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#1 Nov 25 2014 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
Well I think this will be what I would be building next week

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $179.99)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $29.99)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Purchased For $84.99)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Force LS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Apevia X-CRUISER3-BL ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $68.99)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Apevia CF12SL-SBL 50.3 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $8.99)
Case Fan: Apevia CF12SL-SBL 50.3 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $8.99)
Other: Windows 8.1 Pro for Students (Purchased For $69.99)
Total: $801.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-27 00:22 EST-0500

Edited, Nov 27th 2014 12:23am by Mystical818
#2 Nov 25 2014 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
Looks like a decent budget gaming system. It'll run XIV nicely, but that's not a future proof gaming system by any stretch. Most of the suggestions I have would start piling on a lot of money, so don't take it as the word from on high or anything.

1. Try to bump the CPU to a Core i7 if at all possible. XIV is not nearly as CPU intensive, relatively, as FFXI was back in the day, but the better a processor you have, the more threads your OS will be capable of handling. To put it another way.... I like to have two monitors, XIV in one and a web browser in the other. Extra processing power means your system isn't slow when you do that.

2. I've had no problems with my built in Intel cooler on my i7 4770K. Not sure the aftermarket cooler is necessary.

3. Mobo looks fine. Probably the best component in this case. Looks good for upgrades for years to come.

4. I would personally double the RAM in this, but I'm a dork. You don't have to. 8GB is fine, but why not 16 GB for twice the price?

5. Great video card for the price - you can do a comparison on passmark's website. Passmark calls it the best value today. You can get beefier, but the price begins to go up pretty fast.

6. But you want a fatter PSU than that. Aim for 800-1000 watts if you can find one. That way if you upgrade the video card two years down the road, you don't have to also upgrade your PSU. Future proof it a little bit. If you only make one change, make it this one.

7. Optical drive is fine, kind of standard these days, so cool

8. Alas, you're stuck with Windows 8.1 - but at least it's not as horrible to me as Vista was. (Mostly kidding. I use 8.1 on my beast box at home.)
#3 Nov 25 2014 at 2:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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1. Try to bump the CPU to a Core i7 if at all possible. XIV is not nearly as CPU intensive, relatively, as FFXI was back in the day, but the better a processor you have, the more threads your OS will be capable of handling. To put it another way.... I like to have two monitors, XIV in one and a web browser in the other. Extra processing power means your system isn't slow when you do that.


Actually, unless you're running programs that take advantage of hyperthreading, the i7 is just an equivalent i5. XIV does NOT utilize hyperthreading and will see no performance improvement from an i7 processor over an i5.

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4. I would personally double the RAM in this, but I'm a dork. You don't have to. 8GB is fine, but why not 16 GB for twice the price?


That's good future proofing. The clock speed on the listed RAM is pretty decent, but yeah.. if we're spending money, spend an extra 60 and get twice as much RAM.

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6. But you want a fatter PSU than that. Aim for 800-1000 watts if you can find one. That way if you upgrade the video card two years down the road, you don't have to also upgrade your PSU. Future proof it a little bit. If you only make one change, make it this one.


I'd also add that power supplies degrade over time. If this PSU is the minimum power required to run all that, then after 2 or 3 years it will no longer do that. Hedge your PSU a little. 1000W is probably unnecessary, but 800 or 900 wouldn't hurt.

EDIT: One more thing!

I don't see a hard drive listed up there.

You'll want one.

Actually you want two... one fat platter drive (1TB minimum) for data storage, and a nice zippy solid state drive for your OS to sit on (I'd say 128GB minimum).


Edited, Nov 25th 2014 2:37pm by Callinon
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#4 Nov 25 2014 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
To be honest I didn't see what was a sufficient PSU for this set up so I bumped it up to 1000 although I think for this setup it may be overkill. I added more memory b/c yeah it is cheap right this moment. I have storage drives so it was the only thing I didn't need to purchase. I'm fine with the i5 right now. I'm not big on multiple games. Since 2003 I've only played FFXI, Diablo, Diablo II and now FFXIV and a bunch of less graphical games.

Edited, Nov 25th 2014 3:54pm by Mystical818
#5 Nov 25 2014 at 3:12 PM Rating: Good
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EDIT: One more thing!

I don't see a hard drive listed up there.

You'll want one.

Actually you want two... one fat platter drive (1TB minimum) for data storage, and a nice zippy solid state drive for your OS to sit on (I'd say 128GB minimum).




Whew thought I was crazy, thinking it will be tough running Windows let alone FFXIV on the specs above.

I really want to add an SSD for mine but it is not in the cards for now :(
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#6 Nov 25 2014 at 5:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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I really want to add an SSD for mine but it is not in the cards for now :(


This is the time of year for it if you can swing it. Black Friday deals are usually fantastic for computer parts (Cyber Monday deals aren't bad).

An SSD is, usually, the biggest performance upgrade you can have replacing a single part.
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