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WTF is that? A horse-stork?

Hippogriff means "horse-bird" with the griff part coming from gryphus, Latin for a bird of prey.

While I assume they really refer to raptors, I suppose storks are predatory in that they feed on fish, frogs, snakes, etc.

Seige Dragon would really ruin your wall deck.

Awww that's crummy. I enjoy playing enchantments, they def are not overpowered. That's just bogus. Why kick a strategy when it isn't even a strong one?

Now the next set just needs a card to give all enchantments indestructible. It's the circle of life!

Pretty broken if you don't know what you're facing and/or have no way to fight it.

Platinum Angel is a fun card like that as well because it days you can't lose the game and opponents can't win the game. It only gives your opponent a hand full of turns to find a way to deal with a 4/4 flying artifact creature.

The person without a platinum angel would lose, if both have a platinum angel and neither has a way to kill it the game is a draw.

Edit: not the only way to draw actually, if the game gets in an infinite loop it is also a draw. Say for example you have 3 oblivion rings and only lands in play, since the O rings must have a target they will form a neat little circle with #1 being targeted by #2 and #2 by #3 which returns #1 to play with only #3 as a legal target so it enchants that which returns #2 to play etc.

Since neither player can stop this the game cannot end and it is a draw.

And the most famous is Worldgorger Dragon + Animate Dead, when AD is cast targeting the dragon the dragon comes into play and removes all other permanents from the game, this includes AD and because that is gone the dragon dies and all permanents come back into play so the AD targets the dragon again etc.
Since your lands come into play untapped you can use this to gain infinite mana and then target a creature like Oona, Queen Of The Fae in your graveyard, however if the dragon is the only creature in the graveyard the combo cannot be stopped and the game is a draw.

Edit edit: the above combo is also why Worldgorger Dragon is banned in Legacy, it's a reasonably strong combo and it can cause a lot of unfair play when people piloting the deck win the first game as they can easily make the game a draw on turn 2 leading them to win matches by winning one game and intentionally drawing the other two.

Edited, Jul 5th 2014 12:06pm by Aethien

In high school, when I played, our group said that if you wanted to use an infinite combo, you had to preform the actions until your opponent understood the combo enough and was satisfied that it was truly infinite, and then select a number. This meant that usually anyone who really wanted to use it was forced to do each step a few dozen times before the other guy agreed and allowed him to choose some finite number to use. There were very few instances of actual infinite combos used. I think the last one I remember involved some sort of upkeep mana pool exploit. Later I think I remember them saying that all pooled mana had to be used before the upkeep ended or else you'd take mana burn. Maybe it was always supposed to be like that, just ignored.

Oh, they got rid of mana burn? I didn't mind mana burn, thought it was a good idea.

I meant that between the upkeep and main phase, our group used to carry over mana. But then shortly after this one infinite combo that was preformed during the upkeep, it was changed that mana had to be at zero when leaving the upkeep phase or you took mana burn and the pool was reduced to zero. I am not sure if this was an actual rule change, or just a reinterpreting of the rules from our group. I never followed official rules that much, we were a very casual group. We had a couple older kids that were into the official thing, but we rarely played with them.

*Shrug*

That's why there is a banlist and the aforementioned Dragon is on it.

Played the midnight 2015 pre-release last night. Was more crowded than I expected judging from the usual FNM size and by the time we got there, all the green and black sets were claimed -- black especially being the promo card to get. I went White 'cause why not and my son went for Blue. Did alright for the night, finishing off at 5-2 using a white/red deck. Mainly white creatures and red damage support. Burning Anger was a waste of a slot, Sungrace Pegasus and Geist of the Moors did okay for themselves, Resolute Angel only came into my hand once and I was a mana short of casting her (this was one of the two games I lost, too!). Lightning Strike and Heat Ray were nice to use for some good ole fashioned creature killin'. Mass Calcify could have been useful given everyone playing black+green/blue except the one time it came up for me, I had already as good as won the round. I was actually surprised to see how long a lot of people were taking. My games were over very quickly but a lot of tie games due to time running out.

Game One - Vs. Black/Blue Deck
(1) Win quickly. He got mana screwed with pretty much nothing but lands the whole game.
(2) Lose quickly. I only drew mountains for lands and couldn't get any creatures out.
(3) Lose. Finally a real game though. He gets out a deathtouch rat and a Carrion Crow, I kill both with a Selfless Cathar and Inferno fist. I get out the Geist, he Encrusts it. Back and forth until he got his Indulgent Tormentor out, I hold for a little while but die before I got enough land for my Resolute Angel. C'est la vie.

Game Two - Vs. Black/Green
Win quickly both games. I think he was loaded with heavier creatures and just couldn't get stuff out in time. The few things he did get out got red-nuked or Oppressive Rays (that card's a ***** for this format).

Game Three - Vs. Blue/Black
Win quickly both games. Got lucky to have Raise the Alarm come up early both games plus Soulmenders, Swiftclaws and Cathar. Convoke for the Golem & Stoke the Flames and he just never had a chance to get any footing.

No Planeswalker pulls for me but I did pull the Chain Veil thingie in case I just wanted to kill myself

Edited, Jul 12th 2014 11:28pm by Jophiel