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#1 Aug 06 2011 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Personally, I usually build Amber and Azure by killing Razorbacks. They commonly drop the pop item for the NM Sarcophilus, which can be easily evasion tanked for guaranteed pearl. There's also 2 Ephemerals close by for bonus lights.

There are mobs that give more lights per kill, but the Razorbacks are ridiculously easy to spam.
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Little tip for Konschtat not many people know about (I don't think)

The ghosts east of the imps (which are east of 08) give double azure for some reason (16 per kill instead of 8)

If all you've got to build azure with is a WHM, they can be a good way to get it. Banish rips them up, especially with Beyond atma (everyone knows it greatly increases ice attack power, but it boosts light attack power as well)



And, now that I look at the page on wiki for lights, it seems a whole lot of discoveries of NQ mobs giving increased lights are being made o_O May want to check that out.

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Personally I build Ruby on the Ley Cenoid near Conflux 3. I take it to about 96 (abyssite dependent) from it I take azure to about 128, and amber a little less and on the same mob use pearl to kill after 96 ruby. I am still refining my DNC solo farming but ir has been decently successful everytime so far and I don't see why this wouldnt't work for any other DD job.
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The tonberries give double amber (16). Obviously pavan will give you the largest boost if you can find one. Ephemeral clionid pops in the tonberries also for bonus azure lights.
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The tonberries give double amber (16). Obviously pavan will give you the largest boost if you can find one. Ephemeral clionid pops in the tonberries also for bonus azure lights.


A Pavan always spawns among lizards, which is helpful since lizards don't amber. I've gotten both my refresh hairpins there.
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The tonberries give double amber (16). Obviously pavan will give you the largest boost if you can find one. Ephemeral clionid pops in the tonberries also for bonus azure lights.


A Pavan always spawns among lizards, which is helpful since lizards don't amber. I've gotten both my refresh hairpins there.


Pavan wanders all over to Ley Celinoid too. Which give enhanced, which is the only one you really want to cap.
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#9 Aug 10 2011 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, maybe somebody can tell me what I'm doing worng. I go to Abyssea Konschat (sp) I caap azure on ephemral clionid, I get ruby to about 128 on ephmeral Limule, I get amber to 190+ on pavan and then start kills stuff for pearl, Treants, Fungars, razorbacks, Saplings, Bugards etc. and I don't get gold chests, sometimes I don't get chests period .. Am I doing something wrong or am I just unlucky?
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Ok, maybe somebody can tell me what I'm doing worng. I go to Abyssea Konschat (sp) I caap azure on ephemral clionid, I get ruby to about 128 on ephmeral Limule, I get amber to 190+ on pavan and then start kills stuff for pearl, Treants, Fungars, razorbacks, Saplings, Bugards etc. and I don't get gold chests, sometimes I don't get chests period .. Am I doing something wrong or am I just unlucky?


Why ruby?
What is your pearl at when you are getting low ~ no chests?
I would suggest while you are running around looking for pavan and eph's check for Tier I vnm. They give pearl 100% of the time at a rate of 10 per kill.
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You should be seeing chests frequently dropping once your pearl gets high enough, provided there aren't many groups in there Cleaving/AoE farming mobs in there as you're trying to farm them yourself, since only so many chests can be up at any given time. However, with the recent change to the number of chests that could be up at once, it'd take a significant number of people AoE farming like that to affect your chest drop rates once your pearl is high enough.

I personally disagree with the idea of building your ruby light up since the higher that gets, the more it's going to skew the % that the chest that will drop will be a large gold pyxis. It may take a bit longer to get your other lights where you want, but it prevents any unnecessary contamination of your lights by getting so much ruby.
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#12 Aug 10 2011 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you for the quick replies, I was getting ruby because a friend told me i could get peearl, amber etc lights from the red chests >.> maybe i shouldn't believe everything i'm told? lol ok I won't bother with ruby now, as for the tier 1 VNM's err I have done a few but they annoy the heck out of me trying to track them down 57 yalms west of here ..walk 57 yalms, kneel, the monster is 167 yalms east of here >.<*
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you only need to take ruby to the high 80's low 90's. This will give you strong - Intense Azure Pearl Amber, Ruby, with the occasional silver, gold, ebon. Then you take pearl to cap and using the red chests you take amber and azure to slightly over 128 each. Once your Amber and Azure are above your Ruby the Ruby chest rate drops off considerably.

