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#1 Dec 11 2007 at 3:44 AM Rating: Good
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In light of all the events that have been going on with accounts getting hacked and people being paranoid about getting hacked themselves. I have decided to make this guide on how to protect your PC in event that you could possible get a keylogger or virus from an ad on a website that is FFXI related. All links are to free and safe software.

I've put this together with my own knowledge of protecting my PC as well as some information that I've read over the past few day's.

Hopefully this will help those who are a beginner to protecting their PC.

  • 1.0 Software
  • 2.0 Firefox Internet Options
  • 3.0 Caution – Sites To Be Careful With
  • 4.0 Your POL Password
  • 5.0 Third Party Tools
  • 6.0 Disclaimer



  • 1.0 Software

    Firefox - While Firefox alone won’t protect your PC, it’s generally the safest way to browse the internet. Downloading Firefox simply isn’t enough, you will need two extra Plug-in’s called No Script and Ad-Block.

    http://noscript.net/features - No Script
    http://adblockplus.org/en/ - Ad-Block

    These sites are secure, but make sure if you download anymore Plug-In’s for Firefox you do so from addons.mozilla.org.

    To add these Plug-In’s to your Firefox, simply follow the links to the download’s and follow the instructions given on the site provided.

    Spy Bot Search and Destroy - http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html - Spy Bot Search and Destroy scans your entire computer system for Malware, Spyware and Adware so it can be removed completely from your computer.

    Spyware Blaster - http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/index.html - Spyware Blaster prevents the installation of spyware and other potentially unwanted software; you have to manually remember to keep it updated and tell it to block everything in the update note’s.

    Ad-Aware from Lavasoft - http://www.lavasoft.com/products/ad_aware_free.php - Ad-Aware does the same as Spy Bot, scans your entire computer for Malware etc.

    Virus Protection – Any updated virus protection of your choice. (Check out http://www.bitdefender.com/ for free up to date virus protection.)

    Firewall – Any firewall of your choice with the most secure settings. (Check out http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/ for Comodo Firewall Pro or http://www.zonealarm.com/ for Zone Alarm)

    Note: Windows Firewall isn't recommended. You may keep it running if it doesn't interfer with your better firewall.

    Optional Software:

    HijackThis – http://www.download.com/Trend-Micro-HijackThis/3000-8022_4-10781312.html?tag=lst-1- I would only suggest to use this if you know a lot about your PC, because you manually tell it to delete file’s that may be harmful to your PC. Use it in conjunction with this site to check your logs: http://hjt.networktechs.com


    2.0 Firefox Internet Options

    Tools -> Options -> Security. Check the box for “Warn me when sites try to install add-ons.”

    Tools -> Options -> Content. Check the box for “Block pop-up windows.” This should help prevent additional ads in the form of pop ups.


    2.5 Internet Explorer

    If your truly still want to use IE go and download IE 7.0. That’s available for free from Micosoft.com. I’ve just recently downloaded it myself, and I’m unsure of any additional Plug-In’s it may have.

    You’re going to want to adjust your settings. Tools -> Internet Options -> Privacy -> High. In addition check “Turn on Pop-up Blocker.”

    3.0 Caution – Sites To Be Careful With

    Until further notice you may not want to visit the following sites:

  • FFXI Atlas (ffxiatlas.com)
  • FFXI AH (ffxiah.com)
  • FFXI Somepage (cannotlinkto)
  • Additional Information About Somepage from BG
  • Any other FFXI related site with FFXI related ad’s.

  • 4.0 Your POL Password.

    You may think your POL password is secure by making it your first pet’s name and adding on some numbers. It’s really not.

    Some tips for creating your password are do not use words, instead use a combination of upper and lower case letters and numbers. It is the most difficult to hack by Brute Force.

    Remember to write your password down, at least twice and keep a copy in two different and safe places. Remember to create a password that is for POL only, and that you do not use on Alla etc. And finally remember to NOT give out your POL ID and password, ever.

  • Bad Passowrd Example: rocky86 (My first pet’s name and the year I was born.)

