What to buy with all of these Login Points?Follow

So there's *another* Log In Campaign coming up.

Odd.

So, the last one, I managed to use... a little over half of all of my login points.

I bought...

An 880 Stew to finish that last Gobbiebag quest.
Lehko's Summon
Zeid's Summon
13 Seasoning Stones
12 Fossilized Bones
12 Fossilized Fangs

And... that's when I ran out of ideas of what to buy. I might buy a few more Seasoning Stones just in case I lose that fight at Lv95 so I can retry without having to worry about farming the stupid things, but otherwise...

I'm at a total loss of what to do with the rest of the login points. Most of that stuff on the list has to do with various facets of Endgame I've never even heard of, and probably have little chance of ever participating in. There's a Trust Cipher coming up, that I'll nab real quick, but otherwise... lol. I have no idea what to do with the points. Thought of maybe buying those automaton parts and selling them on the AH, maybe.

4500 login points:

500 for whichever new cipher is up
4000 for four frayed sacks of liminality -> x3 chars -> almost 2 stacks of liminal residue -> bazaar for gil

Even with the glut of people selling lims from login points, they're still a better value for gil than sacks of devious dice at twice the points. (Note: mail the sacks BEFORE using them!)

And I thought I was paying attention and didn't miss a day with my mules last time, but my main ended up with 4600 and both mules 4500. So I bought what I needed to finish off a stack of tails in case people needed them for level 95->99 fights, then the rest went to seals. BS and KS are harder to drop these days now that there are four (?) other seals taking up the drop percentages.

If you need plasm, you can get a lot of I/II/III shards and eat them. But now I'm saving up copper vouchers for potential plasm needs. And of course AF3 +2 jewels, which can be mailed from same-account mules, and forgottens for dynamis +2 armor upgrades.

Edited, Apr 9th 2014 7:45am by Elwynbelwyn

This has never been true on my server. Residue would have to sell for at least twice as much as dice to make them worth twice as many login points for a sack (sacks of each are the same, a random amount of 10-20 items). On my server, Dice hover around 20k and Residue around 35k. So dice are a better value for the points.

Purely thinking about gil (obviously not focusing on EX stuff in the campaigns: Trust Ciphers, costumes, seals, etc.):

Popping your own Beastly Shanks (and bringing TH) and selling Savories you get is still easily the best gil. The downsides are that:
(1) It's more work to go actually pop and kill Behemoth (easy solo for any decently geared 99 though) than to just bazaar/AH something.You'll probably want to check the zone first to see if it's relatively empty to not waste time waiting.
(2) You really need some TH for drop rate. I average about 1/5 Savories on THF getting TH10+. (bring Nanaa Mihgo trust if you have to, better than nothing)
(3) Inconsistent, you could get Savory drops back to back or you could get nothing at all for a whole campaign's worth of points. (I use points from 4 characters so I tend to have enough to get a couple drops per campaign, but if you're using a single character you might end up with nothing to show for it, maybe you would prefer more consistent gil than rolling the dice.)
(NOTE: I'm not even counting the gil obtained from killing/mugging Behemoth or selling NPC-able items he drops, for me that averages maybe 40-50k per Behe fight)

Gil per login point breakdown (using going rates on my server, may vary by server):

* Use Beastly Shank to farm Savory (assuming 1/5 drop rate): (4,000,000 gil) / (5000 points) = 800 gil/point
* Use Beastly Shank to farm Savory (even assuming an atrocious 1/10 drop rate with no TH):(4,000,000 gil) / (10000 points) = 400 gil/point
* Dice (average sack of 15): (300,000 gil) / (1000 points) = 300 gil/point
* Residue (average sack of 15): (525,000 gil) / (2000 points) = 262.5 gil/point
* Beastly Shank (bazaar the NQ pop): (250,000 gil) / (1000 points) = 250 gil/point
* AF upgrade items (Beetle Blood, Malboro Fiber, etc.): (200,000 gil AH price, being very generous here) / 2000 points = 100 gil/point
* Forgotten Hope/Thought: (30,000 gil each) / (500 points) = 60 gil/point

Worth noting that AF items are an awful value for your points. If you're able to bazaar the better gil/point items, do that instead. You'll get more money and can just buy the AF items on the AH.

Whenever new buyable items are introduced they're also worth looking at. Prices will tank due to increased supply, but could still be worthwhile especially when they're new to the login campaigns. This update, Ra'kaznar Visage III for 1000 points is introduced. It sells for 1mil on AH on my server now, which would be a whopping 1000 gil/point (and it's AH-able, don't even need to bazaar). Surely the price will drop a lot as people use points on them, but it might still be worth taking a very close look at.

Getting BS/KS/KC etc and doing fights for drops is also potentially good money, but obviously varies wildly. Hey though, you might spend 600 login points on Beastmen's Seals and walk out of Up in Arms with a KClub.

Edited, Apr 9th 2014 2:31pm by Anza

It's possible that on some servers residue might sell for more than 2x as much as dice, which would make them a better points to gil item.That's just never been the case on Phoenix.Good points though that you can mail the sacks to characters. Being able to only hold one shank and not d-box them (trading between characters works fine though) is a bit of a hassle, but one I'm willing to deal with for the nice profits.

I won't pretend to always understand S-E logic for point values, I just remind myself that sometimes their choices are completely crazy (see: Mog Bonanzas where a Ridill was the same Rank 1 as a Mythic...) and accept it for what it is.



I actually tend to start with Trust Ciphers and a healthy amount of SKCs on my main as my top priorities (though I've been working on 100% 109+ AF/Relic for 9 jobs, so I've needed quite a few orbs). But yeah, for any leftover points seals are surely a good call.

AF109 materials are still a choice. They're just not a very good choice when you can use the same amount of points on other items are that worth a lot more gil. Sell 'em and buy your AF109 mats on the AH, with profit left over. AF/Relic reforging materials would make a lot more sense at 1000 points as opposed to 2000, just given the relative values of all of the other Login Campaign rewards.

(I just realized that maybe you meant to say AF+1 materials, the Apollyon/Temenos drops which were a choice in the past. In that case, yeah. Those were a pretty nice way to spend points.)

Edited, Apr 10th 2014 6:30pm by Anza

As long as you have a tolerance for suffering with lousy Dring drop rates ;)

I've moved to popping KB with my savories, and it can be a bit painful giving up a 4mil pop for each failed attempt but I guess I'm in for the long haul now. Just be aware that unless you're reallllly lucky, there will be a lot of failure. If you need gil to improve a lot of other slots (or if a DT- set isn't quite as big of a priority for your jobs/activities), might be more worth it to take the sure money of selling the Savory.

One day I'll join the club... :P /jealous