Farewell, Mog BonanzaFollow

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/24008-10th-Vana-versary-Mog-Bonanza?p=324603#post324603

I was actually looking forward to one too, guess now I can permanently get rid of inactive bonanza mules and no more -10 inventory for marbles. Never won anything over rank 4 either..

... Probably the same reason why the european version of Pokémon Diamond / Pearl / Platinum had a totally non-functional game corner.

I never won anything past rank 5, though, so.

HG/SS (outside of their Japanese versions) got a neutered game corner too, all there is is that stupid Voltorb card game, which you HAVE to play to get coins since you're no longer able to just buy them (since the game is free to play to remove its "gambling" factor)

The whole notion is pretty ridiculous. They might as well ban critical hits and all attacks that aren't 100% accuracy, since those are essentially gambles in Pokemon battles as well.

Political correctness gone wrong yet again, it was only a matter of time till games got seriously affected and here we are again..

Hell im still fed up with clicking yes accept cookies on some sites.......

I don't see how gambling for an in-game item with in-game items can be illegal anyway. Unless, of course, they are planning on making the game @#%^ing FTP with a cash store, which they better @#%^ing not.

Edited, Jun 12th 2012 10:28am by AshOnMyTomatoes

We'll miss him and his two other posts.

I think they already gave up on this game a few of years ago honestly, it's on freefall now. I left 4-5 months ago for a new game and I stop in to check and not only has nothing improved but it's got worse and more depressing since then.. Warning to FFXIV players, this is your future when they release another attempt at making a better MMO (when XIV v2 fails to give them millions of players again).

If they aren't happy with 200k subscribers on XI what possible chance will XIV have when it won't get half that number XD

Bad news for BCNMs. You buy access for a chance at good items. More gambling than the Nomad Bonanza is/was, because tickets to that were free!
Crafting, too, is nothing but gambling.

Me personally, I'd find this hilarious if this happened more in response to Americans bitching about Japanese getting relic/mythics/etc chance at their vanafest event, so SE decides to just cut everyone off.

Can't have nice things etc.

But aren't we able to bet on chocobo races? That's gambling isn't it?

Nomad Mog Bonanza is free. And, you get gil in the game, too. At least I do.

Get out.

People still do casino shouts? I haven't seen one in years.

I really do think they are winding FFXI down now, I think the announcement at Vanafest is going to shock everyone. Everything they have done over the last 2 years has been negative, the roadmaps are crap and lacking in content, they put a failure back in charge of the game (which in JP culture says a lot about XI), V2 is launching soon and they won't want XI to steal any of its thunder.

They are just gonna say ok we are closing this game down, go play XIV. XIV failing shamed them and a sure fire way to make it a success is to close this game down so the lost sheep flock to it. Calling it now.

For someone who doesn't even play the game anymore, you sure seem to love bringing up how you think FFXI's sky is falling. Perhaps you should resub, maybe you'd find the game more fun to play than its forums.

This entire game is gambling were you're at the mercy of the RNG. There's no difference between Mog Bonanza and 99% of the content in the game, you're only buying a ticket with worse odds at something than most of the monsters have. Even the Kraken club BC is like 1% drop rate vs. the .001% chance you get in mog bonanza.

Although you could argue the endgame weapons require a grind since they don't magically appear after killing a random monster, pretty much anything else in the game does though.

If this is true, then it doesn't make any sense at all that SE is expanding the partition requirement for PS2 FFXI.

Unless you think that's SE's way of getting a bunch of PS2 players to quit, and then use the dropping number of subscribers as a financial reason to discontinue FFXI. Given that the partition change was just announced in the last couple of days and that Vanafest happens in less than 2 weeks, there's not enough time for that series of events to occur.

I hardly see that being a sure fire way of making XIV a success, because I doubt that there would be practically any XI'ers, if put in a situation like that where Square Enix pulled the plug just to try and get them to go to XIV, that would accept XIV with open arms. If anything, that would likely drive said players even further away from XIV because of how bitter they'd be because of it. I know that if they pulled the plug on XI simply to try and coax me into playing XIV, then I'd have no desire to play XIV, and I'm certain that I'm not the only one that shares the same sentiment. As for the Tanaka thing, like I said in another topic, where he is now is where he's always been as far as XI. Even when he was the director for XIV, he was still in the exact same position for XI, and it was only the directors that changed for it. The director that we had for XI during the Abyssea days went over to XIV to take over Tanaka's position, and a new director was brought in for XI. Now if Tanaka had taken over as director for XI, then sure, I can see why people would be irritated, but he wasn't, and his position with XI is the exact same as it has always been.

I strongly disagree that everything they've done in the last two years has been negative. Sure, it's not been some of their best work, but I personally don't consider it negative by any means, and roadmaps are meant to be vague so that if new content decisions are made, they can fill that in easily.

Of course, it's all so obvious... Also it explans their Vanafest 2012 banner

Yeah... that makes no sense... FFXI being gone doesn't automatically make FFXIV a fantastic game, you can't just assume people are gonna stay aboard the Square-Enix train, especially given the current situation with FFXIV. Not to mention them ending FFXI on such a note would inspire even more distrust in the company, thus the few people that actually would consider jumping to FFXIV would have second thoughts about doing so.

Not to mention there's the whole PS2 HDD update thing, that Heroine's Tower deal, etc... They're not gonna announce new stuff and then say "by the way, we're shutting down the game."

So many people don't even play FFXI anymore, but still follow the time honored tradition of waiting for new updates so that they can bitch about how this update will be the update that finally kills the game.

Try telling SE that sometime. You'd probably blow their f*cking minds.

Edited, Jun 13th 2012 4:10pm by Raelix

That isn't what it's about, though. The problem is that this is construed as "gambling" at all.

As mentioned above, notice what they've done to the Game Corners (basically, places with slot machines in which you could purchase/win tokens to exchange for prizes) in the Pokemon games starting in the 4th gen. Throughout the 4th gen, for the releases outside of Japan, they gradually got neutered by these abominations before the game corners were left out entirely in Black/White, despite being in every game previous:

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Game_machine
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Voltorb_Flip#Reaction

European legislation against gambling, apparently even depictions of it in video games, is cracking down on this kind of stuff and is cited as the cause.

I can see how the appearance of gambling could attract attention from anti-gambling laws. More and more, people are paying real life money for virtual goods. If you pay money to access the services of a game, partake in gambling type activity, and then are able to sell virtual goods gained from said activity for cash, I could see enough of a case being made just to create a legal situation that has to be dealt with. Even if the game maker stands a good chance of winning the case, it would still cost a lot of time and resources to fight that battle. It's easier to just not put yourself into that situation, especially if the in-game gambling activity really isn't an important part of the overall game.

I'm sure Squeenix didn't want to stop doing bonanzas (I mean, it's an easy cash cow within a cash cow for them, with all the people crazy enough to make/reactivate extra characters and even extra accounts solely for more marbles) so I wouldn't pin the blame on them >_>