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Sleeping Chocobo Riddle - NOT a bugFollow

#1 Sep 09 2006 at 2:59 PM Rating: Good
Ok, so many people, including myself, have had problems with their chocobos never waking up after a day of rest. Well, here's why...

Your chick's energy is based on what it was fed the day before. So if you select rest, you cannot feed it while it's asleep, making it energy-less the following, and therefore it sleeps. However, if you follow the resting day with a basic care day, basic care feeds your chocobo. so it will only be asleep the rest day and the day of basic care (cause u couldnt feed it the day before). But the following day you will be able to feed it because with basic care, they feed it for you. SE did a beautiful job of explaining this.

So, if your choco is in a 5-day coma like mine, set everything to basic care (1 day) and in 2 days it will wake up.
#2 Sep 10 2006 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
O.o; Wow, thanks!

The question is, not why SE didn't explain it, but why it works this way, anyway...=\ You rest it to make it recover energy, but it loses that energy because it doesn't eat, and hence, there doesn't seem to be a good reason to rest the chocobo...

Supposedly, after going through this whole phase, he will actually sleep then WAKE UP when he's supposed to, so...I dunno.

This woke my baby Charisma Avenger up though, and she waddles around like a cute baby boco again. Thanks ^_^
#3 Sep 10 2006 at 10:02 AM Rating: Decent
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They probably didn't explain it..becuase they more then likely wanted you to figure it out yourself, kinda like how I had to figure EVERYTHING out in FFXI during JP release. I know it's not a bug, because I'm very used to raising pets in various games, and choco raising FFXI style is just like in other games. It could have been a very small glitch between the plans that kept it asleep for a bit, but also any growing animal/person needs LOTs of Rest heh. Babies either cry too damn much or sleep too damn much if you think about it :P
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#4 Sep 10 2006 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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Well, people have contacted a GM and they acknowledged that it was a bug. However, most people, including the developers, may have forgotten that chocobos can only be fed while resting if they are put on the basic care plan (So the NPC does it automatically) and so never mentioned to do so.

SO, if you are going to rest your chocobo, set your basic care plan for 1 day, to ensure that your chocobo will be fed while it is resting and will wake up the next day.

Rate up for Raybard; it's not often that a person's first post is so usefully informative.
#5 Sep 10 2006 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, people have contacted a GM and they acknowledged that it was a bug.


So they say, sounded like BS to me.

I figured this wasnt a bug as well for the simple fact that the has told me more then once."Your chocobo seems to be waking up every morning now."

I've never posted anything about it though because anyone who said it wasnt a bug got flamed and rated down into the depths of hell.
#6 Sep 10 2006 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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I might consider this, but you don't need to feed your chocobo at all, regardless of the care plan you choose. Try not feeding it for one day with its care plan set to something other than basic care or rest to prove this to yourself.
#7 Sep 10 2006 at 6:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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It IS still a bug, even though this works. It's only a coincidental loop around it. The very fact that you have to set your care plan to basic care because your chocobo wont wake up after your Rest plan isnt in effect means its a bug. If it wasnt a bug, then after the day of rest was over your chocobo would wake right up.
#8 Sep 10 2006 at 6:30 PM Rating: Excellent
ITs pretty BS you can't wake a starving animal up to feed it anyways. My dog wakes up if you so much as look at the cupboard his food is in! :P
#9 Sep 10 2006 at 6:31 PM Rating: Good
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Salodin wrote:
It IS still a bug, even though this works. It's only a coincidental loop around it. The very fact that you have to set your care plan to basic care because your chocobo wont wake up after your Rest plan isnt in effect means its a bug. If it wasnt a bug, then after the day of rest was over your chocobo would wake right up.


Unless it was intended that you needed to follow rest with basic care.

I think it is a bug, but the way people responded to it was way out of proportion. There is a work around we can do in game to "fix" it. The cost is one day of listenning to music or a some other more productive care plan. Thats not terrible. It is terrible that many people lost 7+ days because they couldn't figure out the solution.

Also please note in my second sentence I said, "I think..." It may in fact be working as intended.