  • Good Password Example: JyH60jAtv96 (Typed a random combination of letter’s and number’s)


  • You can create an easy to remember, yet complicated password by using number's and letter's meaningful to you. Use the initials of your favourite singer, use the first three letter's of your pet, use the first two letters of your favourite food and use your favourite number(s). Add in capitals where they should be and I'd get something like: piKC17Tho56 Looks completely random, hard to crack, but easy to remember because of what it stands for.

    In addition to having a secure password you also do not want to have your password saved. You want to have to type it in every single time you log on POL. (When you log in POL click on Settings before you log in, delete your POL password and click Set Password to Not Set). This will prevent your password from being saved on your PC and available to a virus/Trojan etc.

    Avaliable with Windows is a soft keyboard, also known as a On-Screen Keyboard. Programs -> Accessories -> Acessibility -> On-Screen Keyboard. Simply open it when you’re logging into POL and click your password in instead of typing. This will prevent your password from being picked up by a key logger in chance that you get one.

    For additional tips check out Password Strength

    5.0 Third Party Tools

    Do not use third party tools. In addition do not click any links to .zip files and the like that someone may link to you in game.

    The windower available from windower.net is generally believed and known to be safe, use at your own risk.

    6.0 Disclaimer

    I don’t claim to know everything there is to know about protecting your PC, but this is what I’ve done and based on personal experience, it works. This may not keep you 100% safe, but it does maximize your security and prevention from getting your account hacked.

    Edited, Dec 12th 2007 8:23am by BJordan

    Edited, Jan 1st 2008 11:04am by Pikko
    #2 Dec 11 2007 at 3:50 AM Rating: Good
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    I would like to add that everyone should use a software firewall such as Zonealarm

    http://www.zonealarm.com/ even if you have a hardware firewall/router



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    #3 Dec 11 2007 at 4:03 AM Rating: Good
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    Comodo that the OP gave link to is a nice firewall, you get the full version free, even for corporate use.

    I also have a port filter called GhostWall, and use Spybots tea-timer function to keep track of any programs that request registry changes.

    For those of you that are security protocol aware, CoreForce is without doubt one of the best firewalls you can get, but you do need some degree of expertise to use it.
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    #4 Dec 11 2007 at 4:14 AM Rating: Decent
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    Ok ******* hell,

    Im getting scared now, is the Account-hacking getting this bad??

    I didn't even start playing yet (still waiting for my copy to arrive)

    and already ******** my pants for **** heads stealing my account

    Gz
    #5 Dec 11 2007 at 4:19 AM Rating: Good
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    Matsuke wrote:
    Im getting scared now, is the Account-hacking getting this bad??


    It's not really that bad, but there have been a lot more cases recently of it happening to people. I've noticed in reading these thread's that a lot of people really don't use all the software that they should on their PC.

    Some also make super easy password's.
    #6 Dec 11 2007 at 4:30 AM Rating: Good
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    yeah okay. But still ... =p btw, Using Standard XP FW, bad idea? +firefox and adaware+CCleaner scans
    #7 Dec 11 2007 at 4:46 AM Rating: Excellent
    I knew all of that except the on-screen keyboard.
    Rate up for that alone. Smiley: nod
    #8 Dec 11 2007 at 5:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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    Quote:
    In addition to having a secure password you also do not want to have your password saved. You want to have to type it in every single time you log on POL. (When you log in POL click on Settings before you log in, delete your POL password and click Set Password to Not Set). This will prevent your password from being saved on your PC and available to a virus/Trojan etc.

    Avaliable with Windows is a soft keyboard, also known as a On-Screen Keyboard. Programs -> Accessories -> Acessibility -> On-Screen Keyboard. Simply open it when you’re logging into POL and click your password in instead of typing. This will prevent your password from being picked up by a key logger in chance that you get one.


    How about saving your password in a text document, and copy & pasting it to log in? Are there any keylogger/trojans that can intercept clipboard contents?

