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#52 Mar 29 2012 at 3:54 AM Rating: Default
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svlyons wrote:
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Just a quick t(^.^t) to SE for nerfing Yuly and Falcor's TH. Like THF's TH7 (or 8 in abyssea) wasn't good enough.

At least you still have a pet that @#%^ing HAS TH. If I farm on pup, I can't let my pet fight on its own if I want to benefit from TH, which really slows me down.

All you have to do is wear an augmented Taru sash and get on the hate list with a single action. You now have as much TH as Yuly or Falcorr without having to sub THF.


that was kind of my point, because pup doesn't have much in the way of native getting-on-the-hate-list abilities, aside from running up and punching something, which defeats the purpose of me running one way and my pet running the other to kill two mobs, especially since if I'm farming, I'm gonna sub /thf, which means I still have no ranged getting-on-the-hate-list abilities. I can get on the hate list, it just takes annoying, convoluted methods to do it that slow me down and defeat the entire purpose of letting my pet fight a different mob in the first place.
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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

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#53 Mar 29 2012 at 6:04 AM Rating: Good
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Lady Jinte wrote:

At least you still have a pet that @#%^ing HAS TH. If I farm on pup, I can't let my pet fight on its own if I want to benefit from TH, which really slows me down.


The Lamiabane is fairly easy to get, and is a ranged weapon all jobs can use. I forget if a PUP can switch out the animator or not, but there is a ranged weapon if it can be done.

There is a laundry list of things a BST would LOVE to do that a PUP can do (have a reliable magic casting pet, have more control over your pet, have a healer). Lets not forget that pretty much 17.5 other jobs would LOVE even the opportunity to fight two things at once with a pet (SMN is .5 cause SMN melee is rough), let alone using TH (because when farming, doubling killspeed >>>>>>>> TH). Are you really ******** about such a trivial thing as "punch once to land TH then move on to the next mob?" Seriously, is it THAT difficult? It MAY take you 5 seconds. sh*t, THFs had to tag 10-20 mobs in ye olde Dynamis, typically while pulling.

And "defeat the entire purpose of letting my pet fight a different mob in the first place"? Really? To farm anything thats worth it, it may take your pet 30-60 seconds to kill mob A, and 30-60 seconds for you to kill mob B. Are you honestly saying that doubling / nearly doubling your kill speed is negated by having to punch a mob once? Dont be so melodramatic.

I dont farm much on BST anymore, as I now have THF and a second account that can heal. Still, it was retarded of SE to nerf the TH on those pets. There are no THFs out there complaining about TH2 on a pet, especially if that pet cant add TH via melee hits like a THF can. There was no reason to waste energy on this when there is so many other things that need to be addressed. For example, instead of spending pointless time removing TH from BST pets, spend that time programming in the tier V BLM spells for SMN's elementals.

Edited, Mar 29th 2012 9:18am by ManifestOfKujata
#55 Mar 29 2012 at 1:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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I see they were quick to nerf Yuly and Falcorr's TH, but aren't being so quick to add the Pet: TH gear they mentioned. Just like it's always easier to get a bill than a refund.
#56 Mar 29 2012 at 4:05 PM Rating: Good
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Camiie wrote:
I see they were quick to nerf Yuly and Falcorr's TH, but aren't being so quick to add the Pet: TH gear they mentioned. Just like it's always easier to get a bill than a refund.


I'm still waiting for the scythe mastery we were promised for 5 years ago.
#57 Mar 29 2012 at 4:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lady Jinte wrote:
that was kind of my point, because pup doesn't have much in the way of native getting-on-the-hate-list abilities, aside from running up and punching something, which defeats the purpose of me running one way and my pet running the other to kill two mobs, especially since if I'm farming, I'm gonna sub /thf, which means I still have no ranged getting-on-the-hate-list abilities. I can get on the hate list, it just takes annoying, convoluted methods to do it that slow me down and defeat the entire purpose of letting my pet fight a different mob in the first place.

Deploy puts you on the mob's hate list, as long as the puppet atempts a hit/spell/ability on the mob.
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#58 Mar 29 2012 at 5:30 PM Rating: Default
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I don't think being put on hate list is enough to apply TH; you probably have to actually perform an action on the mob. Not sure if Deploy counts there.
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it is a single melee strike, I don't know why you can't do that, **** you /THF anyway if you wear the Taru sash you have TH+3, and only need to hit the mob 1 time.

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#60 Mar 29 2012 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Ah, if a direct action is needed then I can see what you're getting at.

Still though, is your puppet really soloing mobs from 100% down to 0% that often?
On pretty much every mob, I just wait for the puppet to proc, then I send it to start trying to proc the next mob, and end up finishing the first mob myself, since I can finish the mob much faster with a Smite/Pummel/Spiral.
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#61 Mar 29 2012 at 7:14 PM Rating: Good
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Lady Jinte wrote:
svlyons wrote:
Lady Jinte wrote:
SingBismark wrote:
Just a quick t(^.^t) to SE for nerfing Yuly and Falcor's TH. Like THF's TH7 (or 8 in abyssea) wasn't good enough.

