Life of a Newb (Day 8)Follow

Once again I didn't get to play too much, but that is still more than I thougth I was going to play. I made two very disappointing decisions last night, hopefully if any newbs read this they wont make the same mistaks. First one was I purchased something off the AH without first seeing if any vendors sold it. I spent 700 gil more on the AH than I would have at the vendor. It's not a big deal because I was given so much gil, but still... You want to manage your finances better than that. My suggestion to newbs would be to first type in the item you want to buy in the search box on this page. Every item has a list of vendors that sells them and you can select the vendors to see what they sell for. Check that before buying anything on the AH! That is probably one of the most useful things about this site, however... You have to make sure to check this as Vendors can run out of items in stock and if you want it you may have to buy if from the AH.

Second mistake I made is one I regret even more than that. I asked for help without first trying it on my own. Now Venoxio I really do appreciate your help and I'm sorry I had to leave right after completing it (My baby woke up and my wife was exhausted), but I really should have tried that mission by myself. The fact that the mission said bring some friends had me concerned but after running through there, I think that probably wouldn't be a bad place for me to go and solo guys. I asked for help on mission one, and even though it was nice not having to search for that place and to get help finding the guys it just annoyed me... I could have and should have done it on my own as it would have been enjoyable to do so. So my suggestion is this, try things before asking for help, by getting help you are missing out on story line and on the excitement and fun! I did enjoy the change of scenery, and all the Goblins made me want to start nuking everything! In fact I ended up logging out right outside of the ruins so I might turn around head back in and see how many Golbins I can kill before I accidentally pull more than one. What is the trick to pulling mobs from a group? Do I have certain spells that do it better than others? I suppose spells that have less hate are less likely to pull near by mobs. Is that true? How about DOT spells like poison?

The only other thing that really happened is I got in my first LinkShell, I learned pretty quickly that if you aren't paying attention to what is being said because you are leveling or on a mission... Unequip the shell! That being said, I should ask... Is that poor manners or is that standard?

One last question, I have read in quite a few places that if you are a Tarutaru and a warrior people will not want you in groups. Is that the truth or is that just for the cranky people that I probably wouldn't group with anyhow? Not saying I'm going to switch to warrior but I was just curious. Would a Tarutaru Warrior with a sub job of WHM or something like that really be that bad?

Thanks,
Twadd

Edited, Dec 13th 2007 9:43am by Twadd

if mobs link it doesnt matter what spell you use they will link if their close enough linking depends on the type of detection the mob uses so goblins are sight if one is looking away you can safely pull the other.

its not bad manners if you unequip a shell for lvling or quests and other things just tell people in shell your doing it and im sure they will understand ^^.

there is nothing wrong with taru war's any race can do any job in this game well its all about the player not the race ^^.

It is a good idea to check for vendors selling items, especially low level spells and armor, but at a certain point, the AH is better. Also, save everything that stacks up and sell it at the AH. It almost always sells for more as a stack than in singles.

And like Alobont said, it doesn't matter if you leave your linkshell equipped. Most of the time at your level it isn't very important to pay attention to everything, though it does help if someone is trying to help you. I usually ignore it until I'm resting, then go back and check the chat log.

I generally don't unequip my shell unless I need to concentrate. I took it off last weekend because someone was harping on and on about a rule change and a potential loophole in it, and I couldn't deal with that and do the CoP 6-4 airship battle at the same time. So I took my linkshell off. It was a pretty rude gesture but a necessary one.

You can always scroll up in your text log if you missed something!

Well thanks for all the useful information. I hope I didn't offend the Link Shell. The problem I had is I was getting help and was missing tells because of the LS chat. Then I would expand the chat window and would lose sight of the guy I was following... I wonder if I can solo in those ruins at my level or not. All the goblins I saw were Easy Prey. I suppose I pull the first guy and if there is only one add I bind him. If there are multiple adds I think I just lay down and die!.. lol. Anyway you look at it, that is a good skill to practice as it might come in handy for grouping later. Probably should work with my targeting skills first. That is one of the biggest problems I have so far is targeting the right stuff. If you hit F8, that brings you to your closest mob, if you then hit tab does it go to the next closest?

Thanks,
Twadd

I think I've disproved that enough.

If you're following someone you can target them, lock on, and autorun towards them. You'll automatically follow them from that point forward, until you zone, or lose your target lock some other way. Be careful with this though, it's not necessarily good to do this in all situations, and always tell the person you're following them. This allows you to check the log without stopping, grab a beer from the fridge etc, without having to stop everyone. Just MAKE SURE you tell them you're doing it, "/p /autofollow yodabunny brb (if you're leaving the pc)" is what you'd want to say.