    Edit:
    As answered below, no this isn't safe, and neither is using the Windows On-Screen Keyboard which is easily intercepted by a keylogger. Details in this thread:

    http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10;mid=1197526047226032992

    Posted some links there to some software that can help increase security a little more, provide you already have anti-virus, firewall, and anti-malware installed (you should).
    I've been using Mouse-Only Keyboard to input the password, which lets you click the characters for your password without displaying what you've typed (so a screen-cap wouldn't show it), and disables clipboard viewers (or so it says), which can cheat the simpler keyloggers. In any case, it's better than just typing or using the Windows on-screen keyboard (which is hooked by keyloggers just like the keyboard is), and saving the password might not be a good idea, either, since a majority of people already do that and still have been keylogged. But, an advanced keylogger can probably still grab passwords regardless of how they're inputted.

    In short, there's no truly safe way to input your password, so do the best you can to ensure that you don't end up with a keylogger in the first place.



    Edited, Dec 18th 2007 8:52pm by Gatero
    #9 Dec 11 2007 at 5:00 AM Rating: Decent
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    Matsuke wrote:
    Ok @#%^ing hell,

    Im getting scared now, is the Account-hacking getting this bad??

    I didn't even start playing yet (still waiting for my copy to arrive)

    and already sh*tting my pants for @#%^ heads stealing my account

    Gz


    RMT operating in FFXI seem to be desperate enough to canabalise their potential customers, but it's not restricted to FFXI alone. They target anyone that offers decent 'loot'.

    Gilbuyers are especially at risk, seeing as the RMT know exactly how much they can 'loot' there... snake eating it's own tail...

    #10 Dec 11 2007 at 5:02 AM Rating: Default
    put more than that. Windows firewall dosent protect against your aunts x-mas cheeck-pinch kisses. Get a real one. zonealarm is a nice one, comboed with spybot or ad-aware. Mix in firefox plugins and either an anti-virus or a suite (i like Avast!, nice firewall/anti-virus, it's light on ressources and effective). Hardware firewalls (routers)are not a bad idea either but if you don't have any don't sweat it.

    also i strongly D'ONT advise puttings passwords like hZciu9PQ69. You are likely to forget it, or write it down and lose it etc. The best is non-common names that are not generally employed, or the best, pass-phrases.

    exemple : MyDoGIsPurPle300 . Hard to break, Easy to remember.

    also one last pointer. It does not matter wether or not you auto-remember your password or type it in if you change it regularly. why?. Because keyloggers and malwares will get your password no matter what whether you type or hit the *remember* box anyway. Just have a nice exhaustive scan before you do even log in.

    all in all, it's not only FF, it's common sense, don't browse without updated softwares, a spysoftware, firewall+anvirus. and steer cleer of hax or dubious websites. Use your head people.

    Edited, Dec 11th 2007 8:04am by Taerra
    #11 Dec 11 2007 at 5:15 AM Rating: Good
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    Taerra wrote:
    also one last pointer. It does not matter wether or not you auto-remember your password or type it in if you change it regularly. why?. Because keyloggers and malwares will get your password no matter what whether you type or hit the *remember* box anyway. Just have a nice exhaustive scan before you do even log in.


    I forgot to mention that the Windows Firewall is garbage, thanks.

    I updated some information on password selection.

    Also yes it does matter. In order to save your password, your PC has to store it somewhere, which means the information is avaliable if someone knows where to look.
    #12 Dec 11 2007 at 5:32 AM Rating: Default
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    Ok, while this post is full of some really useful information, please remember that the bulk of people who "had their account hacked" are people who shared their information with another person. They would either email or, worse yet, IM via a forum, their account information.

    Taj showed us the danger in having forum accounts and keeping crucial data there.

    Keep a unique password for playonline, not the same you use on forum accounts.

    Also, for the site "bans", for christ's sake, would people either put up or shut up? Has anyone ACTUALLY lost their account by using these sites? If so, provide proof to the site and I'm sure they will correct the issue.
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    #13 Dec 11 2007 at 5:39 AM Rating: Good
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    Friar Pawkeshup wrote:
    Ok, while this post is full of some really useful information, please remember that the bulk of people who "had their account hacked" are people who shared their information with another person.

    Keep a unique password for playonline, not the same you use on forum accounts.

    Also, for the site "bans", for christ's sake, would people either put up or shut up? Has anyone ACTUALLY lost their account by using these sites? If so, provide proof to the site and I'm sure they will correct the issue.


    1 Person getting hacked from a virus or trojan from an ad on a website is one too many. Especially when SE does nothing to help these people.

