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How to make 1mil a day as a level one? I'll tell you howFollow

#1 Nov 11 2005 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
I just recently quit the game and I'm never coming back. So as a parting gift to help those newbies out there that need some gil I'm going to tell you how I made my fortunes. I used the below method to get all my gear from level 20'ish, when I figured it out, to when I quit at 73.

To start off you will not be crafting anything, you will not have to farm anything, you will not have to camp a single NM, you won't have to mine or harvest, you will not have to fish at all.

What is it you ask? Easy farming the six quested ninjitsu scrolls over and over again. For those really new these are:

Tonko: Ichi
Utsusemi: Ichi
Kurayami: Ichi
Dokumori: Ichi
Hojo: Ichi
Jubaku: Ichi

Now there is one catch to this, fame. You’re going to need about a 400k investment up front. This is a one-time thing for the first run. For any subsequent runs if you save at least 400k from what you make from doing this, then you won't have to worry about it again. As how to make 400k that's up to you. I personally fished up rusty caps way back when but times have changed.

You can lower the cost by doing some things yourself but to me it was never really worth it. As most of you know you can turn in zinc ore or yag necklaces for norg fame. I went with zinc ore since it takes less so it's quicker. You will need to purchase, or mine if you want to waste hours and hours, exactly 105 zinc ores. No less.

What I would do was start a galken mule in bastok (THF for the 2hr). I'm not sure if race effects fame I've heard it does but never seen any proof so not sure if 105 zincs will work for say, an elvaan mule. Never the less I'd go with a Galka. If you have a Bastoken Aketon send it to your mule along with 400k. You'll be doing a lot of running around town and every little bit of speed helps.



With that 400k you will need to buy:

Airship pass (148,000)
105 zinc ores (108,440)
2 stacks of Prism Powder (20,000)
2 stacks of Silent Oil (42,000)
10 Rusty Subligar (43,600)
10 Rusty Leggings (9,000)
1 Silver Beastcoin (1,000)
1 Damp Scroll (30,000)
Teleports, & misc. expenses (2k)

Then on this new mule you might want to make a few macros, I used the following:

/item "Silver Beastcoin" <t>
/item "Damp Scroll" <t>
/item "Silent Oil" <me>
/item "Prism Powder" <me>
/ja "Perfect Dodge" <me>
/map

Only buy zinc at first since you'll need so many you should keep your inventory clear. Also the price listed is what I paid a month ago on bahamut before I quit. The prices were actually a little less but I always sent more just to be sure I had gil on hand. Prices may have changed in a month so who knows if this even works now, but I'm assuming prices are about the same. Also you can save gil if you want to spend more time, by crafting oils and powders, mining the zinc, fishing up the damp scroll, and fishing up the rusty equipment. But you don't have to if you don't want to; again for me I was looking to do it as quickly as possible.

First go talk to Talib in the warehouse in port bastok (F-6). After the cut scene trade him one zinc ore and then go talk to Parraggoh in bastok mines, lower level, first house on the left going towards the alchemy guild. Get the bronze knife then promptly throw it away. Now you can go back to Talib and start trading in zinc for fame, 4 at a time. That's 26 trades in all. After that you will have the fame needed to start the first three quests, doing those nets you enough fame to do the last three. Now go buy your other supplies.

Some of this you will not be able to get in bastok like the airship pass, and maybe the damp scroll. Use your main or another mule to check other AH's for deals. Sandy usually has cheaper zinc then bastok. Being that sandy has no GS guild, and people are always mining up zinc ore in the grotto, it usually sells cheaper. Also I'm guessing when the X-Box 360 comes out a lot of the new players will be mining for zinc so the price may plummet. You will be doing a lot of sending back and forth so get used to it.

Ok so now you have all your items in that list save for the airship pass, where do you get that? Jeuno of course, so we are going to take our level one mule to jeuno. I've found the best path to do this and if your decent at avoiding mobs you should never get any aggro. And you won't have to use any of your oils or powders.

