Banned for RMT?Follow

Hopefully by the time you leave grade school you'll have learned.

Recently a round of mass bannings have occured that has resulted in the wrongful banning of many legitimate players for "RMT Activity" A friend of mine was recently caught up in these bannings even though he has never been involved with RMT. The only common factor with these accounts is the fact that they all garden as a source of income. In return for there years of loyalty as customers they have been completely neglected by your companys so called customer service representatives. I can no longer tolerate this treatment of people I have become very close to over the last 5 years. As a result I have decided to cancel my content Id's effective at 3:00 P.M. EST July, 8th 2009. I will no longer pay for service that quite frankly could be better provided by a 7 year old child. My account will continue to remain cancelled denying your company 22 USD a month in revenue until these issues are resolved and a formal public apology is provided to your waning customer base. A customer base that is dwindling by the way due to your blantent mistreatment of it. I also once had plans to purchase Final Fantasy XIV online once it was released next year. Those plans have also been cancelled in light of your companys blantant failings across the board.

Sent this to them this afternoon. Completely sick of their ******** at this point.

You understand that maintaining enough pots to make anything more than pocket money with this takes a lot more than "minimal time".




There is a huge difference. One is legitimate and involves actual work on your part (as much as farming or camping NMs is also work) and the other is not and requires no work.


Oh and FYI if SE also nerfs the NPC sellback price of platinum and gold leaves I'd recommend getting your elemental staves now if you are leveling or plan on leveling BLM. NPCing the leaves is used to offset the cost of the saplings, and if that dries up then the price of ores will have to go up by quite a lot to keep ore gardening profitable. Nobody is going to grow ores for a loss just so you can have cheap staves.

There is only one reason people go to all the trouble of ore gardening and that is large profits. It's too much trouble and too much risk to do for petty profits.

Edited, Jul 9th 2009 6:29am by Lobivopis

The problem is that none of those checks have much meaning. You can have 20 lvl 75s on a character that existed since the beta, and still break the rules... the salvage exploit showed that. If anything, having a lot of 75s makes you more of a suspect. Address changes could indicate account theft or sale, but what's keeping RMT from logging in while you sleep without locking you out and use the account for their purposes? How would SE know the difference? And finally, if 1 gardening mule deemed RMT is 1 strike, how do you expect NOT to be banned for 6 gardening mules?

First, Pet Food Alpha, and now, we've got a headline on The Escapist:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/93041-Square-Enix-Bans-Players-for-Gardening-in-FFXI

Keep at it folks, and we may see a happy ending for everyone wrongly banned.

Yes! We made the escapist news... now this is starting to get the attention this deserves!

/crosses fingers that her account will be reinstated.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/93041-Square-Enix-Bans-Players-for-Gardening-in-FFXI

Edited, Jul 9th 2009 9:54pm by Miori

Do you know what I think is needed?

A legal precedent that recognizes that a player has a substantial interest in the effort invested in their character, and recognizes a certain small set of rights against the arbitrary alienation from that effort. Such as: there has to be a fair appeal process and some transparency, and that an MMO vendor cannot ban without good cause. Right now, there is nothing.

The MMO market is too juicy and profitable for this to be a deal-killer, and I think it's only fair. Not quite property rights to your character (that's a non-starter), something more modest. But not this complete disregard for a player's sense of investment into the character.

Edited, Jul 9th 2009 8:40pm by Pachichachi

No, Neispace, that's not necessarily what will happen. It depends on the nature of the finding. It could be that simply the existence of a transparent appeals process is all that is necessary. (As it is, everyone already has a right to challenge everything in a court of law - anyone is already free to file any crazy-*** lawsuit they want, they'll just got tossed out early in the process.)

Do you like being able to afford elemental staves? Because if SE were to ban gardening on multiple accounts as an "exploit" the price of elemental staves would increase to around 1-3 million for NQs and 5-8 million for HQs.


Edited, Jul 10th 2009 6:07am by Lobivopis

It was a "real" name not a keyboard mash name. I won't say what it was because I'm paranoid and I don't want there to be any possibility that SE might track it back to me.

How about you actually read what I posted and use your brain. I said no one thing is a 100% sign that someone is RMT. Depending on what the answers are to ALL OF these questions could help to weed out false positives. It IS NOT 100% like I said. But it will help reduce the 'What?! You have 15 gardening mules and sell your results to a NPC?! RMT BAN!' *********

I've never sold anything to that NPC. I run my happy **** to the chocobo stables and sell everything to that NPC for the 5 mules I have in Bastok Mines. I had completely forgotten I could sell things to that NPC and I always just past him. In Bastok Markets mules, I sell everything to the weapon shop in that line of 3 or 4 shops.