    The site's aren't "banned". I said, you "may not want to visit". A few people have reported of being prompted to download thing's when on these sites, therefore you may want to avoid them. Personally I don't and haven't had a problem yet.

    Edited, Dec 11th 2007 8:45am by BJordan
    #14 Dec 11 2007 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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    Until further notice you may not want to visit the following sites:


    FFXI Atlas (ffxiatlas.com)
    FFXI AH (ffxiah.com)
    Any other FFXI related site with FFXI related ad’s.


    I don't think just visiting these sites is in any way dangerous. Clicking on banner ads and installing anything or downloading the ActiveX controllers, yeah, that's a bad idea.
    #15 Dec 11 2007 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
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    Also yes it does matter. In order to save your password, your PC has to store it somewhere, which means the information is avaliable if someone knows where to look.


    BJ, thats what keyloggers do. They record the sequence of a typed password, or they dig your files for those passwords. one way or the other, if you catch one of those, chances are that you are screwed. Scan your PC and switch your password asap.
    #16 Dec 11 2007 at 6:34 AM Rating: Good
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    Quote:
    I don't think just visiting these sites is in any way dangerous. Clicking on banner ads and installing anything or downloading the ActiveX controllers, yeah, that's a bad idea.


    The reports stated that the sites were simply being browsed, when windows firewall kicked off warnings about registry changes and software installs. Be very wary for the time being of visiting these sites, without taking some sensible precautions. Adblock and NoScript in Firefox will prevent the majority of scripts from displaying/executing, but do so at your own risk.
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    #17 Dec 11 2007 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
    I would also like to mention a plug in for Firefox called Key Scrambler. There is a free version and 2 paid versions that work work with both Firefox and IE.

    It scrambles your input at the keyboard driver level and then unscrambles it on the browser window. The free version only works for logins while the paid versions work for every keystroke you make on your computer.

    It might be of interest to some to check it out.
    #18 Dec 11 2007 at 1:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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    I know this seems like "common sense" as one poster said, but some of us who have been using PCs since the 80s, but have almost no internet experience simply don't know.

    Everthing I've ever had to do with the internet was either off line for work, or if I did need to access the internet it, security was taken care of by the admin. Hell, the most advanced thing around for a while was Lotus Notes - and if you don't use a PC that often knowing what to watch for, or what to install can be daunting.

    Thanks OP, very good info.
    #19 Dec 11 2007 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
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    Taerra wrote:
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    Also yes it does matter. In order to save your password, your PC has to store it somewhere, which means the information is avaliable if someone knows where to look.


    BJ, thats what keyloggers do. They record the sequence of a typed password, or they dig your files for those passwords. one way or the other, if you catch one of those, chances are that you are screwed. Scan your PC and switch your password asap.


    Why you don't save your password (in any shape or form on your PC) or type it in, use the on-screen keyboard. It seems like a pain, but it's worth it in my opinion.

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    I would also like to mention a plug in for Firefox called Key Scrambler. There is a free version and 2 paid versions that work work with both Firefox and IE


    I'll look into that in a bit and add it once I figure it out.

    Also I realised after I posted this that someone else had beaten me to the punch. Oh well.
    #20 Dec 11 2007 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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    for future use, thank you
    #21 Dec 11 2007 at 6:17 PM Rating: Good
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    Some good info, some not so good info.

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    Bad Passowrd Example: rocky1986 (My first pet’s name and the year I was born.)

    Good Password Example: jyH60Jtv96 (Typed a random combination of letter’s and number’s)


    Both are reasonable passwords, if you understand how a password is stored and how brute force works then you will know that the possible combinations have only increased by a factor of 26.

    So how does brute force work? Firstly the person needs to have physical access to your password, they have to get it from SE (pretty much impossible) or steal it from your computer.

    Passwords stored locally will be encrypted and are *never* sent over the internet. When POL asks for your password, POL doesnt send info saying "the password we have written is...." it sends a string, and if that string matches the string held on the POL servers login is allowed.

    Brute force, well, both combo's you gave were 9 letters, which gives a total combination of (combinations to the power of letters) so A-Z a-z 0-9 = 62m so 62^9 = 13,537,086,546,263,552 possible combinations.

