....


It does set all HNM's to NA time though. So we miss one day and they miss weeks of getting HNM's.
#76 Oct 13 2005 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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went to the hospital last night cause i tore a muscle in my back, the doctor told me to stay home from work today.....

on the bright side i cant work til monday, so..... the sun will shine tomorrow...

time to dust off ye old classic FFVII



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I am 50/50 with everything. I do agree with the NA Primetime maintinence and it sucks a little, but nothing we can do anyway. I am going to buy SOCOM III today. So......SOCOM III anyone?


Good way to keep yourselves occupied during the maintenance. I'm doing the same with World Poker Tour for PS2.
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