First set your HP at the markets exit, then run through S.Gusta to N.Gusta and set your HP in N.Gusta. Again so if you do die you won't have to backtrack a whole bunch. After N.Gusta go to Konschtat then head to Valkurm. You don't want to go through the marsh even if it's faster, most mobs there are sound aggro and much harder to avoid. Besides your going to need to pick up the Holla gate crystal for a short cut later.

So go from Valkurm and set you HP, then go to La Theine and grab your Holla Gate Crystal, then head through Jugner and then through Batallia to Jeuno. Set your HP along they way whenever you can. And find some maps online for the quickest routes.

In Jeuno set your HP in the lower Jeuno mog house by switching jobs from then back to THF. And leave your HP there do not change it again, I'll tell you why later. Head to port Jeuno and to the Kazham air travel place. Purchase your airship pass for 148k then head to Kazham.

Now the fun part, run to norg with out dying using those powders and oils you purchased. It's actually pretty easy if you know the quickest way. Once you reach norg start the Tonko Quest w/ Keal (H-8). Then turn in your rusty leggings to Heizo (H-7) for your Dokumori scroll. Then turn in your rusty subligars to Heiji (I-7) for your Kurayami scroll.

Now leave norg and hug your right wall all the way to the key item room, find the "Iron Box" get the key item turn around and just hug your left wall back to norg. Talk to Keal again for your tonko scroll.

Now you have enough fame to finish the other three quests. You are going to want to do Utsusemi first, so talk to Laisrean (H-7) to start the Quest. Then talk to Washu, first room on the left up the stairs to start the Hojo Quest. Finally talk to Shivivi (J-8), who is roaming the upstairs hall, to start the Jubaku Quest (you need the damp scroll in your inventory to start the quest).

If you need maps for the SSG you can find them at FFXI Atlas (Or click here)

To get to the key item are for the Utsusemi quest, just follow the directions linked and/or use that map for reference. Once you have the key item instead of returning to Laisrean for the scroll, exit SSG out to Yuhtunga Jungle then head to Yhoator Jungle. You're going to need to find the Opo-Opo Brew. I always took the second most southerly entrance to Yhoator as the brew seemed to spawn the most around that area. Here is map with the possible spawn locations. The ??? for it will spawn in the crook of one of the very large trees. Since it's random this could take the longest time out of anything.

Once you have the brew head back to Norg. Talk to Laisrean for the Utsusemi scroll, then talk to Washu for Hojo scroll. Now exit Norg and kill yourself. If you left your HP in Jeuno it will save a ton of time and oils/powders, since you don't have to trek through jungle back to kazham and ride the airship again. Once you HP to lower jeuno catch a tele-taxi to Holla, again saving yourself a very long walk. From Holla run and set your HP in West Ronfaure. Then run to North Sandy, and set HP again inside and leave it there. Now run to Ghelsba Outpost.

Now in Ghelsba enter the grotto (Hug your left wall), Hope you still have oils and powders as you will need them. Run through the grotto and take exit #3 on This Map. Once in Ft. Ghelsba run to exit marked #4 on This Map. Then head to the hot springs once your in the grotto again, check the ??? to get your Jubaku scroll.

Now exit the hot springs, find an orc and attack it. Since being level one you should die. HP back to north sandy, run to south sandy and send all six scrolls to your main along w/ any leftover gil and items. Now delete the mule and recreate it back in bastok.

And then do these steps over and over again. As best I can remember selling all six scrolls in jeuno grossed 1.4 million last time I did it. Minus the 400k up front, and we are left with one million.


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Now I know this sounds like a lot of work, and it kind of is, but after you memorize all the routes, mob locations, and other small stuff I was able to start in bastok and finish in south sandy in three hours.