Its the best way for melee to solo farm things like dark rings.
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Thank you for the quick replies, I was getting ruby because a friend told me i could get peearl, amber etc lights from the red chests >.> maybe i shouldn't believe everything i'm told?
Your friend is correct, but it's a give/take situation. Yes, you'll be able to build lights a little faster by opening red chests, but then you'll also keep getting red chests while you're trying to farm gold chests.

Personally, I feel it's better to spend a little extra time building lights and avoid ruby; every time you get a red chest increases the possibility that it could have been a gold chest.
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Thank you for the quick replies, I was getting ruby because a friend told me i could get peearl, amber etc lights from the red chests >.> maybe i shouldn't believe everything i'm told?
Your friend is correct, but it's a give/take situation. Yes, you'll be able to build lights a little faster by opening red chests, but then you'll also keep getting red chests while you're trying to farm gold chests.

Personally, I feel it's better to spend a little extra time building lights and avoid ruby; every time you get a red chest increases the possibility that it could have been a gold chest.



and some jobs don't have the luxury of having ways to build azure. My DNC is my main solo farm for **** like this because in the end it gets the job done faster. This is using Ruby lights as my source. As long as you don't **** yourself once you get amber and azure up you rarely see ruby anymore. Its only if you cap cap cap that it really applies. I used to use my RDM cuz I could azure, then melee amber/pearl. But using ruby to build lights has proved much faster.
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Do saplings link here? According to wiki thats the only mob that doesn't drop ruby
Was going to consider FC these for possible Dark Rings later with a friend...

And if that doesnt work i can always get on DNC and duo with friend on mage
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Is there a good way to ramp up pearl lights? I've no problem building other lights, but it's all for naught when I get booted two hours later with something crappy like 60 pearl and not enough chests dropping to even build TEs.
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Is there a good way to ramp up pearl lights? I've no problem building other lights, but it's all for naught when I get booted two hours later with something crappy like 60 pearl and not enough chests dropping to even build TEs.


Tier 1 vnm's is the only 'good' way I know to build pearl.
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The following information is only true if you have all 3 abyssites for each chest type.

128 of each light will cap each light. So, technically, you only "need" 128 amber to have a chance at getting a wivre hairpin with refresh. However, any lights over 128 also increase the frequency of that chest relative to your other lights. For instance, if you have 128 azure, and 128 amber, you'll see about the same of each (although amber chests seem to occur less than ruby and azure from my experience).

Now, since you want TE's I assume, as well as the wivre hairpin, the best combination of lights you can do is 128 azure/255 amber. Ruby should be avoided altogether. Treant saplings work great for that.

If you have BLU, I had no trouble going BLU/RDM and rounding up all the wivres. Then CFH on the one you are nuking, and you'll kill all the unclaimed ones and gain no additional azure lights. For some reason, disengaging from these mobs does not prevent you from gaining lights. If you don't have BLU, treant saplings are probably your best bet.

Edit: Highly recommend you build pearl off the VNMS. They give 10-15 guaranteed. With 3 abyssites you should only need around 115.

Edited, Aug 10th 2011 4:40pm by RangerMorie
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Me personally I say not **** around running from camp to camp finding different targets for different lights, following VNM around etc. I just walk north from entrance then down the east path to the clioniods and flying crab things. They are all able to provide you with any light (granted pearl is a tough drop from them but I do run a little ruby as others have said, try to stay under 100) not to mention they are nice and squishy. There are 3 or 4 ephemeral that roam here too.

Has worked well for me, hope this can help someone. Good luck in your adventures!


(I used BLU for this)
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Yeah, I'm not a big fan of chasing VNMs for pearl, either. With all the time you could spend warping around playing the peekaboo with resting to pop, you could've probably gotten the same amount of lights just mowing through normal mobs.
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Yeah, I'm not a big fan of chasing VNMs for pearl, either. With all the time you could spend warping around playing the peekaboo with resting to pop, you could've probably gotten the same amount of lights just mowing through normal mobs.


Thirded. I did the VNM thing back when it was believed that T1s give a lot more light than they actually do. You generally SHOULD be able to get pearl faster by bulldozing NQ mobs, yup.
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Ruby building is faster trust me, especially for pearl. If you do not believe me go out and try it. you can get up to 64 pearl, azure, amber from the chests, and as long as you keep it below 96 (with all three abyssites) you will see Amber/Azure/Pearl at Strong (32) or Intense (64). As you build pearl you will see your light build time increase.