    Weak passwords are either just letters (all lowercase) or just numbers. Now lets just do some maths here. Say we manage to brute force 10 million combinations per second. It will take 1,353,708,654 seconds to crack a 9 digit password, or 15,667 days.

    So as you can see, the actual amount of time required to crack an encrypted password is monumentally huge. So feeding fear into people that their password is suddenly "unsafe" is quite uncalled for. And 10 million is an incredibly high estimate, last time I checked it was hardly able to make 1m/sec.
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    Lexxuk wrote:

    Weak passwords are either just letters (all lowercase) or just numbers. Now lets just do some maths here. Say we manage to brute force 10 million combinations per second. It will take 1,353,708,654 seconds to crack a 9 digit password, or 15,667 days.

    So as you can see, the actual amount of time required to crack an encrypted password is monumentally huge. So feeding fear into people that their password is suddenly "unsafe" is quite uncalled for. And 10 million is an incredibly high estimate, last time I checked it was hardly able to make 1m/sec.


    While what you are saying is indeed correct, it is also wrong. It can take *up* to 15,667 days. The brute force could find the correct combination on the 10,453 combination. Point is, brute attack is something that, in most cases, should not affect you; IF you take the proper precautions.

    As the OP, and others have said, one of the simplest precautions is to create a complex password.
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    VicMackie wrote:
    [quote=Lexxuk]While what you are saying is indeed correct, it is also wrong. It can take *up* to 15,667 days. The brute force could find the correct combination on the 10,453 combination. Point is, brute attack is something that, in most cases, should not affect you; IF you take the proper precautions.

    As the OP, and others have said, one of the simplest precautions is to create a complex password.


    Whilst a complex password is quite useful, it isnt really the way the password is written, for instance M8xYhq91 is a weaker password than Passw1978. Whilst the first does appear to be more secure (random letters and numbers), the second contains more letters so is a more secure password.

    I'm pretty sure that it would be unable to find the password in only 10,452 combinations anyhow. Brute force attacks start at a minimum password size and work their way up, so if we assume min password size is 6 letters and you have a 9 letter, the programme needs to find a collision for every 6 letter, every 7 letter and every 8 letter combo before it can start on the 9 letter combo.

    So at 62^X where X is password size....

    56,800,235,584 combinations for 6 letters
    3,521,614,606,208 combinations for 7 letters
    218,340,105,584,896 combinations for 8 letters
    13,537,086,546,263,552 combinations for 9 letters

    So before the programme can even begin 9 letters, it needs to figure out over 212 trillion combinations. Easier use comes from dictionary comparisons.
    #24 Dec 12 2007 at 4:36 AM Rating: Good
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    Either way, it's almost impossible for someone to get your password with brute force on FFXI. It would take them an extremely long long time.

    I edited the password's in the guide.

    I was thinking of just reposting some of this information to add to the sticky instead.
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    Quick Question....

    Which do you guys prefer:

    Zone alarm or Comodo?


    I've had zone alarm for awhile, though only the free version, and when I went to install Comodo, it said that I could only have one installed, so I'm wondering if it was worth it to take off Zone Alarm and replace it.
    #26 Dec 18 2007 at 4:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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    Gatero wrote:
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    In addition to having a secure password you also do not want to have your password saved. You want to have to type it in every single time you log on POL. (When you log in POL click on Settings before you log in, delete your POL password and click Set Password to Not Set). This will prevent your password from being saved on your PC and available to a virus/Trojan etc.

    Avaliable with Windows is a soft keyboard, also known as a On-Screen Keyboard. Programs -> Accessories -> Acessibility -> On-Screen Keyboard. Simply open it when you’re logging into POL and click your password in instead of typing. This will prevent your password from being picked up by a key logger in chance that you get one.


    How about saving your password in a text document, and copy & pasting it to log in? Are there any keylogger/trojans that can intercept clipboard contents?


    I didn't see this answered while skimming the thread.

    Yes. It's pretty trivial for any application to monitor clipboard content and I'm pretty sure that and semi-decent keylogger would include this information. (I know I would if I wrote one.)
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