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#1402 Jun 27 2011 at 7:40 AM Rating: Good
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Welp, started up again on the first of the month. In that time I've gotten thf back up to level cap, dnc and nin to 50 as subs. Got myself +1 head and +2 boots. Have the +2 items for body, legs, and hands.. but need the seals. Did most of the dagger trials.. hopefully gonna start farming glavoid soon. Still missing one zone boss clear and a couple of items from every zone.

All in all I'd say it was a productive month.
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#1403 Jun 29 2011 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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I'd like to just have a trial for the TK. At least get it's DMG up there with the other daggers.



This. If nothing else, this. I'd settle for 36 DMG. lol


You know, Deadgye, it might be a bad idea to wish for a TK trial. They could make it kill 1000 tonberries for one more level of TH... Which means you'd be "gimp" without it. :P
#1404 Jun 29 2011 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I just killed bats and worms for 16+ hours of actual playtime to get this. I think I can handle a few thousand tonberries. :3
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#1405 Jun 29 2011 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
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Deadgye wrote:
I just killed bats and worms for 16+ hours of actual playtime to get this. I think I can handle a few thousand tonberries. :3


I probably shouldn't admit this publicly... but I got mine after 4 brown chests while just messing around with the new system when it came out. >.>

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#1406 Jul 02 2011 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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Fusetto +2 TP+100 trials DONE!

Finally have (what i think it) the best dagger to pair with my Twashtar! Now to go use it! (logged off after finishing it last night XD)

I think that from a DD standpoint my thf is (almost) perfect now. Only thing I can think of that I am missing is augments to my heca gear (havent done a single synergy augment on anything yet).

Edit: Oops nvm. I dont have the +4 dex earrings, but those will have to wait anyway. Not wasting my gil on them when they will prob be obsolete in a few months with 95/99 and Im spending every last gil i get on Alex for ryunohige :P Pixie/Delta, keep it strong for me!

Edited, Jul 2nd 2011 10:36am by Banalaty
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#1407 Jul 03 2011 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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+2 hands finally, still need 10 body seals, 7 leg seals, and 3 vision stones for the rest of my af3. Also got serpent rumors, I've started my arduous task of attempting an ebisu without woodworking.
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#1408 Jul 12 2011 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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I'm going to ring in an accomplishment for a change. On Sunday night I finished my level 80 Twashtar, and with only 16 more itza scales it won't be too long before I unlock Rudra's Storm for myself. It's been a year in the making but it's satisfying to finally finish this goal.
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#1409 Jul 12 2011 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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Super congrats! The hardest part is over. The funnest part is about to start in 16 more scales ^_^

There is something very satisfying about completing a long-term major goal like this and thoroughly enjoyed the (sometimes frustrating) process for my Twash and am sure you are doing the same.

On the accomplishement side, I finally did my 1st few synergy augments. I now have heca feet+1 with 3str and 2 polearm skill (superb for my drg, 3 more str not shabby on thf). Also Heca subligar+1 now has Crit Rate+3 and lolResist blind. Wonderful wonderful evis pants ^_^ For only having 6 tatters, I got 2 pretty solid augments. I am quite content with these as a great base to slowly work on the better augments later....squeezed in between my alex purchases ; ;

On the long term goals, though not very thf-y (but im doing everything to get it on thf so that counts right? :P), I have passed the 25% mark (7,500) for alex for my Ryunohige mythic. currently 7,590/30,000. Just about on pace ^_^
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#1410 Jul 13 2011 at 7:43 AM Rating: Good
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Got my thf to level 90 last night. Not much of an accomplishment I know, but I just started up again last week after a 3 year absence so I'm pretty satisfied. Now to start the insanely long laundry list of stuff to get done, the top of which is finishing off subs and capping dagger, marks, and evasion skill. =P
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#1411 Jul 13 2011 at 9:05 AM Rating: Good
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I still haven't bothered to cap marksmenship yet since I hit 90 lol. I'd just use feint before spamming bolts whenever I needed to.