One quest I haven't seen answered on here is.. has anyone had chocoma twice? That is to say your chocobo woke up from the first one, you did rest again and it agian would not wake up? Because if it only happens the first time then I'd say it's a safe bet that it's related to the hankercheif event and is meant to happen the first time you rest it (at least as a chick).
#10 Sep 10 2006 at 7:04 PM Rating: Good
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It happened twice to me. I decided to test it out and take a risk, since I was always missing a few pixels of energy from my choco's bar. I set it to rest and she went into a coma for a day. But I used 'Listen to music' to wake her from it.

Sad part is shes still missing those few pixels from her energy bar -_-
#11 Sep 10 2006 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
The problem is some chocos are not waking up despite the fact they are not hungry and they have energy. Or at least they had energy and weren't hungry until they were unable to be fed for 4-5 days. My mules choco has been asleep since day 2 when I put it to rest. The next day was set for Basic Care, that day I got the cs saying he was on basic care, but I was not able to feed him, because he was asleep. His energy bar was completely full and he was almost full. I have tried setting him to rest for a few days, and I have tried basic care. He still can't be fed. His energy bar still has a little left as I haven't been watching over him much, but he finally went down to starving two days ago, so that will be gone soon.
#12 Sep 10 2006 at 8:27 PM Rating: Default
The Gm talked to assured me that this was not a bug and the chocobo raising systems is working perfectly as intended to. I tried the basic care thing and it works my chocobo was fed threw basic care and woke up the next day. To bad he was regardig me as his parent, excelent condition and perky, and now he only likes to be around me ;;
#13 Sep 10 2006 at 8:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I've gone without feeding my choco for a day or two, and he seems fine. I've had him on the rest program too around that time with no problems... and I also fully deplete the energy bar every day.

I guess I should be thankful, huh? ^_^;
#14 Sep 11 2006 at 1:22 AM Rating: Good
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Not sure if it's a bug or not, but waiting 2 days doesn't work. If your chocobo is asleep, set all the plans to basic care, then at next conquest update, it will awaken. I thought it was 2 days also, until mine fell asleep. Then I had to wait almost a full week for it to wake up. And man, it was fscking pissed at me when it woke up.
#15 Sep 11 2006 at 6:07 AM Rating: Excellent
I'm still not sure whether it's a bug or not, but here's some info to add:

My husband's chocobo was in "chocoma" for 7 or 8 days (we lost count, but we're pretty sure it was 8 days and woke up on the 9th). On the first day that it was sleeping without being told to, I read some information that suggested putting it on Basic Care indefinitely until it woke up. So he did, meaning that it started 2 days after that. But it still slept for 5 or 6 more days without being fed. It finally woke up and is still depressed although it has reached adolescence.

However, my chocobo never went into the "chocoma".... and I never used basic care. Not once. I rotated taking a walk and listening to music with a day of rest. Edit: And he was always starving when he woke up but had a full health bar.

We both fed our chocobos vegetable paste, until about 3 days ago when I started feeding mine Sandy carrots.

I'm not really interested in the whole "was it a bug or was it the player's fault" debate... except that if it was not a bug, I'd love to know how to avoid it in the future.

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Not sure if it's a bug or not, but waiting 2 days doesn't work. If your chocobo is asleep, set all the plans to basic care, then at next conquest update, it will awaken. I thought it was 2 days also, until mine fell asleep. Then I had to wait almost a full week for it to wake up. And man, it was fscking pissed at me when it woke up.

This makes sense, except that my husband's chocobo woke up Saturday, the day before the update, and it fell asleep before the last update. :(

Edited, Sep 11th 2006 at 7:21am EDT by EmoriaEmoria
#16 Sep 14 2006 at 2:59 PM Rating: Good
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Raybard wrote:
Ok, so many people, including myself, have had problems with their chocobos never waking up after a day of rest. Well, here's why...

Your chick's energy is based on what it was fed the day before. So if you select rest, you cannot feed it while it's asleep, making it energy-less the following, and therefore it sleeps. However, if you follow the resting day with a basic care day, basic care feeds your chocobo. so it will only be asleep the rest day and the day of basic care (cause u couldnt feed it the day before). But the following day you will be able to feed it because with basic care, they feed it for you. SE did a beautiful job of explaining this.

So, if your choco is in a 5-day coma like mine, set everything to basic care (1 day) and in 2 days it will wake up.