My general strat is Ruby to MAX 96. Then I open all Azure, and Pearl boxes, leaving the amber for the time being. Once I hit MAX (or close to it) I begin pear killing, I do this until the very end of my farm.

It takes 3-4 chests of each light to "cap" yourself. Then you can just kill mobs and get gold chests.

This is best done at the Ley Cilinoids near Flux 3. It has a few positives,

1. The mobs take double melee damage while they cast (this means most physical WS' for ruby will one shot them)
2. The mobs are only aggressive to HP at night time.
3. Khalamari is nearby for 15 pearl every 15 minutes for a short easy fight.
4. Pavan wanders nearby for quick easy amber
5. T1 VNM also is in the vicinity

the only real drawbacks are if they get a ga III off, so a stun is recomended especially at night time as a gaIII will hurt you enough t cause links.

But this is the fastest way to do it. Ive played with the non ruby way as RDM/NIN and it is inferior to using Ruby chests to gain lights.
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Ley Cloinid         | 8     | 8    | 8 
Sods Limule         | 8     | 8    | 8 
Shadow Lizard       | 8     | 8    | - 
Trotting Sapling    | 8     | -    | 8 
Razorback           | 8     | 8    | 8 
Hoary Ragwort       | 8     | 8    | 8 
Ab'Zxomit           | 8     | 16   | 8 
Highland Rafflesia  | 8     | 16   | 8 
Shadow Funguar      | 8     | 8    | 8 
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Mesa Wivre          | 16    | 8    | 8  
Ypotryll            | 8     | 16   | 8  
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Highland Treant     | 8     | 8    | 16 
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#25 Aug 10 2011 at 11:26 PM Rating: Decent
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So what's the target amount for amber light for dark rings to pop, assuming we already maxed azure and pearl? (and ruby to 80-90 ish?)
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dont max your lights. You only need to get to a certain point before maxing them. You don't want to many Blue chest dropping blocking your amber chests, and vice versa. I personally take my amber to 120, and my azure to 128. It will be adjusted as I go, if I am in excess time ill push up amber 1-2 notches (136) and if I am running low on time ill push azure up 1-2 notches (144). Once I start getting KI's I will go outside and reset my lights.

Ideally your post light building should look close to this (assuming you have the abyssites for chest drops of course if not each one you miss will mean you need to "cap" slightly higher. But no where near the actual Cap).

Amber: 120
Azure: 128
Ruby : 96
Pearl: Working to Cap (230)

The only light you want capped is pearl, the other 2 ones are control variables if you have high amber, gold chests will drop slightly more often, if you have more azure blue chests will drop more often.

Ruby is set 96 is about as high as you can go before you euchre yourself and start getting gold/silver/ebon very frequently.

your "cap" is not getting KI's in chests, this means your chests will be something you can use or sell, win win. Once you get KI's you are done, and should reset your lights, then go again.
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If you're getting big gold boxes (which you should be, if you're trying to get the Dark Rings that you actually want to keep instead of just sell to NPC), that means you're able to get KIs too. It's just a necessary evil if you're trying to farm keeper rings.
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Thats true but so is Azure giving EXP/Cruor/Temps. The point is once a pass a certain level (seems to be about 160) while I did say "once you get KI's you are done" I sould have said "Once you predominately get KI's you are done". Also you don't specifically need big chests to drop for good Dark rings, I got a MDT PDT -5% ring from a little box, and Ive had plenty of **** dark rings from big boxes. It is luck based, all that big chests show is that you have crossed the a tier allowing you o receive the best possible rewards, but they can drop in any size chest.
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This thread reminds me of how much I've come to **** hate tower shields.
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dont max your lights. You only need to get to a certain point before maxing them. You don't want to many Blue chest dropping blocking your amber chests, and vice versa. I personally take my amber to 120, and my azure to 128. It will be adjusted as I go, if I am in excess time ill push up amber 1-2 notches (136) and if I am running low on time ill push azure up 1-2 notches (144). Once I start getting KI's I will go outside and reset my lights.

Ideally your post light building should look close to this (assuming you have the abyssites for chest drops of course if not each one you miss will mean you need to "cap" slightly higher. But no where near the actual Cap).

Amber: 120
Azure: 128
Ruby : 96
Pearl: Working to Cap (230)

The only light you want capped is pearl, the other 2 ones are control variables if you have high amber, gold chests will drop slightly more often, if you have more azure blue chests will drop more often.