Put together my +2 legs, and only 1 seal away from +2 body now. Ls member was nice enough to give me the neptunal head abjuration from his fafnir when a group of us did ks99/faf/nid. <3 Now I either have to wait 2 months until I have enough gp to get t1 on cursed cap, or I can just spend ~2m and buy a -1.
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#1412 Jul 13 2011 at 3:27 PM Rating: Good
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Deadgye wrote:
I still haven't bothered to cap marksmenship yet since I hit 90 lol. I'd just use feint before spamming bolts whenever I needed to.


lol I think this is the ONLY reason why I'm glad I leveled RNG...and for that matter, why I will continue to level it...


As for dings, I haven't gotten that much lately since I haven't been on a whole lot during weekdays. Finally got myself a pair of ocelot trousers a few weeks ago and finally got my dagger caught up to glavoid trials (which I won't even be able to start for a while). But yeah, other than that, nuffin XD
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#1413 Jul 13 2011 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
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Not sure when it happened exactly, but I noticed I've got a blue number for marksmanship! Hooray!
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#1414 Aug 01 2011 at 7:58 AM Rating: Good
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Last night I finished up my Itzprotyl scales and unlocked Rudra's Storm. I am absolutely extatic about this weaponskill. I also finished the cyclone phase of my tp bonus fusetto and I'll be working on the evisceration phase next. That's so boring I can only take it in small doses though, but I'm very happy with this. I can work on orthrus at my leisure. Since everybody needs amarok and orthrus's +1/+2 items I won't have any issues with the lvl 90 phase of my dagger.
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#1415 Aug 01 2011 at 8:06 AM Rating: Good
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grats^^ orthrus is certainly the most fun part too! xD
#1416 Aug 01 2011 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good
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I'm going to try and finish up my Orthrus's by my birthday which falls at the end of August. Since it's my 30's birthday I took two weeks vacation from work to commemorate the occasion, and my school work won't take me THAT long to complete so I'll have some free time coming up.

On the note of Rudra's; with RR/SS/Apoc a stacked Rudra's will basically one shot any non NMs inside abyssite.... absolutely ANYTHING. I only got to do it once, but a full 300% TP SATA assassin's charge + hide rudra's with stalwart's and curry broke 10.5 K on a NM. I only wish I had been able to close darkness with it. Outside abyssye stacked weaponskills are still incredible. I love this dagger.

Edited, Aug 1st 2011 11:17am by Melphina
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#1417 Aug 01 2011 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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Super big congrats!

Regarding atmas, I have thought about an abyssea specific build to capitalize on the epeen/fun factor of rudras but I dont have the specific gear to pull it off yet.

RR/Omni/SS

The difference obviously being omnipotents +50 dex and 10% gear haste. So the build would focus on dropping 10% haste gear for 8% DW. My ideal would be:

Twash/Fusetto(TPbonus)
RaiderRang (DW+3)
Cuah. Headpiece+1
Brutal
Suppa (DW+5)
Mextli Harness (DW+3)
Raider Hand+2
Raja
Epona
Atheling
Nuska's Sash (DW+5)
Raider leg+2
Homam/Ryuga Sune ate

This would be a 16% haste (+10% gear haste from Omni atma for 26%), while upping DW from 33(/nin+suppa+raiderRang) to 41% DW.

I think that would be some epic fun to have the MOST powerful rudras possible in the game (TP bonus offhand with RR/SS/Omni atmas) while still having rather epic melee damage with 41% DW and capped gear haste, not to mention, the actual melee related stats (non-haste/DW) on Mextli Harness and Cuah.Head arent shabby (you dont loose much compared to raiders in those slots.

Also, Mirke Wardecoders can rep in for mextli, but then you would ahve to use homam hands or replace raider head with zelus tiara.

I dont have either Mextli/Cuah head or nuskus yet so i cant play with it, but I have always wanted to try a DW related build+omni. Before it relied on mirke, but mextli+Cuah set bonus 8% haste really makes this seem much more viable to me as an 'abyssea' build, particularly for rudras people abusing the 50dex on omni.
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Edited, Aug 1st 2011 6:06pm by Banalaty
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#1418 Aug 01 2011 at 10:32 PM Rating: Good
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This would be a 16% haste (+10% gear haste from Omni atma for 26%), while upping DW from 33(/nin+suppa+raiderRang) to 41% DW.


Wrong, Cuath Headpiece +1 is not 8% haste. The SET bonus is 8% haste. Your set only has 8% haste in gear and falls short. This is easily offset by raider's hat coming close of course, but doesn't meet the requirements for capped Haste. Allow me to propose a different set for you instead.

