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#1 Aug 06 2011 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Personally, I usually build Amber and Azure by killing Razorbacks. They commonly drop the pop item for the NM Sarcophilus, which can be easily evasion tanked for guaranteed pearl. There's also 2 Ephemerals close by for bonus lights.

There are mobs that give more lights per kill, but the Razorbacks are ridiculously easy to spam.
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#4 Aug 06 2011 at 8:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Little tip for Konschtat not many people know about (I don't think)

The ghosts east of the imps (which are east of 08) give double azure for some reason (16 per kill instead of 8)

If all you've got to build azure with is a WHM, they can be a good way to get it. Banish rips them up, especially with Beyond atma (everyone knows it greatly increases ice attack power, but it boosts light attack power as well)



And, now that I look at the page on wiki for lights, it seems a whole lot of discoveries of NQ mobs giving increased lights are being made o_O May want to check that out.

Edited, Aug 6th 2011 10:16pm by Fynlar
#5 Aug 07 2011 at 12:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Personally I build Ruby on the Ley Cenoid near Conflux 3. I take it to about 96 (abyssite dependent) from it I take azure to about 128, and amber a little less and on the same mob use pearl to kill after 96 ruby. I am still refining my DNC solo farming but ir has been decently successful everytime so far and I don't see why this wouldnt't work for any other DD job.
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#6 Aug 07 2011 at 4:38 AM Rating: Good
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The tonberries give double amber (16). Obviously pavan will give you the largest boost if you can find one. Ephemeral clionid pops in the tonberries also for bonus azure lights.
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RangerMorie wrote:
The tonberries give double amber (16). Obviously pavan will give you the largest boost if you can find one. Ephemeral clionid pops in the tonberries also for bonus azure lights.


A Pavan always spawns among lizards, which is helpful since lizards don't amber. I've gotten both my refresh hairpins there.
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The tonberries give double amber (16). Obviously pavan will give you the largest boost if you can find one. Ephemeral clionid pops in the tonberries also for bonus azure lights.


A Pavan always spawns among lizards, which is helpful since lizards don't amber. I've gotten both my refresh hairpins there.


Pavan wanders all over to Ley Celinoid too. Which give enhanced, which is the only one you really want to cap.
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#9 Aug 10 2011 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, maybe somebody can tell me what I'm doing worng. I go to Abyssea Konschat (sp) I caap azure on ephemral clionid, I get ruby to about 128 on ephmeral Limule, I get amber to 190+ on pavan and then start kills stuff for pearl, Treants, Fungars, razorbacks, Saplings, Bugards etc. and I don't get gold chests, sometimes I don't get chests period .. Am I doing something wrong or am I just unlucky?
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Canario wrote:
Ok, maybe somebody can tell me what I'm doing worng. I go to Abyssea Konschat (sp) I caap azure on ephemral clionid, I get ruby to about 128 on ephmeral Limule, I get amber to 190+ on pavan and then start kills stuff for pearl, Treants, Fungars, razorbacks, Saplings, Bugards etc. and I don't get gold chests, sometimes I don't get chests period .. Am I doing something wrong or am I just unlucky?


Why ruby?
What is your pearl at when you are getting low ~ no chests?
I would suggest while you are running around looking for pavan and eph's check for Tier I vnm. They give pearl 100% of the time at a rate of 10 per kill.
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#11 Aug 10 2011 at 8:27 AM Rating: Excellent
You should be seeing chests frequently dropping once your pearl gets high enough, provided there aren't many groups in there Cleaving/AoE farming mobs in there as you're trying to farm them yourself, since only so many chests can be up at any given time. However, with the recent change to the number of chests that could be up at once, it'd take a significant number of people AoE farming like that to affect your chest drop rates once your pearl is high enough.

I personally disagree with the idea of building your ruby light up since the higher that gets, the more it's going to skew the % that the chest that will drop will be a large gold pyxis. It may take a bit longer to get your other lights where you want, but it prevents any unnecessary contamination of your lights by getting so much ruby.
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#12 Aug 10 2011 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you for the quick replies, I was getting ruby because a friend told me i could get peearl, amber etc lights from the red chests >.> maybe i shouldn't believe everything i'm told? lol ok I won't bother with ruby now, as for the tier 1 VNM's err I have done a few but they annoy the heck out of me trying to track them down 57 yalms west of here ..walk 57 yalms, kneel, the monster is 167 yalms east of here >.<*
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#13 Aug 10 2011 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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you only need to take ruby to the high 80's low 90's. This will give you strong - Intense Azure Pearl Amber, Ruby, with the occasional silver, gold, ebon. Then you take pearl to cap and using the red chests you take amber and azure to slightly over 128 each. Once your Amber and Azure are above your Ruby the Ruby chest rate drops off considerably.