Ruby is set 96 is about as high as you can go before you euchre yourself and start getting gold/silver/ebon very frequently.

your "cap" is not getting KI's in chests, this means your chests will be something you can use or sell, win win. Once you get KI's you are done, and should reset your lights, then go again.


Unless you're killing slow, "ideally," your post lights should look like this:

Ruby: 0
Azure: 128
Amber: 255
Pearl: 115+

Now, you may have to adjust those values depending on what job you go on, but since we're talking about ideal situations, having no ruby is ideal, having just enough azure to get TE's is ideal, and having the frequency of gold chests above all other chests is ideal.

I'm not sure why you reset your lights when you start getting KI's O_o. The big gold chests will have KI's in them at the same point that refresh +1 hairpins start to appear. Increasing amber lights has nothing to do with the frequency of KI's over any other amber chest drop. KI's simply replace the rare pop items from the smaller gold chests. For instance, when I was farming sisyphus fragments, they will never drop from the big gold chests. The big gold chests replace the rare pop items, such as jaculus wings, sis frags, etc. with KI's. In the highlands specifically, the KI's will replace the pop items for the lower tier NMs (the eft, funguar, etc.). Therefore, KI's have no effect on the frequency of "powerful items."

I would agree with the VNM sentiment to a point. I think it depends on what job you go on. If you're planning on AoEing mobs, then you're better off getting pearl from the VNMs. If you're going to be killing the mobs one at a time, then by all means, get pearl off them instead.
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Unless you're killing slow, "ideally," your post lights should look like this:

Ruby: 0
Azure: 128
Amber: 255
Pearl: 115+


again how many jobs are capable of realistic pearl, realistic amber, and azure. I can think of 2 off my head (RDM and BLU). All other jobs either need someone to administer the proper killing blow, or do it in a time consuming way ( a blm for instance trying to kill shot pearl, or a nin or /nin trying to kill shot azure.)

Since I have both RDM and DNC at 90, and my DNC gets to top teir dark rings faster (without capping anything at 255) Id say you list applies to a very limited crowd, 2-3 jobs (SMN I think can pearl and azure at will, and amber) can do this pretty easily. The majority of jobs (read straight DD, NIN/DNC/WAR/SAM/MNK/THF/DRG/DRK etc etc) can not hope to achieve the needed lights to have a successful farm. (unless you don't need azure and are just trying to net a few rings, at a chance of a great one).

You do not need to hard cap any lights, and once Azure and Amber are both over Ruby, then you see limited red chests.

Your pattern is good for the minority, mine is good for the majority.


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I've noted this in the blm forums before but i'll put it here as well.

I farmed my dark rings (and yesterday my refresh hairpin) on Black Mage/Scholar. And I had capped Amber, Pearl, and Azure (and some Ruby). By the time I was done I had capped Silver and 120ish Ebon.

This method requires Vidohunir, the mythic BLM WS. Also while building Amber, put away all your staves except your Aquilos/Varunas and the grip of your choice (I used Ossa Grip). This prevents you from losing TP to an accidental macro swap.

The order I do my lights are: 64-96 Ruby, cap Amber, get 130-160 pearl.

Then I go on a killing spree which obviously will cap Azure since i'm on blm.

For Amber and Ruby, I use Sea Daughter, Cosmos, and Beyond atmas. I go to where the Treants are and find the Ephemeral Limule that is roaming there. I hit it w/ Blizz V and Blizzard I or II until it's at 5% or so. By then I have regained TP and hit it with Retribution. As you may or may not know, Ephemeral Limules give either 16, 32, 64, or 128 Ruby if killed for Ruby. If I kill and get 128, I zone out and try again. 64 is the target amount, but up to 96 is fine. As long as I don't get 128 i'm fine.

Next I work on Treants and the Pavan that is also in the area. For Pavan, Blizz V usually one shots him, so I hit him with Blizzard IV and blizzard I if necessary. Since he tends to resist Vidohunir, I try to get him down to 2% before I use Vidohunir. Upon a successful amber kill you will get 16, 32, 64, or 128 Amber. For the Treants, just wait until you have about 80% TP then blast one with Blizzard V. If you get the Treant down to 25-30% HP, you should be able to kill it with Vidohunir for 16 Amber. Proceed until Amber is capped.