The hardest part is finding 105 zinc ores. What I would do is have a couple other mules and send them zinc whenever I found it below 1k, until I had enough zinc to do three runs. That's 315 zinc ores :O. That way I could play and do my own thing like LS events ect, then every third day or so do three runs for 3 million. I've made 10 million in a week easily doing this but that was doing it everyday which is really boring.

One last thing to note, depending on how many people do this that might cause the scroll prices to drop since the market would be flooded. Just depends, but hopefully not everyone will try it and for those that do, if any, it will work out for you.

Hope this helps someone and so long Vana'diel. FFXI was great fun but all good things must end.


#2 Nov 11 2005 at 12:30 PM Rating: Default
hey not that this matters but why are you quitting if you are so good at the game?
#3 Nov 11 2005 at 12:41 PM Rating: Decent
Considering at the fastest possible pace you can go, getting the fame through Zinc Ore for these quests takes 3 hours at minimum, this is incredibly boring and time consuming and all of the scrolls combined is about half a mil on most servers, meaning you have to do it twice, or 8 hours of your day, every day.

Unless you're a hardcore player that does hardly anything else than playing the game, this is not the way to go.

/opinion off
#4 Nov 11 2005 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
I can see it now...

/sea "Norg"
Search found 6 players
Adyle | Rank 1 Bastok | Thf lvl 1
Bdyle | Rank 1 Bastok | Thf lvl 1
Cdyle | Rank 1 Bastok | Thf lvl 1
Ddyle | Rank 1 Bastok | Thf lvl 1
Edyle | Rank 1 Bastok | Thf lvl 1

Yay, now they someone explaining a 100% foolproof way to flood the Scroll market every 3 hours!

/end sarcasm... Smiley: motz
#5 Nov 11 2005 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
Half a mil on most servers? Damn bahamut must have had it good then, because I know it was closer to 1.5mil for all six. And you misunderstand me, if you collect zinc here and there you can turn it in and do all the running around in 3-4 hours, not 8.
#6 Nov 11 2005 at 12:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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To start off you will not be crafting anything, you will not have to farm anything, you will not have to camp a single NM, you won't have to mine or harvest, you will not have to fish at all.



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You’re going to need about a 400k investment up front.



umm..
#7 Nov 11 2005 at 12:52 PM Rating: Default
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If you didn't have to delete and remake the character and get the fame again each time I wouldn't mind so much, but it takes a bit to get a new character made.
#8 Nov 11 2005 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Half a mil on most servers? Damn bahamut must have had it good then, because I know it was closer to 1.5mil for all six. And you misunderstand me, if you collect zinc here and there you can turn it in and do all the running around in 3-4 hours, not 8.


Not when the Bastok AH runs out of Zinc Ore and you have to wait for it to restock, with competition ._.
#9 Nov 11 2005 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
Check sandy's AH, and that's sort of the the reason I'd stock up over a couple days. To spread out the time and cost of zinc. Plust if you pay attention you can find over 100 on bastok on just about any given day. Very early like 6am and very late night were good times since it seems most miners dumped their stuff then.

About the remaking thing you can use the same name over and over, I always picked names I could type w/ only my left hand (xxssxxss for example), makes it that much quicker sending things. And every little bit helps to make this feasible.

Edited, Fri Nov 11 13:18:45 2005 by FuneralDancer
#10 Nov 11 2005 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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I agree with XenoLover. Obviously, you are going to have to do something, likely farming, to get 400k.

While I find it nice that you have supplied a detailed account of getting these scrolls (as a level 1 THF, no less), I am extremely against buying items procured via quests. In my opinion, buying quest-obtained items is the quintessential example of laziness. For that reason, I won't sell quest-obtained items to other players. I might go so far as to donate the item to someone I feel is deserving, but there would have to be good cause to do so.