At least you still have a pet that @#%^ing HAS TH. If I farm on pup, I can't let my pet fight on its own if I want to benefit from TH, which really slows me down.

All you have to do is wear an augmented Taru sash and get on the hate list with a single action. You now have as much TH as Yuly or Falcorr without having to sub THF.

that was kind of my point, because pup doesn't have much in the way of native getting-on-the-hate-list abilities, aside from running up and punching something, which defeats the purpose of me running one way and my pet running the other to kill two mobs

Do you do that in Dynamis? Cuz that's a sure fire way to get on everyone's hate list. ;-)
#62 Mar 30 2012 at 5:04 AM Rating: Good
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I'm still waiting for the scythe mastery we were promised for 5 years ago.



They still support secondary weapons for jobs?

Edited, Mar 30th 2012 7:08am by Camiie
#63 Mar 30 2012 at 11:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Camiie wrote:
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I'm still waiting for the scythe mastery we were promised for 5 years ago.

They still support secondary weapons for jobs?
Edited, Mar 30th 2012 7:08am by Camiie

DRKs are probably wondering if there is still support for primary weapons.
#64 Mar 30 2012 at 3:55 PM Rating: Default
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ManifestOfKujata wrote:
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Are you really ******** about such a trivial thing

I thought it was pretty obvious that I was ******** purely for the sake of ******** Smiley: dubious. Melodrama has always been a big part of my shtick.

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that was kind of my point, because pup doesn't have much in the way of native getting-on-the-hate-list abilities, aside from running up and punching something, which defeats the purpose of me running one way and my pet running the other to kill two mobs, especially since if I'm farming, I'm gonna sub /thf, which means I still have no ranged getting-on-the-hate-list abilities. I can get on the hate list, it just takes annoying, convoluted methods to do it that slow me down and defeat the entire purpose of letting my pet fight a different mob in the first place.

Deploy puts you on the mob's hate list, as long as the puppet atempts a hit/spell/ability on the mob.


mmmm, I'm never sure about that anymore, after the way they @#%^ed with it in an attempt to nerf our hate-free nuking (For those who don't know, now you have to retrieve before the spell finishes in order for only your pet to get any hate, before, spells from the puppet simply didn't put the player on the hate list at all.)


Edited, Mar 30th 2012 4:56pm by Jinte
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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
#65 Mar 30 2012 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
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wow I might use elemental spirits while leveling up at levels they cost 1 point perp - that is actually pretty awesome, let me have "free" avatar (ought to get my carby mitts sometime soon...) for more levels, I can get behind that. Even 1 point over refresh adds up pretty quick
#66 Apr 01 2012 at 2:50 AM Rating: Decent
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So how is everyone enjoying Meteor?! Took them a lot of work to balance that spell...and nobody has it? XD

Guess it's either from higher tiers of Legion or the from the final VW fight they haven't even added yet lol Just as predicted, will be lucky to ever get 6 people to have the spell, let alone for it to be content that should of been discussed by the general population who will never get it.
#67 Apr 01 2012 at 9:03 AM Rating: Good
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If it's from the final VW fight they won't add for a couple weeks, then how do you know it's "just as predicted"? o-O
#68 Apr 02 2012 at 2:14 AM Rating: Good
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Lady Jinte wrote:
KodoReturns wrote:
Lady Jinte wrote:
that was kind of my point, because pup doesn't have much in the way of native getting-on-the-hate-list abilities, aside from running up and punching something, which defeats the purpose of me running one way and my pet running the other to kill two mobs, especially since if I'm farming, I'm gonna sub /thf, which means I still have no ranged getting-on-the-hate-list abilities. I can get on the hate list, it just takes annoying, convoluted methods to do it that slow me down and defeat the entire purpose of letting my pet fight a different mob in the first place.

Deploy puts you on the mob's hate list, as long as the puppet atempts a hit/spell/ability on the mob.


mmmm, I'm never sure about that anymore, after the way they @#%^ed with it in an attempt to nerf our hate-free nuking (For those who don't know, now you have to retrieve before the spell finishes in order for only your pet to get any hate, before, spells from the puppet simply didn't put the player on the hate list at all.)

Edited, Mar 30th 2012 4:56pm by Jinte

And when they nerfed that, they forgot to make puppet actually claim with spells/abilities... wouldn't bother me otherwise but it's damn annoying to sac the puppet to clear TE from bunch of other mobs only to have some random whatever/dnc claim the TE with animated flourish the moment the other mobs have linked on pet.

Edited, Apr 2nd 2012 4:14am by Sharain
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