The reason I cap Amber is because since i'm going to be capping Azure anyway, I want the gold chests to appear at a decent rate. Also as mentioned before, the NQ pop items are replaced by KI and are of the same frequency. (Btw for those who don't know, every mob in Abyssea - Konschtat will give you azure)

Once Amber is capped I switch to normal BLM atmas - Minikin Monstrosity, Beyond, and Ultimate (ensuring I have RR up from my /sch subjob). Then I run around hunting VNM until have about 130 Pearl light. My kill method basically is pop, Blizzard V, Water, and melee it down. Once in a while i'll get a set proc and one shot it, but what can you do. Obviously i'm also opening up red pearl chests and ruby chests if i'm not up to the 64-96 ruby range.

After I reach the desired pearl count, I then begin my killing spree with forbidden keys in hand. I usually kill the puddings near Fistule because they take enhanced magic damage, can be aspir'd, and the fact they stop to cast is an advantage. Use Sublimation on /sch, and use Parsimony/Bliz V when the strategems are up. When you get an Intense Soothing Light blue chest, pop manafont and the chest for some free quick kills. If you're capped on xp (and who isn't nowadays), you can also pop ebon and silver chests. Use pearl from red chests to eventually cap out your pearl. Once my pearl was capped I actually popped an intense ruby chest to bring myself up to 140 ruby on my last farming session. Once you're at or past 128 ruby, all red chests are gold/silver/ebon. My logic is the red chests are going to drop from time to time anyway and as long as ruby is lower than amber/azure, they won't be too frequent. So why not have lights that can be actually useful (By eyeballing yesterday i'd say I got 1 red chest every 8 kills).

After about 3 hours worth of breaks (and 10 hours in the zone) yesterday, I walked out with 600k worth of dark rings/tower shields/phrygian ores, and a refresh hairpin. Previous farming sessions yielded me my 2 keeper dark rings - 1 with -6% PDT, -5% MDT, -3% BDT, and the other with -5% PDT, -6% MDT, -3% BDT. I also have 2 dark rings in my MH that have -6% PDT and -6% MDT respectively.

It's all luck of course. The best you can do is tailor your lights and kill speed and keep trying. The awesome augments do exist I promise.
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again how many jobs are capable of realistic pearl, realistic amber, and azure. I can think of 2 off my head (RDM and BLU). All other jobs either need someone to administer the proper killing blow, or do it in a time consuming way ( a blm for instance trying to kill shot pearl, or a nin or /nin trying to kill shot azure.)

Since I have both RDM and DNC at 90, and my DNC gets to top teir dark rings faster (without capping anything at 255) Id say you list applies to a very limited crowd, 2-3 jobs (SMN I think can pearl and azure at will, and amber) can do this pretty easily. The majority of jobs (read straight DD, NIN/DNC/WAR/SAM/MNK/THF/DRG/DRK etc etc) can not hope to achieve the needed lights to have a successful farm.


Nah NIN does very well on all lights, Azure included. My nuking gear (no +2 hands), Futae, standard RR/GH/Apoc (read: no nuking atma), full Hyoton/potency merits, no Innin, no temps:

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...is the best screenshot I could find - it's nothing spectacular but it's enough for building Azure.
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#35 Aug 14 2011 at 2:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Solrain wrote:
Nah NIN does very well on all lights, Azure included. My nuking gear (no +2 hands), Futae, standard RR/GH/Apoc (read: no nuking atma), full Hyoton/potency merits, no Innin, no temps:

What is your nuke rig, out of curiosity?
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jlejeune wrote:
Solrain wrote:
Nah NIN does very well on all lights, Azure included. My nuking gear (no +2 hands), Futae, standard RR/GH/Apoc (read: no nuking atma), full Hyoton/potency merits, no Innin, no temps:

What is your nuke rig, out of curiosity?


Nothing all that close to spectacular. That's by no means any sort of an average for me (actually not even sure how the **** I hit that, although I don't really document my nukes as much as I should) but there was no fanciness involved. I did have the INT cruor buff active though, mostly because I'm lazy and usually pick all to save time Smiley: lol.
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I don't know if it has been mentioned but whm can do azure/amber/pearl pretty well (atleast in konschat highslands). Thats how I got my wivre hairpin. My whm is by no means really geared for much besides healing and I was able to cap amber/ azure and start working on pearl when i got it (I think I had 60 minutes left). I would basically go to flux 6 w/ my Cata atmas (SD , Cosmos, Ultimate) and kill Pavan / The clionid for amber and azure and try to pearl extra leeches. I used my pdt set, phalanx, viel, ice spikes, and refresh.