Twashter/Fusetto (TP bonus) --- Qirmiz Tathlum
Raiders +2
Love Torque
Brutal
Suppa
Loki's Kaftan (store tp + 7 as well as crit bonus)
Raider's hand +2
Epona's
Rajas
Aetheling
Goading Belt (Store tp +5, haste + 5%)
Skadi's Chausses (store tp + 7, haste + 2%, accuracy +4, attack +5) I know you have these Banalaty
Homam or Ryuga Sune-ate (Haste + 3%)

Total equipment haste == 16%, total store tp greater than your set == 19%, crit damage +5% from lokis, other marginal stats apply

White tathlum exist for the ammo but its really expensive and we're playing with rudra's sets so I chose QQ tathlum for fun (I still like my acid bolts tbh). I would bank on stp + 19 working out better than 8% DW because you aren't using apoc and already have a base 225% TP mod at 100% (I know you're using the WOTG earring in your rudra's storm build as well). This set may sacrifice a little bit of dual wield speed, but increasing dual wield also lowers tp gained per hit, whereas in my version you increase it instead. Since we're talking about a TP build designed to throw out monstrous Rudra's as often as possible at the sacrifice of some DoT I like my design better than yours.

You can also take my original atma setup and swap out atma of the apoc for atma of the alpha/omega of course. It isn't as much direct damage to rudra's as omnipotent, but RR/SS/alpha/omega is stronger than apoc both in DoT as well as weaponskill damage.

Edited, Aug 2nd 2011 2:33am by Melphina
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#1419 Aug 02 2011 at 9:04 AM Rating: Good
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I actually bought a white tathlum from way back at 75 for my drg STP builds and still use it there. Unfortunately my WOTG missions are woefully behind so i dont have the earring yet ; ; It will also likely have to compete with my drg for augments. Once i finish mythic getting a 5hit with 492 del lance is only with rather large sacrifices in gear on both TP/WS so its either 25TP bonus for twash vs a much more forgiving 5hit for Mythic lance with regain+1. Im hoping at 95+ drg gets a nice new STP piece or 2 that will make a 5hit less painful and i can go for 25TP bonus.

My buddy just got the 1st Fazheluo R. Mail (mextli equivalent for 'heavy' armor) in my LS the other day and said the Rare/EX '+2' versions of the voidwatch body armors work with the set bonus of either the NQ or the +1 head pieces. Those things are so stinking rare, i cant find any info so i just took his word for it. If he is right, the Mextli harness+Cuah. Head or Cuah+1 would give the 8% haste set bonus. If hes wrong, well yeah the whole build will fall apart. I havent found anything to support or refute him yet, so heres to hoping.

"IF" the set bonus works, it would basically be 13.5% more atk speed (33>41% DW. Assuming RaiderRang, but thats a separate issue.) vs 16 stp, 5% Crit damage and other marginal stats.

Im curious if we would get any favorable or unfavorable STP rounding with more DW so lets see.

Twas/Fusetto=176/186
33% DW=4.5tp/hit. 1hit=2.02sec. TP/Sec=2.23
41% DW=4.3tp/hit. 1hit=1.78sec. TP/Sec=2.42

So the extra 8% DW with these daggers would up DOT by 13.6% and TP up by 8.5% over time.

Id think that should hold up pretty well vs the 16stp and 5% crit damaage. Not to mention the greater acc/atk lended by mextli+Cuah and crit rate on raider pants over loki/raider hat. Id only really miss the 3% triple on raider hat.

For rudras builds i generally lean toward raw DPS over STP since theres a lotta sitting around on timers, my TP is rarely the issue holding me back. I lean with more melee damage than TP speed if i have to choose these days as I over TP often saving for rudras than I did spamming evis.

Of course this is all with the shady assumption that the set bonus actually works with Mextli harness. If it doesnt, the whole cookie crumbles and I would have to look at something similar to what you describe and compare it to Nuska/Mirke/zelus/Raider Hands or Nuska/Mirke/Raider hat/Ballerines or one of quite a few other 15-16 haste options.

Quite a lot of flexibility. But I mostly hope the set bonus info gets confirmed or not so I can figure it out one way or the other.