Again, thank you for the thorough account of getting these scrolls easily (once fame is accrued). I will certainly apply these methods when I decide to level Ninja.
#11 Nov 11 2005 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
Ya the 400k thing is a stumbling block, with rusty caps it was pretty easy, even more boring, but easy. Now a days I'm not sure I just kinda assumed with the way the economy is now most people could scrounge up 400k pretty easily. Since the prices on most the items have not changed (some will never like the airship pass), but gil has dramatically increased in the last year is my reasoning.
#12 Nov 11 2005 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
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Anything that makes money is going to take time. When I first started playing, I did something like this with the Warp Scroll quest and usually did it about 2-3 times a day and make a fortune at level 1.

If you think about it, yeah, it's going to take hours to do this, but it also takes hours to farm, craft, hunt NM's, or anything else that makes money.
#13 Nov 11 2005 at 1:09 PM Rating: Good
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I've done this bout 6-7 times. Easy enough to do, if boring. Usually bout 800k profit on my server, and I could do it once a day, provided zinc ore was in stock.
#14 Nov 11 2005 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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If you're gonna spend all that time on scrolls you might as well get all the other quested scrolls as well (except Tele-Yhoat, Tele-Vahzl, and Sleepga 2, as those will require smiting things).
#15 Nov 11 2005 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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In my opinion, buying quest-obtained items is the quintessential example of laziness.


In my opinion, questing items that can be purchased for less than the value of the time spent questing them is the epitome if ignorance.
#16 Nov 11 2005 at 2:02 PM Rating: Default
Ya you could pick up warp 1 since you just need some slime oil and it's in bastok as well. Any other scrolls and I'm not sure if it would be worth the effort/time.
#17 Nov 11 2005 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
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In my opinion, questing items that can be purchased for less than the value of the time spent questing them is the epitome if ignorance.   


Ignorance?

FYI, I quested Tele-Altep, Tele-Mea, Tele-Dem and Tele-Holla all in one day, with minimal effort. Combined, they go for 800K on my server.

Like the guy who posted this, I also was able to quest all the NIN scrolls in a single day. They run for almost 1.5M on my server combined.

I've also quested for Aspir, Drain and Warp. They run for about 450K combined. In fact, the combined time it took me to get all of those was less than my normal playtime on a Sunday. I could easily have done all of the above quests in one weekend day.

That's 2.75M I saved by questing.

Tell me again how that was a waste of time. Please.
#18 Nov 11 2005 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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Mithsavvy wrote:
In my opinion, questing items that can be purchased for less than the value of the time spent questing them is the epitome if ignorance.
For the sake of argument, we will use FuneralDancer's prices for the items involved.

So I understand you, Mithsavvy: your stance is that it is more intelligent to pay 250,000 gil for a Kurayami scroll that would normally cost you A. nothing --OR-- B. 43,600 gil (via buying the subligars)?

The reason I find purchasing quest-obtained items as being lazy is because for many quest-obtained items, you would only be delaying the inevitable by purchasing them. You are "putting off today what you can do tomorrow".

You have to generate fame in this game one way or the other. Performing the quests generates fame. So why not just do the quests? Many are not that time consuming (as the Kurayami scroll seems to be an example), and I dare say 90% are quite easy once you reach a certain level (and/or have friends). As well, the colored belts are a great example of needing to do the quests regardless of purchasing the lesser quest-obtained item.
#19 Nov 11 2005 at 2:22 PM Rating: Good
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Meh. Faster is if Bastok is in 1st. Bastok Mule buys 60 cornettes, sends to new Windy mule. Windy mule turns in cornettes for just under break even. Farm up a 2 leaf mandy bud, buy a bird feather and do prereq quest. Buy a Test Answers for 10-20k and use it in the Aspir quest. You can make 200k/hr doing this, but only when Bastok is in 1st, which they never are.
#20 Nov 11 2005 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I believe the majority of players who buy these items do so not because they are lazy, but because they quested the item and sold it before they really needed it. I've done the Utsu quest on both my characters, and ended up just buying back the scroll a month or so after I sold mine.
#21 Nov 11 2005 at 2:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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RedCharmane wrote:
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In my opinion, questing items that can be purchased for less than the value of the time spent questing them is the epitome if ignorance.