Once I was done w/ that I went to the licorices nearby and would kill those since Cata does extra damage. The only issue with that is Guimave, however whm can solo it fine and people like to pick it up for fistule. I didn't gear for pearl because my thf friend was coming to help for a bit, but as she got 1 pearl kill I got the hairpin. However whm can switch to melee atmas and pearl some stuff fine I'd assume.

Edited, Aug 14th 2011 10:46am by Dantedmc
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After 7+5 hours farming in Konschtat in these 2 days with my BLU. I'm not that convenient having my azure stuck at 128 and amber not maxed. After I maxed azure and amber, I found myself self-sufficient having enough TE chests popping.

On related note, clionids are a bit hard to pearl than other mobs, aren't they? I've got no luck with refresh hairpin and no good enough Dark ring for me (best was PDT-6%, breath-3%, 5% spell interruption).

I'm going to try raising my ebon more next time I try. Any suggestion an easy way for raising ebon? I'm trying to track T1 VNM by having both colorful and clear demilune abyssite at the same time, but it seems that it always give message on that the colorful one resonating, even though it's tracking the T1. Or did I see wrong?
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I'm going to try raising my ebon more next time I try. Any suggestion an easy way for raising ebon? I'm trying to track T1 VNM by having both colorful and clear demilune abyssite at the same time, but it seems that it always give message on that the colorful one resonating, even though it's tracking the T1. Or did I see wrong?


you will always see the highest tier abyssite in the message if you have more then one. The key is the strength of light. That will tell you what you are tracking.
Tier 1 = feeble
Tier 2 = softly
Tier 3 = solidly
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NIN can build all lights perfectly fine, even without a good nuking set. Get the mobs low and hyoton them for the finishing blow..

I don't think getting ruby is ever worth it, getting red chests after you cap lights(doesn't take long) really sucks :( T1 VNM's for pearl might be faster, or equal to slaughtering mobs, not sure. Sometimes pearl can be really random, 100% chance > random chance unless the t1's are allllllll spread out, but they're usually all close together.

Edited, Aug 14th 2011 7:27pm by ShiyoKozuki
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Peimei wrote:
VZX wrote:


I'm going to try raising my ebon more next time I try. Any suggestion an easy way for raising ebon? I'm trying to track T1 VNM by having both colorful and clear demilune abyssite at the same time, but it seems that it always give message on that the colorful one resonating, even though it's tracking the T1. Or did I see wrong?


you will always see the highest tier abyssite in the message if you have more then one. The key is the strength of light. That will tell you what you are tracking.
Tier 1 = feeble
Tier 2 = softly
Tier 3 = solidly

Thanks for reminding me about the resonating power. I know I was missing something.
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#42 Aug 15 2011 at 1:06 AM Rating: Good
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VNMs in Abyssea spawn in a specific place, and follow a specific path that may or may not branch; for example, in Konschtat they spawn to the northeast of conflux 1 and travel west, north past conflux 2, then either head east towards conflux 4, or north towards conflux 6; in Misareaux, they spawn to the east of Conflux 0 and head west, choosing to either continue west and end up with the clusters, or north towards the bridge.

Knowing this path makes farming VNMs much, much easier; in Konschtat, start at conflux 4 and head northwest towards 6, then due south to conflux 2, killing as you go. Once you get that far, head south into the pass and a little east. This location is a natural choke point, as every VNM that spawns passes through it, and popping them is quite easy as they cannot skirt around you. All you have to do is spam /heal in the middle of the path once they get to within 20' or so.

Any job that can kill a t1 VNM faster than they repop (ergo, every job) can cap their pearl in ~30 minutes easily using this method.

As for Azure/Amber, both malboros and treants drop 16 of each per kill; a Pavan also roams the area, as well as both Ephemerals, making it a good place to cap those lights quickly. The Tonberry Bedeviler camp is just as good with Pavan/Ephemerals and the same enhanced lights, but my Rancor Collar/Whisker farming-induced astronomical tonberry hate makes it pretty dangerous.

All said, as BLU I capped pearl/amber/azure within ~45 minutes on average using these methods; your mileage may, of course, vary.

Edited, Aug 15th 2011 3:11am by LyltiaofLakshmi
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@Lyltia: I'll be trying that method later this week, seeing as how slaughtering mobs isn't building pearl fast enough when I'm still missing two of the three Abyssites that help with building pearl.
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