The Rhakghoul event...I'm indifferent towards it but.Follow

You kinda can with the vaccine. Gives you a 6 hour immunity to the plague, and is purchaseable from any stims vendor. Not sure if it lasts through death in pvp though.

They do not persist through death. I tried that already.

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I have a method of actually buying PvP items and handing in quests at the fleet now. I have to hide on my ship but when I am on the fleet I jump off the edge to clear the status. Then run like a coward to my ship and hope I don't get infected on the way(Hard since it spawns you right next to the crowd that is trying to get infected) Then accept a queue. But still, I shouldn't HAVE to do this.

Edited, Apr 17th 2012 7:31pm by snieh

I've noticed announcements and newsbots on the fleet but I have no idea what this post is about.

If they are pulling a stunt like the WoW ghoul invasions prior to WotLK then that would seem incredibly stupid at a time when they are giving out free play to get people back into the game.

I had a nostalgia trip when I was running around on the Fleet last night. Some guy who didn't look too well (glowing eyes and fumes surrounding him) was standing near the PvP daily terminal and slowly infecting anyone who came near him.

Reminded me of back when people spread a certain plague through Ironforge by dismissing and summoning pets.

Good times. Ran Black Talon and the other guy died from the plague just as we engaged the final boss. Luckily, Marauders are OP in 1.2, so I soloed it.

Edited, Apr 18th 2012 2:54pm by Mazra

Because it's part of a short term event that has some nice rewards. And because you can easily avoid getting infected by using a stim.

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And it's not like its a huge mystery when you'll explode. Each stage has visual cues. The plague lasts for 20 minutes, and the vaccines are easy to get.

Edited, Apr 18th 2012 10:23am by idiggory

The whole point is that it's a pandemic. If they made it something you had to opt into, it would defeat the purpose of the entire event.

And you have over 20 minutes from infection until explosion. That's a huge amount of time to treat it, if you want to.

And the vaccine lasts for six hours.

Why are you automatically assuming it's "messing" with other people. The passing of the disease is supposed to be part of the fun--you're creating the pandemic part of the event (the only in-game source of the disease is Tattooine). And you need to be infected to take part in the dailies, so it's not like they are stopping you from doing anything. Plus, every daily quest awards vaccines, for if you don't want to get infected again that day.

And most players enjoy events a lot. I have absolutely no clue why you think players didn't like them in WoW. And besides the complaints about the PVP ramifications, I haven't seen anyone complain about it. On the contrary, every time the loudspeaker came on in the fleet, people who hadn't heard it yet would start commenting on how much they loved the touch.

Maybe its the word "vaccine" that was misleading. A vaccine is a preventative, not a cure. If all you have to do is go buy a vaccine after you're infected then I agree its no big deal.

The description at the start of the thread just described a sequence ending in death. It was reminiscent of the WoW ghoul invasions and they were NOT popular with players.

As for the rest, yeah, I'm weird and antisocial

I do just log in and play the game. I do questing, Flashpoints, PvP. I use a vaccine before running Flashpoints, because that's the only time an untimely death really bothers me. PvP and questing, who cares if I have a silly accidental death? I guess I can just never come around to your side of things because I've never been bothered by that kind of sh*t.

Essentially, the plague is a debuff you get by either going to Tatooine or getting hit by an exploding player. It has a firm 20 minute duration (though there are some glitches that extend this). The explosion kills the diseased player, but the death has no negative ramifications. No damage to gear, you can revive with a medical droid, and the timer on said droid shouldn't be influenced by your normal death timer. So you'll have to wait for a few seconds to rez, but that's the extent of it.

The plague also comes with extremely obvious advancing visual cues. By the time you are nearing explosion, your whole body is showing a clear effect, and the debuff changes as it advances (iirc). So it is very, very easy to keep track of. When you explode, other players around you will be temporarily rooted and infected with the plague.



I'm sorry, but I can't take your complaints seriously at all.

You log on and enter a Warzone. Maybe you get the plague, maybe you don't. Keep playing until you do, because this clearly isn't a problem.

Eventually, a player in a Warzone explodes and hits you. If you're going to complain about such a minor strategic change, that's absurd. Because the disease timer is exactly 20 minutes. If you are infected and keeping track, you can use your explosion to bring about a nice tactical advantage for your group. If you are ignoring it completely, then you might explode at an inopportune moment. Either way, you know it's 20 minutes, so just aim to use a vaccine at 17-18 if you don't want to utilize it.

The visual effect is also a cue as to what level your enemies are at. You can potentially use a vaccine to thwart an enemy attempt to infect you by watching out for this.

