H. Kote and O KoteFollow

On Leviathan O. Kotes have been at 2M for a while, recently going up to 2.6M+ H. Kotes are somewhat Monopolized by a LS (I think) and are over 4.5M in price. I think just peaked at 5M.

So yeah, it's all over >.>

Last time I checked, O. Kote was 3mil on Seraph, and H. Kote was 7mil.

H. Kote can easily be "monopolized" simply because only a few LSes on each server can organize a team to beat the mob in Riverne, due to people not having access, gear requirements, basic knowledge of the NM itself, etc. Hell, even rare drops from the normal mobs in Riverne go for a lot just because so few people farm them.

I also would like to make an attempt to stem the accusation that OMGWTFBBQ it's the gilsellers that rose the prices. From what I have seen of the known gilsellers on Seraph, they will sell at the going price in order to get their gil in a reasonable amount of time. At least 7/10 the names on the price history of O. Kote at any given time are not gilsellers, yet the price increases anyway. It is true however that they greatly reduce the chance of someone getting one from the NM.

Personally SE should make every drop from NM RARE/EXP. Hold on read further b4 ya crap on me....

Gil sellers would be done for. Then like a month down the road when almost all of them have realized what has happened and quits, SE can resore the items to NON-rare/exp.

Wouldnt they just come back then you might ask? Yes. But SE could do a census of all ppl reactivating their accounts that are 55-60+ in lvl and monitor/flag their accounts as possible gil sellers, when they remove the rare/exp statis.

This would also make it so that if you try to get a drop and there are "possible" gil sellers there that mpk or whatever to ya, SE would already have them marked as a posssible seller and would tell them to move on. If they go to another monopolized NM then that would be enough to cancell them from play Definate Seller.

Personally i dont think SE does everything in their power to remove the problem of seller. Think about it, I'm sure SE is a multi-million if not billion dollar corp. i'm sure they have all the tools at their disposal to remove the problem. I have never bought gil and never will and im not sure how it all works, but do you pay tax? If so where does it go SE?

Just a thought. Dont beat me up too bad lol.

A few problems with that:

1) Inventory space. I already have too much rare/ex crap than I know what to do with, especially now that there are so many level capped things. The event storage helps, but as more and more released stuff is becoming rare/ex, people are getting more and more crowded with stuff, especially when you have a few jobs that you play.

2) There will always be some way to make money. If its not NM drops, gilsellers will mine, harvest, farm, craft, etc. and still step on someone to make their profits.

3) Some people just hate camping NM's. I very much like that I can farm for three days and buy something instead of trying to camp it for a week, claiming it twice, and not getting the drop.

There's a group of GS who camp them on midgard. Sanfeng Lijx-something, Cyndi, and Tutan. As of late it's been just Cyndi and Tutan(Cyndi is like the micheal jordan of GS campers, he claims gallant and punisher nearly everytime) while the other two have been camping with other lv75 GSs for harder NMs. Have spoke with Cyndi and Tutan before. They are chinese of course, and don't deny being gilsellers, and understand very well that SE doesn't care that they're there. I don't provoke them in anyway other than calling them gilsellers and they will hassle me about calling a GM. They want me to do it, so they can have pleasure after the GM does nothing to them. Anyway, they dominate O kotes and fuma on the ah. Nearly every sale is by them or their mule named Ghos. Also, I saw GS langboy show up my last time there to join cyndi and tutan, pld galka with flee boots equipped(probably pld/war then) First time I ever saw a GS of the girl/boy series go there.


agree and disagree. 1) ya I figured O kotes was getting the rare/ex treatment with this update because of stroper chyme. A monopoly sucks. It didn't happen, which leaves me confused. This GS monopoly is every bit as obvious as chyme. Is SE willing to let it go on because they don't want to fool with creating a new bcnm just for kotes? hmm..

2)I don't think they cheat. I've been camping against them alot lately, and they don't know where and when the NMs will pop in their window anymore than I do. It's just that they camp them 24/7, and know by heart where the pop spots are. So do I, or atleast the most common pop spots, and have got a decent amount of claims over them lately ever since it's down to 2 there and not 4 of them. It really comes down to the NMs popping in your field of view instead of theirs for the claim. They don't use anything to aid them from what I can tell. If there is just one of you and more than 2 of them though, it's a pretty good bet you are wasting your time there. I wouldn't bother. It's just too frustrating to watch them claim NM after NM. I will say war/thf or thf/war is a must for camping them.

I think my beef has just been more less that the price has more than doubled in less than a month.

I would be more than happy if there was a 3rd option say another Kote with lesser stats that was maybe only +8-10 attack make it rare ex

make it a VE, LL kind of mob 1-3 hour pop.

that would at least give us another lesser option. or they could make it a BCNM drop. I would gladly attempt it. That competition would also bring the other Kotes price down as well by giving another option.

Trust me, the ones on Ifrit cheat. I have seen it first hand. I've explained this in a number of threads too, and any person on Ifrit who has camped against them has always agreed. My first hand experience on one occasion was when Mee spawned behind a tree, out of sight of the gil seller who was stationed on the platform. He knew the NM was spawning within a few seconds of Mee showing up, so he had flee active. By the time the red dot on my radar showed up, he was already fleeing towards the mob and had voked it before I could even run around the tree to get him.

So how do I know he cheated?

- There's no way he could have seen Mee from the platform as he popped behind a tree in a corner of the room, so line of sight is out of the question, and mobs down below don't appear on the radar from the platform position (which was where the gil seller was.)
- Before Mee was even a red dot on the radar the gil seller was running towards the position Mee was popping at.

Also, I was not the only one camping. At the time we had 8 people camping Mee, and there were 2 gil sellers camping him. 8 people couldn't get the claim. Mee popped 3 times before everyone said ***** it. Each time someone was very close to Mee, but the gil sellers had flee engaged and ran to the exact spot Mee was popping at before anyone even saw him spawn. Same thing with Quu. When Mee got claimed, we'd all move to Quu, and again were out-claimed every time by the same gil selling team.

That makes for a total of around 6 claims lost, at an 8:2 ratio of players to gil sellers. There's no way that they could know where a random pop location is every time, and yet they manage it somehow. After seeing them in action, the only logical conclusion to draw is that they are cheating, and more than likely using a packet sniffer.