Best Way to Get Body Seals?Follow

I got all my RDM body seals from slacking subordinates. Zone in -> visitant status -> VC 7 -> run to NPC quest giver -> run to 3 NPC's -> give correct answer -> warp to Jeuno -> tele to Altepa -> rinse repeat. IT was relatively painless and didn't take that much time in the end. Drop rate for seals was about 25-30% and 1/5th of time it was RDM. Also needed RNG so it was doubly good for me.

Sure NM's with the right group is quicker but this quest can be done on spare time when you only have 30 min or so here and there.

It's not greedy to lock out one seal, you should never have more than 2 people on a seal ideally anyways. And the reason you can lock out 1 seal for yourself is you're taking the time to make a hopefully good group.

Just don't advertise the seal you want, and if someone asks about it, tell them it's already taken.

You're confused and deliberately misunderstanding. It's a generally accepted convention amongst NA players that if you shout for instance. "Pallid Percy NM Do you need it? PLD SAM THF Head Seal You can have this /tell @1/4" that you're implying the RDM seal is taken, otherwise you'd be advertising it. People who respond to that shout should only need those seals, or be aware that those are the seals up for grabs.

If someone wants RDM seals it is their responsibility to ask, not to assume that RDM seals were simply forgotten and are actually free lot. They're the idiots if they get all the way to a kill without asking then get upset that RDM seals are claimed. Also it's the responsibility of you the leader to find out what seals they want before or immediately after you invite them so as to keep tabs on who wants what and if what they want correlates well with what jobs they have and what jobs you need in the future.

Nowhere in my post did I indicate you should deliberately obfuscate what seals are up for grabs. Even if I was a complete douche (pot meet kettle), and advocating douchery that's still a bad idea because you'll only get one kill on the NM and then people will leave. Not to mention you'll have a harder time forming pugs in the future.

Even amongst JP players it's very clear if you don't advertise a seal, it's not for lotting. That being said, JP generally follow the convention of marking a locked item with the 〆 character. Occasionally you will see NA following a similar convention using X but it's much rarer than simply taking the item out of the shout entirely, and it's just as clear in that way. Keep in mind that JP have a lot more room to say something in a shout.


Edit: PS: It's absolutely asinine to build a group around the "Freelot" system, especially for seal NMs where you shouldn't need more than 6 people to kill it. People are less likely to get what they want, and without organizing it to a small number per item you may end up with a lot of competition over one or two seals. If you don't actually mean free lot, and simply that the seal is "open" because no one in the group wants it yet, you shouldn't say free, you should just list it or say open or Y/X where Y is the number of players in your PT that want it and X is the amount you intend to possibly invite that want it, hopefully 1-3.

Edited, Feb 6th 2011 1:04pm by RamseySylph

That drop rate is what I had hoped for when I did The Egg Enthusiast like 20-25 times yesterday. I can use 3 of the 5 body seals and ended up with 1 RDM and 2 useless seals -.-;

Doin Brygid here. 3 WHM, 3 COR, and a BST to just one DRK. Random **** is still random.

So, you have 3 lunars with no good Atmas? Get your Atmas before the seals. Atmas are MUCH MUCH MUCH more powerful than ANY equipment you could ever possibly hope for - and, in many cases, 2 of the better Atmas will contribute to your damage more than all of your equipment combined.

With 3 lunars and some of the better Atma, you can pretty much trio any regular seal NM out there as well. I cannot stress Atmas enough.

Well that's an incredibly non-random distribution. Sure it can happen statistically, but that experience is bound to be rare. I've spammed 5 different quests for various seals and while occasionally I get more of a certain seal than another, by the time I get all the seals I need its reasonably spread out. I have never got 4X as many seals for one job as another.

Arguably the same problem could happen with NM's where you could statistically never seal 1 of your seals in 100 kills. That would be rare but since all the seals are random occurences, it's just as likely to happen in NM fights as with quests.

And btw there are 5 seals with slacking subordinates.

Over the last few days, done Slacking Subordinates 192 times (been tracking specific results with day/moon phase notation if you're interested in specifics). So far results have been 17 pup, 17 blu, 10 rng, 9 rdm, 9 war.

Was doing this quest solely for rdm and war...but moreso for war since I have the 9 stones rotting in inventory atm. Had 1 rdm seal from a random Dom-OP so this quest has essentially given me 4 finished +1 bodies and 1 seal off a 5th. Seems the easiest way to get a seal is to not want the one you're being given...random sucks, but odds say eventually you'll get what you want with enough time investment. Overall drop rate for me thus far has been 32.3%

Blu and Pup seem to be the primary seal drops, but I have to imagine that's just because I don't need those...results may vary, etc.

The drop rate for "The Egg Enthusiast" seems to be about the same as reported for other quests - roughly 1 in 3. The problem with body seals is that you need more of them and the quests drop more types (5 versus 4). Compared to the other seals (hand, leg, etc) you will need to run the quest on average another 50% more times to get what you need.

"Egg Enthusiast" sucks. Takes me about 8-9 minutes for a single run. I flux to #3 and run back from the mound there. I've received 6 body seals so far and not a single one is the blm that I need.

I have used quests for blm hands and rng legs. In both of those, I was very lucky and the seal type that I needed was overwhelmingly the most prevalent drop.

There is another trick to filter out seals you dont' want. granted this likely doesn't improve drop rates at all, but if you inventory is full, you will only receive seals you already possess in your inventory.

Imperial coins.

I agree with these 3. I would not spam a quest for seals unless I needed at least 2 jobs from the possible drops. I used quests to get my sch and smn legs after the first expansion because I didn't know any better. NM's are just a lot faster. And sometimes, you just feel like doing things yourself.

However, some of the body seals are more of a pain in the **** than others. Quests are a nice way to pick up a couple extra seals during some free time and also allow you to cap fame in a zone. This time around I did the Getting Lucky Quest in Grauberg as I needed 3 of the 4 seal drops. I also did Slacking Subordinates for BLU and RDM seals. I was pretty lucky with the latter in particular. I ended up wth 8 blu (the amount I needed) 3 rdm 2 cor 2 rng 2 war. I will fight an NM to finish of the RDM seals.

I think shouting, getting together a small group and either locking out or limiting each seal to 2 lotters is the fastest way to go. And while the body seal NMs take more effort to pop, they do make shouting for pick ups a little easier because you will undoubtedly get people who want to lot the hand seals, making it easier to find people.