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#27 Feb 20 2006 at 2:43 AM Rating: Good
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"CrimzonCaitsith" wrote:
dont suppose anyone has a link to where the SH leather sub was confirmed to be 33?


No one is willing to lose a claw over this, but I think there was a post way back when, if I can find it I'll edit it in, stating that someone did in fact lose a claw testing it. I don't think I'd be able to HQ as many SH's as I did if the sub were higher than 33. My record is like 8 HQ, 15NQ, and 4 crit. fails. I haven't started to synth these as much until this last week.. and I've managed to HQ one a day for the passed 4 days (also lost a claw each day >< putting me at break-even). I dunno, from my experience it's highly doubtful the cap for leather is higher than 33, but unless someone proves me otherwise with pure facts, I'm gonna believe it is 33. The only way to prove that is to test it yourself though, lol.
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#28 Feb 20 2006 at 4:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Necropost I know, but I think it might be advisable to give it just one more shot, aka cloth 19. Reason being that if you take cloth to 66, you might as well take it to 68 and get +2 in cloth guild items, then delevel back to 66+2. Who know, maybe it's the level that breaks the HQ tier. XD
#29 Feb 20 2006 at 4:22 AM Rating: Good
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only problem with your idea, Merpes, is that you can only wear one apron XD
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#30 Feb 20 2006 at 7:38 AM Rating: Decent
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No one is willing to lose a claw over this, but I think there was a post way back when, if I can find it I'll edit it in, stating that someone did in fact lose a claw testing it. I don't think I'd be able to HQ as many SH's as I did if the sub were higher than 33. My record is like 8 HQ, 15NQ, and 4 crit. fails. I haven't started to synth these as much until this last week.. and I've managed to HQ one a day for the passed 4 days (also lost a claw each day >< putting me at break-even). I dunno, from my experience it's highly doubtful the cap for leather is higher than 33, but unless someone proves me otherwise with pure facts, I'm gonna believe it is 33. The only way to prove that is to test it yourself though, lol.


No, theres no doubt those numbers put you on the 31 tier, unless your the luckiest person Vanadiel has ever seen if its tier 11. Perhaps then I will take Bone 98 -> 100, only reason I was hesitating was because of this synth.
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#31 Feb 20 2006 at 7:43 AM Rating: Good
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This may be a crazy thought, butaru what the heck...

Has anyone actually put -two- mastercrafter furnishings in at the same time to see if the effects of both count?

ie: Level craft A high enough, get Furnishing, then level craft B to Furnishing (deleveling A), then attempt synth with both to check levels?

Sure, it shouldn't work, because each furnishing has it's own strengths and elements, etc...but we all know JP crafters that put up way more than a Tier-11 cap should logically produce, and if the item effect counted anyway, that might explain it.

Baring an -actual- test with -two- (or heck, more) items in play at once, best I can think of is take a mastercrafter item, place it, then put something else in play to overwrite it, and see if the bonus still plays.

Yeah, crazy I know, and **** hard to test...but it might just work (afterall, logic seldom flies with SE's coding).


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#32 Feb 20 2006 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Gar, I knew I was forgetting something.
#33 Feb 20 2006 at 8:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Has anyone actually put -two- mastercrafter furnishings in at the same time to see if the effects of both count?



rare/ex, you cant have two
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#34 Feb 20 2006 at 9:28 PM Rating: Decent
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you didn't read the rest of his post lol, he meant for 2 different guilds. (I.E. getting woodworking to 88 for furniture.. then deciding you wanna do CC instead and get cloth to 88 and having both guild's furnishings inside MH at the same time). This can easily be tested with low energy items with the same element. I haven't paid much attention to it, but does having a taru stool (2 lightning energy that gives 'Moghancement: Desynth') and also a flower stand (2 lightning energy that gives 'Moghancement: Lightning") give both key items?
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#35 Feb 20 2006 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
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He said 2 different ones, IE leveling a craft to 88, getting the furniture with GP, and then deleveling it and leveling something else and getting 2 different furniture items.
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#36 Feb 25 2006 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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for the longest time i was at 100 smithing and cloth 38... just letting you all know, i recieved 0 cloth skills up's on any Hauby synths i did...

and i'm not talking 1-3 synths more along the lines of 60..

not once ever seeing a CC skill up

so this brings up to a very disturbing conclusion, is the CC cap 37 or 38

if it is 37.. i think were screwed
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#37 Feb 25 2006 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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if it is 37.. i think were screwed


Correction: If it is 37 some of us who aren't 94+ smithing are blessed with being able to break tier2 without having to delevel :). You can't always trust people on the forums, for instance, the post about a boneworker being able to break tier2 off SH only if he/she didn't exceed 98 bone. From my experience, there's no way I should be hq'ing more SH than Hauby if that were a fact since my Boneworking is 100+3 and Leatherworking is 61+3 (synth support), yet, my smithing on another character is 88+3 with Clothcraft 62+1 so far. The point is, you can't always trust everything you read on these forums, and if you really wanna be sure about something, you have to go out and run your own tests. I know for one that I'll be testing the leather sub for SH on a mule once I reactivate my account.
I'm pretty sure Mikesjusticee wouldn't go through all that trouble just to keep the Hauby market to himself tho, right? Only way is to put up your own Ingot and test it for yourself hehe, but I think that Salto just had bad luck in getting a skill up out of the 60 hauby synths.

EDIT: here you go crimzon, http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=24;mid=1129378547246641790;num=23;page=1

too many 100+3 boneworkers feel that having leather 61+ support is producing too many HQ's, we must go complain to SE... :P

Edited, Sat Feb 25 13:23:06 2006 by starcraftghost
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#38 Oct 20 2016 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
>.>

Edited, Oct 23rd 2016 2:11am by mikesjusticeee
Necro Warning: This post occurred more than thirty days after the prior, and may be a necropost.
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