Ignorance?

FYI, I quested Tele-Altep, Tele-Mea, Tele-Dem and Tele-Holla all in one day, with minimal effort. Combined, they go for 800K on my server.

Like the guy who posted this, I also was able to quest all the NIN scrolls in a single day. They run for almost 1.5M on my server combined.

I've also quested for Aspir, Drain and Warp. They run for about 450K combined. In fact, the combined time it took me to get all of those was less than my normal playtime on a Sunday. I could easily have done all of the above quests in one weekend day.

That's 2.75M I saved by questing.

Tell me again how that was a waste of time. Please.


I think we can all agree that that depends entirely on how much/little free time and/or gil the person in question has on their hands. And admit it... there are some people out there whose time is worth quite a bit of gil per hour when they shoulder into moneymaking mode...
#22 Nov 11 2005 at 2:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think we can all agree that that depends entirely on how much/little free time and/or gil the person in question has on their hands. And admit it... there are some people out there whose time is worth quite a bit of gil per hour when they shoulder into moneymaking mode...


Well, as a single parent who has very little free time to play, I can tell you I would certainly rather quest for everything I can than just pay for it. Especially since you're going to want fame anyway to get the avatar quests, to get all the MH expansion quests (in your hometown) and gobbie bag quests. To get some of the map quests, like Northlands in Sandy. You're going to want fame anyway. Now, maybe some of you like running around without maps and getting lost or missing out on avatar runs because you can't get the tuning fork or just have an insane amount of gil on your hands and don't mind blowing 200-800K here or there on a scroll. Me? I'll do the quests.

Honestly, I do not understand at all how questing for something, especially when it's an easy quest, could be considered a bad thing to do. Aren't we always trying to promote to people that they need to work for what they get? That you need to put effort into getting somewhere in this game? And now we're saying, what, ***** that, just buy it, it's faster?
#23 Nov 11 2005 at 3:00 PM Rating: Good
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Why do all the people who preach "buying gil is illegal and immoral!" seem to think that this is an acceptable method of making gil? Buying gil online is definitely worse since it encourages bots, non-stop camping of NMs and mining points, etc. but both methods are less than admirable.

People like this always argue "it doesn't matter that I used a different character, I'm the one who spent the time doing it" but that is the same argument that gil buyers use when they say they spent the time working at an office to earn the money to buy gil with. The main difference is that one person paid $1 for one million and the person who bought it online paid $20.

There is a reason why these quests are not repeatable. It is a loophole. It is working the system. It is money that your character is not meant to have.

Also, because I know someone will inevitably argue this point - I think that there is a big difference between buying a brand new character every few days to complete these quests and having a crafting mule or having more than one character that you play regularly (i.e. comparable in level and rank) and occasionally sending money from one to the other.
#24 Nov 11 2005 at 3:06 PM Rating: Decent
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i dunno, people forget this is a game i guess. quests are supposed to be 'adventurous' but everyone is in a race to do nothing in this game. people need to slow down, wait, not buy everything on the AH because they cant walk to a shop around the corner, etc.

i mentioned to someone today im going to quest venerer ring (300k on asura). 'id buy that its a long boring quest'. gimme a break. sure if youre a lvl90s crafter and would rather be crafting with your time, but whatever. FFXI IS A GAME.
#25 Nov 11 2005 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
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well i can make 200k in 2 hours questing aspir with a mule, its extremely painfull tho doing exactly the same thing, and having to sit through the same cutscenes time and time again so i dont do it often plus the aspir scrolls take forever to sell.
#26 Nov 11 2005 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
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i think nainz brings up an interesting point.

This is probably why the startup gil (adv. coupon) is so low in value.

Imagine if it was like 1000 gil, it would almost be worthwhile to keep recreating characters just to get thestartup money.

To me these ways of making money do seem to be exploiting the system, like he said, there is a reason these aren't repeatable.
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