Live Presentation EventFollow

Yes, why? because they are removing two platforms and they would only do that for two reasons. One being the limitations the bring with it, Two because its simply unsustainable to have a large dev team dedicated to a game that doesn't cover the costs or makes a profit. And the profit part is important.

I left XI when XIV 2.0 came out, I have been considering returning but only depending on what the future holds for XI.

I wasn't surprised by the platform removal, the high hopes of me thinks PS4 but let's face it. When I left the game the average amount of players online at peak time wasn't high and had been slowly dropping. Wouldn't surprise me if they do consider another server merger but maybe that will be the next step.

Who knows, XI is still alive, its going to be alive for another 2 Years if they are considering going Mobile but a little niggle tells me they will switch to the mobile platform due to Apps being easier to develop, maintain and secure when compared to PC.

The thing is, by cutting PS2 completely, that's a good amount of JP subs gone. And I doubt they're gonna be willing to move to PC, especially since SE specifically said there will be no major content updates. Why resub with no guarantee of getting new content? And I know there are a lot "kill the console" people out there but you forgot there's a lot of people who just aren't comfortable playing on a PC and like playing on a console. That right there killed a good amount of subs. Not to mention if they have friends/partners/etc who play on console or even PC that may not want to play anymore. I honestly think they're jumping the gun. I logged this morning and there were 1k players on Asura.

Edited, Mar 19th 2015 10:25am by Littlechaos

They are dropping console support because Nexon does not do console content. There will be an engine overhaul that will only work on PCs. Nexon will bring in some sort of cash shop and the game will go F2P. This has not been officially announced, but the writing is on the wall. It's the only reason to drop them. As these mini expansions are the last FFXI will get there's no upside to dropping them and console support will end after they release. The drop is way too late for anything to get better for the game because of it other than the F2P (P2W?) change-over with Nexon.

Edited, Mar 19th 2015 11:12am by IAmAnsel

I am sorry but I can't fathom not just playing on a computer at this point. I have it on xbox (in fact it is why I bought xbox, so I could play it when I was away from home... should have just bought a laptop like people suggested...) and it looks like s.hi.t and runs like s.hi.t. This is a game that is so wimpy they are planning to put it out on *phones* people - you can get a computer that costs less than an xbox that will run it better.

Anyway, as to why they are dropping consoles - I am sure it has to do with the mobile development, since XI mobile comes out after the consoles are dropped. If phone stuff is going to connect somehow to main client they are going to need to overhaul stuff and it probably can't be done for consoles, or they don't think the number of people playing on consoles justifies the cost of doing it.

SE has the numbers, I am sure they are aware dropping console support will lose them some subs but they clearly think that the equation will work out for them. It is a gamble... I am having trouble imagining the market for FFXI mobile. I mean, if they don't turn it into microtransaction hell, I would be into it for say, crafting while waiting at the doctors office or while watching TV in bed or whatever (honestly it's the only thing I could imagine getting me to max level at a craft some day)... but new players? Maybe they are banking on old ones returning for some causal playtime, but the sub is pretty high for something that won't be getting anymore major updates...

Maybe they are going to see how the other app works out for them in Japan and go from there. Weird to have a FFXIesque app competing with FFXI though. Who knows though. Cell phone culture is well developed in Japan, maybe they are banking on their PS2 users having cell phones, trying the gamemasters game, and being willing to do mobile once XI leaves Ps2.

If you own a computer capable of posting on here you own a computer that can play with the same level of graphics on your xbox... I am so confused why this is even an issue.

It's not so much an issue man. I have two characters, one on Xbox which is my original from the PS2 days and one on my laptop. I enjoy dualboxing, with the Xbox now being axed it takes that away from me. Now I could just play one and retire the other, but with no new content being delivered there'd be no reason to focus progress on just one. Having two characters allows me to do some content a little easier and it makes it more enjoyable for me to have two characters. I could dualbox on the laptop but it's hard for me to toggle between screens

There's a FFXI screen switcher program you can download. I use a usb 360 controller and map it to the right stick click.