So now you're infected from someone in the Warzone, and probably have <5 minutes left on the detonation timer. You run to the fleet, and nail 10 people. Completing that daily gives you 5 free vaccines.

Now go about your business. Every time you exit a Warzone with the plague, use a vaccine. Every time you don't, don't. That's 2 hours worth of gaming time covered.

Sorry, I don't think your rant is at all justifiable, because BioWare went pretty far out of their way to let people opt out. Death from the plague doesn't even come with any negative ramifications--the medical droid timer won't even increase because of it.

So the tactical canvas of PVP has been slightly altered for a few days. So what? At worst, this is just an aspect of randomness, which actually makes the combat more strategic and tests your team's ability to react and plan ahead. That doesn't sound bad to me.

Yeah, the vaccine doesn't persist through death. And know what? That was probably intentional. Because the plague DOES have tactical ramifications, the ability to permanently avoid it in a Warzone eliminates the tactical advantage for people who are getting into the event. Even worse, it turns the event into a universal disadvantage for people who DO want to take part.

You are just more intent on ranting than bothering to figure out how you can use the plague to your advantage. And to do this with regards to PVP content is just insane. Malleability is the most important quality in a PVP player. You're angry because this plague knocks you out of stealth without even bothering to think about how you could use stealth and the plague in conjunction to your advantage.

For people who are curious, the plague has two "phases".

The first lasts 10 minutes, with no visual cue.

The second lasts 10 minutes, and your eyes/body glow.

During that phase, you will vomit twice. The second vomiting incident is a sign that you will be exploding shortly, and your body will glow much more intensely.

Switching areas will reset the current phase, according to dev posts. So zoning into a Warzone will give you 10-20 minutes, if you have the plague. This ALSO means that everyone with the plague should be exploding at the same time (in theory). So if you watch the clock, you can very easily tell around when everyone will be detonating. So use a vaccine there if you are so opposed to getting infected.

No, I think it's ridiculous to claim that you can't just log in and play because of an event that is, at the very worst, a minor inconvenience. It only lasts a few days and was meant to give players a fun new way to get some unique vanity items.

My problem is that you are blaming them for things they legitimately took time to figure out how to mitigate (by making sure players could earn an ample supply of vaccines just by playing, or buy more if they wanted to. If you're just injecting yourself with every death in a Warzone, it's because you didn't bother to find out how to use the stims strategically. Not BioWare's fault.

And how is your class unfairly targeted? No, seriously? The effects that break you out of stealth are essentially stuns that affect every other class. It's no different than if someone shot a targeted AoE in your area. And it's extremely easy to see which players are close to exploding. As a stealth class, you are uniquely suited to avoiding them if you wish. They're probably going to chase after your team--just get outside their 10m radius.

The plague DOES have a timer. It's a 20 minute plague with two 10 minute phases. It did have visual cues for when you'd be getting closer to detonation (vomiting) that BioWare removed because of player complaints in PVP.

And just by glancing at your team mates/enemies, you will know if they'll explode in <10 min or >10. And they'll glow intensely green before they explode, so you know what's coming. Force Speed and Stealth give you a much higher chance of escaping the blast than any other class. That sounds like an unfair advantage in your favor to me.

When did I claim I don't just log in and play? When did I say it wasn't fun? When did I say I wasn't interested? Oh right, I DIDN'T.



Earn an ample supply of vaccines? I have 15,000 credits to my name. A vaccine is 2000 credits each. The credits I win upon warzone completion are approximately 1200. So if I were to use one before every warzone I would LOSE money.



Want to know how it effects stealthers and nobody else? The 5 second stun DOESN"T HAPPEN IN PVP! it's omitted from the actual play itself to prevent players from being stunned for 5 second in the middle of team play. It does however still trigger just doesn't stun. So it knocks stealthers out of stealth and has zero repercussions for other non stealth classes.



Yup, thanks for summing up the answer to your previous question as to why it's a disadvantage for stealthers.



What does this have to do with anything? I'm supposed to be able to keep track of the 200+ people at the fleet and hope I manage to avoid every one that's going to blow up and infect me?

Let me sum it up for you. I can't afford to keep myself immune since every death removes the vaccine. Since it's PvP I die a LOT. Meaning I would have to buy one every warzone or multiple and lose what little money I simply don't have. I'm basically going right out of my way to avoid this detrimental effect. I have not said a single thing against Bioware or the event. I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO AVOID IT! It's not much to ask. Either way, I'm done with you. Feel free to blindly defend again. Zealot.

I like the fact that the plague event is technically over, but if you had the plague when it ended and were logged out, you still have it upon logging back in.

I want to pass around this plague forever. I want it to never end.