Its the best way for melee to solo farm things like dark rings.
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Canario wrote:
Thank you for the quick replies, I was getting ruby because a friend told me i could get peearl, amber etc lights from the red chests >.> maybe i shouldn't believe everything i'm told?
Your friend is correct, but it's a give/take situation. Yes, you'll be able to build lights a little faster by opening red chests, but then you'll also keep getting red chests while you're trying to farm gold chests.

Personally, I feel it's better to spend a little extra time building lights and avoid ruby; every time you get a red chest increases the possibility that it could have been a gold chest.
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Canario wrote:
Thank you for the quick replies, I was getting ruby because a friend told me i could get peearl, amber etc lights from the red chests >.> maybe i shouldn't believe everything i'm told?
Your friend is correct, but it's a give/take situation. Yes, you'll be able to build lights a little faster by opening red chests, but then you'll also keep getting red chests while you're trying to farm gold chests.

Personally, I feel it's better to spend a little extra time building lights and avoid ruby; every time you get a red chest increases the possibility that it could have been a gold chest.



and some jobs don't have the luxury of having ways to build azure. My DNC is my main solo farm for crap like this because in the end it gets the job done faster. This is using Ruby lights as my source. As long as you don't **** yourself once you get amber and azure up you rarely see ruby anymore. Its only if you cap cap cap that it really applies. I used to use my RDM cuz I could azure, then melee amber/pearl. But using ruby to build lights has proved much faster.
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#16 Aug 10 2011 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Do saplings link here? According to wiki thats the only mob that doesn't drop ruby
Was going to consider FC these for possible Dark Rings later with a friend...

And if that doesnt work i can always get on DNC and duo with friend on mage
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Is there a good way to ramp up pearl lights? I've no problem building other lights, but it's all for naught when I get booted two hours later with something crappy like 60 pearl and not enough chests dropping to even build TEs.
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Is there a good way to ramp up pearl lights? I've no problem building other lights, but it's all for naught when I get booted two hours later with something crappy like 60 pearl and not enough chests dropping to even build TEs.


Tier 1 vnm's is the only 'good' way I know to build pearl.
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The following information is only true if you have all 3 abyssites for each chest type.

128 of each light will cap each light. So, technically, you only "need" 128 amber to have a chance at getting a wivre hairpin with refresh. However, any lights over 128 also increase the frequency of that chest relative to your other lights. For instance, if you have 128 azure, and 128 amber, you'll see about the same of each (although amber chests seem to occur less than ruby and azure from my experience).

Now, since you want TE's I assume, as well as the wivre hairpin, the best combination of lights you can do is 128 azure/255 amber. Ruby should be avoided altogether. Treant saplings work great for that.

If you have BLU, I had no trouble going BLU/RDM and rounding up all the wivres. Then CFH on the one you are nuking, and you'll kill all the unclaimed ones and gain no additional azure lights. For some reason, disengaging from these mobs does not prevent you from gaining lights. If you don't have BLU, treant saplings are probably your best bet.

Edit: Highly recommend you build pearl off the VNMS. They give 10-15 guaranteed. With 3 abyssites you should only need around 115.

Edited, Aug 10th 2011 4:40pm by RangerMorie
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Me personally I say not ***** around running from camp to camp finding different targets for different lights, following VNM around etc. I just walk north from entrance then down the east path to the clioniods and flying crab things. They are all able to provide you with any light (granted pearl is a tough drop from them but I do run a little ruby as others have said, try to stay under 100) not to mention they are nice and squishy. There are 3 or 4 ephemeral that roam here too.

Has worked well for me, hope this can help someone. Good luck in your adventures!


