Xbox One Used Game Fee (was forum=152)Follow

They confirmed a 24 hour "check in". It's more like a twenty-four hour rental of your Xbox Live catalog on your primary device. One hour on any other device you log into. Obviously some people are up in arms about it.

I really don't mind. My Playstation, Xbox, and Computer are connected 24/7 as is. The only time my internet goes down is when my power goes out.

Sure, others aren't that fortunate... but sorry, that's not me.

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 7:31pm by TirithRR

I don't see them backpedaling here? 24 hours was the initial number quoted by their VP, which Microsoft THEN said was not the case. So this is actually a backpedal on their backpedal. Idiots.

Console limits is a *****. Not an issue for me, because I'm an introverted @#%^, but considering the "log in from your account!" thing was their way of allaying anger over no borrowing, it's not a welcome bit of news.

I don't really see anything different about the third point? I was assuming it would be a rate set by the publisher in the first place.

The only thing I see different is with Kinect, and that's just more information about privacy settings. I LOVE the fact that they're branding this as giving you "complete control" when the option to disable the stupid thing doesn't exist. My definition of complete must be different from theirs. And it seems REALLY clear that you can't disable every feature, if they're still going to require the Kinect be plugged in. Because, you know, what's the f*cking point?

Am I missing something? Because this all exactly matches what I remember from the reveal. The only thing I bothered fact-checking was the VP comment, though.

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Kotaku and I seem to be on the same page where the new console is concerned.

I worry I've been reading it too much...

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 10:12pm by idiggory

One interesting thing in there:



That actually sounds pretty awesome. Imagine if you could link Steam accounts as family members and have a shared library that they could play any time they wanted to?

Edited, Jun 6th 2013 11:45pm by TirithRR

You mean I can give my Steam login credentials to someone else who can log in to my account and use my games? Because I haven't seen a "Share" button anywhere in the client that let's me share my library with another Steam user.



Doesn't look like "only one person can be online at the same time". Depending on how you interpret that line, at the very least it's saying that you can use your library and at least one other family member can.

Edited, Jun 7th 2013 7:16am by TirithRR

Put it this way I borrowed my friend my Steam account before to play Cod MW3 (I didnt play all those hours) I just logged into offline mode and all my games work just fine, and hes able to play online. Its technically sharing the account. As for Sharing with family, Like i said Its more than likely like PSN, you can access the game as long as the original account is on your machine. Cause if its working like you think it will its like MS giving out free copies of a game. Theres almost no way to stop 10 random people from saying they are a family so when one buys they all get it . Thats why the PSN rolled back to 2 copies instead of 5, for PSN bought games

The PSN thing works as in they log into my account ONE time and download all my games, as long as my account is stored on that system somewhere those games will always work on that PS3. I logged into my account at my friends house and they now have access to my games until I restrict them. It sounds exactly the same. THey can now be on their account with access to my accounts games, they dont have to be on my account all the time.

It says right there limit 10.


Edited, Jun 7th 2013 2:55pm by BeanX

Ok Now i see what your getting at. Sorry, Hey if it works like that awesome. Sony only put the 5 limit (now 2) for the same reason it seemed. But Xbone seems very anti used anti piracy, its probably going to opt in like the resale thing. Sony has a hard time getting companies to offer crossbuy on PS3/Vita. They all want to sell each game separately so If you want it on PS3 that 60 bucks and Vita thats 50. They dont want to give out stuff for free.

Honestly well have to see.

Edit: you think people like activision want to give each family member a COD game for free if one person in the family buys it and they can all play online together? If it DOES work like that Im so signing up with random people or My friends family to get tons of free stuff.

Edited, Jun 7th 2013 3:02pm by BeanX

Microsoft hates their customers...

Long story short:
MS Points are going away, in favor of real money wallet balances. MS Points on your account will be transitioned to a local currency value.

Key point:


I really don't know what to say...

I've read up on the thing a bit. And I've come to the conclusion that this system is in place the way it is because Microsoft is full of a bunch of lazy ********.

Promotional MS Points (Those earned for through special purchases, Rewards program, etc) expire after 1 year. Also turns out that balance corrections done directly by MS (for things like unauthorized use) expire after one year. Basically any points that are added directly by Microsoft rather than through the store or retail card purchases are set to expire after one year.

Best I can think of is since Microsoft is doing the balance corrections, all the points/value is flagged as this 'promotional' deal and set to expire in one year. So points that previously were not eligible for expiration are going to be after this transition. And how much they care about their customers is apparently too little for them to spend enough time to handle this in a way that doesn't basically steal money from their customers.

From a corporate, non-gamer standpoint, it makes perfect sense. Give them access to the old stuff, but make sure it expires early enough it helps pressure them into become early adopters.

Which I feel is pretty much the issue with Microsoft in general. At the end of the day, they just aren't a gaming company. Not yet, at least. Their executives aren't used to dealing with gamers and that demographic. Which is a serious issue this far along in the game, and they're certainly seeing the backlash.

Sony's been in the console business, as a major player, for a long time now. And while they have PLENTY of other divisions, most generally deal with entertainment. The end result is that their executives are used to considering the PS line, and the gaming culture that its target demographic is. It took so little effort for them to capitalize on Microsoft's failures because the people capable of doing so knew how to interact with the gaming community.

I feel like Microsoft has seriously failed to educate the people making the final decisions about what the gaming community is going to expect. They need executives who aren't going to approach the Xbox the same way they approach the Surface, or Windows 8, or IE.

Hell, just including the "It has IE!" line in their product announcement was something you would obviously not point out to that audience...

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I have to say, though. If KH3/FFXV aren't going to be exclusives, would it kill them to port them to the PC?

Hell, MAKE me use a controller. I don't care.

Edited, Jun 12th 2013 2:42pm by idiggory

I'm personally a Chrome fan.

And you know what? I have no problems admitting that IE is way better now than it was 5 years ago. That doesn't actually make it desirable though. More like "less horrible."

I also completely understand the desire to market it. But do that by putting it on the XBone and making sure it's super useful/fast/easy. No one is going to buy the XBone because it has IE on it. That's not even going to be a factor. But people MIGHT switch to IE if you create quality cross-system support there.

It's the same reason I'd continue to use Chrome even if a new Firefox update introduced something I perceived as better - I don't want to give up the cross-platform support Chrome gives me with my Android.