Although if i am trying to win a parse, I would probably just scrap omnipotent all together for the standard atmas, but DD is such a non-issue at this point in abyssea, this is more of just a 'fun' build for abyssea to maximize rudras for screenies and oooh/aahh effect on passerbys while actually keep total damage in the same ballpark as the cookie cutters. It will more than suffice for most activities in there :P

Ill see if i can talk my buddy into just buyin a NQ helm, removing all DA/Zanshin gear/subs and go swing as stuff for a while and see if he ever DA.(the set bonus is 5% DA for him). We can figure out if it works or not pretty fast.
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#1420 Aug 02 2011 at 12:07 PM Rating: Good
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I think omni combo holds up really well if we focus on RS over evis. I had this written down somewhere here, but i can't find it. I remember the difference between an omni combo and the RR/AO/apoc (usual dps winner before may update) was pretty much a single unit on Kinematics spreadsheet. A single unit when our dps is at 350 is really nothing. Fun wins in my book^^
#1421 Aug 05 2011 at 12:38 AM Rating: Good
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So I finally got my epona's ring last night and I'm VERY happy with my TP set now. I'm pretty sure it's near-perfect barring a twashtar, and if it's not, it's pretty much what i've been working towards for a while.

Kila+2(str)/Triplus / /Qirmiz
AF3+2/Rancor/Supa/Brutal
AF3+2/Af3+2/Eponas'/Demonry
Atheling/Twilight/Af3+2/Homam

It's now what I use when I don't have to TH ***** or tank something and just want to put out as much damage as I can.
#1422 Aug 05 2011 at 6:28 AM Rating: Good
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Urathsa wrote:
So I finally got my epona's ring last night and I'm VERY happy with my TP set now. I'm pretty sure it's near-perfect barring a twashtar, and if it's not, it's pretty much what i've been working towards for a while.

Kila+2(str)/Triplus / /Qirmiz
AF3+2/Rancor/Supa/Brutal
AF3+2/Af3+2/Eponas'/Demonry
Atheling/Twilight/Af3+2/Homam

It's now what I use when I don't have to TH ***** or tank something and just want to put out as much damage as I can.


No raiderrang? D:

Looking good to me other than that, grats man!
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Oh, I have it, I just don't use it all that often. At some point I was convinced that qirmiz did more for me than the 'rang. Even using kinematics spreadsheets to calculate the difference it only comes out to a 2 DPS change in favor of the 'rang, and that's only if I get to melee constantly and am buffed with at least haste. Buffed with marches as well, and the difference is less than 1% and not enough to make me carry around a 'rang when I'm constantly swapping between nin and thf for one reason or another.
#1424 Aug 09 2011 at 8:10 AM Rating: Good
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Atma of ****'s Guardian: O!

LS finally killed PW last week and I got to be in the alli during death (I was TH *****! Go me! :P) The upside to TH whoreing was being in for the last form guaranteed for the atma/******* The downside was that we got NOTHING. Only the 3 TAU HNM crafting materials that are 100% drop. No rare/ex gear at all. So now the LS thinks i fail at thf because my TH sucks and demand we bring a different thf next time ; ;

Cant tell you how many people asked me the last few days "are you SUUURE you had TH gear on?" /facepalm.

But i got mine! SUCKAZ!

So now the question is, what is the best atma setup for aeolian edge now? Hells/Ultima/Gales? Or is it better to drop one MAB for the tp+100 one? (I have a +100tp Fusetto now already)
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#1425 Aug 09 2011 at 9:59 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah i think the gain from 200 to 300tp is smaller than the extra mab (~15% vs ~33%). You can still use martial knife for 300tp tho. I think i saw a test that it does stack with fusetto on ffxiah or something.

Edited, Aug 9th 2011 12:01pm by Laphine
#1426 Aug 10 2011 at 7:37 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks ^_^

Generally ive been using Fusetto+(borrowed)Mkris when i EdgeBurn, though i rarely do it. This has got to be the only WS that has a larger FTP gain from 1-200 than from 2-300. But if I brew on thf, the martial would be worth its weight in gold. But, if im brewing, Im probably going to just use rng from now on with my WOE version of wildfire unless i need to AOE multiple mobs.
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