Actually, you're right... looks like they will shift FFXI to mobile, which explains the dropping of the PS2 and Xbox.

Kind of odd that they're moving it to mobile while also halting expansion content.

Easy way to get the title of first MMMRPG...which will also be a complete FFXI Game...a great main story, intriguing side content, lots of different timed battle content, hundreds of hours of filler stuff, 20 classes to master, hundreds of unique items to collect, a dozen different crafting skills available to make yourself unique equipment, medicine, and food.

Change Game to be entirely solo friendly.
Greatly reduce special item requirements (R/M/E etc) - Remove Gil essentially as an economic factor outside of NPC shops and AH trading)
Greatly reduce content requirements (in terms of players required)


Slap on a cash shop.

Buy unique Trust (anything not available through normal game means)
Buy unique Weapons and Gear (anything available from special events ie. Christmas)
Buy Copper ANAM (or w/e those seals are you trade for various content points from ROE dudes.)
Buy unique Monstrosities (anything not available in the game currently)
Buy Gil (because legal RMT is best RMT!)
Buy Content Entry Tokens (such as Assault Tags, Void Stones, Abyssea Stones, ETC)

Keep AH as a central trade hub, using Gil as a commodity.

FFXI is already well suited to be a mobile game.
Lots of time sync requires continues play, and more exposure to the draw of fast tracking via cash shop.
Lots of time based events like other mobile games you can only do X activity so many times per day/hour.
Lots of time based fights, only have 20 minutes do a BCNM or something on lunch break.
Lots of short, or long duration activities for character progression.

Its actually a really good move from a marketability sense, and Ill totally play the **** out of it on my phone or tablet...or Vita (one can hope!) well as long as I can take my current account and carry it over to the mobile version...because seriously **** doing all that again.

Edited, Mar 19th 2015 6:19pm by rdmcandie

Reading a few more articles, I'm betting the FFXI mobile version WILL be a different game than the actual FFXI. It's going to feature a different interface and a faster battle system -- how would that be reconciled with the current game, which is slower and more deliberate? Also, the mobile version is going to launch first in Japan and South Korea. Again, I don't see how this could be the SAME game seeing as how FFXI servers are open to all timezones.

Should be interesting; maybe SE will let players port their characters to the new mobile client?

For those of us who play DPS jobs on FFXIV, that would give us something to do while waiting on the duty finder.

The slower, more deliberate version of the game would be more suited to a mobile environment. Lag is a major problem in fast paced content, as XIV people can attest. Slower combat doesn't have that problem.

I interpreted it as a new user interface and new TOUCH mechanics as part of the user interface, not new combat mechanics. On a cell phone, you're going to have less screen real estate so placement of touch buttons is critical.

XI was designed to run on 640x480, but some phones are actually capable of rendering higher than that. The text will be too tiny to read, though. So the UI will have to be adjusted to make text and menus easier to touch and read.

As for why the game is launching in Japan and SK first.... translation. A Japanese team developed it, a Korean team is porting it. They'll have translations of all the text for Korean done as they port. They'll probably wait until they've tested it out in those markets before loading or porting the existing English text version.

I'm a xbox player as well that originally started on ps2. I like playing games on consoles. Even knowing how many cheats PC players get when playing over me, I still prefer to play on my 360. Even though I have only logged in long enough to get updates for the past few months, I still keep my subscription active. But I think I will cancel it at the end of this month (I've already been billed for this one). I have been playing for 10 years now (with a few breaks here and there). This will be my final break, but not at my choice.

Just no point in paying any more if the game is going offline for people like me.

I will honestly and truly miss the game. This is my first MMO as well as the only one I have ever played. It will also, now, be my last one.


I'll spend this month visiting spots I loved, taking screens so I have them, then canceling.

Fare well everyone.

Yeaaa.....There are no "back end" reasons preventing this from occurring. Don't confuse the willingness to do something with the capability of doing something. People have been creating fictional physical limitations for FFXI since its creation.