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The exp difference is massive between Altepa and Attohwa. I didn't even know there WAS a Mandy Op... interesting.

As for the whole "what's right, what's wrong" here... it's nothing but perspective.
I could care less if people paid for a service rendered regardless the money trail. This isn't real life where funding "the enemy" can hurt you in the long run. With how obscenely easy gil is now prices are inflated because of vendoring, not gil buying.
In 2004 when I first joined, prices were -outrageous- (40k/stack of silk, 7mil for Scorp Harness) because gil sellers commanded the economy through botting all the major HNM's and NM's. They had a hefty grip on the supply and could charge insane prices. People were impatient and spent the cash to short-cut farming for days.
Now? Prices are STILL outrageous but their grip on gear is nil and the ability to make the gil is effortless. If people are STILL unwilling to apply effort for gil, who cares? Doesn't hurt me. I'm not sure what the rates are now but I'm sure whatever it is, spending enough to afford the new gear at 10mil a pop is going to hurt too much to be worth it.

As for the cleaving thing? When I Blu Cleave I do not allow stragglers. If someone comes into my area, I will change my route to end by them and make sure they end up with nothing. I do not share.
However, if they are there first? I leave.
Very few camps are shareable.

Just recognize this and things are fine. Sadly, some groups monopolize areas long terms (Apkallu's, Djinns, and Mandies for sure). Either be better and steal the camp, or accept the loss and find a new one.

Great analogy, I think we all have come across this one time or another. To lose your dignity over mobs/merchandise? Unless it's a physical threat, not worth it(of course grab the merchandise right back and smile). It's probably just my age but I just shake my head these days. When people are taking mobs you were working on but yellow do like Vince says in Pulp Fiction and be cool.

Thank you, I forgot was going by memory ><; thanks!

They should remake Pulp Fiction with Tarus.

the shopping cart analogy is fine in the start. the mobs are NOT the shopping cart. (they are the cereal box w/ the surprise inside, if you really want to insist on that part of analogy which is not useful in current context)

However, there is another side to the analogy. Taking out of someone's cart is rude, but so is guarding a shelf of a specific product and screaming at anyone who tries to purchase one and fighting over who gets to put it in their cart.

This is the same crap which can happen in dynamis. No one would tolerate a small group pulling ALL of a mob type in dyna either.

I had someone doing the same crap to me in attohwa after last update when I wanted to skill up guard on pup.

I was gathering a small group of mandies, and a pld who was also pulling a group (there were 3 groups total on mandies) was attacking my group. Its not like I was pulling alot either. the pld was.

I did chigoes instead because accomplishing my skill up was more importation than punishing the offender. If I'm bored next time, I might pull my blue mage out though :P.

Edited, Aug 27th 2012 9:26am by Xilk

Or he's upgrading a Dynamis relic. There was a group on Bismarck that ran FC parties for a few months straight; they had a guy that wanted a relic weapon, and FC parties are the fastest way to churn up 200 million gil for currency. Certainly faster than farming the coins yourself.

Where your artificial strawman fails is that the OP is shooting arrows 3 at a time at deer and is mad that people came in with mortars and rockets to kill a forest full of deer at the same time.

Join a different army or go to a different forest.

Complaining "you stole my deer" is no longer relevant in FFXI unless it drops something good, and you had it under control but for a mistake/programming failure.

No, the OP isn't mad that people are mortaring dear. He's mad they are specifically targeting the few mobs he pulled off to the side to accomplish his goals then telling him to fvck off.

Nothing is wrong with me. I'm very courteous. For example, I always use my blinkers when I'm changing lanes.

Why are you inferring that I'm not courteous? Keeping a mob claimed to your party is a Final Fantasy 11 law, e.g. non-negotiable.
And gil-sellers (if they are that), are still people/players. I'm as courteous to them as I would be for other players, which is a static courtesy, improved or worsened by any dealings I may have with you.

The other group can claim that they're following #2 as well. They were there first. Someone crashed their camp. They've been disrespected, so they'll disrespect back.

How does this escalation end? Someone involved makes a thread on a message board about it.

I'm 100000% ok with someone taking any mob I have if it's white. I should have kept it claimed. Don't pull more than one mob and get butt hurt if someone kills it. That's asking for injury.

And mostly my question was rhetoric because I'm rather contemptuous of him raging out about his situation. So easily preventable.



Edited, Aug 27th 2012 7:17pm by Artemas