Alright guys, due to popular request, and a decent number of inquries popping up over the past few weeks, I've decided to put the haubergeon mystery to the test.
I ran tests in attempts to determine whether haubergeons could break into tier 31.
First as smithers, we know this piece caps at 69 for smithing. Optimal craft lvls would indicate that you would want to reach 100, using any combo to break tier 31. (94+3+3support in my case, specifically used to test this piece)
This leaves a remaining cloth level of 66, allowed to max out on. Add a guild piece (glasses), and now my cloth is 67.
67 cloth lvl - 31 lvls over cap, and my hopes that the haubergeon subcloth is lvl 36 or less.
The method was time consuming, took approx 1 week, but overall simple.
I mule crafted smithing up to 55. Able to craft 15 lvls up and above my current lvl, I could successfully attempt to synth a lvl 70 piece. This was verified on a lvl 70 piece, and of course it broke.
Now, I ran to windy and mule crafted cloth to 15 to start my tests. 15+15 lvls out of cap +3 advanced support = cloth 33 to start. Result = No synth
Bumped cloth lvl by 1 to 16, Result = No synth (34 cloth)
Bumped cloth lvl by 1 to 17, Result = No synth (35 cloth)
Bumped cloth lvl by 1 to 18, Result = No synth (36 cloth)
I put up my own damascus for this test, because I wanted answers.
Once my cloth lvl, support, and 15 lvls out maxed at 36 with no synth, I stopped my testing. The reason being is because that's the absolute optimal lvl, you can hope to break 31 over cap, for both crafts.
The final verdict is that Haubergeons CAN NOT ever break 31 tier for both crafts. I'm unhappy with the finds, but the numbers do not lie.
There was no need to actually test for the exact cloth lvl due to the fact that we know we can break tier 11, it's irrelevent to know at what point. Although now we know this, 11 lvls over the cap yield the same HQ probability as 30 over cap.
On a further note, tests yet unconfirmed on the specific subcraft lvl, with current cloth level at 62+1, the silk cloth incgedient used in the synth to cap at 53, I can say my 10% HQ rate indicates that the true haubergeon subcloth lvl is NOT 53, but does overall cap lower.
Good luck all you aspiring smithers.
Edited, Fri Sep 30 11:57:09 2005 by mikesjusticee