(I used BLU for this)
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Yeah, I'm not a big fan of chasing VNMs for pearl, either. With all the time you could spend warping around playing the peekaboo with resting to pop, you could've probably gotten the same amount of lights just mowing through normal mobs.
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Yeah, I'm not a big fan of chasing VNMs for pearl, either. With all the time you could spend warping around playing the peekaboo with resting to pop, you could've probably gotten the same amount of lights just mowing through normal mobs.


Thirded. I did the VNM thing back when it was believed that T1s give a lot more light than they actually do. You generally SHOULD be able to get pearl faster by bulldozing NQ mobs, yup.
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Ruby building is faster trust me, especially for pearl. If you do not believe me go out and try it. you can get up to 64 pearl, azure, amber from the chests, and as long as you keep it below 96 (with all three abyssites) you will see Amber/Azure/Pearl at Strong (32) or Intense (64). As you build pearl you will see your light build time increase.

My general strat is Ruby to MAX 96. Then I open all Azure, and Pearl boxes, leaving the amber for the time being. Once I hit MAX (or close to it) I begin pear killing, I do this until the very end of my farm.

It takes 3-4 chests of each light to "cap" yourself. Then you can just kill mobs and get gold chests.

This is best done at the Ley Cilinoids near Flux 3. It has a few positives,

1. The mobs take double melee damage while they cast (this means most physical WS' for ruby will one shot them)
2. The mobs are only aggressive to HP at night time.
3. Khalamari is nearby for 15 pearl every 15 minutes for a short easy fight.
4. Pavan wanders nearby for quick easy amber
5. T1 VNM also is in the vicinity

the only real drawbacks are if they get a ga III off, so a stun is recomended especially at night time as a gaIII will hurt you enough t cause links.

But this is the fastest way to do it. Ive played with the non ruby way as RDM/NIN and it is inferior to using Ruby chests to gain lights.
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Mob                 | Azure | Ruby | Amber 
 
Ley Cloinid         | 8     | 8    | 8 
Sods Limule         | 8     | 8    | 8 
Shadow Lizard       | 8     | 8    | - 
Trotting Sapling    | 8     | -    | 8 
Razorback           | 8     | 8    | 8 
Hoary Ragwort       | 8     | 8    | 8 
Ab'Zxomit           | 8     | 16   | 8 
Highland Rafflesia  | 8     | 16   | 8 
Shadow Funguar      | 8     | 8    | 8 
Gunge Slug          | 8     | 16   | 8 
Licorice            | 8     | 8    | 16 
Gneiss leech        | 8     | 8    | 8 
Mesa Wivre          | 16    | 8    | 8  
Ypotryll            | 8     | 16   | 8  
Morboling           | 16    | 8    | 16 
Highland Treant     | 8     | 8    | 16 
Deep Eye            | 8     | 8    | 8 
Viridis Wyvern      | 8     | 16   | 16 
Dybbuk              | 8     | 8    | 8 
Qaitu               | 16    | 16   | 8 
Dapifer Imp         | 16    | 16   | 8 
Tonberry Bedeviler  | 16    | 8    | 16 
Crypt. Occultist    | 16    | 16   | 16
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#25 Aug 10 2011 at 11:26 PM Rating: Decent
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So what's the target amount for amber light for dark rings to pop, assuming we already maxed azure and pearl? (and ruby to 80-90 ish?)
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#26 Aug 11 2011 at 12:04 AM Rating: Good
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dont max your lights. You only need to get to a certain point before maxing them. You don't want to many Blue chest dropping blocking your amber chests, and vice versa. I personally take my amber to 120, and my azure to 128. It will be adjusted as I go, if I am in excess time ill push up amber 1-2 notches (136) and if I am running low on time ill push azure up 1-2 notches (144). Once I start getting KI's I will go outside and reset my lights.

Ideally your post light building should look close to this (assuming you have the abyssites for chest drops of course if not each one you miss will mean you need to "cap" slightly higher. But no where near the actual Cap).

Amber: 120
Azure: 128
Ruby : 96
Pearl: Working to Cap (230)

The only light you want capped is pearl, the other 2 ones are control variables if you have high amber, gold chests will drop slightly more often, if you have more azure blue chests will drop more often.

Ruby is set 96 is about as high as you can go before you euchre yourself and start getting gold/silver/ebon very frequently.

your "cap" is not getting KI's in chests, this means your chests will be something you can use or sell, win win. Once you get KI's you are done, and should reset your lights, then go again.
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