The finalfantasy11 LiveJournal community...Follow

For those aware of this community, you may have realized it was recently deleted without reason.

hkr was the community maintainer after being given the job over a year ago when Zodina stepped down.

Below is a conversation I initiated with him on AIM when I realized the community was gone:

This is an unedited screenshot of the AIM conversation should someone wish claim tomfoolery on my end.

Looking now, his journal even lists a copy of our conversation. His goal is drama, and I know I'm just perpetuating it by fighting for the community, but it's also something he didn't create.

I've already contacted LJ's abuse team in hopes of getting it restored and moderation transferred (if not to me, to at least one of their people until a more official body can be determined). And while I could simply start a new community, which we may have to pending LJ team response, I have no means of getting ahold of those alleged 1300 users to get the word out.

So, at most, consider this a heads up.

Wow, his user info says he's a gay furry. ::not surprised::

I'd rather get the old community back, as it seems a few people are trying to create splinter communities already. While I know there were like 50 other communities about the game, none were nearly as active as the one we had and it would be a shame to see it go because somebody had a hissyfit.

Mmmmm.... Drama.

lol @ Gay furry and likes to roleplay.

what a pathetic loser.


"Staticd00r (11:37:15 PM): It wouldn't harm me, but this way I can **** off a bunch of people and watch the ensuing drama for days, laughing at their expense."


i always knew this would happen considering he hasn't even played the game in over a year and was more of a dictator than a mod.

actually, LJ Abuse is pretty good with situations like this.

Wow. You mean to tell me that someone who created an LJ community turned out to be a huge ****** and that they actually enjoy instigating drama in whatever pathetic manner they can manage? I'm shocked.


Not sure why I was rated down for this, but whatever. :)

LiveJournal is where drama is born. <3

Edited, Sep 5th 2006 at 11:42am EDT by senorcoconut

Well, i'm not 100% sure on what really caused this, but there was a report filed to the LJ Abuse Team, over hkr's recent spat of expletive-using, even though his own rules do not permit it. That he wrote it off as his personal perogative as moderator to enforce the expletive rule, and decide what is and isn't enough, was enough to incite this litte member revolt. We expect better of our moderators and admins. They're not supposed to be the same scum as everyone else in the community. They have to hold themselves to higher standards then others, be an example for members, and enforce their own rules, by abiding by them themselves. Not use their position to circumvent their own rules, then subtly imply a ban for anyone who dare argue.

There was also the incident some months ago with the anti-RMT threads. Obviously, it was heated. What hkr did to really get on people's radars, was step into the arguement(Which is fine...), but then he started to enforce his views by banning dissenting voices. A moderator just can't do that. A moderator should feel free to argue with members, but using ban powers to remove anyone he/she does not agree with is clearly out-of-bounds.

Hkr quite simply overstepped his moderator bounds way too many times. Even though he does have godly power in his community as moderator, he shouldn't be untouchable. That there were LJ Abuse Team reports should be clear indication that we wanted to finally hold him accountable for his action. Even though nothing came out of it officially, I would think hkr had a talking to by the Abuse Team, and this prolly prompted the reaction he/she had.

Sadly, deletion of the community was not the goal of the complaint. Hkr needed to step down, and give leadership over to someone else. He/she was clearly not cut out for the job. That he was abusing his own position for his own good should have gotten him removed by the LJ Abuse Team, but that's just how LJ works when it comes to mods, and we can't really change that.

Apologies are definetly in order to everyone effected by this. I'm not sure a complaint would have been lodged, if we had known that hkr would go so far as to wreck the community. Although, given hkr's infamous moderation, maybe it is for the best.

Edit:Fixed a few typos

Edited, Sep 5th 2006 at 12:36pm EDT by Warne

Thanks for the update, I was suprised this morning to only find the feed of Smithy on my LJ. I kind of figured everyone had a really boring weekend!

The above is the response I had received from the LJ team. I'm actually not all that surprised, but it pains me to see how one little spoilsport can bone everyone.

Anyhoo, there was a question about he came into power to begin with. Since I've more or less been there since the beginning, hopefully my recounting of the tale will be at least somewhat accurate.

As I first noted, a player by the name of Zodina created the community. Heck, I think I may've seen her first link to it from the girl_gamers community, but that was roughly three years ago so my memory's hazy. All's going well, the game still being in beta at the time with people excited about release chatting over this-and-thats. I think I may have even given a somewhat bad review of their beta event closure where they'd basically sent everyone to a random HNM, be you level 1 or 60+, where a GM tried to god mode tank.

In the community's early phases, it was jokingly referred to as the unofficial Fairy forum since myself and a number of others were usually the most active. Slowly, as projects like this do, the community eventually snowballed into the juggernaut of FFXI communities on LJ. Note that I didn't say this made us the best, because honestly, I never bothered with the "competition" to compare.

Well, I'd say about 1.5 years into this, a few of the Fairy denizens started developing a beef with Zod. She made the unintentional mistake of posting with primary LJ, and such, there'd be days where these people could be sitting in Jeuno shouting about her personal life or more or less attempting to defame for what I could only gather as no good reason.

I'd talk with her now and then about it, usually trying to be comforting and all that stuff a friend should do, but eventually it all broke her spirit and she wanted to get away from the community, and for a short time, the game. I think her post was something simple like, "Who wants to take over?" and this tool happened to be the one that got the job. There was no real group of mods, just one guy with all the power. Naturally, we can see where that's left us when he finally went rogue in favor his **** buddies.

Up until this point, I hadn't really had much of a problem with him. When he first took over, he'd unbanned a few people that were rightfully cast off during Zod's supervision. One of these troublemakers returned with his old games and I'd actually managed to get him to reinstate the ban without much issue not too long ago.

I'd hear whisps of iron fistedness now and then, but I also know that comes with the territory when I ran a 300 player MU*. Sometimes you will displease people with your decisions, but the goal is to make those decisions for the benefit of the community and not yourself.

In short, I offered this guy an out and he refused. I attempt to go through the proper channels to get his mistake rectified, and it fails. His little **** pity party is probably sitting in their momma's basements laughing their asses off, but I'm content with just smiling inwardly and knowing karma will repay them in kind. It always does.

Meanwhile, the rest of us shall attempt to rebuild. First priority, naturally, is to not leave all the power in one set of hands. The next is to at least recover the bodies we can. While I'm presently aware of two groups that were created in response to this deletion, before I went to bed last night, it sounded like they were just gonna ditch one and focus energy there. Naturally, all of good nature are welcome. Cynics such as myself can even get by, too.

I read over their instructions while filing complaint against Hkr, and their responses to our petitions. Moderators are Gods of Livejournal, unless they break Livejournal's standard set of rules for the site. They really can't do anything for something that isn't specifically a ToS violation, and dumping a community with 1,000+ members isn't in the ToS. No matter how crappy a thing it is to do, and the kind of power abuse trips he went on before this.