I always look up the missions before I start them. I find the help here and also at other sites very, very useful. Some of the missions you can do alone depending on your level and others nope.

As far as taru warriors, if you are the only warrior out there, you will be asked to join a party, if there are others, you may have to wait in line, so to speak.
It is a bit tougher in the early levels to keep a taru warrior healed and alive, just part of the life of a taru with low hp to begin with. It can be done, just expect to die more often.

I am not sure it is so rude to unequip your ls. Maybe I am misinformed, but I know several players with more than one ls, so they can only have one equipped at a time anyway. I had 3 at one point on my main, but quickly learned to appreciate one over the other two. That is the one I keep on all the time.

Yes, at the early levels always check the AH price to the vendors. Particularly with spells and equipment/armor. Also there are some NPC that sell items for crafting at a much lower level than you can buy in the AH.

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Edited, Dec 13th 2007 9:30am by Araxie

Since it's my Linkshell your talking about...no its perfectly ok.

To generally answer the question, as someone mentioned above, most people leave linkpearls on. This is mostly because either people get used to it, or is able to unknowingly filter out the unneeded information automatically and go about their business.

But you can't expect this from everyone. Not every person has the ability to concentrate with when their doing when they are being bombarded with LS chat whether your involved in it or not. I've seen and known a bunch of people that take off their LSs in an EXP party, simply so they can give then full attention to it. Others keep the LS on, but good luck trying to get their attention unless you send a /tell.

So on the basis of the rules I hold for my shell, don't feel bad if you need to be a little anti-social when you need to do something. Come and go as you please, it's your game and your experience.

This is great advice when pulling from a group, however there is one other thing you should bear in mind. Some mobs will not run at you immediatly when you attack them with a spell/ranged attack.

Mage-type mobs (such as a Goblin Weaver) will often respond to an attack by casting a spell. This means that they wont move until finishing their spell at the earliest. This can be more than enough time for one of their friends to turn around and poke you in the eye with something sharp and rusty.

Worse, ranger-type mobs (such as a Goblin Ambusher) will often just stand exactly where they are and fire bolts at you until you look like a pin cushion, leaving plenty of time for their friends to join in.

You can try and limit the risk of this sort of thing happening by ducking out of sight of the mob after you get its attention. If they can't see you, they can't cast any new spells or fire any more shots at you, and they'll happily run towards you until you're back in their line of sight. Another alternative is to try and run out of their range and make them follow that way.

This technique is easier in some places than others. Tunnels or gulleys with lots of turns and corners are often safer than big open areas, as are places with really big rocks. It is also usually more effective against ranger type mobs than mage ones, as a mage mob will usually finish casting their spell before running after you, even if they can't see you when the spell ends. Curse them! *waves fist*

You'll soon learn which mobs are the ones that don't charge straight at you, and with a little practice you'll know how to pull the different mob types in no time, I'm sure :)

Twadd,

Never unequip your linkshell unless you are doing a mission without any of your linkshell members. You never known when you'll bite it and need a Raise or tele back to what you were doing. When you die, you can't put it back on. :)

When you are doing parties/quests/missions with LS members, people will often hit Control + L or have their /cm l set up, so you will miss sentences here and there telling you they are AFK, pulling, have to go soon, etc.

I find it best to leave one of my linkshells equipped at all times. You can hit the + key on your keyboard, Enter, and then tab over until you see only LS chatter in your log. I've learned to do this quickly, so I can see stuff I might have missed during battle spam. You then just bash Escape until you're back to whatever it was you were doing.

As someone else mentioned, you can look at the log while resting, in between pulls, or just later on. People go AFK all of the time, so if you don't answer someone right away, I don't see how it could be considered too rude. You can always get back to them later.

Finally, setting your linkshell talk to hold is a Great idea. :)


Edited, Dec 13th 2007 12:11pm by SFChakan

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One last thing...it can come in handy if you can't be on ffxi and this site at the same time...
There is an FFXI Guide book. It came out in 04 so it is uber outdated.
The job section of the book should be torn out and burned (just keep the "how to unlock ___ job part).
The rest of the book is filled with Qst, mission, craft, mobs, and item info.
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The rest of your post was fine, but please don't recommend the Brady FFXI guide without completely illustrating that the very best use you can get for it is bathroom reading material. In reality, so much has changed and Twadd's learned all of the basics that the book covers. He would find it of little use, especially compared to online, searchable websites like Alla.

That said, it's never left the back of my throne. XD