Is that 2 Days Earth Time or Vanadiel time? Mine went into the Chocoma a few days ago.
#17 Sep 14 2006 at 3:03 PM Rating: Default

LOL

In another thread a couple days ago , everyone aggreed it was a glitch...

I posted that maybe it wasnt a glitch but something we didnt understand yet...

I got flamed...

now you tell me that it was indeed something we didnt know...

/shocked
/butthurt
/em readies BombToss on the allakhazam community
/em go away
#18 Sep 14 2006 at 3:17 PM Rating: Default
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EmoriaEmoria wrote:
It finally woke up and is still depressed although it has reached adolescence.


All adolescents are depressed, this is nothing unusual.
#19 Sep 14 2006 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
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I honestly think this is a glitch. I have rested my chocobo twice now. The first time it woke up a day late. The care plan at that time was 1)Rest 1-day 2)Listen to Music 1-day and 3)Walk around town 1-day. Mine woke up after the cut scene of it walking around town.

The second time I put it to sleep was about 6 days ago. My chocobo has yet to wake up and I have attempted four different care plans, listening to music, walk around town, exhibit to the public and basic care.

I don't know if this matters, but I initially rested it as an infant and it grew up to an adolecent while still sleeping. It's sad, I was regarded as UranusTrooper's parent, and it is on the verge of hating me.
#20 Sep 15 2006 at 3:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, people have contacted a GM and they acknowledged that it was a bug.


So they say, sounded like BS to me.


It's not. I was standing behind my husband reading his screen when he made his GM call. He spoke with both Kriegspiel and Cayenne, and both believed it to be a glitch. My choco has never slept so much as a day, despite being drained each day and occasionally left starving because I didn't log on to feed him. I also got the occasional "Your chocobo is waking up every day" message.

I'm really not looking to revive this debate, but please don't imply that my husband (among others) are lying about the conversations they've had with GMs about this behavior.
#21 Sep 15 2006 at 10:59 AM Rating: Default
it's 2 full days earth time. However, I am finding if you dont have your care schedule set by a certain time, it may be 3 full days. It will wake up by the second day of basic care.
#22 Sep 15 2006 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
When I had spoken with a GM about this he told me the chocobo raising system was working fine and there were no known bugs. However, he then went on telling me that GMs didn't work with the development team and they wouldn't know if it was a bug or not until the development team decided and then informed them.

Seems like SE has a lack of communication. Big suprise...

Anyway, after my chocobo finally woke up, I fed it 2 cupid worms (1 per day) and it loved me again like a parent. Hopefully everybody's chocobo wakes up and they can continue raising it with success.
#23 Sep 15 2006 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
When I had spoken with a GM about this he told me the chocobo raising system was working fine and there were no known bugs. However, he then went on telling me that GMs didn't work with the development team and they wouldn't know if it was a bug or not until the development team decided and then informed them.

Seems like SE has a lack of communication. Big suprise...

Anyway, after my chocobo finally woke up, I fed it 2 cupid worms (1 per day) and it loved me again like a parent. Hopefully everybody's chocobo wakes up and they can continue raising it with success.
ReleasetheEvil wrote:

LOL

In another thread a couple days ago , everyone aggreed it was a glitch...

I posted that maybe it wasnt a glitch but something we didnt understand yet...

I got flamed...

now you tell me that it was indeed something we didnt know...

/shocked
/butthurt
/em readies BombToss on the allakhazam community
/em go away
#24 Sep 15 2006 at 11:32 AM Rating: Good
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To all those who's chocobo woke up from a coma, Sharug is a good food for getting affection back. When used in combination with 1 cupid worm, an ls mate managed to get his just woken choco to regard him as a parent in 24h. The idea is that Sharug is less filling. so you can feed a lot of it to a chocobo before the chocobo gets full. Since each feeding raises the choco's affection, you can raise it quite a bit by using Sharug.
#25 Sep 20 2006 at 5:22 PM Rating: Good
Well mine fell into a coma on day 25, put it on basic plan, still on basic plan on day 30 and still hasn't woke up.
#26 Sep 20 2006 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't need the Basic Care plan!

Mine did the whole sleep crap thing too.
It does wake up early in the morning.

Not sure the exact time but what I did was about 9am EST was feed it BEFORE it did the plan for the day, Went for a walk and later on that day it fell asleep again, but it did wake up the next day (pissed off at me btw -_-)

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